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Title: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on October 01, 2015, 04:44:22 AM
Discuss here about LGBT2Q+ and the community. Remember to stay civil. The following is a list of terms that are included in the queer spectrum. Everyone will be accepted.

L = Lesbian (females attracted to females only)
G = Gay (males attracted to males only)
B = Bisexual (people attracted to both males and females)
T = Transgender (people who's gender identity is different from their birth sex)
2 = 2-Spirit (a North American First Nations term for people who have 'spirits' of both genders)
Q = Queer (umbrella term for the community and non-conforming people without a specific term)
Q = Questioning (people questioning whether or not they are LGBT2Q+)
I = Intersex (people born or who identity with neither or both genders)
A = Agender (people who identify with an absence of gender)
A = Asexual (people who, to some degree, feel no sexual or romantic attraction)
P = Pansexual (people attracted to anyone, regardless of gender identity)

I identify as asexual! I do not have any wish for sexual relationships, but still could see myself in a platonic one. I do not identify with any labels when it comes to the gender; I believe that I only like the opposite sex this way, but this has changed before.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 13, 2017, 07:33:52 PM
i feel like there's a topic for this already but nonetheless a good topic


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 13, 2017, 07:36:13 PM
i feel like there's a topic for this already but nonetheless a good topic
Yes, I am aware of this. It was like a year ago, and I don't want to bump it.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 13, 2017, 07:36:54 PM
Yes, I am aware of this. It was like a year ago, and I don't want to bump it.

oh k cool


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 13, 2017, 07:47:40 PM
im bisexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 13, 2017, 08:14:14 PM
Ayy I remember when the last topic triggered a bunch of peopel lmao


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 13, 2017, 09:45:23 PM
er if this is gonna be the #lovewins topic all over again I'm just gonna get out of here asap


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 13, 2017, 09:56:46 PM
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16160.0

The hashtag relates to the 2015 Supreme Court ruling which declared it unconstitutional to deny same sex couples the right to marry. Trump wants to overturn this decision and will likely succeed, unfortunately.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 13, 2017, 10:11:46 PM
who tf voted no


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 13, 2017, 10:18:46 PM
I dont understand discrimination
People discriminate because their religious holy book says its okay, no other reason.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 13, 2017, 10:35:46 PM
yes!!!!! ofc why wouldnt i


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Smaartii_Paants on January 13, 2017, 11:53:20 PM
I support 110%


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 14, 2017, 12:42:35 AM
Okay, this is an iffy topic for me.

I don't support it, but I don't discriminate or treat them differently because they're gay. I am not nasty to them because of that. I treat people more on their personality and traits.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 14, 2017, 03:35:45 AM
I support LGBT
But i'm still straight as line


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 14, 2017, 12:33:14 PM
People discriminate because their religious holy book says its okay, no other reason.
umm no offence but what about islamophobic atheists or something

Oh and which holy book was discriminating to blacks


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 14, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
umm no offence but what about islamophobic atheists or something

Oh and which holy book was discriminating to blacks

And Jews, which one discriminated them?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 14, 2017, 01:21:20 PM
People discriminate because their religious holy book says its okay, no other reason.
So what do you do/think to people like this and my religion doesn't support it, but we don't discriminate. You are stereotyping now.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 14, 2017, 05:48:29 PM
So what do you do/think to people like this and my religion doesn't support it, but we don't discriminate. You are stereotyping now.
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/ac1c87068ef94aee468f67dddbf485d7/tumblr_inline_o2z0ltvgLe1u0luh7_500.jpg)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 14, 2017, 10:36:50 PM
I support 110%


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 14, 2017, 11:14:08 PM
And Jews, which one discriminated them?
If we take Quran literally, there are passages that Atheists see discriminatory to Jews and Christians.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 15, 2017, 12:30:08 AM
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/ac1c87068ef94aee468f67dddbf485d7/tumblr_inline_o2z0ltvgLe1u0luh7_500.jpg)
Well....

Discriminating someone because of their religion is just a bad. In fact, both ways it's, about what people believe in.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Lil Nas Flex on January 15, 2017, 06:15:17 AM
People discriminate because their religious holy book says its okay, no other reason.
I support it even if my religion says not too.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 15, 2017, 08:55:23 AM
Then your not true to your religion


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 15, 2017, 03:05:01 PM
Then your not true to your religion
By that logic no Christian is true to their religion. No one supports killing homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), killing people who work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 35:1-3), killing disobedient children (Deuteronomy 21:18-21), killing adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), beating slaves, or even owning slaves (Exodus 21:20-21), deny woman the right to have authority over or to teach a man (1 Timothy 2:12), kill non Christians (Luke 19:27), or even agree with the old testament (Matthew 5:17). This just a few of the most hateful quotes in the Bible, the Bible is filled with many more quotes like these, both in the old and new testaments.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 15, 2017, 03:27:45 PM
By that logic no Christian is true to their religion. No one supports killing homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), killing people who work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 35:1-3), killing disobedient children (Deuteronomy 21:18-21), killing adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), beating slaves, or even owning slaves (Exodus 21:20-21), deny woman the right to have authority over or to teach a man (1 Timothy 2:12), kill non Christians (Luke 19:27), or even agree with the old testament (Matthew 5:17). This just a few of the most hateful quotes in the Bible, the Bible is filled with many more quotes like these, both in the old and new testaments.
also theres some other weird stuff in the bible that you shouldnt do like wearing different fabrics. no one follows that but theyre still considered christians.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 15, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
I support it even if my religion says not too.
Me too
Then your not true to your religion
I think i'll go to hell


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 15, 2017, 04:48:59 PM
I think i'll go to hell
Hell is just a fictional place invented as a way to scare people into believing. You can't actually go there, because it isn't real.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 15, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
Yes, you can. Hell is a small town in southeastern Michigan.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 15, 2017, 04:57:23 PM
Hell is just a fictional place invented as a way to scare people into believing. You can't actually go there, because it isn't real.

Then I'm gonna break the fourth wall yooooo


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 15, 2017, 05:02:37 PM
Yes, you can. Hell is a small town in southeastern Michigan.
Good point, but hell as portrayed in many religions is fictional.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 15, 2017, 05:06:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell%27s_Kitchen,_Manhattan

DUDE GORDON RAMSAY IS SATAN


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 15, 2017, 05:08:20 PM
Welcome <3 Hell

(Reference)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 15, 2017, 05:09:11 PM
I feel like this topic should be locked


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 15, 2017, 05:09:44 PM
I feel like this topic should be locked

And why is that exactly?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 15, 2017, 06:14:09 PM
Because this is just some pointless argument about religion


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 15, 2017, 06:20:38 PM
I was just about to say that actually.

Please discuss LGBTQIAP here and not religion.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 15, 2017, 09:39:14 PM
Because this is just some pointless argument about religion

If that's the case, maybe we should just lock every topic that has controversial opinions in it.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 16, 2017, 12:21:26 AM
This site actually useful for me who want to learn many sexuality like pansexual (i don't understand)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 16, 2017, 12:50:38 AM
By that logic no Christian is true to their religion. No one supports killing homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13)
They get killed at the end of the world, when Armageddon comes. Humans ourselves will not physically kill the homosexuals, but when it comes to the end, they won't make it through. It's just a sin, it will be done at the end.

I won't talk about the rest now as this is the LGBT topic, and this quote was fitting.
“‘If a man lies down with a male the same as one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing.+ They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 16, 2017, 01:23:54 AM
Well, this thread went from 0 to insane fundamentalist real bleeping quick.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 16, 2017, 03:28:32 AM
‘If a man lies down with a male the same as one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing.+ They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them.
loophole don't lie down as you do with a woman


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 16, 2017, 08:33:48 AM
i am very gay and i hope you guys have a very good gay day too


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on January 17, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
i am very gay and i hope you guys have a very good gay day too
same ;p


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 17, 2017, 06:38:03 PM
Hell is just a fictional place invented as a way to scare people into believing. You can't actually go there, because it isn't real.
waitwaitwait so I went to the wrong place then? I could've sworn I saw Hilter when I was vacationing there last summer . . .


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 17, 2017, 07:07:31 PM
waitwaitwait so I went to the wrong place then? I could've sworn I saw Hilter when I was vacationing there last summer . . .

You have to take a ferry for 3 hours west.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 17, 2017, 08:32:19 PM
waitwaitwait so I went to the wrong place then? I could've sworn I saw Hilter when I was vacationing there last summer . . .
Yes, hell is a fictional place. Even if heaven and hell were real, which they aren't, according to John 3:16 from the new testament, all that one has to do to be admitted to heaven is believe in God, specifically the Christian God, and Hitler did believe in God, so he would be in heaven, not hell. This is just further evidence that God dost not exist, or if he does he certainly isn't just as the Bible claims in Deuteronomy 32:4.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 17, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
I thought this topic was about LGBTQ...

I had a friend that was bisexual but I was there for her in the time of need. I haven't talked to her in a while but I'm hoping to pay a visit to her one day.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 18, 2017, 05:48:14 AM
Yes, hell is a fictional place. Even if heaven and hell were real, which they aren't, according to John 3:16 from the new testament, all that one has to do to be admitted to heaven is believe in God, specifically the Christian God, and Hitler did believe in God, so he would be in heaven, not hell. This is just further evidence that God dost not exist, or if he does he certainly isn't just as the Bible claims in Deuteronomy 32:4.
No Joe dude I am telling you, I was there last summer visiting dead relatives.I saw Hitler and that rock pushy guy and took a tour of all the mortal punishments- and I got to take a helicopter  above hell! It was really so much fun, if you ever want a place to vacation at I highly recommended Hell.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 18, 2017, 05:53:54 AM
No Joe dude I am telling you, I was there last summer visiting dead relatives.I saw Hitler and that rock pushy guy and took a tour of all the mortal punishments- and I got to take a helicopter  above hell! It was really so much fun, if you ever want a place to vacation at I highly recommended Hell.
I've heard that it is where they send some people like me


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 18, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
I've heard that it is where they send some people like me
dude it's AWFUL you'll love it


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 18, 2017, 06:02:36 AM
I think this is the thread that devolved to "Joe v. religion" the fastest.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 18, 2017, 09:17:53 AM
This is not about Hell in this topic or what you believe in (Whether God exists)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 18, 2017, 10:08:39 AM
Yes, hell is a fictional place. Even if heaven and hell were real, which they aren't, according to John 3:16 from the new testament, all that one has to do to be admitted to heaven is believe in God, specifically the Christian God, and Hitler did believe in God, so he would be in heaven, not hell. This is just further evidence that God dost not exist, or if he does he certainly isn't just as the Bible claims in Deuteronomy 32:4.
For those of you who want to see these quotes

John 3:16

 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.

It says not believing, but exercising faith which is doing his will.

Deuteronomy 32:4

The Rock, perfect is his activity,
For all his ways are justice.
A God of faithfulness who is never unjust;
Righteous and upright is he.

Referenced from The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Revised) as are all my Bible quotes


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 18, 2017, 05:26:28 PM
hey lets all chill and be gay

and if were gonna keep arguing who wants to hear my controversial opinion, because at least its related to the topic


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MariaYuki on January 18, 2017, 05:30:06 PM
I am actually bisexual, but my family are homophobics, so I haven't told them.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Lil Nas Flex on January 18, 2017, 05:33:29 PM
Please don't argue about religion here, even though we have different beliefs, we should stick to the topic more
^


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 18, 2017, 05:51:08 PM
TBF if someone brings up religion, it's a bit difficult to just stay away and act like it was never brought up.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 18, 2017, 07:11:06 PM
Hell is amazing. I go to there 5 days a week on average.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 18, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
Welcome to hell


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 18, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
Hell is amazing. I go to there 5 days a week on average.

7 days, beat that bleep


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 18, 2017, 07:17:54 PM
Yeesh guys, hell is no fun if you go there too often. It's like living in London- it's not cool if you live there.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 18, 2017, 07:19:58 PM
Yeesh guys, hell is no fun if you go there too often. It's like living in London- it's not cool if you live there.

I live in London :(

Ontario...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 18, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
I never told my mom that I was bisexual-


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 18, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
my mom knows im a lesbian but shes one of those "why does everything have to be gay" kind of people


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 19, 2017, 12:40:37 AM
I live in London :(

Ontario...
Wait really?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 19, 2017, 02:30:42 AM
I live in place where people are disgusted with this thing
So i secretly write my character as gay and hide the word from them, the story about the character too

You do know i make a lot character, the gay one is the main character, so i have to hide the whole story


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 19, 2017, 03:46:02 AM
I opened up a couple of days ago to my dad.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 19, 2017, 04:07:30 AM
I opened up a couple of days ago to my dad.

Congratulations!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 19, 2017, 04:09:09 AM
Congratulations!
He is homophobic, so it was a challenge. He told me he'll "turn me into a man again."


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 19, 2017, 05:56:50 AM
He is homophobic, so it was a challenge. He told me he'll "turn me into a man again."

Well I hope he'll come to terms with it eventually.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on January 19, 2017, 10:57:37 AM
He is homophobic, so it was a challenge. He told me he'll "turn me into a man again."
But you said your problem is biological :/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: The Real Alien on January 19, 2017, 12:45:01 PM
He is homophobic, so it was a challenge. He told me he'll "turn me into a man again."
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 19, 2017, 02:08:04 PM
But you said your problem is biological :/
Wut...?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Are you thinking of the eggplant emoji...?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 19, 2017, 03:58:05 PM
any of you with crappy unaccepting folks: you live with me now


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 19, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/01/18/trump-meets-with-potential-supreme-court-nominee-who-wants-gays-jailed-for-having-sex/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 19, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
I opened up a couple of days ago to my dad.
Good job!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 20, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
I'll be putting up different surveys to see if results will change or be consistent.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 20, 2017, 03:53:36 PM
Maybe a poll on your sexuality...though this forum is mostly younger people so I don't think many would really see it...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 20, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
Maybe a poll on your sexuality...though this forum is mostly younger people so I don't think many would really see it...
I'll do that eventually, but I'm planning to do "support" surveys first. After that, we can do that. My plan is to see how results will change overtime, so a survey will be repeated after a cycle of surveys.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on January 20, 2017, 09:37:05 PM
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/01/18/trump-meets-with-potential-supreme-court-nominee-who-wants-gays-jailed-for-having-sex/
are you serious? This is so not happening.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 21, 2017, 06:45:26 PM
Honestly, homosexuality is only unaccepted because of religion. There's nothing else really.

Listen to this song. I really love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7IP4UlXvG8


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 21, 2017, 07:20:46 PM
Honestly, homosexuality is only unaccepted because of religion. There's nothing else really.

Listen to this song. I really love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7IP4UlXvG8

There are more factors than religion, though.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 21, 2017, 07:21:57 PM
There are more factors than religion, though.
Such as?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 21, 2017, 07:45:06 PM
jesse y joy cover is better. also if were gonna post gay songs then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0MT8SwNa_U


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 22, 2017, 04:22:29 AM
jesse y joy cover is better. also if were gonna post gay songs then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0MT8SwNa_U
Our teacher showed the video I posted, so that's what I know. I'll see Jesse Y Joy's cover too. When my teacher started showing the video and talked about tolerance, I was like "To all you homophobic b*****, I ain't alone."


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 23, 2017, 01:26:45 PM
My busmate told my best friend, "Stay away from him--her (me). You still have hope. She (me) doesn't have."


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 23, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
People say it's homophobic to disagree with same-sex couples, but it's not. It would only be homophobic to show hatred, fear or discrimination towards them. I just don't agree with it, is all.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MariaYuki on January 23, 2017, 05:25:30 PM
People say it's homophobic to disagree with same-sex couples, but it's not. It would only be homophobic to show hatred, fear or discrimination towards them. I just don't agree with it, is all.
Actually, not hatred. Only if they hated them because they are gay.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 23, 2017, 05:51:59 PM
I don't really care what your stance on homosexuality is just please don't be mean to them.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Keridan on January 23, 2017, 07:14:40 PM
Gay trans man here, fun times. This forum is... very much a mess, if I have to say.

The fact that people can honestly say "I don't support this but I swear I'm not homophobic" just baffles me.

So you don't approve of our existence, yet you swear you aren't this bad thing cause... a book?

It's one thing to have faith, it's another if that faith leads you to reject a whole group of people. Literally all we've done is exist, and people say it's abhorrent that we do. What kind of good will is that?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 23, 2017, 07:24:32 PM
Gay trans man here, fun times. This forum is... very much a mess, if I have to say.

The fact that people can honestly say "I don't support this but I swear I'm not homophobic" just baffles me.

So you don't approve of our existence, yet you swear you aren't this bad thing cause... a book?

It's one thing to have faith, it's another if that faith leads you to reject a whole group of people. Literally all we've done is exist, and people say it's abhorrent that we do. What kind of good will is that?

Homophobia is to have a hatred of gay people.

Some people don't support the concept of homosexuality, however they do not dislike the people who are homosexuals.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Keridan on January 23, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
Homophobia is to have a hatred of gay people.

Some people don't support the concept of homosexuality, however they do not dislike the people who are homosexuals.

To dislike homosexuality is to dislike a part of what someone is. It is a form of homophobia, it doesn't just extend to outright hatred. For disliking IS a form of hatred, whether people want to admit it or not.

Would you still be so defending if I said something like "I dislike straight people because of the historical violence and oppression they have dealt us? The fact they do their best to take away our rights, if not outright kill us?"


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 23, 2017, 07:39:14 PM
To dislike homosexuality is to dislike a part of what someone is. It is a form of homophobia, it doesn't just extend to outright hatred. For disliking IS a form of hatred, whether people want to admit it or not.

Would you still be so defending if I said something like "I dislike straight people because of the historical violence and oppression they have dealt us? The fact they do their best to take away our rights, if not outright kill us?"

It's the same thing as you shouldn't be hating on people for sexual orientation, or gender, etc.

I personally don't understand why some people  do hate people for such reasons.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 23, 2017, 07:41:36 PM
Homosexuality is genetic, not a choice someone makes. Also other organisms also display homosexuality, it isn't just humans.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 23, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
Homosexuality is genetic, not a choice someone makes. Also other organisms also display homosexuality, it isn't just humans.

This is true, I don't get those people.

"HOMOSEXUALS JUST WANT PLEASURE FROM ANYONE THEY CAN FIND!"


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 23, 2017, 08:28:58 PM
homophobia=/=just outright hatred. even if you just say "i dont agree with gay people" youre still disapproving our existence. and like joe said, "being gay is a choice" is a topn of crap. if we chose whether to be gay or trans or the such that would imply that we choose to get harassed and oppressed by people who hate us.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 24, 2017, 01:07:39 AM
I don't agree with homosexuality and the act of it, but that doesn't mean I hate them. I disagree of what they're doing, not their existence. I am not going to go around to people saying "you are bad because you are gay" or push them out because they are gay.

I don't really get all the celebrations of gay to be honest... like, it's a bit weird like you don't see Heterosexual Parades and Pride Days or "Stop Heterophobia".


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 24, 2017, 01:21:19 AM
Maybe that's because heterophobia isn't an issue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 24, 2017, 01:23:47 AM
Yeah, because, well... people will get annoyed if I say anything more so... okay.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 24, 2017, 03:09:50 AM
I don't agree with homosexuality and the act of it, but that doesn't mean I hate them. I disagree of what they're doing, not their existence. I am not going to go around to people saying "you are bad because you are gay" or push them out because they are gay.

I don't really get all the celebrations of gay to be honest... like, it's a bit weird like you don't see Heterosexual Parades and Pride Days or "Stop Heterophobia".
since when were heteros abused?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 24, 2017, 03:12:49 AM
since when were heteros abused?
I would also like to know this


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 24, 2017, 03:13:05 AM
I am not saying they were

A phobia is a fear or hatred


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 24, 2017, 03:14:12 AM
Okay, so do you have any examples of people being explicit about their heterophobia?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 24, 2017, 03:19:37 AM
As a heterosexual person, I can confirm that, despite hearing anti-LGBTQ slurs used dozens of times as well as many instances of discrimination against LGBTQ people, not once have I or any other heterosexual people I know of been discriminated against for their sexuality.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 24, 2017, 05:41:58 AM
I don't really get all the celebrations of gay to be honest... like, it's a bit weird like you don't see Heterosexual Parades and Pride Days or "Stop Heterophobia".
It's because they have earned rights that should've been given to them, which were taken away by other people beforehand. Or maybe an act of protest. Whatever it is, it's nothing that heteros should be worrying about...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 24, 2017, 05:49:28 AM
Just like in Canada, I see a lot of celebrations for our minorities but never "White Canadians Celebration"


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 24, 2017, 06:02:57 AM
Just like in Canada, I see a lot of celebrations for our minorities but never "White Canadians Celebration"
i wish my country is like that
here, the majority get more attention (*cough* muslim *cough*)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 24, 2017, 06:55:37 AM
i wish my country is like that
here, the majority get more attention (*cough* muslim *cough*)
Same here. Usually they are triggered mullahs.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 24, 2017, 07:08:04 AM
Same here. Usually they are triggered mullahs.
obviously


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 24, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
I am not saying they were

A phobia is a fear or hatred
literally every homophobe says this

Just like in Canada, I see a lot of celebrations for our minorities but never "White Canadians Celebration"
maybe because white people arent actively hated against solely because of the color of their skin, unlike minorities. they have a right to say "screw white people" because they have been oppressed by them for so long. white/straight/cis people have had their rights forever, while we're left in the dust.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 25, 2017, 01:08:09 AM
literally every homophobe says this
I am not a "homophobe". I don't SUPPORT THEM.

I don't discriminate or abuse those who are homosexual, therefore, I am not homophobic.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 25, 2017, 05:11:01 AM
literally every homophobe says this
maybe because white people arent actively hated against solely because of the color of their skin, unlike minorities. they have a right to say "screw white people" because they have been oppressed by them for so long. white/straight/cis people have had their rights forever, while we're left in the dust.

I know why they do that, I was adding it to Zetsubeau's point.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 25, 2017, 08:14:27 AM
maybe because white people arent actively hated against solely because of the color of their skin, unlike minorities. they have a right to say "screw white people" because they have been oppressed by them for so long. white/straight/cis people have had their rights forever, while we're left in the dust.
Wait, so you are saying acting harshly to white and straight people is fine?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 25, 2017, 08:36:03 AM
Yes, but only because of the hundreds of years that straight, white people have largely been oppressing minorities. Do you even read full posts, or do you just pick out a phrase that you can take out of context and argue against?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 25, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
It's not alright to abuse or discriminate anyone, majority or minority.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 25, 2017, 08:54:20 AM
I'm not saying I agree with her opinion necessarily. I'm just pointing out that that post was one hell of a straw man fallacy.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on January 25, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
yes


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Keridan on January 25, 2017, 11:47:53 AM
I am not a "homophobe". I don't SUPPORT THEM.

I don't discriminate or abuse those who are homosexual, therefore, I am not homophobic.

Not supporting us IS homophobia. It is discrimination, because you are actively saying you don't agree with our existence.

Homophobia is far more than just physical violence.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 25, 2017, 12:55:43 PM
We're  going in circles here.

I guess we couldn't really understand what people like that go through unless we put ourselves in the same position. But all I have to say is: whether or not if you support them or whatever the cause may be, they should still treated as human beings and love on them.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 25, 2017, 03:17:43 PM
Though things like pride parades, or culture celebrations are fine, and I support them, it is definitely not okay to then be rude to straight people/white people.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Paramore on January 25, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
I voted Yes.

I think when it all comes down to it, we're all humans. One Population, One Society, One Race. Discrimination against people just because of their sexual orientation is just as bad as being racist towards someone who has a different skin colour or someone who doesn't have the same faith as you. I don't care if my religion says it's wrong, we need to support eachother. It's not like these people had a choice in the manner so it's not their fault for being who they are. Rant over, please don't start a fight like the love wins topic I created 2 years ago :/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 25, 2017, 09:31:01 PM
I'm totally against homosexuality. It's not supposed to happen. But character doesn't define a person so I don't have hate for homosexuals at all, and I'll be more than happy to have a gay friend. I avoid lesbians tho because I've been asked out by some. I guard my modesty before them as well.
hi im a lesbian does my existence bother you also if you dont agree with homosexuality ur still a homophobe!

I can't stand when someone calls himself/herself homosexual. And if you are heterosexual then you're nothing, you are homophobic, you need to be homosexual or you don't deserve to be here, it's like, well you have your rights and you can do whatever you want, but should I really need to be part of that community to be respected? Hell no! I'm ok with homosexuality, but when people start saying that kind of things I really can't support them...
"im ok with people being gay" "i cant stand gay people"
also you may feel that way but thats really not how it is....... though if someone says "screw staright people" they definitely have a right to. i dont care if youre straight, just dont disrespect me because im gay which you have already indirectly done so.

took this from the rebel topic since theres already discourse here!!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 26, 2017, 12:47:57 AM
I'm aware whenever i open this topic, people in my place are so homophobic, they don't like me to open this topic


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 26, 2017, 12:52:04 AM
Not supporting us IS homophobia. It is discrimination, because you are actively saying you don't agree with our existence.

Homophobia is far more than just physical violence.
No. I am not not agreeing with your existence. You being gay isn't the only thing about you. It's more than that. It's your family, friend, ethnicity, nationality, race, religion. Far more than just sexuality.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on January 26, 2017, 09:36:35 AM
I'm not sure of supporting it or not . . .


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Keridan on January 26, 2017, 11:22:29 AM
No. I am not not agreeing with your existence. You being gay isn't the only thing about you. It's more than that. It's your family, friend, ethnicity, nationality, race, religion. Far more than just sexuality.

Yes, but being gay still is a part of who I am. You can't just erase that part because it doesn't suit your needs.

It's like this. How would you feel if I said I didn't support straight people because of the years of oppression they've dealt us? Because it certainly wasn't other gay people that decided we should be discriminated against, or in some countries even be killed for simply loving someone.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 26, 2017, 05:50:06 PM
Yes, but being gay still is a part of who I am. You can't just erase that part because it doesn't suit your needs.

It's like this. How would you feel if I said I didn't support straight people because of the years of oppression they've dealt us? Because it certainly wasn't other gay people that decided we should be discriminated against, or in some countries even be killed for simply loving someone.
yeah, you cant be like "i dont care if people are gay" but then be like "i still dont like gay people". that shouldnt matter. but by saying that you dont like gay people but you still dont care if poeple are gay is both contradictory and homophobic. you cant give yourself a pat on the back just because you dont actively seek out gay people to beat up.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: SpongeBob29 on January 26, 2017, 07:27:00 PM
I identify myself as asexual, so I don't know whether to vote or not. I don't mind if someone else has a different orientation, but I have multiple reasons why I consider myself asexual. I'm not a coward or anything about these issues, I just feel like myself having no interest to anyone. People have been complaining about this a lot, so I don't want to start off with a debate. Just do whatever you want, I don't care. It's your opinion/choice.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 27, 2017, 12:43:27 AM
Yes, but being gay still is a part of who I am. You can't just erase that part because it doesn't suit your needs.

It's like this. How would you feel if I said I didn't support straight people because of the years of oppression they've dealt us? Because it certainly wasn't other gay people that decided we should be discriminated against, or in some countries even be killed for simply loving someone.
I'm going to break this down into sections:

-Okay, it's a part of who you are I just don't support that part. Doesn't make me hate you or other people who are gay. I am not trying to suit my needs by erasing who you are. Where did I say that?

-I don't care if you don't support straight people, that's your opinion just as my opinion of not supporting gay people.

-I have literally said that I myself don't discriminate them loads.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 27, 2017, 08:01:36 AM
I'm going to break this down into sections:

-Okay, it's a part of who you are I just don't support that part. Doesn't make me hate you or other people who are gay. I am not trying to suit my needs by erasing who you are. Where did I say that?

-I don't care if you don't support straight people, that's your opinion just as my opinion of not supporting gay people.

-I have literally said that I myself don't discriminate them loads.

you cant give yourself a pat on the back just because you dont actively seek out gay people to beat up.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 27, 2017, 08:12:37 AM
I'm not. My point is I'm not homophobic ;)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Keridan on January 27, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
I'm not. My point is I'm not homophobic ;)

You can't say you're not homophobic when you actively say you don't support us. That is one of the criteria for homophobia.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on January 27, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
Wait so if you don t support same sex couples then you are homophobic ??


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 27, 2017, 01:28:16 PM
Omg...

I noticed repetition going on in here.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Nickito on January 27, 2017, 01:32:18 PM
Wait so if you don t support same sex couples then you are homophobic ??
Yes, that's literally what homophobia is


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 27, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
No homophobia is a dislike of gay people if I recall not the concept of homosexuality.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on January 27, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
Gay people need love too.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 27, 2017, 02:47:09 PM
You can't say you're not homophobic when you actively say you don't support us. That is one of the criteria for homophobia.
Homophobia
Having or showing an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people:

I have said countless amount of times I don't dislike or discriminate them. You just need to accept that I am not homophobic and you are wrong. There might be a word for non-supporters but homophobic is not that word.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 27, 2017, 02:59:51 PM
"Don't dislike or discriminate them"

I'm sorry, what? You literally cited Leviticus 20:13 earlier in this thread and claimed that LGBTQ people would die in Armageddon.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 27, 2017, 03:02:13 PM
cringe


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 27, 2017, 05:24:27 PM
cringe

This whole thread is cringe, honestly does it even matter as long as nobody is mean to LGBT people?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 27, 2017, 05:29:51 PM
I feel like certain people do want to support homosexuality but question their faith in their religion.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 27, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
I have to admit I do have those once in a blue moon bi-curious feelings.
They were a lot stronger when I was younger. Being told constantly a boy would never want me for the way I looked.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 27, 2017, 05:34:44 PM
I feel like certain people do want to support homosexuality but question their faith in their religion.

I support it and don't really care what my religion says on some things. For me religion is not what decides my factors in anything.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 27, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
I support it and don't really care what my religion says on some things. For me religion is not what decides my factors in anything.
and when you were a newbie you were so... Devoted.

Character development be like


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 27, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
That's a part of growing up.

As you get older you start to see things differently.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 27, 2017, 06:06:45 PM
if you dont like gay people, youre a homophobe. whether its violent or just "i dont like gay people", youre a homophobe. plain and simple. if you dont like gay/trans/lgbt people then why are you in this thread. not for you. go whine that youre not homophobic somewhere else.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 27, 2017, 06:49:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qo36ZNC.jpg)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 27, 2017, 06:50:35 PM
this is all cringe


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on January 27, 2017, 06:52:56 PM
jesus TSH XD


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 27, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
Do you really think that I would criticize SJW's if I was one of them?

Mmm, you shouldn't get started. You remember what happened last time?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 27, 2017, 07:18:10 PM
I feel like certain people do want to support homosexuality but question their faith in their religion.
That's honestly me before, but, hey, i fell in love with someone who's not even real, why not support the LGBT? They're still a human that love each other no matter what people say


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 27, 2017, 07:19:00 PM
Do you really think that I would criticize SJW's if I was one of them?

You totally misinterpreted the meaning of the picture. I wasn't calling you an SJW; the person pressing the button in the picture represents you.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 27, 2017, 09:33:27 PM
I was calling her an SJW because she was making fun of anyone who could not accept homosexuals.
him pronouns please, i was just saying if you are against lgbt folk then why are you here? and if youre gonna whine about us then do it somewhere else. and i already told you im an sjw so tell me something i dont already know.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 27, 2017, 09:51:51 PM
This is, as one could assume, a topic that lets forumers discuss their opinions on LGBTQism. Having only one opinion ever expressed in this topic would make it really boring and heavily biased, so we need both people who are for this kind of stuff and people who are not. Also, there's even a poll up asking if you support same-sex marriage, which I can assume is not there just so that 50 forumers could vote "yes" and the "no" choice would just be collecting dust.
okay fine, you wanna see some "heavy bias" because some of my opinions on lgbt stuff are not popular u know


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 27, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
This is, as one could assume, a topic that lets forumers discuss their opinions on LGBTQism. Having only one opinion ever expressed in this topic would make it really boring and heavily biased, so we need both people who are for this kind of stuff and people who are not. Also, there's even a poll up asking if you support same-sex marriage, which I can assume is not there just so that 50 forumers could vote "yes" and the "no" choice would just be collecting dust.

It never directly states you can discuss your opinions about LGBTQ, you're technically supposed to discuss LGBTQ itself. The topic creator is bisexual.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 27, 2017, 10:46:19 PM
Homophobia
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

Source: Merriam Webster Dictionary

It never directly states you can discuss your opinions about LGBTQ, you're technically supposed to discuss LGBTQ itself. The topic creator is bisexual.
I've actually been full homosexual for months now.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 27, 2017, 10:47:42 PM
I'm sorry I haven't caught up :-[


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 27, 2017, 10:50:06 PM
I'm sorry I haven't caught up :-[
I actually just said it right now to this forum XD



New survey


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 28, 2017, 12:57:48 AM
"Don't dislike or discriminate them"

I'm sorry, what? You literally cited Leviticus 20:13 earlier in this thread and claimed that LGBTQ people would die in Armageddon.
I don't kill them. That's not me discriminated them.
if you dont like gay people, youre a homophobe. whether its violent or just "i dont like gay people", youre a homophobe. plain and simple. if you dont like gay/trans/lgbt people then why are you in this thread. not for you. go whine that youre not homophobic somewhere else.
Look, if you don't like them BECAUSE they are gay, then yes, but you might dislike them for another reason.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 28, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
if i get $1 for every time i cringe


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 28, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
So by that logic, infertile people shouldn't be allowed to be attracted to others either, right?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 28, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
I have to disagree with the reproduction statement :/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on January 28, 2017, 12:44:34 PM
LGBTQism doesn't make sense to me because two people of the same gender can't reproduce.
implying the only reason two people get together is to reproduce


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 28, 2017, 12:47:05 PM
Okay what is the difference between attraction and couples?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 28, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
Okay what is the difference between attraction and couples?
I am failing to see the difference in any of the poll


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 28, 2017, 12:56:27 PM
You can be attracted to someone and not be in a relationship.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on January 28, 2017, 01:10:40 PM
Okay so I ve got questions :
Is homosexuality genetic or environmental ?
Isnt homophobia about violence and stuff ?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 28, 2017, 01:12:22 PM
You can be attracted to someone and not be in a relationship.
That is not the question. It is about supporting.

It's a bit odd if you support Same Sex Marriage but not couples or attraction :/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 28, 2017, 01:27:11 PM
Maybe because people are troll voting no to satirize it for having essentially the same question?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 28, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
        The whole reason for couples in the first place is for reproduction. You do not see animals of the same gender getting together. In fact, they often fight each other for the opposite gender.

That's quite stupid, reproduction isn't the meaning of life


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 28, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
I can see where you are coming from


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 28, 2017, 02:38:29 PM
Okay so I ve got questions :
Is homosexuality genetic or environmental ?
Isnt homophobia about violence and stuff ?
Homosexuality is genetic. Homophobia is prejudice or discrimination against homosexuals.
The whole reason for couples in the first place is for reproduction. You do not see animals of the same gender getting together. In fact, they often fight each other for the opposite gender.
That is incorrect. Homosexual attraction can and does occur in almost all organisms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 28, 2017, 02:39:37 PM
There are some who can't reproduce.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 28, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
The meaning of life is to eat, survive, and reproduce.

It isn't, you can do whatever the bleep you want.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 28, 2017, 02:48:55 PM
That is the stupidest thing I have heard today.

Interesting, I thought it was impossible not to hear yourself talking.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 28, 2017, 02:51:22 PM
That is the stupidest thing I have heard today.

I'm afraid you quoted the wrong person, honey.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 28, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
Anyways, it's interesting how you ignore actual evidence provided by Joe1224, and instead spout nonsensical attacks without any evidence behind them at other users.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on January 28, 2017, 02:54:28 PM
That is not the question. It is about supporting.

It's a bit odd if you support Same Sex Marriage but not couples or attraction :/
Odd or not, it matters regardless...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on January 28, 2017, 02:55:42 PM
*Eats popcorn*


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 28, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
If supporting gay people is really the human race's downfall, then it would have happened by now.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 28, 2017, 03:10:47 PM
If you all want to support the downfall of the human race, so be it. But I have something to tell everyone here:

(http://ci.memecdn.com/900404.jpg)

"made of stupid"


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on January 28, 2017, 03:31:58 PM
The Human race is downfall would be the following:

Nuclear Warfare
Aliens?
Government issues
World Issues
Global Warming
etc

Homosexuality isn't even top 10.

I honestly think I've never met someone as delusional and stupid as Ianiant, I am dead serious.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2017, 03:33:04 PM
Is his logic that since LGBT couples can't reproduce, then humans will just stop reproducing and go extinct?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on January 28, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
Is his logic that since LGBT couples can't reproduce, then humans will just stop reproducing and go extinct?

Thats apparently the logic.

We are over 7 billion in population and are overpopulated.

so I don't even know


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 28, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
Not even 12% of humans are homosexual, so we won't be dying out any time soon.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 28, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
If it did hinder reproductive success we, and many other organisms, wouldn't have evolved to be homosexual. In fact women who are carries of the gay gene are more fertile. So the trait is beneficial.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/13/highereducation.research


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on January 28, 2017, 08:07:49 PM
Interesting, I thought it was impossible not to hear yourself talking.
WIN WIN WIN


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 29, 2017, 12:35:17 AM
I don't see anything wong with being lgbtq. I mean, every couple i've seen is really happy most the time, and the ones i know are well... adorable
Well... not every couple is happy, especially right now in Britain.

I honestly think I've never met someone as delusional and stupid as Ianiant, I am dead serious.

woo at least it's not me anymore


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on January 29, 2017, 01:01:58 AM
If anyone is confused...

The surveys overlap each other. However, they have differences.

Marriage is already when they are in a full on relationship.
Couple is just together.
Attraction/Crushing could be just simply desiring, not in a relationship.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 29, 2017, 01:03:18 AM
I have the same opinion on them all


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on January 29, 2017, 06:53:19 AM
Homosexuality is genetic. Homophobia is prejudice or discrimination against homosexuals.That is incorrect. Homosexual attraction can and does occur in almost all organisms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
Alright , so then I support it .


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 29, 2017, 08:12:19 AM
woo at least it's not me anymore
just because we stopped talking about you doesnt mean we completely forgot about you???? also if youre not gay you dont get to say "im not a homophobe" or dictate what is and isnt homophobic.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 29, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Woah what are you on about? Are you looking for an argument?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 29, 2017, 08:16:27 AM
Woah what are you on about? Are you looking for an argument?
this whole thread has basically been arguments so i dont see the problem


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 29, 2017, 08:19:30 AM
Okay. So. I was making a joke at PepsiMan when he said something and all of a sudden you bring this up...
also if youre not gay you dont get to say "im not a homophobe" or dictate what is and isnt homophobic.
I can say I'm not a homophobe, because I'm not


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on January 29, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
To clear things up, this topic will be unlocked in about 19 hours due to fights here.

If people continue to fight here it will be locked for 72 hours and then deleted next time.

Please respect the fact that Miss Kamila simply wants a nice topic


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 30, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
Okay then


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 30, 2017, 01:41:28 PM
hellow my fellow gays im very gay and i hope you have a gay day


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 30, 2017, 01:48:51 PM
I hope I don't


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 30, 2017, 02:56:14 PM
I hope I don't
do you seriously have to respond to everything i say. anyways have a great gay day y'all


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 30, 2017, 02:57:48 PM
Not necessarily, but I was being polite and not ignoring you. I will you want.

What is a very good gay day?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 30, 2017, 02:58:16 PM
I hope I don't

You can't make posts like this and then act shocked and offended when it starts a debate.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 30, 2017, 02:59:36 PM
What's the problem with me not wanting a gay day?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 30, 2017, 03:00:28 PM
Not necessarily, but I was being polite and not ignoring you. I will you want.

What is a very good gay day?
when youre gay and you have a good day, and besides i said "to all my fellow gays".


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 30, 2017, 03:01:11 PM
Oh okay.

Are the straight people permitted to have a good day?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 30, 2017, 03:05:28 PM
Oh okay.

Are the straight people permitted to have a good day?
like i said do you seriously have to reply to every single post i make. im just trying to tell my fellow lgbt people to have a good day but you keep butting in. im not gonna get all angry over this but really.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on January 30, 2017, 03:08:39 PM
What's the problem with me not wanting a gay day?

My point is that you didn't have to respond. If anything, I feel like you're probably trying to cause an argument intentionally at this point.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MariaYuki on January 30, 2017, 03:53:58 PM
Can I have a good gay day if I'm bi?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on January 30, 2017, 04:42:17 PM
ironic cause gay also means happy so all y'all have a gay day :))


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on January 30, 2017, 06:50:23 PM
As if Trump hasn't caused enough chaos, but Trump will sign an executive order allowing Employees to discriminate against LGBT people in the workplace, and refuse service to someone for being LGBT.
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/brody_levesque/exclusive_sources_possible_executive_order_to_roll_back_obama_s_federal_protections_for_lgbt_employees_in_the_works


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on January 30, 2017, 09:00:00 PM
Can I have a good gay day if I'm bi?
yes, gay was a little specific but i really meant all my lgbt pals!!!

also i just remembered this gif where 2 girls are getting married (one is pretending to be a guy with a fake mustache) and once the priest marries him the girl rips off the fake mustache and says "no takebacks" and then she kisses her wife while the priest in the bg literally explodes and its so funny


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on January 31, 2017, 12:20:39 AM
As if Trump hasn't caused enough chaos, but Trump will sign an executive order allowing Employees to discriminate against LGBT people in the workplace, and refuse service to someone for being LGBT.
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/brody_levesque/exclusive_sources_possible_executive_order_to_roll_back_obama_s_federal_protections_for_lgbt_employees_in_the_works
I really want to go to america just to punch trump's face!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on January 31, 2017, 11:41:26 PM
Thanks French Them! I hope you have a good gay day, too!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 01, 2017, 07:38:24 AM
Thanks French Them! I hope you have a good gay day, too!
aw thank ya  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on February 05, 2017, 10:52:21 PM
New poll!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 06, 2017, 12:17:19 AM
Heterosexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: rainbowcherry on February 06, 2017, 03:20:44 AM
Asexual. 


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on February 06, 2017, 04:03:36 AM
Heterosexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on February 06, 2017, 04:33:17 AM
Heterosexual

And then i see objectumsexual
It's basiccaly me and BMW


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on February 06, 2017, 06:18:20 AM
Homosexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on February 06, 2017, 09:06:25 AM
Heterosexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 06, 2017, 09:07:03 AM
Heterosexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on February 06, 2017, 09:32:45 AM
Asexual, and maybe aromantic too (still figuring this out)


Title: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Ghost on February 09, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
     Some of you may have already seen what I posted on Facebook, some of you may not. For the latter, I'll be posting it here.
     Ever since 7th grade, I've had a feeling in the back of my head that's never gone away. After 2 years of keeping silent about it, the feeling remained. My appearance along with that began to change. I wore looser-fitting shirts. I wore jeans that were wide at the ankles. I cut my hair really short. I acted different from most of the girls.
     Still, afraid of being criticized, I shut up about it. I didn't even tell my closest friends...until I had a dream. This dream involved a change. A change I was previously afraid of, but have now accepted. My confession to all of you is...
    I'm transgender. There, I said it. I don't like being female. As previously stated, this now 2-year-old feeling has never gone away. I hope you guys understand how I feel about this.


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Kamarov on February 09, 2017, 04:47:56 PM
Ganbatte!!
I support you!!


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Leia on February 09, 2017, 04:51:02 PM
Thanks for coming out, it must have taken a lot of courage. I'll support you no matter what you feel.


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: sansaery on February 09, 2017, 04:53:01 PM
I know I said this on facebook, but I'm so proud of you, and I find it amazing you had the courage to do this. I will refer to you as he/him from now on. :)


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: rainbowcherry on February 09, 2017, 04:57:16 PM
I'll support you.  ;D

You are so brave. Congratulations.  :cheery:


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Abu on February 09, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
It's great that you had the courage to come out.

You go...guy! :P


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MariaYuki on February 09, 2017, 05:17:45 PM
Questioning


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Ryuji on February 09, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
I support you in every way, since I'm gay. We have to overcome together.


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: Faiz on February 09, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
Good


Title: Re: "Uncloseted"
Post by: French them on February 09, 2017, 09:05:04 PM
im proud of you for coming out! its really hard to do, and you had the bravery to do it. im here for you 100%!!!!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on February 10, 2017, 09:39:02 AM
I see how open people are on this survey.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 10, 2017, 09:43:54 AM
Heterosexual
In a relationship with a girl as you know


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 10, 2017, 09:49:27 AM
Actually 2 years ago I was asexual because I didn't even want to talk about that theme


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on February 10, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
Pansexual.
Actually to be exact, I haven't ever been attracted to anyone sexually/romantically before, but I prefer choosing based upon personality rather than sex/gender.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 10, 2017, 10:09:21 PM
i found this really cute pilot short called rock n' riot, its about a popular greaser girl alling in love with a preppy girl and embarrassingly trying to woo her its adorable

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8xbqvFPYI


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on February 11, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
I don't really know.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on February 11, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
Glad to see nobody is Objectusexual ;p
Me and my pillow XD


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 11, 2017, 04:29:23 PM
some of these are really dumb and not even legit just saying


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on February 11, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
some of these are really dumb and not even legit just saying
Apparently, there are some people who're like some of the silly orientations.

A good example is Kim Kardashian, who is objectumsexual. jkjk


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on February 11, 2017, 05:56:36 PM
I'm mostly demisexual, honestly. (Doesn't feel sexual attraction until they have a strong emotional attraction)

I need plot.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on February 11, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
I don't really get Hetero and Homo flexible... Yes, I us erstand one leads more on way, but isn't it, in a sense, bisexual?

Somewhat, yes, but a bit different.

I wouldn't consider them actual sexualities but preferences.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 11, 2017, 08:07:00 PM
I don't really get Hetero and Homo flexible... Yes, I us erstand one leads more on way, but isn't it, in a sense, bisexual?
yeah pretty much


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on February 11, 2017, 08:09:29 PM
I don't really get Hetero and Homo flexible... Yes, I us erstand one leads more on way, but isn't it, in a sense, bisexual?
Not all relationships are sexual (Yes, there are people who get in relationships because of actual romantic reasons)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 12, 2017, 02:10:49 AM
Most of us are lying
They hide the truth and I think this topic shouldn't even exist
Who is gonna use our sexuality? Why does he even care?
I don't know but I think that this topic is not useful
We don't even know each other
If someone wants here to know someone else better he can do it by sending pms not millions of topics that are related only with one feature of our personality


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 12, 2017, 02:14:52 AM
I know I am heterosexual. I have never been attracted to anything else


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 12, 2017, 02:18:57 AM
I know I am heterosexual. I have never been attracted to anything else
Me too
But the point of my post was that I can't trust anyone according to his real sexuality
That doesn't tell me anything


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on February 12, 2017, 03:39:23 AM
I might be hetero
But i only show it for guys with high standard (which is only my insting could tell)
I like girls too, if their standard is very high

There. I'm honest. I'm materialistic. You can be hot, but you will never date me. You can be rich, but i don't need you. You can love me, i could love you too. I could date anyone who loves me girl or boy. Trans or not. Only if you love me. Not a problem for me. I never really loved. So whenever people said they love me. I could cry in happiness.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 12, 2017, 04:28:27 AM
I might be hetero
But i only show it for guys with high standard (which is only my insting could tell)
I like girls too, if their standard is very high

There. I'm honest. I'm materialistic. You can be hot, but you will never date me. You can be rich, but i don't need you. You can love me, i could love you too. I could date anyone who loves me girl or boy. Trans or not. Only if you love me. Not a problem for me. I never really loved. So whenever people said they love me. I could cry in happiness.
Fresh air
That doesn't convince anyone to trust you


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: OfficiallyVocatrash on February 12, 2017, 08:19:08 PM
I'm super lesbian and hardly understand what makes guys hot
don't mind me just gonna


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on February 12, 2017, 10:56:00 PM
^I'm the exact opposite because I'm super gay.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on February 13, 2017, 04:06:38 AM
Most of us are lying
They hide the truth and I think this topic shouldn't even exist
Who is gonna use our sexuality? Why does he even care?
I don't know but I think that this topic is not useful
We don't even know each other
If someone wants here to know someone else better he can do it by sending pms not millions of topics that are related only with one feature of our personality
Umm...please read first the first post.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 13, 2017, 04:19:41 PM
idk whether i posted about this poll or not but im a Big Big Lesbo


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 15, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
Can't choose between heterosexual and demisexual, and I'm sapiosexual too.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 15, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
sapiosexuality isnt real and its also ableist


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 15, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
What even is it?
youre attracted to smart people, which is gross and bad because that would mean they think people with developmental disorders/learning disabilities are stupid.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on February 15, 2017, 06:23:25 PM
Also, that is a preference not a sexuality.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 15, 2017, 06:23:56 PM
Also, that is a preference not a sexuality.
yeah, and even then its still pretty bad


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on February 15, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
youre attracted to smart people, which is gross and bad because that would mean they think people with developmental disorders/learning disabilities are stupid.
Not really. There are many people with mental disabilities which are smart. For example Albert Einstein was autistic. I am also sapiosexual.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 15, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
 Only because I'm attracted to smart boys doesn't mean thaf I find other people stupid or disrespect mentally disabled people.

Lemme tell you a true story: Last October this one guy with a very cute face asked me out and since he was an athlete he had six-pack abs and all those... I didn't say yes only because he doesn't read books. But I have crushed on a guy who is not good-looking at all but, damn smart.

But my attraction towards smart boys actually has to do a lot with my insecurities


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 15, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
either way sapiosexuality isnt legit


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 15, 2017, 10:36:23 PM
either way sapiosexuality isnt legit
Yes and no. It is just an informal term, but very useful.

Although it's used for being attracted to science freaks, I also get turned on when I see that a guy has a lot of political knowledge as well and isn't brainwashed by the society or media.

My very first crush in life was a guy who was fluent in 5 languages... I was like daaaayyuummmmmm


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on February 16, 2017, 03:47:23 AM
when I see that a guy has a lot of political knowledge as well
aww


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on February 16, 2017, 04:49:31 AM
Yes, my uncle is married to a man.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 16, 2017, 05:42:52 AM
Yes, my uncle is married to a man.
That means America


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 16, 2017, 12:29:49 PM
aww
Yes boiiii ::) ;)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 16, 2017, 01:23:06 PM
I know people who are pan and bi but it is really confusing and they aren't exactly my "friends" and to be honest, I think some of them are lying.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 16, 2017, 04:29:58 PM
i dont have any gay relatives but my best friend is bi

I know people who are pan and bi but it is really confusing and they aren't exactly my "friends" and to be honest, I think some of them are lying.
just because they have preferences to one gender doesnt mean theyre lying. you can be pan/bi and have preferences.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 16, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
Okay guys don't be angry I'm telling a truth:

It's okay to be bi/gay. It's okay to let know that you have a crush on a straight person. There's also nothing wrong with saying someone looks hot.

It gets annoying af when you start flirting with them, touching inappropriately or sending inappropriate text/pics.

I definitely meant people of your same gender here.

Okay, think of it this way:

As a straight girl, I'm fine with guys crushing on me, letting me know that he likes me. But if a guy says I'm hot, it's depending on the person, timing, place and situation that I'll decide whether or not I would take that as a compliment or annoyance.

Neither is it appropriate for a guy to touch me in a bad way, or talk dirty and make me feel uncomfortable, not is it appropriate for a lesbian to behave like that with me, even if we're the same gender.

So yeah sometimes I DO judge LGBT people... like that lesbian girl in class who touched my waist intentionally and sent me some of her bad pics... I blocked her.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 16, 2017, 10:44:54 PM
yeah, straight people just like to assume that if someone is gay/bi/whatever, basically any form of contact made with them is assumed as "flirting". thats annoying and untrue. if theyre doing stuff like ixora said, like touching you without your consent, that stuff isnt cool. but just because theyre in your prescence or they have a crush on a straight person doesnt mean theyre "flirting" or lying about their sexuality. ive crushed on straight people, and that doesnt invalidate my sexuality


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 17, 2017, 02:11:44 AM
i dont have any gay relatives but my best friend is bi
just because they have preferences to one gender doesnt mean theyre lying. you can be pan/bi and have preferences.
I seriously think that they do it for attention, you don't know them, I do.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 17, 2017, 05:38:31 AM
Greece is all clear

2% of its population is non hetero


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on February 17, 2017, 05:56:33 AM
Nope idk any


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 17, 2017, 10:29:43 AM
yeah, straight people just like to assume that if someone is gay/bi/whatever, basically any form of contact made with them is assumed as "flirting". thats annoying and untrue. if theyre doing stuff like ixora said, like touching you without your consent, that stuff isnt cool. but just because theyre in your prescence or they have a crush on a straight person doesnt mean theyre "flirting" or lying about their sexuality. ive crushed on straight people, and that doesnt invalidate my sexuality
I said that it's ok to have a crush and also let know. Again, I would not treat a lesbian/bi girl's sexuality in a different way from straight guys. And what I meant by thethat compliment is: You would be flattered if you go to a party and someone calls you hot there, but you wouldn't be happy if the same thing happens randomly on the sidewalk, that's catcalling.

I don't just assume they are flirting just because they are touching. What happened with me was a totally different case. Not only did she touch my waist from behind, but I could feel a light press too. No boy does that.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on February 17, 2017, 03:01:20 PM
I crush on straight guys all the time. There's only one other gay guy in my Catholic school district. He is not on any sports team. I'm not sure which school he goes to but I assume its a certain one. All of my friends say I should hook up with him but the thing is

1. I don't want to date right now, even though my crushes are making it tempting.
2. He is SO annoying and thinks that I'm faking my sexuality because I didn't tell him, rude guys in my class did.
(#3+4 are scenarios if I did want to date him.)
3. If I do hook up with him, those boys would make fun of me so much because they honestly hate me and ALL gay guys. (Even though some kid in my class is homophobic because of his protestant religion and the boys thought that was "mean")
4. There's the risk of my mom finding out


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 18, 2017, 01:55:21 AM
I crush on straight guys all the time. There's only one other gay guy in my Catholic school district. He is not on any sports team. I'm not sure which school he goes to but I assume its a certain one. All of my friends say I should hook up with him but the thing is

1. I don't want to date right now, even though my crushes are making it tempting.
2. He is SO annoying and thinks that I'm faking my sexuality because I didn't tell him, rude guys in my class did.
(#3+4 are scenarios if I did want to date him.)
3. If I do hook up with him, those boys would make fun of me so much because they honestly hate me and ALL gay guys. (Even though some kid in my class is homophobic because of his protestant religion and the boys thought that was "mean")
4. There's the risk of my mom finding out
Omg you are taking it so seriously and you are just... 14?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 18, 2017, 07:41:06 AM
Omg you are taking it so seriously and you are just... 14?
if youre straight you have no reason to judge


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on February 18, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
TIL that, as a 14 year old, I'm not allowed to find other people attractive


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Nickito on February 18, 2017, 09:52:47 AM
Omg you are taking it so seriously and you are just... 14?
aren't you like 7 or 8 though


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 18, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
aren't you like 7 or 8 though
LMFAO


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 18, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
if youre straight you have no reason to judge
Yes I am straight
aren't you like 7 or 8 though
No I am 17

And to be clear I know about wrong or right choices in love better than you


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 18, 2017, 12:19:58 PM
People younger than you have emotions too, we feel love, we feel attraction, we feel depressed, we feel anxious. Does age really matter in this situation?
I am not that monster you think I am. When you realise that, it will be too late
Now you'll ask me what sense does that make?
I' ll answer
I never said the opposite but you can't forbid me to discuss about things I am not
Yes, I am not gay, yes, I am straight
I am proud of it
Yes, do you hear me?, I am proud
Now that you know that, may I discuss about everything? Freely?
On the other hand I won't ask for your permission to discuss about something
I talked.





Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on February 19, 2017, 08:05:37 AM
No I am 17

And to be clear I know about wrong or right choices in love better than you
im 17 too. are you saying that because youre straight your decisions and thoughts related to love are beter than ours?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 19, 2017, 10:07:04 AM
im 17 too. are you saying that because youre straight your decisions and thoughts related to love are beter than ours?
Well you lost episodes
I am not 17,either hetero

I am 15 and asexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on February 19, 2017, 10:07:55 AM
Well you lost episodes
I am not 17,either hetero

I am 15 and asexual

..?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 19, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Yes I lied to you bcuz I didn't know you


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 19, 2017, 10:12:34 AM
I am not someone cool at all
I am a human with many problems as any other teen


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 19, 2017, 10:14:50 AM
You don't lie to people just because you don't know them -_-


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on February 19, 2017, 10:15:46 AM
Well you lost episodes
I am not 17,either hetero

I am 15 and asexual
I am not someone cool at all
I am a human with many problems as any other teen
you are not making any sense


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on February 19, 2017, 06:28:54 PM
Yo.

What's with the argument now?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on February 19, 2017, 06:31:01 PM
I am not someone cool at all
I am a human with many problems as any other teen
We all have problems but that is no excuse to lie.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on February 19, 2017, 06:32:56 PM
Yo.

What's with the argument now?

Not an argument, people are just confused at what PGuy said.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on February 19, 2017, 08:13:02 PM
I am not someone cool at all
I am a human with many problems as any other teen
??


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on February 23, 2017, 06:24:30 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/22/Trump-administration-orders-US-schools-to-ignore-Obama-transgender-bathroom-efforts/2901487784987/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ls&utm_medium=2


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on March 08, 2017, 04:31:18 AM
Le Bumpe, new poll


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on March 08, 2017, 06:03:21 AM
Preference obviously


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 08, 2017, 07:06:01 AM
I think neutral. I think that some feel this inside them before it just happened


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on March 08, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
Preference.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 08, 2017, 07:38:16 AM
It's better that's my opinion


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 08, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Genders and pronouns should depend on the Biological Sex.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 08, 2017, 03:33:39 PM
I'll call people whatever they want to be called. I really don't give a bleep.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 08, 2017, 09:31:25 PM
does this really even have to be a question


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 09, 2017, 04:27:15 AM
does this really even have to be a question

Apparently three people think so


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 09, 2017, 10:30:25 AM
If you call people by anything other than their preferred pronouns, you're being disrespectful


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 09, 2017, 03:15:22 PM
If you call people by anything other than their preferred pronouns, you're being disrespectful

What has this country come to?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on March 09, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
What has this country come to?

Can you kiss me?  :-*


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Nickito on March 09, 2017, 03:33:30 PM
What has this country come to?
if someone wants to be called 'he' or 'she', why not humour them, even if you don't agree with it?
I don't think I'd call someone anything except for he/she/they, but I'll listen to someone when they say what they want to be referred to as


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 09, 2017, 03:34:11 PM
Can you kiss me?  :-*

Sorry, but I am not gay.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on March 09, 2017, 03:42:16 PM
Sorry, but I am not gay.

Naaahhh, I know you want a kiss


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 09, 2017, 03:57:32 PM
Naaahhh, I know you want a kiss
hes a troll, just leave him be.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 09, 2017, 05:26:24 PM
hes a troll, just leave him be.

Me or PepsiMan?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 09, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
¿Porque no los dos?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 09, 2017, 07:23:38 PM
Naaahhh, I know you want a kiss
this is sexy as hell


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on March 09, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
hes a troll, just leave him be.

well what better than to ship a troll with a troll?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on March 10, 2017, 04:37:19 AM
I voted biological sex. Nice forum poll/discussion.

Personally, I don't really follow the debate about the LGBTQ topic very much, but something I've never understood is why someone would chose to be gay, transgender, or other things like that. I've heard the argument that some say they were born thinking like the opposite gender, but that's just who they are and what their likes or interests are. Thinking like the opposite gender doesn't mean that you are of the opposite gender, or that they're bisexual, or anything like that. A girl doesn't have to think or act feminine, and a guy doesn't have to necessarily "think like a guy" or have the same interests as other guys. I don't really understand bisexuality or asexuality, and I think that everyone just has their own personality and interests. A lot of LGBTQ people regret their lifestyle choices later on too from what I've been told. In the end, I suppose that it's each individual person's choice on how he or she wants to live his or her life, but I personally think that everyone was either born male or female, and that everyone is just different. I'm not trying to push my views on others, and I'm open to criticism. Like I said, I don't understand it very much, and if you disagree with me, any explanations would be helpful.
That's because sexuality isn't a choice. The feeling of attraction is a very sudden feeling. It can't just be controlled. Also, if your sexuality was a choice, why don't the non-heterosexuals not choose to be heterosexual since the LGBT isn't totally accepted?

What has this country come to?
An accepting one...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 10, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
do you really think we choose to be bullied, harassed, and possibly even killed?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
tbf
heterosexuals also get bullied, harassed, and possibly killed


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 10, 2017, 07:57:32 PM
tbf
heterosexuals also get bullied, harassed, and possibly killed
heterophobia doesnt exist


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 10, 2017, 07:57:58 PM
heterophobia doesnt exist

Just like homophobia, yes, yes it does.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
Honestly
anything exists really


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 10, 2017, 08:01:13 PM
straight people are the reason homophobia exists. us hating our oppressors is not oppression in itself


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on March 10, 2017, 08:02:50 PM
straight people are the reason homophobia exists. us hating our oppressors is not oppression in itself

Not all straight people are against homosexuality.

Even if they are the reason, There is no need to flaunt that homosexuality is the dominant form.

Especially since homophobia is on a downward trend.

PS: I do not like when gay people flaunt their gay frequently, Example; Tyler Oakley.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 10, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Not all straight people are against homosexuality.

Even if they are the reason, There is no need to flaunt that homosexuality is the dominant form.

Especially since homophobia is on a downward trend.

PS: I do not like when gay people flaunt their gay frequently, Example; Tyler Oakley.
im not saying every straight person is against lgbt. all i said is that theyre the reason it exists in the first place. also then you dont like me because i definietly flaunt my gay around lol


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 10, 2017, 08:15:13 PM
Just like homophobia, yes, yes it does.

Here's a thing that happened to one of my friends. I was there.

Basically, we were walking down the sidewalk, talking about something meaningless. I think it had to do with a movie. Then this bus screeches up, stops next to us, and a bunch of people with "Down with Cis" shirts climbed out and started beating him up. I was punched and kicked a bit too, but I managed to avoid brutalization by going for their faces. After figuring out what's happening, I started attacking them back, getting them off of him. He was quite injured but I called 911 and he made a full recovery at the hospital. I was fine, with only a cut on my arm that they patched up.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2017, 08:24:49 PM
im not saying every straight person is against lgbt. all i said is that theyre the reason it exists in the first place. also then you dont like me because i definietly flaunt my gay around lol

No, people who decided they don't like homosexuality are.

Them being straight is unrelated.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 10, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
No, people who decided they don't like homosexuality are.

Them being straight is unrelated.

So show me some non-straight people who dislike homosexuality then


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
So show me some non-straight people who dislike homosexuality then

The majority of people are straight which is why it is unrelated.

Someone decided to oppress them, but it wasn't because they are straight.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 10, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tJaBJjl.gif)

If it's not related to them being straight, then why did they oppress them? Did they just wake up one day and say "Hey, I think gay people are inferior"?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Basically I don't think all homophobia comes from "I'm straight and they're not!". Obviously some people think that and discriminate for that reason but not all, or even most. A lot of people are just taught it's bad


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 10, 2017, 08:34:09 PM
the point is that straight people are the biggest source of homophobia, and theyre the reason it exists in the first place.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 10, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
Here's a thing that happened to one of my friends. I was there.

Basically, we were walking down the sidewalk, talking about something meaningless. I think it had to do with a movie. Then this bus screeches up, stops next to us, and a bunch of people with "Down with Cis" shirts climbed out and started beating him up. I was punched and kicked a bit too, but I managed to avoid brutalization by going for their faces. After figuring out what's happening, I started attacking them back, getting them off of him. He was quite injured but I called 911 and he made a full recovery at the hospital. I was fine, with only a cut on my arm that they patched up.

All you homosexuals may hate us, but when you treat us like this, you're no better than us.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2017, 09:08:15 PM
lmfao


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Saburo on March 10, 2017, 09:09:30 PM
*spits out drink*


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: ComicSans on March 10, 2017, 09:09:47 PM
gr8 banter


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kangablue on March 10, 2017, 09:20:47 PM
The most recent Pentatnoix Video, touched this subject through there cover of Imagine, Pentatonix. It became #8 on Trending, not just because Pentatonix is awesome but because of the music video, starting around 2:00 minutes through which many people have been emotinal too.

SONG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLiWFUDJ95I&t=224s


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on March 10, 2017, 09:34:40 PM
All you homosexuals may hate us, but when you treat us like this, you're no better than us.
TSH is straight XD

Here's one thing, you're no better than homosexuals if you treat us like that. :)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 10, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
TSH is straight XD

He knows. He was supporting me and my friend, who were cruelly harassed by these cisphobic people.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 11, 2017, 04:07:21 AM
Well, lucky you
You know everything about sexuality but my social problems will never help me enjoy something as a couple with somebody : (


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 11, 2017, 08:15:54 AM
tbf
heterosexuals also get bullied, harassed, and possibly killed
Though not because of their sexuality. No one is going to bully, harass, or kill you because you're heterosexual. Heterophobia really does not exist


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 11, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
Though not because of their sexuality. No one is going to bully, harass, or kill you because you're heterosexual. Heterophobia really does not exist

Did you not read TSH's story?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 11, 2017, 10:07:23 AM
Did you not read TSH's story?
did you really take that seriously

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/down-with-cis


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on March 11, 2017, 10:53:23 AM
It seemed so real.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 11, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zYPhXA2zHCU


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Leia on March 11, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
The most recent Pentatnoix Video, touched this subject through there cover of Imagine, Pentatonix. It became #8 on Trending, not just because Pentatonix is awesome but because of the music video, starting around 2:00 minutes through which many people have been emotinal too.

SONG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLiWFUDJ95I&t=224s
THIS WAS AMAZING


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on March 11, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
Honestly no matter what kind of abnormalities you have (and it's not your fault if you're born like that! It's ok!), I'll call you a he or she depending on what gender you resemble more than what you act like more. Unless you have very ambiguous traits and it's hard totell whether or not you're a male or female (even when you look between your legs and can't tell, and yes it happens), only then we may prefer to call you what you act like and what you prefer.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: ComicSans on March 11, 2017, 12:41:48 PM
I'm indifferent/neutral

Example: I don't like the idea of homosexuality, BUT if you decide that you're homosexual, then fine. I respect that, and besides, nothing I can say will change your opinion.

And in the end, we're still human, and we're all mortal, so none of it really matters.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on March 11, 2017, 07:44:19 PM
my point is that straight people are the biggest source of homophobia, and they're the reason it exists in the first place.

what's your point though? Of course most of the anti-LGBTQ people are straight, but that doesn't mean that being straight is negative or bad in any way at all. Not all straight people are violent towards others who are different.

Sexuality isn't a choice. The feeling of attraction is a very sudden feeling. It can't just be controlled. Also, if your sexuality was a choice, why don't the non-heterosexuals not choose to be heterosexual since the LGBT isn't totally accepted?
sexual attraction to those who are of the same gender as you seems messed up to me. Yes, I for one was "taught that it was bad," but still I chose to believe that being gay is a choice.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 12, 2017, 09:16:20 AM
what's your point though? Of course most of the anti-LGBTQ people are straight, but that doesn't mean that being straight is negative or bad in any way at all. Not all straight people are violent towards others who are different.
i never said being straight was bad. i just said that staright people are the erason homophobia exists.

and being lgbt is definitely not a choice, i dont choose to be oppressed.

Honestly no matter what kind of abnormalities you have (and it's not your fault if you're born like that! It's ok!), I'll call you a he or she depending on what gender you resemble more than what you act like more. Unless you have very ambiguous traits and it's hard totell whether or not you're a male or female (even when you look between your legs and can't tell, and yes it happens), only then we may prefer to call you what you act like and what you prefer.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260818107113799681/273676082316705792/tumblr_inline_o2z0ltvgLe1u0luh7_500.jpg)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 12, 2017, 09:22:03 AM
Apparently 6 people would purposely misgender a transgender person. That's sad


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on March 12, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
Preference


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on March 12, 2017, 10:09:32 AM
i never said being straight was bad. i just said that staright people are the erason homophobia exists.

and being lgbt is definitely not a choice, i dont choose to be oppressed.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260818107113799681/273676082316705792/tumblr_inline_o2z0ltvgLe1u0luh7_500.jpg)
You probably realize I mean issues with sexual orientation and not sexuality? -.-


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on March 12, 2017, 10:10:20 AM
Apparently 6 people would purposely misgender a transgender person. That's sad
Explanation?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on March 12, 2017, 10:11:07 AM
[...] i just said that straight people are the reason homophobia exists.
Yes, but what do you mean by that? You make it sound as though straight people should be punished for homophobia existing...

and being lgbt is definitely not a choice, i dont choose to be oppressed.
Everything that we as humans think, believe, do, say is a choice. Everything about us is a choice, everything from what we believe to how we think is something that we chose.

Just as an example: A criminal chooses to commit a crime, but that doesn't mean he chooses to be arrested or punished.

I am definitely not comparing LGBTQ people to criminals or anything like that at all, but it's just an example of the same type of logic used. We make choices, and how we react to everything is a choice, but that doesn't necessarily mean we chose the results of our choice.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know you don't choose to be oppressed or hated.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 12, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
Explanation?
If you choose to call a transgender person by their biological sex, you're misgendering them. A trans woman is a woman, not a man. Same with trans men. If you call trans people by their biological sex, you're invalidating their identity, which is a really crappy thing to do.

I shouldn't have to explain this, it's kind of obvious


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on March 12, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
If you choose to call a transgender person by their biological sex, you're misgendering them. A trans woman is a woman, not a man. Same with trans men. If you call trans people by their biological sex, you're invalidating their identity, which is a really crappy thing to do.

I shouldn't have to explain this, it's kind of obvious
There's more than just transgender in this topic, like intersex and those with sexual ambiguity. It's so hard to keep track of all these, I just call someone he if he is more of male than female biologically. Keeping things simple doesn't mean that I'm misgendering someone.

Sometimes I don't get the point of all these labels. I don't even have to. Nobody likes being complex anyway.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 12, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
There's more than just transgender in this topic, like intersex and those with sexual ambiguity. It's so hard to keep track of all these, I just call someone he if he is more of male than female biologically. Keeping things simple doesn't mean that I'm misgendering someone.

Sometimes I don't get the point of all these labels. I don't even have to. Nobody likes being complex anyway.
it applies to anyone, not just trans people. if you dont use their pronouns youre being an asshat


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on March 12, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
what's your point though? Of course most of the anti-LGBTQ people are straight, but that doesn't mean that being straight is negative or bad in any way at all. Not all straight people are violent towards others who are different.
sexual attraction to those who are of the same gender as you seems messed up to me. Yes, I for one was "taught that it was bad," but still I chose to believe that being gay is a choice.
Attraction is a very sudden feeling. If you could control it, then we would've probably stopped being attracted to our crushes if they were already taken. It's like saying your biological sex at birth is a choice. It evolves, without your real control. That goes with sexual orientation as well.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on March 13, 2017, 05:02:37 AM
^Basically my life in a nutshell. I didn't choose to be the only gay kid in a Catholic school and get made fun of by everyone else. If I could, I would be straight.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on March 14, 2017, 11:08:24 PM
Preference, because that will make them happy. :)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on March 15, 2017, 02:14:00 AM
In the Filipino language, there are no pronouns for a certain sex.

He/She = Siya
Him/Her = Niya
His/Her = Kaniya


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on March 15, 2017, 06:12:21 AM
In the Filipino language, there are no pronouns for a certain sex.

English is special then.

Gender pronouns make writing and speaking so much easier.

Attraction is a very sudden feeling. If you could control it, then we would've probably stopped being attracted to our crushes if they were already taken. It's like saying your biological sex at birth is a choice. It evolves, without your real control. That goes with sexual orientation as well.

Does anyone even really know why some people are LGBTQ? Scientists have done multiple controlled studies and tests, and there is absolutely no biological or chemical difference between straight and gay people.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 15, 2017, 06:14:06 AM
It's just natural

Nobody really knows why


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on March 15, 2017, 07:59:13 AM
Does anyone even really know why some people are LGBTQ? Scientists have done multiple controlled studies and tests, and there is absolutely no biological or chemical difference between straight and gay people.
Will you cite your sources? Until then, here's some differences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Biological_differences_in_gay_men_and_lesbian_women


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on March 15, 2017, 10:02:12 AM
Can it be cured ?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: yoshilover99 on March 15, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
Can it be cured ?
There is no such thing as "curing".


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: yoshilover99 on March 15, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
Now that I think about it, it possibly could be a mental disorder.
Technically wouldn't that mean everyone would have a mental disorder? Your disorder would related to what gender you feel attracted to and how much?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 15, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
I meant being lgbtq, i'm sorry if that sounded rude,
that's not only rude, it's also insensitive. That's the kind of thought that supports conversion therapy.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 15, 2017, 10:52:17 AM
Okay some people need to stop being so mean to the people who don't support it

I support LGBT but if I'm rude to the people who don't I am just as bad as them


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 15, 2017, 10:53:59 AM
Sorry if I sound rude myself now but you just can't keep promoting free thinking if you then attempt suppressing other's thoughts


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on March 15, 2017, 11:01:41 AM
Okay some people need to stop being so mean to the people who don't support it

I support LGBT but if I'm rude to the people who don't I am just as bad as them
how am I being rude? I just explained how that wasn't a good thing to say.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 15, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
how am I being rude? I just explained how that wasn't good thing to say.

According to Kahili, anyone who dares to disagree with him is overreacting.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 15, 2017, 11:22:29 AM
how am I being rude? I just explained how that wasn't a good thing to say.

It wasn't directed to you, since I agree it's not a good thing to say. I was reading through the whole topic and there were posts were people said because they're LGBT, they can make fun of straight/cis people, which just makes no sense. If you're LGBT, then you're different, but you're still the same person and you don't deserve special treatment


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on March 15, 2017, 02:06:47 PM
It was my fault kahili, he just said that because what I said was jerkish

Robin, don't worry about it. I don't think you intended it with jerkishness.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ryuji on March 16, 2017, 05:36:26 AM
I don't find what Robin said offensive. I actually thought the same thing about straight people because I didn't understand how they liked who they liked.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on March 16, 2017, 06:08:54 AM
...that's the kind of thought that supports conversion therapy.
@PeppermindLeaf, thanks for mentioning that. I couldn't remember the name of it.

Could anyone explain to me about conversion therapy? Does it accomplish what it intends to at all?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on March 16, 2017, 06:11:45 AM
@PeppermindLeaf, thanks for mentioning that. I couldn't remember the name of it.

Could anyone explain to me about conversion therapy? Does it accomplish what it intends to at all?

Conversion therapy is pretty terrible. It never actually "converts" people's sexuality (which I doubt is possible but either way) and oftentimes just makes LGBT+ people feel worse and more depressed about their sexuality.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 16, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
Well, in theory all it is supposed to do is make someone love the opposite gender

But sexuality isn't a choice which is why it can't work.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on March 16, 2017, 08:20:16 AM
There is no such thing as "curing".
I meant convert from homosexuality to heterosexuality
Well, in theory all it is supposed to do is make someone love the opposite gender

But sexuality isn't a choice which is why it can't work.
So if sexuality isnt a choice , so it is genetic (born this way ) or affected by the surroudings??
Sorry for my tons of questions


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 16, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
Ir is genetic
It might be affecting by surroundings too but I'm not sure


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on March 16, 2017, 09:06:59 AM
They're probably the same thing as opinions (derived from pleasure (music taste, food flavor, etc))

And generally people are attracted not just distributed by gender; other features like weight, hair color, height, etc. contribute to a person's "ideal sexual partner" too. One cannot just... stop getting erotic from having seen someone who fits that criteria?  I don't really know how to explain it.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on March 16, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
They're probably the same thing as opinions (derived from pleasure (music taste, food flavor, etc))

And generally people are attracted not just distributed by gender; other features like weight, hair color, height, etc. contribute to a person's "ideal sexual partner" too. One cannot just... stop getting erotic from having seen someone who fits that criteria?  I don't really know how to explain it.

Think of it like a fetish?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on March 16, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
They're probably the same thing as opinions (derived from pleasure (music taste, food flavor, etc))

And generally people are attracted not just distributed by gender; other features like weight, hair color, height, etc. contribute to a person's "ideal sexual partner" too. One cannot just... stop getting erotic from having seen someone who fits that criteria?  I don't really know how to explain it.
Oh I get it now thanks


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 16, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
Conversio therapy sounds like modern torture  :o
it basically is, they use a lot of really bad things, both physical and mental in the hopes that youll become straight


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on March 16, 2017, 04:11:55 PM
Yeah they use trauma to make them abstain from even thinking about it... Well supposedly.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: French them on March 16, 2017, 08:58:48 PM
I wish it could become illegal, those people would eb scarred for life, or even worse
yeah, its awful that there are people who believe in it and that there are people that have been subjected to it.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 01, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
voted preference...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 01, 2017, 07:16:03 PM
Ir is genetic
It might be affecting by surroundings too but I'm not sure
It actually has both factors.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on April 01, 2017, 07:26:26 PM
It's genetic.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-genetic-homosexuality-nature-nurture-20151007-story.html
Also humans aren't the only organisms which partake in homosexual behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on April 01, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
I was one of the ones who voted Biological Sex (but you all probably expected that).


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Choco!Pie on April 02, 2017, 06:47:25 AM
I'm heterosexual aromantic , and possibly asexual...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 02, 2017, 06:58:38 AM
This topic is nothing for me.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on April 02, 2017, 06:45:09 PM
Preference.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on April 04, 2017, 01:56:19 AM
This topic is nothing for me.
Why...?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 04, 2017, 05:41:18 AM
Why...?
Because he's most likely straight.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 04, 2017, 08:44:11 AM
Because he's most likely straight.
It's nothing about my orientation and sexuality. It's about what we say


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 04, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
It's nothing about my orientation and sexuality. It's about what we say
Because you don't support gay rights...? You could just say so if you don't...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Sean on April 04, 2017, 12:50:49 PM
Preference


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on April 04, 2017, 03:08:04 PM
Biological Sex


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 07, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
Because you don't support gay rights...? You could just say so if you don't...
Yes, I don't support gays or lesbians or Muslims or.... That makes me racist but I don't care. That's what do I believe.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 07, 2017, 07:43:32 AM
Ayy lmao


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 07, 2017, 07:46:30 AM
Yes, I don't support gays or lesbians or Muslims or.... That makes me racist but I don't care. That's what do I believe.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 07, 2017, 07:50:48 AM
What? That's my view and my belief.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on April 07, 2017, 08:11:15 AM
What? That's my view and my belief.
you sound bigoted


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 07, 2017, 08:16:07 AM
You know, I don't really support straight people or Christians. It's just my belief, though. ;)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on April 07, 2017, 08:25:33 AM
He may be trolling. Well... I hope.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 07, 2017, 08:27:14 AM
He may be trolling. Well... I hope.

Next you'll tell me that when I posted this:

I saw Matt Neff at a grocery store in Cleveland yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a ∗∗∗∗ and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

I was bending the truth


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Mystic on April 07, 2017, 08:31:31 AM
Nah... I probably won't say anything the next time.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 07, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
What? That's my view and my belief.
I agree...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 07, 2017, 10:37:44 AM
you sound bigoted
And you mean..?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 07, 2017, 10:38:28 AM
He may be trolling. Well... I hope.
Sorry for the double post but that's true. I am not trolling.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 07, 2017, 10:57:13 AM
Sorry for the double post but that's true. I am not trolling.
She's talking about TSH...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on April 07, 2017, 03:47:56 PM
And you mean..?
I mean you sound like a bigot


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 07, 2017, 04:28:22 PM
I mean you sound like a bigot
Because he doesn't support LGBTQ? Anyone has the right to believe what they want...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 07, 2017, 10:09:14 PM
And everyone has the right to call out bigoted opinions as well.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 08, 2017, 01:20:57 AM
And everyone has the right to call out bigoted opinions as well.
Don't be so absolute


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 02:37:04 AM
I am just stating that other people do have the right to call out any opinion as bigoted or irrational.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 03:10:19 AM
Just please tell me you arent part of that SJW crap and that 76 genders bs


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 04:43:06 AM
Just please tell me you arent part of that SJW crap and that 76 genders bs
Where do the SJWs come in here? I am just saying that having a right to believe in and express one's opinions is complimented by others right to express what they believe about their opinion, so The King's post her doesn't make sense because PeppermintLeaf has the right to tell Thunder that she thinks his opinion is bigoted as well, the right to believe in what one wants isn't just limited to Thunderstorm.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 05:34:14 AM
Hey, Im not calling you an SJW, I just wanted to besure this topic isnt flooded by them


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 07:58:19 AM
Where do the SJWs come in here? I am just saying that having a right to believe in and express one's opinions is complimented by others right to express what they believe about their opinion, so The King's post her doesn't make sense because PeppermintLeaf has the right to tell Thunder that she thinks his opinion is bigoted as well, the right to believe in what one wants isn't just limited to Thunderstorm.
Okay, If a person calls you a bigot, they should explain themselves. That's my opinion...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 07:59:39 AM
Okay, If a person calls you a bigot, they should explain themselves. That's my opinion...
Yes, they should.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 08:00:45 AM
That's what I'm talking about. PeppermintLeaf wasn't explaining herself...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 08:02:09 AM
If you dislike someone (i.e. The LGBTQ community) you are a bigot, so PML didnt need to do any explaining.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 08:03:12 AM
Everybody is a BIGOT...We are all bigoted towards something...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 08, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
I don't care who dislikes who

If you don't actively hate people then I really don't care if you don't support a certain people


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 08:05:39 AM
Everybody is a BIGOT...We are all bigoted towards something...
There is a difference between not approving of something or disliking?/hating it. You may not approve of homosexuality and that is fine, but of you dislike gays for being gays or hate them,you are a bigot.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 08:14:36 AM
I love, I don't hate. I love everybody!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 08:18:23 AM
But according to your own post, everybody is a bigot...?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
Everybody would be a biggot


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
But according to your own post, everybody is a bigot...?
Everybody CAN be a bigot...towards anything


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 09:07:08 AM
Might stop talking about a word we dont even have exact definition of? XD
Also, whats the Q in name of the topic?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 08, 2017, 09:08:39 AM
Queer I believe.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 08, 2017, 09:10:16 AM
"Queer". Generally used as a catch all for any other non cishet sexualities and/or identities.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
Well  :eyebrow:


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
"LGBT" is more like "LGT" to be honest...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 09:55:10 AM
Might stop talking about a word we dont even have exact definition of? XD
Also, whats the Q in name of the topic?
I know the definition of it...It means "A person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions."


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
Please dont start an argument, people have their opinions and its best to just respect them
I'm not starting and argument...I'm just debating


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 10:01:18 AM
Please dont start an argument, people have their opinions and its best to just respect them
Who?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on April 08, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Please dont start an argument, people have their opinions and its best to just respect them

What argument? There is no argument going on.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on April 08, 2017, 10:16:33 AM
Might stop talking about a word we dont even have exact definition of? XD
Also, whats the Q in name of the topic?
Queer.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 10:25:14 AM
Thats...
Somebody who doesnt know his sexuality yet?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 08, 2017, 10:30:19 AM
Thats...
Somebody who doesnt know his sexuality yet?

I think so, although it can also mean anyone who doesn't identify as straight, bisexual, gay, or lesbian.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 10:35:07 AM
How the heck can you not identify as either of these
Hermaphrodite?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 10:46:50 AM
How the heck can you bot identify as either of these
Hermaphrodite?
OMG, I'm dying!  :hooray:


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 08, 2017, 11:13:30 AM
How the heck can you not identify as either of these
Hermaphrodite?

Asexuality is what immediately comes to mind


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
Asexuality is what immediately comes to mind
Except humans cant be asexual



Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
Is anybody here for law that you pay everytime you misgender someone?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 08, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
Yes ;)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
Stupid bait is stupid bait XD
But whatever, is any of you guys/gals/apachecopters here straight and cis?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 11:48:33 AM
Stupid bait is stupid bait XD
But whatever, is any of you guys/gals/apachecopters here straight and cis?
me me me


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 12:51:41 PM
People who look both make an female would be rich
Or just trans that have yet to change


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on April 08, 2017, 03:04:44 PM
Except humans cant be asexual
Except they can. I am asexual


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on April 08, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
Except they can. I am asexual
Is an asexual a person who wants nothing to do with love?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on April 08, 2017, 04:11:39 PM
Is an asexual a person who wants nothing to do with love?

Not necessarily; asexual people just don't have a sex drive per se (or have a very low one).


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 08, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
Oh, ok
Any genderfluid here?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 08, 2017, 09:49:09 PM
I am not a genderfluid.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on April 09, 2017, 01:25:53 AM
I don't know what I am. I like girls of course but sexuality can't determine my life


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 09, 2017, 02:33:07 AM
What do you mean you dont know who you are? XD


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on April 30, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
#ThereAreOnlyTwoGenders


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 06:37:18 AM
#ThereAreOnlyTwoGenders

*sexes


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 30, 2017, 06:48:47 AM
There are only two genders and only two sexes.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on April 30, 2017, 06:53:57 AM
*sexes
There's a difference between genders and sexes? I thought they were the same... :/


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 06:59:39 AM
There's a difference between genders and sexes? I thought they were the same... :/

Gender is mental. Some people don't identify with male or female.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on April 30, 2017, 07:03:34 AM
Gender is mental. Some people don't identify with male or female.
Well, that's their choice I guess. Gender and biological sex is all the same in my opinion.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on April 30, 2017, 07:14:54 AM
Well, that's their choice I guess. Gender and biological sex is all the same in my opinion.
Nope. Not a choice either. Research has shown evidence that there are certain genes that can make a person homosexual. Basically, a gay gene or even genes exist. Gender and sex evolutionized to be different. Gender is determined on how one acts or dresses then sex is determined through the genitals.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 07:18:31 AM
Well, that's their choice I guess. Gender and biological sex is all the same in my opinion.

It can't be the same though, since people clearly stated that they do not identify as male or female.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on April 30, 2017, 07:20:37 AM
Nope. Not a choice either. Research has shown evidence that there are certain genes that can make a person homosexual. Basically, a gay gene or even genes exist. Gender and sex evolutionized to be different. Gender is determined on how one acts or dresses then sex is determined through the genitals.
So being gay is a genetic defect then? If so, why aren't we trying to cure it? I'd be willing to donate money to fund research to find out more about it and find a cure for the genetic defect if that was the case.

In either case, being openly gay is a choice.

It can't be the same though, since people clearly stated that they do not identify as male or female.

That's just what they claim. Just because someone doesn't fit the stereotype for their biological gender doesn't mean that they don't identify as a male or female.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 30, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
Well, that's their choice I guess. Gender and biological sex is all the same in my opinion.
Let us see how google define it.

.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
"traditional concepts of gender"

So yeah, it's not the same as biological sex.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 07:38:43 AM
So being gay is a genetic defect then? If so, why aren't we trying to cure it? I'd be willing to donate money to fund research to find out more about it and find a cure for the genetic defect if that was the case.

Heavens, no. It's influenced by things like genetics but it is not negative.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AloneInTheMoonlight on April 30, 2017, 08:17:48 AM
Heavens, no. It's influenced by things like genetics but it is not negative.

But we were designed to be heterosexual, not homosexual. I think that it is negative, and it's negative affects are clearly evident if you look at society.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on April 30, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
It is not. It is just another form of gene expression.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 08:32:09 AM
But we were designed to be heterosexual, not homosexual. I think that it is negative, and it's negative affects are clearly evident if you look at society.

It happens in nature too, and animals don't care.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on April 30, 2017, 09:00:44 AM
But we were designed to be heterosexual, not homosexual. I think that it is negative, and it's negative affects are clearly evident if you look at society.
Give me one good example on negative effects of homosexuals that doesn't apply to heterosexuals RIGHT NOW.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 30, 2017, 09:39:32 AM
Give me one good example on negative effects of homosexuals that doesn't apply to heterosexuals RIGHT NOW.
The only thing is not being able to biologically reproduce with the partner, there isnt really a reason to cure it (hell, earth is actually overpopulated)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on April 30, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
The only thing is not being able to biologically reproduce with the partner, there isnt really a reason to cure it (hell, earth is actually overpopulated)

Earth isn't actually overpopulated, that's a myth. It's just that we can't seem to currently manage the resources perfectly. However it is possible to have 8 billion humans on this earth living fine.
(I don't agree with 'curing' homosexuality, I'm just saying)


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on April 30, 2017, 10:30:28 AM
The only thing is not being able to biologically reproduce with the partner, there isnt really a reason to cure it (hell, earth is actually overpopulated)
We have to remember that this also happens in heterosexual relationships. They can choose to not have children. A good example is a married YouTube couple, iHasCupquake and redb15. They are married, but they don't consider having children.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on April 30, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
We have to remember that this also happens in heterosexual relationships. They can choose to not have children. A good example is a married YouTube couple, iHasCupquake and redb15. They are married, but they don't consider having children.
I know?
I dont want any kids either


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on April 30, 2017, 07:13:43 PM
I know?
I dont want any kids either
Okay, but it's just to show other people


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: -PRoyale- on May 01, 2017, 01:56:46 AM
In the end there will be no more males or females because of:
1. Wars
2. Environmental Disaster
3. Water Pollution
4. Pandemic Diseases
5. Homosexuality or Assexuality

The 1 is the most important
The 5 the least.

Anyway studies have shown that homos are in a very little percentage .

Globally
Hetero : 68%
Homo : 29%
A or other kinds of sexuality: 3%


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on May 01, 2017, 02:36:13 AM
Homosexuals won't bea reason for human extinction. Homosexuality happens when a heterosexual couple is very fertile.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 01, 2017, 03:30:02 AM
I don't think homosexuality is too commonplace that it is problematic.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on May 01, 2017, 05:34:39 AM
In the end there will be no more males or females because of:
1. Wars
2. Environmental Disaster
3. Water Pollution
4. Pandemic Diseases
5. Homosexuality or Assexuality

The 1 is the most important
The 5 the least.

Anyway studies have shown that homos are in a very little percentage .

Globally
Hetero : 68%
Homo : 29%
A or other kinds of sexuality: 3%
If that 29% is the whole human population, then that's 2.03 BILLION homos.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 01, 2017, 05:39:35 AM
It's less than 29%, anyways.

The more common figure is around 11%.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on May 01, 2017, 07:10:25 AM
It's less than 29%, anyways.

The more common figure is around 11%.
That's 770M if that's the whole human population.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on May 03, 2017, 06:56:09 PM
That's 770M if that's the whole human population.

Still a minority, when compared to 8 billion humans in total :/

We have to remember that this also happens in heterosexual relationships. They can choose to not have children. A good example is a married YouTube couple, iHasCupquake and redb15. They are married, but they don't consider having children.

I find it hilarious that you brought up iHasCupquake


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on May 03, 2017, 06:59:16 PM
Still a minority, when compared to 8 billion humans in total :/

I find it hilarious that you brought up iHasCupquake
Yeah, I couldn't think of another reference XD

8 billion already? I thought we were only 7 billion...Even if, 770M is still a massive number.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Theo on May 03, 2017, 07:01:44 PM
About 7.5 billion


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 18, 2017, 07:29:31 AM
How the heck can you not identify as either of these
Hermaphrodite?
There are non-binary sexes/genders, so that's why different orientation labels were coined.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 08:09:40 AM
There are non-binary sexes/genders, so that's why different orientation labels were coined.
There are no "nonbinary" sexes or genders, sorry to tell you that


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Kamarov on May 18, 2017, 09:11:18 AM
Guess what? I just found out that yesterday is a day against homophobia, transphobia & biphobia


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 18, 2017, 09:12:28 AM
There are no "nonbinary" sexes or genders, sorry to tell you that
Non-binary just means that one doesn't 100% identify as their biological sex.  It can include intersex, agender, transgender, demigirl, genderfluid, butch, etc.  I'm obviously 100% female, but I'm just saying what other people might be.  If the only genders were male and female, we would only have four sexual orientations (Asexual, Heterosexual, Homosexual, and Bisexual).  Maybe a few others that don't relate to non-binary sexes/genders.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 09:55:17 AM
Non-binary just means that one doesn't 100% identify as their biological sex.  It can include intersex, agender, transgender, demigirl, genderfluid, butch, etc.  I'm obviously 100% female, but I'm just saying what other people might be.  If the only genders were male and female, we would only have four sexual orientations (Asexual, Heterosexual, Homosexual, and Bisexual).  Maybe a few others that don't relate to non-binary sexes/genders.
No
Based on your reproductive organs and chromosones, your sex is determined, so male or female
And gender is determined by the sex "you feel more comfortable with", so still only male or female

Agender, transgender, demigirl, genderfluid, none of that is real, nor it actually makes sense


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on May 18, 2017, 10:33:29 AM
And gender is determined by the sex "you feel more comfortable with", so still only male or female
There are people that don't feel comfortable being male or female, so your argument is invalid


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 10:43:10 AM
There are people that don't feel comfortable being male or female, so your argument is invalid
Then how they want to feel? Like an animal? That called mental illnes


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 18, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
Then how they want to feel? Like an animal? That called mental illnes

They don't can't to be a male or a female. They'd like to be simply no gender.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 11:03:54 AM
That would still mean there are two genders


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on May 18, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
No
Based on your reproductive organs and chromosones, your sex is determined, so male or female
And gender is determined by the sex "you feel more comfortable with", so still only male or female

Agender, transgender, demigirl, genderfluid, none of that is real, nor it actually makes sense
Yes, genders are only male or female. But depending on how much a person feels male or females, gender is fluid. You could be a transgender, agender, bigender etc. All these gender identities involve only being male or female.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 12:00:50 PM
Transgender simply means your gender isnt the same as your sex
Gender isnt fluid, id doesnt change with your mood or if you want to spy on ladies' bathrooms or win a female wrestling tournament
Bigender isnt a thing either, and agender is.. What exactly?
You dont need to feel like a woman with every cell to be woman by gender
If you have gender dysphoria, then you have different sex and gender, if not, then not


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on May 18, 2017, 12:10:06 PM
Transgender simply means your gender isnt the same as your sex
Gender isnt fluid, id doesnt change with your mood or if you want to spy on ladies' bathrooms or win a female wrestling tournament
Bigender isnt a thing either, and agender is.. What exactly?
You dont need to feel like a woman with every cell to be woman by gender
If you have gender dysphoria, then you have different sex and gender, if not, then not
1. Exactly.
2. If your gender changes when you want to spy on ladies' bathroom, that is called being a pervert.
3. They are.
4. I agree.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 12:19:29 PM
1. Exactly.
2. If your gender changes when you want to spy on ladies' bathroom, that is called being a pervert.
3. They are.
4. I agree.
What if i would identify as a female?
Checkmate
How can you feel like both genders? Or none


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 18, 2017, 01:30:17 PM
What if i would identify as a female?
Checkmate
How can you feel like both genders? Or none

Because you CAN. Some people do. It isn't your right to say they don't deserve to believe that.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 18, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
What if you are male, but have the interests and more of a female mindset?
Or even a female who acts like a male
It all comes down to gender dysphoria and if you actually believe you should be the opposite gender
Still doesnt create 1'000'000 genders


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on May 18, 2017, 02:50:20 PM
there are two genders
and only two genders


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: The Real Alien on May 18, 2017, 02:50:24 PM
There are only two genders


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on May 18, 2017, 02:50:50 PM
TBH, I believe that gender is a spectrum. Physical sex, however, is not.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 18, 2017, 03:06:22 PM
When you sign up for certain things on the Internet and you have to choose your gender.  There is a "Male" option, a "Female" option, and an "Other" option.  Why is that?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 18, 2017, 03:17:46 PM
I am very sorry then, please ignore me
Please don't feel bad... :(
I was just curious about that because a lot of people believe that the only genders are male and female while other people believe differently.
Again, I am 100% female, but I'm just basing my beliefs on how a lot of people idenify themselves (and the Internet).


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 18, 2017, 05:51:03 PM
There are only two genders

there are two genders
and only two genders

Factually incorrect, people can definitely feel as if they are not male or female. A gender is what one person identifies as. The reason things like stargender do not really exist is that the concept of a third gender is not "I feel like *insert random object*", but more like simply not identifying with anything.

You can search up stories of people like this. If they don't feel like a male or a female, then how is t possible for them to be one?

Physically, you can only be male or female (unless you have a birth defect).


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 18, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
Factually incorrect, people can definitely feel as if they are not male or female. A gender is what one person identifies as. The reason things like stargender do not really exist is that the concept of a third gender is not "I feel like *insert random object*", but more like simply not identifying with anything.

You can search up stories of people like this. If they don't feel like a male or a female, then how is t possible for them to be one?

Physically, you can only be male or female (unless you have a birth defect).
True.  While the terms usually go hand-in-hand, they are different.
The terms "sex" and "gender" are different.
The term "sex" has to do with biological/physical factors and the term "gender" has to do with how a person feels mentally.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on May 18, 2017, 10:59:11 PM
I'm just going to eat some popcorn while this debate is happening...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on May 20, 2017, 05:10:13 PM
there are two genders
and only two genders
That's surprising coming from you...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: sansaery on May 20, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
That's surprising coming from you...

How is it surprising? She's broadcasted this belief of hers


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: VampireGirl12 on May 20, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
There are only two genders
There are only two genders

guys pls there are only two genders according to what's in your pants you're either a boy or a girl there is no goys or birls


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on May 20, 2017, 05:17:40 PM
guys pls there are only two genders according to what's in your pants you're either a boy or a girl there is no goys or birls
lol this is the best post that was posted on this topic!
How is it surprising? She's broadcasted this belief of hers
because she's a major lgbt supporter...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on May 20, 2017, 05:50:26 PM
guys pls there are only two genders according to what's in your pants you're either a boy or a girl there is no goys or birls

Uh actually

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/birl
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/goy


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: VampireGirl12 on May 20, 2017, 05:59:09 PM
I meant gender wise but lol


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 20, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
guys pls there are only two genders according to what's in your pants you're either a boy or a girl there is no goys or birls

That's called "sex", not gender.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on May 20, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
That's called "sex", not gender.
...same difference...what gender is what your head is in?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 20, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
what gender is what your head is in?

Sorry I don't get what you mean?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chiral of Doom on May 20, 2017, 08:15:44 PM
gender and sex are synonymous

sexuality = the thing where people feel different about themselves


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MarkiplierFana! on May 20, 2017, 08:24:56 PM
There are only two genders
Actually, there are three: male, female and transgender.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on May 20, 2017, 08:28:39 PM
That is in no way how transgender works lmao


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 20, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Actually, there are three: male, female and transgender.
And hermaphrodite.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on May 20, 2017, 11:14:57 PM
And hermaphrodite.

No


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ixora on May 20, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
there are two genders
and only two genders
^^^^ This. Except that there is also a type of ambiguous gender which is exceptional.

I can understand some people can have problems with chromosomes or hormones, and this could even lead to so much similarities of both genders that you really can't tell if it's male or female. There is nothing wrong with that, because they are born that way and it's not their fault.

Except that case where you should go for what you feel like, in any other condition, you're a boy if you're mostly a boy and a girl if you're mostly a girl. And I mean appearance and behavior, not feeling.

"I have periods but I feel like a boy. I get boners but I feel like a girl." What is it even supposed to mean?

"Skirts, too girly." "I'm a boy and I want toto wear makeup." Uh you don't have to be traditionally masculine/feminine to be a man or a woman. Do whatever you feel like but remember you're still who you are.

It's a simple concept, I don't understand the point of making it far more complex and leading it to all those Tumblr genders, bullying and harassment, confusion and insecurities, depression, arguments, controversy, overall it's too cumbersome for the mind.

Obviously you don't have to agree on what I say, but I just gave my point. And no, I have no hate for transgender people, I'm always open to all nice people no matter who they are. I just find the concept useless which doesn't affect my feelings for those people. Had to say this before someone accuses me of hating.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on May 21, 2017, 03:15:44 AM
gender and sex are synonymous

sexuality = the thing where people feel different about themselves

They actually aren't the same, gender is what you feel like.

You can still physically be female without having a d'ex change tonne make, but still be male, like Caitlyn Jenner.

It's extremely offensive to refer to these people by their biological sex. I hope you like offending peopl.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on May 21, 2017, 05:00:08 AM
Umm

Sexuality is an attraction.

Not all gays act like girls
Not all lesbians act like boys.
And bisexual isn't a mix of those two LMAO

There are straight girls who act like boys and straight boys who act like girls.
I thought this was established universally a looooong time ago.

Gender identity is not synonymous with a person's sex. How is that concept so hard to apprehend..?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shrek on May 21, 2017, 05:16:12 AM
Comfort Gay


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 21, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
Actually, there are three: male, female and transgender.
Transgender isnt a gender lol


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 21, 2017, 09:48:41 AM
And hermaphrodite.
Hermaphrodite means you can reproduce on your own, doesnt it
What does that have to do with state of your mind?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on May 21, 2017, 10:05:22 AM
And hermaphrodite.
And Aphrodite.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: PeppermintLeaf on May 21, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
gender and sex are synonymous

sexuality = the thing where people feel different about themselves
no they aren't, and this concept is wrong

Sex refers to biological differences, internal and external sex organs.

Gender is about how one identifies themselves. It is what you internally feel you are.

they are not the same thing


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Resolutely on May 21, 2017, 12:19:37 PM
Sex is objective, gender is subjective.

Clearly opposites. Easy to confuse.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Bang on May 21, 2017, 02:51:53 PM
Imo, there is Male and Female.

Transgender can be considered, but If someone is female, but classifies themselves as male, then I feel its more appropriate to just say male, rather then transgender.



Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on May 21, 2017, 09:36:49 PM
⁉❓Why❓⁉ do people have to➖➗➕✖ overcomplicate ✖➕➗➖ it with so many genders? FFS, there is only one ✅✔true✔✅ gender, and that gender is Jesus.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: kingdom of jerland on May 22, 2017, 05:38:43 AM
⁉❓Why❓⁉ do people have to➖➗➕✖ overcomplicate ✖➕➗➖ it with so many genders? FFS, there is only one ✅✔true✔✅ gender, and that gender is Jesus.
are u jesus?!  :o


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 22, 2017, 07:06:13 AM
Imo, there is Male and Female.

Transgender can be considered, but If someone is female, but classifies themselves as male, then I feel its more appropriate to just say male, rather then transgender.


If you consider yourself male, then youre male by gender
Transgender isnt a gender, just like cisgender isnt a gender


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on May 22, 2017, 08:16:37 AM
They are gender identities.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 22, 2017, 03:51:51 PM
Sex is objective, gender is subjective.

Clearly opposites. Easy to confuse.
Very true.
⁉❓Why❓⁉ do people have to➖➗➕✖ overcomplicate ✖➕➗➖ it with so many genders? FFS, there is only one ✅✔true✔✅ gender, and that gender is Jesus.
Jesus isn't a gender. XD


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: MariaYuki on May 22, 2017, 04:08:27 PM
Wait I have a question.
If someone is gender fluid, which locker room do they go to?
???


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 22, 2017, 04:45:34 PM
Wait I have a question.
If someone is gender fluid, which locker room do they go to?
???
I guess they go to the girls' when they feel like a girl and go to the boys' when they feel like a boy?  If the place has gender-neutral locker rooms/restrooms, then they probably use those.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Chanderule on May 23, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
I guess they go to the girls' when they feel like a girl and go to the boys' when they feel like a boy?  If the place has gender-neutral locker rooms/restrooms, then they probably use those.
Are you kidding me
So any perv can just identify as a girl and go there?
Genius!


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Faiz on May 23, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
tbh there can be gay pervs or lesbian pervs as well


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Shawna on May 23, 2017, 12:34:12 PM
Are you kidding me
So any perv can just identify as a girl and go there?
Genius!
Your just going to have to talk to a genderfluid person about that one.
There are also certain places with gender-neutral restrooms.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: noname on May 23, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
I'm straight as a line
A mildly non-Euclidean one


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Park Jinyoung on May 23, 2017, 07:24:50 PM
Every female bathroom in my school has a male's urinal for some reason...


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: AskJoe on September 20, 2017, 05:23:07 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/politics/kfile-jeff-mateer-lgbt-remarks/index.html


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on September 20, 2017, 05:30:05 PM
Why did you wake up this topic?


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Lil Nas Flex on September 20, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
Why did you wake up this topic?
He did so to post that link


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Ianiant on September 20, 2017, 05:31:19 PM
This topic has caused nothing but fights and broken relationships.


Title: Re: LGBTQ
Post by: Abu on September 20, 2017, 06:19:08 PM
Conversion therapy on minors should be banned, no matter what.

I disagree (and factually, so does every single report on it ever) that it even works at all, but if a consenting adult wishes to undergo it that is their choice.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on January 26, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
Time to bring this back.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 26, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
As for the poll, I am neither for or against. I do not promote homosexuality or agree with it due to my religious beliefs but if you want to practise homosexuality, I will not ridicule you, discriminate you or ignore you ever I will treat you the same as any other person.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on January 26, 2018, 01:31:34 PM
As for the poll, I am neither for or against. I do not promote homosexuality or agree with it due to my religious beliefs but if you want to practise homosexuality, I will not ridicule you, discriminate you or ignore you ever I will treat you the same as any other person.
I will change the wording to remove "community", since not supporting it is against it, but without being rude to the community.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 26, 2018, 01:33:37 PM
I suppose that is better. I am not against homosexual people, I am against homosexual practises. Thanks :)


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on January 26, 2018, 03:24:09 PM
I support lgbt+ :3


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Theo on January 26, 2018, 06:27:49 PM
I support it (as long as it isn't straight shaming)


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on January 26, 2018, 09:06:53 PM
I support it (as long as it isn't straight shaming)
Straight shaming is as bad as lgbt shaming, nobody should be shamed for their sexuality


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Zuki-Chan on January 26, 2018, 09:15:23 PM
I support lgbt+ :3


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: -PRoyale- on January 27, 2018, 03:58:52 AM
I don't


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: WatermelonSlice on January 27, 2018, 04:08:34 AM
I'm no part of the LGBT2Q+ or anything but I do support it.

And I still dont know why homophobic people exist. They're probably against it because of religion but you don't have to hate them because of that. They should still respect them even though they believe it's wrong


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on February 01, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
I'm no part of the LGBT2Q+ or anything but I do support it.

And I still dont know why homophobic people exist. They're probably against it because of religion but you don't have to hate them because of that. They should still respect them even though they believe it's wrong
Conservatism is objectively WRONG.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Theo on February 01, 2018, 04:00:03 PM
While I disagree with it I don't think a belief held by many can be considered objectively wrong...


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on February 01, 2018, 04:06:02 PM
While I disagree with it I don't think a belief held by many can be considered objectively wrong...
No, telling people how to live their lives solely because of feelings and ternary statements revolving around a holy book are wrong.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on February 01, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
Also, the first post now has a guidebook.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: rainbowcherry on February 01, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
2 = 2-Spirit (a North American First Nations term for people who have 'spirits' of both genders)

I like that. The Indians were wise people.  :)


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on February 01, 2018, 05:03:08 PM
2 = 2-Spirit (a North American First Nations term for people who have 'spirits' of both genders)

I like that. The Indians were wise people.  :)
Indeed. It is a very interesting concept and shows how egalitarian their societies were.

Note: I know with 100% certainty you did not mean any racism, but the term "Indian" is unpreferred to First Nations, Native Americans or Aboriginal Americans.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: rainbowcherry on February 01, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
Indeed. It is a very interesting concept and shows how egalitarian their societies were.

Note: I know with 100% certainty you did not mean any racism, but the term "Indian" is unpreferred to First Nations, Native Americans or Aboriginal Americans.
Ah. Oops.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on June 29, 2018, 07:47:55 PM
Deuteronomy 32:4

The Rock, perfect is his activity,
For all his ways are justice.
A God of faithfulness who is never unjust;
Righteous and upright is he.

Wow I love Dwayne Johnson


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Rossome on June 30, 2018, 04:26:53 AM
Where is the T for Toucansexual?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Rias on June 30, 2018, 05:27:39 AM
I used to be LGBTQ until I defect due to series of twisted fates; but I still support it.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Lil Nas Flex on June 30, 2018, 05:29:03 AM
I'm gay...
For that despacito 2 boiiiiis


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: InvisibleKid on June 30, 2018, 06:35:20 AM
I'm gay...
For that despacito 2 boiiiiis
Same tho


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on June 30, 2018, 07:33:49 AM
Where is the T for Toucansexual?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on June 30, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Toucans are cute

(http://www.animalspot.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Toco-Toucan-Pictures.jpg)


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: WatermelonSlice on June 30, 2018, 03:30:33 PM
Toucans are cute, but I'm not sexually attracted to them


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on June 30, 2018, 03:30:40 PM
Toucans are cute, but I'm not sexually attracted to them


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Dorothea on June 30, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
Toucans are cute, but I'm not sexually attracted to them
i'm-
are you joking?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: WatermelonSlice on June 30, 2018, 07:08:16 PM
No, why'd you think I am?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Lil Nas Flex on June 30, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
i'm-
are you joking?
I'm confused by this. Are you trying to say toucans are not cute or are you saying toucans are hot? ???


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 30, 2018, 10:45:05 PM
I’m not sure if Regina is confused why we’re still talking about “toucansexual”, if she doesn’t find them cute, or if she finds them hot…

#Beastially


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Dorothea on July 01, 2018, 06:43:51 AM
No, why'd you think I am?
I meant about the "sexually attracted" part. Why would you need to indicate that? It's pretty obvious you aren't, unless you're into bestiality.
I'm confused by this. Are you trying to say toucans are not cute or are you saying toucans are hot? ???
I’m not sure if Regina is confused why we’re still talking about “toucansexual”, if she doesn’t find them cute, or if she finds them hot…

#Beastially
"I'm" is typically a reaction I use to something confusing or shocking. I'm not attracted to toucans don't worry.  XD


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: WatermelonSlice on July 01, 2018, 07:38:35 AM
I meant about the "sexually attracted" part. Why would you need to indicate that? It's pretty obvious you aren't, unless you're into bestiality.

I'm replying to this vvv
Where is the T for Toucansexual?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Dorothea on July 01, 2018, 09:09:52 AM
I'm replying to this vvv
That makes sense now.  ^^;

Although, I don't know what Rossome was going for with toucansexual?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on July 01, 2018, 09:10:34 AM
Rossome doesn't support the LGBTQ+ community, so he is making fun of it


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Dorothea on July 01, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
Rossome doesn't support the LGBTQ+ community, so he is making fun of it
Ugh, I'm tired of people making fun of the community by talking about "attack helicopters" and just making up sexualities as a joke. :/


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 01, 2018, 10:27:42 AM
Ugh, I'm tired of people making fun of the community by talking about "attack helicopters" and just making up sexualities as a joke. :/
Yes, Rossome should not have done that. And especially not in a way that isn't even funny. Like, if you are gonna be a homophobe, at least be original.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 01, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
Just noticed the poll.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Kirby on July 01, 2018, 12:42:59 PM
i really wonder if the homophobics have ever thought that being gay is like being left handed
you don't choose it, they are born like that, whether you or the rest of the world like it or not.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Theo on July 01, 2018, 12:58:18 PM
Mostly it's religious, if their religion condemns left handed people they would probably blindly follow it


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 01, 2018, 01:05:30 PM
Religious people can be very hypocritical, the Bible verse that supposedly is against homosexuality is very vague and can have many meanings while the Bible clearly states that it is against divorce, but do religious people threaten to kill, harass or just "not support" divorce? I don't think so

Note: I am saying this as a devout Christian who is annoyed with the hate that other Christians seem to create :( God wants us to love others, not hate.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on July 01, 2018, 01:07:07 PM
Didn't that happen though? Weren't left-handed people at one point forced to write with their right hands because it was considered sinful to be left-handed

Or was this just a book I read

Religious people can be very hypocritical, the Bible verse that supposedly is against homosexuality is very vague and can have many meanings while the Bible clearly states that it is against divorce, but do religious people threaten to kill, harass or just "not support" divorce? I don't think so

Note: I am saying this as a devout Christian who is annoyed with the hate that other Christians seem to create :( God wants us to love others, not hate.

And initially before the translation it wasn't 'man shall not lay with man etc etc', it was 'man shall not lay with BOY etc etc', so technically that verse is against pedophilia, not homosexuality


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 01, 2018, 01:23:45 PM
Yes there used to be schools and such that were "right hand only"


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: AskJoe on July 01, 2018, 02:03:08 PM
Religious people can be very hypocritical, the Bible verse that supposedly is against homosexuality is very vague and can have many meanings while the Bible clearly states that it is against divorce, but do religious people threaten to kill, harass or just "not support" divorce? I don't think so
The Bible is clearly against homosexuality. There are many verses which condemn homosexuality both in the new and old testaments, not just Leviticus 20:13. The first Bible verse which mentions homosexuality, just two chapters before the most famous one makes it quite clear: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." - Leviticus 18:22


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 01, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
Religious people can be very hypocritical, the Bible verse that supposedly is against homosexuality is very vague and can have many meanings while the Bible clearly states that it is against divorce, but do religious people threaten to kill, harass or just "not support" divorce? I don't think so

Note: I am saying this as a devout Christian who is annoyed with the hate that other Christians seem to create :( God wants us to love others, not hate.
It is true, while people may choose sinful acts we must still promote love and kindness! I will go as far as to say that despite most religious texts permitting punishments for most such acts I personally disagree with this and believe that even if someone sins they should be always given second chances!


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 01, 2018, 11:35:08 PM
I fail to see homosexuality as a sin. Sorry.

Also Muslim condemnation fo homosexuality is very strange, because apart from the story of Soddom there is no mention of homosexuality in Islam, and traditionally homosexuality has existed and not shunned in the Islamic society pre-1900s. It's just like Muslims jumped on the bandwagon with Christians hating gays.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 02, 2018, 05:23:49 AM
I fail to see homosexuality as a sin. Sorry.

Also Muslim condemnation fo homosexuality is very strange, because apart from the story of Soddom there is no mention of homosexuality in Islam, and traditionally homosexuality has existed and not shunned in the Islamic society pre-1900s. It's just like Muslims jumped on the bandwagon with Christians hating gays.
It is because previously most Muslims would choose kindness over punishment. The current level of punishment for sexual harassment, for example, would be chopping off the private parts of any man who commits this sin. This was not what happened during the Islamic golden age or the Ottoman Empire, however. As well, people of other religions and even atheists were allowed to live in harmony with Muslims. Again, now we see many Muslim nations who persecute other beliefs.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 02, 2018, 05:29:40 AM
i really wonder if the homophobics have ever thought that being gay is like being left handed
you don't choose it, they are born like that, whether you or the rest of the world like it or not.
Actually nobody is born with a sexuality in the first place.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 02, 2018, 11:08:31 AM
Actually nobody is born with a sexuality in the first place.
This concept interests me but I do not believe that I understand what you mean. What do you?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 02, 2018, 11:32:59 AM
I guess it develops over time?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on July 02, 2018, 11:40:42 AM
For me it developed over time, and my middle school was very LGBT as opposed to my elementary school which was super straightwashed, so that probably helped me accept myself as well, as opposed to the straightwashed af middle schools I could have gone to/my old middle school


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 02, 2018, 02:09:09 PM
This concept interests me but I do not believe that I understand what you mean. What do you?
Sexuality isn't completely genetic.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 02, 2018, 05:06:52 PM
Sexuality isn't completely genetic.
This is true. You do have a degree of choice.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 02, 2018, 06:20:10 PM
There are also psycho-socio-environmetal factors.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Kirby on July 03, 2018, 03:35:40 AM
Actually nobody is born with a sexuality in the first place.
i meant its up to the person's genes not a personal choice
this article was posted on december and talks more about it.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2155810-what-do-the-new-gay-genes-tell-us-about-sexual-orientation/


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 03, 2018, 04:50:15 AM
I agree it's not really a choice either, but genetics isn't the only factor that influences sexuality.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 04, 2018, 06:10:59 PM
The Bible is clearly against homosexuality. There are many verses which condemn homosexuality both in the new and old testaments, not just Leviticus 20:13. The first Bible verse which mentions homosexuality, just two chapters before the most famous one makes it quite clear: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." - Leviticus 18:22
A. The verses and chapters before it in Leviticus are specifically talking about behaviors the Caananites and Egyptians performed during Pagan temple rituals, and so taking the verse in context, it is referring to inappropriate homosexual practices in the temple, not homosexuality in general.

B. The Jewish law in Leviticus was meant for the Israelites a long time ago, and had many other laws like prohibiting eating certain foods. Most of these laws do not apply today, yet atheists so often take them out of context.

If you wish to make an effective argument in the future, it is best not to quote Leviticus or many of the other Old Testament books, as they are meant to be historical accounts, not guidebooks for modern Christians.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 04, 2018, 06:13:54 PM
As well as that, John 13:34-35 says:

 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

God wants Christians to love everyone regardless of their race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Any Christian that claims their religion commands them to be homophobic or hateful towards gay people is sorely mistaken in their actions.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 04, 2018, 06:24:02 PM
It is true the same goes for Muslims. Sinners must be loved.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 04, 2018, 07:29:44 PM
A. The verses and chapters before it in Leviticus are specifically talking about behaviors the Caananites and Egyptians performed during Pagan temple rituals, and so taking the verse in context, it is referring to homosexual bleep in the temple, not homosexuality in general.

B. The Jewish law in Leviticus was meant for the Israelites a long time ago, and had many other laws like prohibiting eating certain foods. Most of these laws do not apply today, yet atheists so often take them out of context.

If you wish to make an effective argument in the future, it is best not to quote Leviticus or many of the other Old Testament books, as they are meant to be historical accounts, not guidebooks for modern Christians.
THANK YOU


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 05, 2018, 05:53:45 AM
It is true the same goes for Muslims. Sinners must be loved.
Sinners?!


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 06:00:01 AM
Sinners?!
All sinners should be loved, yes. It would go against many verses of God's word if you chose to never be loving to those who have committed sins such as thievery.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 05, 2018, 07:31:16 AM
No, are you implying that gays are sinners?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 05, 2018, 10:45:25 AM
All sinners should be loved, yes. It would go against many verses of God's word if you chose to never be loving to those who have committed sins such as thievery.
I am not going to love a murderer


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 11:00:07 AM
No, are you implying that gays are sinners?
I am. I support some things that the Quran clearly says is sin. Will people be judged differently in modern times? I do not know the answer. But the Quran definitely says that homosexuality is a sin. Well, more specifically, sexual relations between two people of the same sex. I do not think platonic or only romantic relationships are really considered sinful. Despite this I will still fight for the right for people to freely love who they want.

I am not going to love a murderer

I am. You can deny it all you want and continue to support horrible punishments for them but Norway is humane to their murderers and gives them second chances via rehabilitation. If released they have an extraordinarily low rate of returning to prisons. It is 20% (this is for all criminals who leave jail) compared to 76.6% in the U.S.A.

Punishment or love and rehabilitation? I think the answer is clear.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12

You can also note that when Norway gave a similar rehabilitative sentence to a mass murder there was a lot of outrage. Except most of it come from the USA and most people in Norway were not angry. The attitude of the general American to criminals must change.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Ianiant on July 05, 2018, 11:11:56 AM
Are you SERIOUSLY supporting loving MURDERERS?!!! >:D


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 05, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
sorry I respect your opinion and I can understand where you are coming from (about the murderers) but having had my friend shot dead a year ago, I don't have the same view as you.

also, the bible says that everyone is born a sinner
so I am a theoretically a sinner
you are too


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 05, 2018, 11:15:09 AM
I am. I support some things that the Quran clearly says is sin. Will people be judged differently in modern times? I do not know the answer. But the Quran definitely says that homosexuality is a sin. Well, more specifically, sexual relations between two people of the same sex. I do not think platonic or only romantic relationships are really considered sinful. Despite this I will still fight for the right for people to freely love who they want.
No I was just confused as you were saying it was not a sin in the past.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 05, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
also, the bible says that everyone is born a sinner
so I am a theoretically a sinner
you are too

Well yeah, you've done something bad in your life before and so has prem, everyone has


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 11:22:09 AM
No I was just confused as you were saying it was not a sin in the past.
If I ever said that sodomy is not a sin then I was incorrect. I still stand by my point of non-sexual gay relationships not being a sin though. Whether I am right or wrong is not up to me.

sorry I respect your opinion and I can understand where you are coming from (about the murderers) but having had my friend shot dead a year ago, I don't have the same view as you.

also, the bible says that everyone is born a sinner
so I am a theoretically a sinner
you are too

Everyone sins...the point is not to continue though. If you are religious, anyways.

I have had quite a few family members murdered or held at gunpoint as well so we can respectfully agree to disagree here.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
Well yeah, you've done something bad in your life before and so has prem, everyone has
Correct. The prophets (Jesus, Noah, and Muhammad peace be upon him) have all committed sins themselves. There is a well-attested story of Muhammad peace be upon him yelling at a young girl when he was in a bad mood. He felt horrified after and repented, since he was still human, he still sinned.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 05, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
There are some people who don't care about their crimes. Love is ineffective towards these people.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
There are some people who don't care about their crimes. Love is ineffective towards these people.
They can stay in prison of course. One aspect of restorative justice (this system) is that most prisoners need psychological examinations before leaving. They're very advanced and greatly reduce the chance of people leaving while not having learned anything. If someone still has intentions of murdering, for example; they'll stay.

Most people who show no remorse for their actions will end up in mental institutions anyways. I believe that those are for life.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 05, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Irrelevant.

Do we still love sinners who show no remorse for their sins?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 05, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
Yes because there's always a reason behind why they don't show remorse. Even the most mentally ill people deserve love


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 05, 2018, 01:51:37 PM
Yes because there's always a reason behind why they don't show remorse. Even the most mentally ill people deserve love
Naive.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
Irrelevant.

Do we still love sinners who show no remorse for their sins?
I do, as they will be dealt with on the Day of Judgement. The Quran disagreed with this though, and prescribed punishments for sinners who show no remorse (not mentally ill people though, they are exempted). You are correct that I am too naïve. However the previous argument was absolutely not irrelevant.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 05, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
Yes because there's always a reason behind why they don't show remorse. Even the most mentally ill people deserve love
I strongly disagree and I am completely st a loss of words but I will just let you have your opinion with Prem and sit back.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on July 05, 2018, 03:13:08 PM
Naive.

very.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: The color of mood is blue on July 05, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
Don't worry, overtime I'll be less naive. But right now just try to ignore my bad opinions XD


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 05, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
Don't worry, overtime I'll be less naive. But right now just try to ignore my bad opinions XD
We can get hardened or we won't. We will see. As long as you can form opinions rooted in logic, then we  are on the right track.

For example, if you genuinely think that all murderers have a bit of good inside of them...then yes, that is overly naive. Nothing there to help your point. Some are cold-blooded and won't change. I know that many can be changed though if treated humanely.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 05, 2018, 04:26:34 PM
It's irrelevant because it doesn't connect to the point of all sinners deserving of love. But, whatevz.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: AskJoe on July 05, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
A. The verses and chapters before it in Leviticus are specifically talking about behaviors the Caananites and Egyptians performed during Pagan temple rituals, and so taking the verse in context, it is referring to inappropriate homosexual practices in the temple, not homosexuality in general.
B. The Jewish law in Leviticus was meant for the Israelites a long time ago, and had many other laws like prohibiting eating certain foods. Most of these laws do not apply today, yet atheists so often take them out of context.
I know the context of the given quotes from Leviticus, and they haven't been taken out of context. I've read Leviticus, in fact I've read the entire Bible.
If you wish to make an effective argument in the future, it is best not to quote Leviticus or many of the other Old Testament books, as they are meant to be historical accounts, not guidebooks for modern Christians.
In Matthew Jesus clearly says otherwise:
"“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." - Matthew 5: 17 - 18
Hence both the laws of the Old and New testaments apply.
God wants Christians to love everyone regardless of their race, religion, or sexual orientation.
There are plenty of verses which preach hate rather than love. Here are a few, of countless, examples of them. All from the New Testament.
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14: 26
"As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!" - Galatians 1: 9
"Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work." - 2 John 1: 9 - 11
"In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error." - Romans 1: 27


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Faiz on July 05, 2018, 11:05:17 PM
Correct. The prophets (Jesus, Noah, and Muhammad peace be upon him) have all committed sins themselves. There is a well-attested story of Muhammad peace be upon him yelling at a young girl when he was in a bad mood. He felt horrified after and repented, since he was still human, he still sinned.
I don't claim to be very religious or be well versed in theology, but I am pretty surr that the prophets cannot commit a sin.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 06, 2018, 03:55:01 AM
I don't claim to be very religious or be well versed in theology, but I am pretty surr that the prophets cannot commit a sin.
They cannot commit major ones, for that would be a betrayal to their word. Sometimes it is accounted that they would commit more minor sins; letting your temper go or overeating, for example.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 06, 2018, 11:25:03 AM
I don't claim to be very religious or be well versed in theology, but I am pretty surr that the prophets cannot commit a sin.
In the bible, Jesus could not sin because he was God's son, but the other prophets such as Isaiah and Jonah could indeed sin, as they were humans like you and me.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 07, 2018, 06:58:33 PM
There are plenty of verses which preach hate rather than love. Here are a few, of countless, examples of them. All from the New Testament.

Is it socially acceptable for someone to label all Muslims as jihadists because they misinterpreted the Qur'an?

No, of course not.

Then why is it socially acceptable for you to label all Christians as homophobes because you misinterpret the Bible?

That's like me calling all atheists bad people because they have no higher moral guide.

Instead of telling people of a differing religion what they believe, how about you spread kindness and positivity?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 07, 2018, 08:02:46 PM
That lack of argument ^

But whatever

(Sorry I dislike it when people claim something but don't take the time to find and present proper evidence supporting their claim.)


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: AskJoe on July 07, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
Then why is it socially acceptable for you to label all Christians as homophobes because you misinterpret the Bible?
Where exactly did I say all Christians were homophobes?


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 08, 2018, 10:44:23 AM
Where exactly did I say all Christians were homophobes?
You did not say that, but you said that the Bible condemns homosexuality and preaches hate, which implies that people who follow the bible are homophobes.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 08, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
You did not say that, but you said that the Bible condemns homosexuality and preaches hate, which implies that people who follow the bible are homophobes.
The statement implies it, not that he implied it. :/


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 08, 2018, 03:04:16 PM
The statement implies it, not that he implied it. :/
But he wrote the statement...



Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 09, 2018, 06:01:25 AM
But he wrote the statement...


That doesn't mean that he implied it? You made an assumption.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Bandero on July 09, 2018, 11:11:56 AM
That doesn't mean that he implied it? You made an assumption.
If he didn't imply it, then what is his goal in arguing?

He is giving examples of bible verses that he believes condemn homosexuality, to prove a point that the Bible is homophobic


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Gato on July 09, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
The Bible is kinda homophobic... And the Bible is supossed to be followed or taken as a guide for the christian community so in a sense the christians that follow the bible 100% are homophobic.
However, that doesn't include all the community.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Resolutely on July 09, 2018, 12:06:05 PM
If he didn't imply it, then what is his goal in arguing?

He is giving examples of bible verses that he believes condemn homosexuality, to prove a point that the Bible is homophobic
Exactly, but that doesn't mean he implied that all Christians are homophobes. The fact that the Bible is homophobic, which he pointed out, did.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Dorothea on July 14, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
Did y'all just turn this topic into a debate about Christianity. :/

Like, no offense, but I really think that was kinda stupid
 Why focus on the hate of a group, when we can just preach acceptance and tolerance ourselves in this topic. There are people out there who do not accept LGBTQ+ people even on this forum. Instead of fighting we should be coming together.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on July 14, 2018, 10:25:32 AM
Did y'all just turn this topic into a debate about Christianity. :/

Like, no offense, but I really think that was kinda stupid
 Why focus on the hate of a group, when we can just preach acceptance and tolerance ourselves in this topic. There are people out there who do not accept LGBTQ+ people even on this forum. Instead of fighting we should be coming together.
Christians are loving people and possibly the single biggest force of good on this planet.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: pastelFailure on August 18, 2018, 02:52:45 PM
I just realized something...
The majority of society doesn't acknowledge a bi person dating a person of the opposite gender. If that doesn't make sense, think of it this way;
Suzy is a bisexual woman, meaning that she is attracted to both males and females. Suzy dates Noah, a person of the opposite sex of Suzy. Suzy is bisexual, and is dating a man. Society doesn't really recognize this. Bisexuality means that you're attracted to both sexes, so a woman can date a man, meaning that she's in a straight relationship. It's a weird stereotype that most (if not, all) bi people have to date someone of the same gender.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: Abu on August 18, 2018, 02:54:50 PM
I just realized something...
The majority of society doesn't acknowledge a bi person dating a person of the opposite gender. If that doesn't make sense, think of it this way;
Suzy is a bisexual woman, meaning that she is attracted to both males and females. Suzy dates Noah, a person of the opposite sex of Suzy. Suzy is bisexual, and is dating a man. Society doesn't really recognize this. Bisexuality means that you're attracted to both sexes, so a woman can date a man, meaning that she's in a straight relationship. It's a weird stereotype that most (if not, all) bi people have to date someone of the same gender.
It's true. I have read a lot of experiences like this (of course, it was on Buzzfeed, but they were still real experienced).

It's even worse when it's members of the LGBT2Q+ community doing it, saying that they are "betraying" the community.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on August 18, 2018, 03:44:52 PM
I just realized something...
The majority of society doesn't acknowledge a bi person dating a person of the opposite gender. If that doesn't make sense, think of it this way;
Suzy is a bisexual woman, meaning that she is attracted to both males and females. Suzy dates Noah, a person of the opposite sex of Suzy. Suzy is bisexual, and is dating a man. Society doesn't really recognize this. Bisexuality means that you're attracted to both sexes, so a woman can date a man, meaning that she's in a straight relationship. It's a weird stereotype that most (if not, all) bi people have to date someone of the same gender.

Yeah it's pretty awful that people think that way :(


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on June 15, 2019, 10:59:31 PM
I am not that monster you think I am. When you realise that, it will be too late
Now you'll ask me what sense does that make?
I' ll answer
I never said the opposite but you can't forbid me to discuss about things I am not
Yes, I am not gay, yes, I am straight
I am proud of it
Yes, do you hear me?, I am proud
Now that you know that, may I discuss about everything? Freely?
On the other hand I won't ask for your permission to discuss about something
I talked.


Cisgender.
This is your term for me.
Your stereotype, your aggression
When you have been called it all
bleep queer whatever.

Well now i speak

I am not gay.
I am not bi.
I am not a man.
Or unsure.
I am not your words.
I am not “cisgender”.

I am a woman.
I love a man.
But that doesnt matter.
Because my name is Olivia.


Title: Re: LGBT2Q+
Post by: sansaery on June 15, 2019, 11:07:03 PM
woah the poll changed