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Title: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on May 27, 2017, 08:16:48 PM
Nickito decided to hand the rights to this poll over to me, so here we go.

Welcome to the official Bidding Poll Topic! This is where new TWG bids are decided by poll.

Bidding is currently closed. It will open at the end of TWG CIX: The Penitentiary, at which point, anyone can submit exactly one bid via PM to me, to be placed in the bidding pool. Upon the end of TWG CX: Kainu Mosir, bidding will close again, and every submitted bid will be revealed (anonymously), and subsequently polled for two days (with a new poll starting every day, so there's always two games being polled at any one time). Games which are approved by more than 50% of voters will pass, and will be numbered as official TWGs based on the percentage of Yes votes they received (though this order can be changed to fit the schedules of the hosts). One bid can be submitted per person per cycle.

  • TWG LXVI: The Perilous Podium (Host: KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22305.0)
  • TWG LXVII: Survivor (Host: Nickito) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22336.0)
  • TWG LXVIII: Not Quite A Quiet Town (Host: The Real Alien) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22385.0)
  • TWG LXIX: Blackout (Host: Leia) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22469.0)
  • TWG LXX: Inception of Perception (Host: KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22555.0)
  • TWG LXXI: Lyka's Time (Host: Shendelzare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22614.0)
  • TWG LXXII: Killing Time (Host: The Real Alien) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22714.0)
  • TWG LXXIII: Bomb Scare (Host: svefn-g-englar) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22783.0)
  • TWG LXXIV: Classic Part 2 (Host: Nickito, Bid by Leia) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22888.0)
  • TWG LXXV: A Rift in Time (Host: KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22965.0)
  • TWG LXXVI: Distant Lands (Host: Prem) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22921.0)
  • TWG LXXVII: Death at Dawn (Host: Hamilton) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23125.0)
  • TWG LXXVIII: Rock Frontier (Host: Nickito, bid by Shendelzare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23204.0)
  • TWG LXXIX: Penalties (Host: The Real Alien) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23247.0)
  • TWG LXXX: Superstitious (Host: svefn-g-englar) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23313.0)
  • TWG LXXXI: The Room Where It Happens (Host: Penguin022) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23435.0)
  • TWG LXXXII: Shifting Tides (Host: Prem) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23787.0)
  • TWG LXXXIII: Another Party of Death (Host: Hamilton) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24212.0)
  • TWG LXXXIV: Magicus Extremos (Host: Kirby) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24396.0)
  • TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Host: Flare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24526.0)
  • TWG LXXXVI: Working Abilities (Host: KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24630.0)
  • TWG LXXXVII: Catchphrases (Host: Eliza Mariposa/KitKatastrophic, bid by Nickito) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25102.0)
  • TWG LXXXVIII: Perfection (Host: Nickito, bid by !!Vinny927) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25299.0)
  • TWG LXXXIX: The Demon Within (Host: Shendelzare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25409.0)
  • TWG XC: Return of the Circus (Host: Leia) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35290.0)
  • TWG XCI: The Sun Temple (Host: Archi) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35465.0)
  • TWG XCII: Werewolves in SPACE! (Host: Kowhai) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35496.0)
  • TWG XCIII: Pathological Lying (Host: KitKatastrophic/Leia, bid by KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35583.0)
  • TWG XCIV: Morality (Host: Nickito, bid by Prem) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35653.0)
  • TWG XCV: Revolution (Host: Flare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35715.0)
  • TWG XCVI: Flipline (Host: Majo_Ellen) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35819.0)
  • TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum (Host: Surgekeeper, bid by Shendelzare) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35972.0)
  • TWG XCVIII: Locked and Loaded (Host: Leia/Raven, bid by Leia) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=36048.0)
  • TWG XCIX: Faraway City (Host: Prem, bid by Archi) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=38373.0)
  • TWG C: Theory of Everything (Host: KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=38937.0)
  • TWG CI: Foreign Affairs (Host: Bandero) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39125.0)
  • TWG CII: Reversal of Fortune (Host: Kowhai/KitKatastrophic, bid by Kowhai) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39379.0)
  • TWG CIII: A Normal Day Outside (Host: Niko~) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40148.0)
  • TWG CIV: Lost Connection (Host: HG/Kirby, bid by Leia) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40293.0)
  • TWG CV: The Sea-Sun of Visitations (Host: KitKatastrophic/Kowhai, bid by KitKatastrophic) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40390.0)
  • TWG CVI: Dostoevsky's Exile (Host: Prem) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40229.0)
  • TWG CVII: Age of Mythology (Host: Kowhai)
  • TWG CVIII: Return to the Courtroom (Host: Bandero)
  • TWG CIX: The Penitentiary (Host: KitKatastrophic)
  • TWG CX: Kainu Mosir (Host: Prem)
  • TWG CXI: An Abnormal Evening Inside (Host: Blast Burn)
  • TWG CXII: Wait For It (Host: Hamilton)

Bold = Upcoming games


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 27, 2017, 08:18:20 PM
Dragon's Curse (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1700760#msg1700760)
The Perilous Podium (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1701998#msg1701998)
Survivor (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1702950#msg1702950)
Not Quite a Quiet Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1703638#msg1703638)
Invasion of the Ultra Beasts (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1704061#msg1704061)
Role Swap (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1704697#msg1704697)
The Master Sword (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1705354#msg1705354)
The Chessmaster (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1706799#msg1706799)
Role Swap II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1707165#msg1707165)
Dragon's Curse II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1707918#msg1707918)
Invasion of the Ultra Beasts II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1709105#msg1709105)
Night and Day? (Blackout) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1709824#msg1709824)
The Master Sword II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1710539#msg1710539)
Inception of Perception (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1711146#msg1711146)
The Chessmaster II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1711711#msg1711711)
Dragon's Curse III (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1712747#msg1712747)
Bomb Scare (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1713213#msg1713213)
Captain's Ship (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1713705#msg1713705)
The Deathlock Castle (Lyka's Time) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1714343#msg1714343)
Cleansing and Peacefulness (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1714848#msg1714848)
Killing Time (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1715209#msg1715209)
No Gun Control (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1715634#msg1715634)
Guys, where are we? (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1716057#msg1716057)
Old-TimeyTeams (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1716554#msg1716554)
Captain's Ship II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1717196#msg1717196)
The Four Presents (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1718522#msg1718522)
TWG Bid (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1720247#msg1720247)
Classic Part 2 (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1721530#msg1721530)
Distant Lands (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1722485#msg1722485)
Make TWG Great Again (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1723732#msg1723732)
The Master's Gameshow (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1726533#msg1726533)
The Four Presents II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1728149#msg1728149)
Death at Dawn (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1729187#msg1729187)
A Rift in Time (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1731308#msg1731308)
The Dimension of Wolves (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1734560#msg1734560)
Distant Lands II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1735962#msg1735962)
Death at Dawn II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1737138#msg1737138)
Paranoia (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1738046#msg1738046)
Neighborhood of fear (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1739089#msg1739089)
Land of Heretics (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1739838#msg1739838)
Fame and Fortune (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1740777#msg1740777)
April Fools Play (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1741523#msg1741523)
Back to the Drawing Board (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1742046#msg1742046)
Town(less) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1742525#msg1742525)
A Color-Flipping Manhunt (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1743398#msg1743398)
Revolution (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1744691#msg1744691)
Rock Frontier (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1747387#msg1747387)
The Epidemic (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1749621#msg1749621)
Trifecta (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1753566#msg1753566)
Werewolves in the Flipverse (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1755226#msg1755226)
Penalties (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1757724#msg1757724)
Superstitious (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1760058#msg1760058)
Interrogation (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1762092#msg1762092)
The Wolfdon Colorground (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1764224#msg1764224)
Literally the best bid ever (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1765565#msg1765565)
Guys, where are we? II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1766818#msg1766818)
True Colors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1769762#msg1769762)
Trifecta II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1771969#msg1771969)
Superstitious II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1774434#msg1774434)
The Room Where It Happens (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1776523#msg1776523)
Ticket to Ride (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1779649#msg1779649)
Another Party of Death (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1780448#msg1780448)
The Bakers Game (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1782391#msg1782391)
Shifting Tides (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1785435#msg1785435)
Blinded by Love (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1788378#msg1788378)
Guys, where are we? III (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10649.msg1790182#msg1790182)
Library of Silence (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1800651#msg1800651)
Werewolves in SPACE! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1802454#msg1802454)
Magicus Extremos (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1805478#msg1805478)
Gentlemen, What Is Our Location? (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1806505#msg1806505)
The Rivals' Game (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1808472#msg1808472)
Road Trip (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1809387#msg1809387)
Side Choosing (Choosing Faction) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1812308#msg1812308)
Town of Volcanolio (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1815575#msg1815575)
Men of Noble Standing, Where in This Vast World Are We? (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1817338#msg1817338)
Fame and Fortune II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1818257#msg1818257)
Old Time's Sake (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1820403#msg1820403)
Catchphrases (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1820968#msg1820968)
Communication (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1822735#msg1822735)
War of Werewolves (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1823511#msg1823511)
[untitled] (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1824189#msg1824189)
Working Abilities (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1826307#msg1826307)
Communication II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1826695#msg1826695)
The Heist (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1829605#msg1829605)
Perfection (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1835711#msg1835711)
Confusian (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1838630#msg1838630)
The Sun Temple (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1839355#msg1839355)
The Demon Within (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1844643#msg1844643)
Return of the Circus (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1846340#msg1846340)
Spell Factory (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1851189#msg1851189)
Life and Death (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1855160#msg1855160)
Werewolves in SPACE! II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1856656#msg1856656)
Time Tounges (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1858350#msg1858350)
Pathological Lying (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1862195#msg1862195)
Revolution II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1863353#msg1863353)
NOBODY IS STRONGER THAN DONALD TRUMP (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1866193#msg1866193)
How Is This Supposed To Be Won (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1866874#msg1866874)
The Bloody River (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1867235#msg1867235)
Shadows of the Past (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1869149#msg1869149)
The Rights and the Wrongs (Morality) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1871536#msg1871536)
Diagnosed with disease (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1872442#msg1872442)
Flipline (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1873440#msg1873440)
Lunatic Asylum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1874656#msg1874656)
Locked and Loaded (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1876380#msg1876380)
Codename: Ser (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1880152#msg1880152)
Werewolves on Rails (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1881963#msg1881963)
Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1885397#msg1885397)
Make TWG Great Again! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1889737#msg1889737)
Foreign Affairs (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1893598#msg1893598)
Reversal of Fortune (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1895943#msg1895943)
A Normal Day Outside (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1897893#msg1897893)
Corrupt Forces (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1899282#msg1899282)
[untitled] (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1901725#msg1901725)
End of Days (Widow's Origins) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1904607#msg1904607)
The Color War (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1906579#msg1906579)
Players' Preference (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1907249#msg1907249)
Lost Connection (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1910244#msg1910244)
The Sea-Sun of Visitations (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1911750#msg1911750)
Hypnotic Dangers (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1914341#msg1914341)
Faraway City (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1915970#msg1915970)
Revenge of the Beep (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1918297#msg1918297)
Killing School Life (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1922661#msg1922661)
Say YES to recolors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1925535#msg1925535)
Myths (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1927305#msg1927305)
Remnants of Skystone (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1929968#msg1929968)
Dostoevsky's Exile (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1935557#msg1935557)
Killing School Life (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1937266#msg1937266)
Secrets of the Boulevard (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1940995#msg1940995)
Silent Voices (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1943528#msg1943528)
Shadows of the Past II (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1943614#msg1943614)
The Throne (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1945548#msg1945548)
An Abnormal Evening Inside (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1948566#msg1948566)

Bidding Pool 1 (The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up, Wait For It, Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology, Outlast, Kainu Mosir, Secrets of the Boulevard, An Abnormal Evening Inside, Return to the Courtroom) (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1976928#msg1976928)
  • Click on the link to go to the bid
  • Bolded links are for successful bids
  • Italic links are for successful bids that were cancelled later
  • Bolded + Italic links are for successful bids that were delayed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 27, 2017, 08:22:14 PM
Standard TWG List
For those of you who struggle balancing roles, here is what a typical rolelist template in TWG looks like. You can always change it up a bit and add new roles, but preferably, keep it at 17-19 roles. The most common number for TWG roles is 18.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Non-Human Town Population
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Town Support
Town Killing
Random Blue Town

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Random Wolf
Mason

Neutral Selection Unbiased (Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, etc)
Neutral Unbiased (Fool, Cheater, Maniac, etc)
Neutral Biased (Vigilante, Arsonist, etc)

Note: Due to the large number of games waiting to be played currently, please do not bid any boring games which are merely passable. People with original bids want to have their turn too.

Keep it simple
Unless you are very confident and have been playing TWG for a while, your first bid should probably be nice and simple. Avoid new gameplay mechanics, or large numbers of new, complex roles. Come up with a couple of ideas for neat new roles, and place them into a fairly simple rolelist. Or, if you have no such ideas but want to get a feel for hosting, you may just want to bid a standard rolelist with no new roles or anything, as it will likely be approved. Good games don't have to have complex gimmicks or 7 new roles and a new faction, all good games need are active hosts, active players, and interesting gameplay, all factors which are barely affected by the rolelist.

Role Choice
NEVER ever ever add roles that automatically grant victory to one particular team or ends the game if they are killed. If you have any further questions, please check TWG: Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil for more information as to why this is a terrible idea. Do not add roles that are almost automatically confirmable such as Miller, Lackey, and Mayor. It is also a good idea to not use roles that are in general poorly received, i.e. Lovers and Magician Wolf.

Don’t be repetitive!
Even if a previous game had a gimmick/faction that made the game extremely fun, don't reuse it in the bid right after. Try to mix roles up a bit. Don’t use roles where other people have been using a lot lately (besides your typical roles from each alignment). There are a lot of underused roles that may work just as fine, if not better!

Learn from others
Look at past bids that have failed and passed, try to either take ideas from failed bids and make them better or try to learn from the good bids. It’s good advice to especially look at the balancing on bids that have won for good examples. It’s also a nice idea to look through the bidding poll history of bids that didn’t make it, and try to read the reasonings as to why they failed so you won’t likely end up making the same mistakes.

Team Games
Team games are now a bit of a special case with TWG. They were once deemed as quite fun, except, there have been several issues regarding either majority rules (when it’s Team 1 v Team 2) or severe inactivity and lack of clear ideas for lynching (check Another Party of Death). As many team games require different teams to kill off specific teams, it’s hard to gain leads in them. Please try to avoid team games as much as possible unless you have some way to solve both issues (Rivals is as of the time of writing, the best possible format for team games). First-time bidders should avoid team games altogether, as they can be more complicated than regular games and are not as good at preparing people for hosting regular games.

Don’t copy Town of Salem rolelists
This is TWG. Rolelists that are ToS based with lots of colors for various roles don’t work the same way they would in ToS. Please avoid imitating these rolelists as much as possible.

Make sure to get feedback
While the rules in this guide should help you avoid most major mistakes when bidding, there will always be little things which can slip under your radar. To avoid this, it is recommended that before submitting your bid to the queue, you send it to 2-4 experienced TWG players/bidders. Preferably submit your bids to someone who’s at least hosted one TWG and played more than five games. These people will hopefully be able to spot any issues in your bid that you may want to work on, and help you with solving them.

Written by: Qazikol, KrispyKremeExtreme

If you have any suggestions, feel free to post them in this topic.



At Nickito's request, our first poll will be a repoll of Library of Silence.

TWG: Library of Silence

Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason
Politician - Can pick one person to count as two votes, and only at Day 3, it will grant someone a Knot Expert-like protection instead.
Brutal Demon - Red. Reveals if killed.

Wolfsbane
Seer
Assaulter - Once in the game, he can kill 3 people at once. If he instead kill one by one, he has 2 shots to do so.
Jock - Can distract someone each night, thus roleblocking them, but they cannot distract the same person twice in a row. If one is distracted, he/she will be notified. Wolves still kill even if one of them is roleblocked, unless if there is only one Wolf left. If a Brutal Wolf is roleblocked, that Brutal Wolf isn't able to kill someone if lynched the following day. Roleblocking a Murderer or Morrigan (unless Morrigan chose Maniac/Unstable) will delay him from roleblocking someone next night.
Student (nerfed): Starting Night 1, can choose to become one of 4 randomly selected roles from Town team, or wait for 4 new roles. If the player has chose his role by Night 1 or 2, it will be revealed to the town. Color will vary to what Student has picked.

Brutal Wolf
Shaman Wolf
Disguised Wolf

Morrigan - Named Renegade for all other future TWG games. Starting Night 1, can choose to become one of 3 randomly selected roles from Neutral team, or wait for 3 new roles. Wins if their specific goal (by respective role) is complete, yet can win with a certain team of a respective role chosen. Unlike Student, she will stay at black color no matter what role she take.
Murderer - Can kill someone each even nights. Beats all if they make it to the end.

Town Population:
Knot Expert
Normal Demon
Supplier
Watchdog

Town Killing:
Brutal Demon

Town Investigative:
Coroner
Seer
Stalker
Warden

Town Protective:
Angel
Guardian
Mercenary
Security
Soldier

Town Support:
Gentleman
Necromancer
Psychic
Transporter
Wolfsbane
Priest

New Roles:
Childlish [Town Support] - Once in the game, if was attacked, the visitors' abilities (even killers) will be countered back to themselves.
Landlord [Town Killing] - Can penalize a person, giving them one stack. One stack and they are roleblocked. Two stacks and they are eliminated by execution.
Templar [Town Killing] - Has one vest, and can kill twice (single target).
Legend:
[1] = Wins with other Neutral, if they make it to the end.
[2] = Wins with Wolves if no other Neutral alive.  Wins with Neutral if they make it to the end. Loses if neither of the two met.
[3] = Wins with anyone.

Neutral Biased:
Assassin - [1] Wins 1v1, and 2v2 (ONLY if another Neutral is alive).
Clairvoyant - [2]
Monster - [1]
Reverter - [2]
Riddler - [1]
Stranger - [3]
Thief - [3]
Trapper - [2]
TSH's Bomber - [2]
Vigilante - [2]

Neutral Unbiased:
Anarchist - [3]
Amnesiac - [3]
Bounty Hunter - [3] Cannot target any other Neutral.
Cheater - [3]
Cronie - If there is still another Neutral alive, the Neutral is automatically chosen. Will know that Neutral, but that Neutral doesn't know him.
Executioner - [3] One target only. Cannot target any other Neutral.
Heretic - [3]
Hunter - [2]
Knight - [3]
Maniac - [3]
Pirate - [3]
Refugee - [3]
Scientist - [2]
Unstable - [3]

New Roles:
Oracle - At night, he will predict who will get lynched by day, if he got it right, he will get one stance. At day, he will predict who will get killed at night, if he got it right, he will get one stance. If he got three stances, wins even if died (it is possible to get these stances at day or night). At six stances, he will resurrect someone into life, and cannot be a Wolf. [3].
Succubus - Every odd nights, she will kill. Every even nights, she will roleblock like a Jock would do, but she can roleblock a Jock. If survived, [2].
Wrestler - Can injure someone, rendering them unable to perform their abilities for two nights. If is done to a Brutal Demon or Brutal Wolf, that person cannot their trigger their ability if lynched. If it is done to a Jock, nothing will happen, yet he will be notified that Jock is immune of roleblocking. Successfully injuring someone will put him on a cooldown of one day, this means he can do his ability every two nights, and this also means if he didn't use his ability, if was roleblocked by a Jock, or happens to roleblock someone roleblock-immune, he can use the ability again next night. If survived, [2].


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on May 27, 2017, 10:20:32 PM
As I said, Disguised Wolf is miscolored, I will change it if it goes through.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on May 28, 2017, 07:11:55 AM
Change it to green?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on May 29, 2017, 01:14:18 AM
I guess it is truly the end of days.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on May 29, 2017, 04:16:24 AM
I think you should change the minimum votes to an Odd number


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on May 29, 2017, 04:31:18 AM
I think you should change the minimum votes to an Odd number
^ Agreed. It is because what if the minimum votes would be such an even number? That would make a tie.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 05:14:33 AM
As mentioned in the first post, a bid loses by default if the poll is tied.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 05:21:38 AM
Library of Silence did not receive enough votes to become an official TWG.

New bid:
Gimmick: There is a limited oxygen supply of 100 oxygen units. At the end of each day/night, the amount of oxygen units decreases by the amount of players alive during that period. If the amount of oxygen goes below zero, the game ends with the alien winning.

Also: The gimmick from Blackout is back. Town members can lynch up to 3 people in a single day, but for every extra player lynched, the wolves get another kill the next night.

Also Also: If oxygen runs out and both the Alien and the Infected Human are dead, everyone loses.

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Infected Human - If the Alien is lynched, will become Alien in their place. Cannot be lynched. Thinks they're human.
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Mercenary
Cop
Coroner
Psycho
Scientist - Each night, can choose if they want to restore some oxygen. If he chooses to do so, one oxygen unit will be restored for every 2 players excluding the alien, rounded down. Cannot restore more than 15 oxygen units over the course of the game.
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Alien - 3 times in the game, can revive any dead player. Players revived by the Alien use up two times more oxygen than usual. Can choose his colour Night 1, but cannot change his colour past then. If inactive, will be automatically assigned the colour red. Doesn't need oxygen. Night immune. Wins if oxygen runs out.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on May 29, 2017, 05:28:51 AM
Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on May 29, 2017, 05:29:48 AM
Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last

We had a poll on that in community, I believe.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on May 29, 2017, 05:31:23 AM
(16/4/2017 to 24/5/2017) -How should Dauber Wolf work?
-Host’s choice as long as they specify it

Ah so they should specify.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on May 29, 2017, 05:31:37 AM
Host's choice won


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 05:34:30 AM
May as well say that I bid this.
Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last
1. To minimize the chance of both the Alien and Infected being dead.
2. Each night, paint lasts two nights. This can be changed, though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on May 29, 2017, 05:51:39 AM
to be fair
the repoll was extrmely unfair to olivia IMO
but there's nothing i can do about it

just my opinion


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on May 29, 2017, 05:59:25 AM
to be fair
the repoll was extrmely unfair to olivia IMO
but there's nothing i can do about it

just my opinion
Agree^
And can infected be lynched once he becomes alien?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on May 29, 2017, 06:16:06 AM
This is a game that relies on luck
Alien is too OP, it should just have to survive
I am confident that the meta will change enough that by the time this game is played, Alien will win unless Alien is like, me or something


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 06:16:35 AM
Agree^
And can infected be lynched once he becomes alien?
Yes, should the infected become alien they adopt all of the attributes of the alien while retaining none of its original attributes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on May 29, 2017, 06:18:16 AM
Another problem is that there are situations where friendly fire is not only encouraged, but almost necessary to win


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 06:19:26 AM
This is a game that relies on luck
Alien is too OP, it should just have to survive
I am confident that the meta will change enough that by the time this game is played, Alien will win unless Alien is like, me or something
1. How
2. It already needs to survive to win, it needs to live to the end with that end involving the oxygen running out.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 06:20:47 AM
Another problem is that there are situations where friendly fire is not only encouraged, but almost necessary to win
Or, alternatively, the humans could utilize the Blackout gimmick to reduce oxygen consumption.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on May 29, 2017, 06:22:49 AM
The Alien doesn't need to revive people, especially if they receive double oxygen. It's already almost confirmed they win, now they're just speeding it up rapidly


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on May 29, 2017, 06:23:47 AM
only the one revived player uses up twice oxygen


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on May 29, 2017, 06:25:00 AM
Considering the many ways in which the town can reduce oxygen consumption, Alien is not OP.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on May 29, 2017, 10:07:04 AM
I voted no because I don't find the blackout gimmick necessary


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 01, 2017, 07:00:40 AM
Werewolves in SPACE! did not receive enough votes to become an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG _____: Magicus Extremos
Human
Human
Human
Human
Disguised Wolf

(may add another human if there's an extra sign up)

Seer
Guardian
Warden
Wolfsbane
Psycho


Mason
Wolf
Magician Wolf

Dauber Wolf- 3 times in the game, may paint anybody, paint lasts for 3 nights

Amnesiac
Vigilante

Potion Maker- Every daytime, may choose someone to "Power-Up" for the night. Unless stated otherwise, Power-Up lasts only that night. (i.e.: Chemist powers up wolf D1, it will only last until N2). Each player may only receive a "Power up" once. Wins with the winning faction if they survive until the end.

Human- becomes insomaniac for the night, will know who visited him the night he died
Mason- will be seered as green for the night, even if painted.
Seer, Guardian, Warden, Wolf- May target two people on the same night
Disguised wolf- Will be seered as blue.
Dauber Wolf- Paint lasts forever.
Wolfsbane- Becomes immune to vigilante as well
Psycho- Will gain another night to alert. Power up lasts forever.
Amnesiac- May remember the role of someone who is alive
Vigilante- Gains another bullet. Power up lasts forever
Magician wolf- If before N5, may convert a night earlier, if after, may convert 2 people.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 01, 2017, 07:28:07 AM
i love it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 01, 2017, 08:20:33 AM
Wow


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: noname on June 01, 2017, 07:15:48 PM
This seems interesting. I like it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 01, 2017, 07:33:26 PM
I only have one problem, and that is that the Potion Maker's win condition basically allows him to act as a refugee. Maybe change it to be similar to the Optometrist and have him have to win with the team of the first person he powers up. That, or just make him a town role. Either way, that's a fairly minor issue, so I voted yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 02, 2017, 04:33:18 AM
I'd suggest having only one of Magician wolf or dauber wolf, otherwise nice bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 02, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
Apparently I voted no? I wanted to vote yes though this is a unique bid and i'd love to play it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 02, 2017, 06:04:08 AM
"Magicus Extremos", bid by Zero, will be the 84th official TWG! Congratulations!

"New" bid:
You stand in the Sydney airport with your ticket to Los Angeles, but you sense this flight will take you quite elsewhere. This flight in fact is bound for the place where you will find the ultimate struggle for survival. You can board this plane and discover what lies ahead, or you can stay safe and find another flight to Los Angeles tomorrow. The choice is yours!

A little information on the flight destination:

1. Doug (Temple Master) - Cures one infection per phase. Can cure himself.
2. Julia (Wolf Medic) - Cures one druggie per phase. Can cure herself.
3. Rick (Wolf Shaman) - Seers one player per night. Seered green.
4. Benjamin (Brutal Wolf) - When he's lynched, he takes another person down with him.

5. Danny (Failsafe) - Cures one infection per phase. Can cure himself.
6. Jim (Doctor) - Cures one druggie per phase. Can cure himself.
7. Sam (Seer) - Seers one player per night.
8. Larry (Cop) - Kills one player per night.
9. Henry (Guardian) - Every night, can guard someone from a wolfing. Can not save someone from the Man in Black.
10. Mike (Coroner) - Learns the last color of the deceased.
11. Saul (Mason) - Just told he's human, doesn't know his role/character. Seered red.
12. Katherine (Mason) - Just told she's human, doesn't know her role/character. Seered red.
13. Lyle (Human) - Just told he’s human, doesn’t know his role/character.
14. Jon (Human) - Just told he's human, doesn't know his role/character.
15. Sean (Human) - Just told she's human, doesn't know her role/character.
16. Clair (Human) - Just told she's human, doesn't know her role/character.

17. Man in Dark (credit to Nickito for rewriting how it works)
-Night immune to all except Protector
-Can change his colour every night, similar to Dauber Wolf
-Knows all Player's roles, and their actions each night (i.e Nickito guarded Lenny)
-Once each Day and Night, can throw a meth bag at someone to 'addict' them. The next Day/Night, the 'addicted' person will die if they are not healed by Jim or Julia.
-Each Night can infect a player and steal their night power. Can use their power the same night, or steal  their lynch vote for the next day unless they are disinfected by Doug or Danny.
-His lynch votes do not count.
-Wins when Jake and all 6 Candidates are dead. This overrides Human/Wolf victory.
-The Candidates are 6 random players that can be Human or Wolf. They know from the beginning of the game that they are candidates, the MID does not.
-Once Jake is killed by the Man in Dark, he learns the Candidate's names
-The living Candidates are asked via PM if they want to become the Protector, the first one to respond will become the Protector
-The Protector is seer'd white and in addition to their normal night power, can also choose to attack someone.
-If they are the MID, they die. If not, nothing happens.
-The Protector's role does not change otherwise.
-Jake isn't a role in the game, he is an abstract concept, or a condition that needs to be met before MiD can learn the Candidates.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 02, 2017, 06:30:55 AM
YESS ZERO
SLAYYY THATS MY SAT SHARMY


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 02, 2017, 06:59:47 AM
I don't think anyone needs to explain their vote for this one.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 02, 2017, 09:11:49 AM
Oh wow i actually made it XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 02, 2017, 09:51:50 AM
The bag is now meth and not cocaine.
Support.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 02, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
first yes vote since Guys, where are we?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 03, 2017, 07:33:27 PM
Gentlemen, What Is Our Location? will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG:The Rivals' Game
Twist of Game:Each person has a rival. Even if someone has met the win conditions, they have to beat their rival if they want to actually win. Rivals can even be on the same side as you.
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomiac

Cop
Apprentice
Fail Apprentice
:Is told randomly whether someone is guilty or innocent.
Mercenary
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Disguised Wolf
: Appears innocent in Apprentice checks.
Psychotic Wolf
Unstable
Hunter
Amnesiac
Vigilivanite
Assassin


There are currently no bids on the queue and there aren't very many games waiting to be played. If you have any ideas for bids in mind, please submit them ASAP.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 03, 2017, 07:39:28 PM
I don't think I have to explain my vote


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 03, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
same


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 03, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
so if we get a bid soon can this voting end early because we all know where this is going


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 04, 2017, 09:18:31 AM
Can I submit Guys, where are we? again?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 04, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
i should submit
guys i know exactly our location


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 04, 2017, 05:42:29 PM
Can I submit Guys, where are we? again?
You can only submit the same bid three times.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 04, 2017, 05:47:15 PM
The Rivals' Game will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG Road Trip

So there's this road trip but the wolves go...
"BAH IMA KILL YOU!"
Everyone runs away and yells and now they travel round and round tryna to kill wolfys

The Gimmick is each night a road trip occurs and something happens at that stop.

ROLES
Human
Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Insomniac

Phsyco
Gossip
Coroner
Wolfsbane
Eidetic Wolf
Wolf
Inspector Wolf
Magician Wolf
Hitchhiker
This role attempts to get to his destination the destination is Night 4 basically survive to night 5 and reach El Paso


Potential Destinations
Gas Station-No Effects
Los Angeles-Light pollution causes all roles to have a 60% chance of getting a false result

Salt Lake City-Extreme snow causes roles to do there action but the action be delayed to the next day exception is wolves

Area 51-The Wolves are able to stealthily get around and kill 2 wolves

Washington DC-A random human can choose to sacrafice themselves in place of the wolf victim

Dallas Texas-Lynch votes of a wolf and human are worth 2

Tallahase Florida-A user takes a vacation on a beach but the lynch votes don't count

Montpelier Vermont-Seer gets 2 results

Albequerque New Mexico-Knot Expert if not lynched before they will not be immune to first lynching here

Las Vegas-Two nights in a row

El Paso-Hitchhiker automatically wins (day 5)

Texarkana-Two days in a row

Baton Rouge-Shown as gas station to humans but random city to wolves

Cheyyene,Wyoming-Shown as gas station to wolves but random city to humans

Boise Idaho-Random human trades role with seer seer loses ability for night

Lincoln,Nebraska-Random user immune


Location will be randomized
users can choose to stay at a gas station once a game
willing to change roles and stuff


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 04, 2017, 05:51:58 PM
You can only submit the same bid three times.
but you would change that rule if you needed to right?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 04, 2017, 05:54:03 PM
I am not going to change that rule, but I will not attempt to close any loopholes in that rule.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 04, 2017, 06:03:02 PM
:(


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 04, 2017, 06:13:52 PM
Voted no, there's too much which is based on random variables, with the Hitchhiker just boiling down to "Each night, roll a 16-sided die, if you roll an El Paso, you win."

Also, Montpelier's gimmick involves a seer, despite there being no seer.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 04, 2017, 08:13:49 PM
Also that Area 51 gimmick is pretty lame


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 04, 2017, 09:03:47 PM
Also, 15 roles with 4 wolves and an independent puts humans at a significant disadvantage.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 05, 2017, 02:07:07 AM
Area 51-The Wolves are able to stealthily get around and kill 2 wolves
Wolves will kill 2 wolves?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 07, 2017, 09:35:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2dN6Bl4.jpg)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 07, 2017, 09:36:54 AM
This is great ^


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 07, 2017, 10:13:43 AM
"correspond to our current formation" would be better


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on June 07, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2dN6Bl4.jpg)

i figured that would be a dead meme by now?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 07, 2017, 10:26:22 PM
i figured that would be a dead meme by now?
It is mostly a dead meme


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 08, 2017, 12:30:35 AM
Road Trip will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Welcome to TWG: Side Choosing!!! (Creative name, I know)
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Necromancer
Priest
Wolf
Decoy Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Refugee
Undecided - On either night 1 or 2, must decide either the human fraction or the wolf fraction. Depending on what they choose, they would count as a human/wolf to the ratio. On Night 4, they could upgrade to one of the two random roles from their fraction given to them by the host.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 08, 2017, 12:31:44 AM
Also, we're once again out of bids, so more submissions would be greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: noname on June 08, 2017, 05:44:30 AM
What have I done


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 08, 2017, 06:36:31 AM
a rather simple game with nothing special
it's not problematic so i'm gonna go with Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 08, 2017, 06:02:57 PM
Enough yes votes to update, but I won't until I get some new bids.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 09, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
I am renaming this game to Choosing Faction.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 10, 2017, 08:25:37 AM
To speed up the process, I sent in a bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 11, 2017, 06:29:42 AM
Butanol's bid, Choosing Faction, will be the 85th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Town of Vocanolio
There is a raging volcano that will erupt in 8 days time, killing everyone. People want to escape, but the wolves kill everyone who leaves the town, as well as one person each night. As well, someone is manipulating the previously quiet volcano of Mount Firo to kill someone every 3 days.
Twist:This game is on a time limit. If Day 8 passes, the volcano will erupt and everyone loses unless the Mad Scientist is alive.
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Necromancer
Cop
Wolf
Decoy Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Unstable
Mad Scientist
: Can choose someone to kill every three nights. If Day 10 passes and he is still alive, he wins alone.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 11, 2017, 06:32:36 AM
Sure, why not


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 11, 2017, 06:34:31 AM
Day 8 will most likely never come, making the gimmick basically redundant. Day 10 is even less likely to come making it near-impossible to win as Mad Scientist.
Also, Mad Scientist being a killing role is counter-productive since what he really wants is to keep the game going for as long as possible. Give him the ability of a Guardian or a Necromancer, that's what I did in my bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 11, 2017, 06:34:43 AM
Yeah, we are really unlikely to make it to Day 10. Change that and we're good.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 11, 2017, 06:36:38 AM
Even then, the gimmick is still near non-existent, and the Mad Scientist is still a vigilante-refugee with a counter-productive ability.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 11, 2017, 06:37:25 AM
Also, more bids pls.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 11, 2017, 08:48:36 AM
The thing is would we even reach day 10
Let alone day 8
I voted no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 11, 2017, 08:53:41 AM
I can see why the time limit is a thing. Games like the Inhospitable Hospital are a good example of too long games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 11, 2017, 02:46:48 PM
Not only do games rarely last as long as Hospital, and not only was Hospital actually pretty good, but it only lasted to Day 9. So, not only does the main point of this game only come into play in exceptional circumstances, but the new role requires that the game last to a point which almost no game has ever reached. And that he's one of the 3 or so people who's alive. And have him be a killing role even though having an extra killing role just diminishes his already miniscule chance of winning by speeding up the game. This bid is really just a bloopy version of Werewolves in Space.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 13, 2017, 03:34:43 AM
Town of Volcanolio will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Men of Noble Standing, Where in This Vast World Are We?
(Not a complete copy)

You stand in the Shanghai airport with your ticket to Tokyo, but you sense that this flight will take you elsewhere. This flight in fact is bound for the place where you will find the ultimate struggle for survival. You can board this plane and discover what lies ahead, or you can stay safe and find another flight to Tokyo tomorrow. The choice is yours!

A little information on the flight destination:

Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason
Watchdog

Seer
Coroner
Guardian - can only guard against wolfings, not death from morphine addiction.
Cop
Temple Master - each night, can cure a person from morphine addiction.

Wolf
Wolf Medic - each night, can cure a person from morphine addiction.
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman

Man in Monochrome - each night, can throw a morphine bag at someone, addicting them to morphine. They will die the next night unless they are cured by the Wolf Medic or Temple Master. The Man in Monochrome wants 5 specific people, called candidates, to die. He will win when all 5 candidates die. The candidates can be any role in the game, and they will know they are the candidates from the beginning.
Maniac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 05:20:24 AM
No
Can Prem even bid before Shifting Tides is over


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 05:21:40 AM
btw I vote to ban Guys where are we themed bids


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 05:33:56 AM
The bid was redesigned a lot it would be nice if you could explain your no vote.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 13, 2017, 05:44:39 AM
No
Can Prem even bid before Shifting Tides is over
As far as I know, the only rule is that you can't host twice in a row.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 05:54:04 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a troll bid
If it's not, the Man in Monochrome is even worse than MiB


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: noname on June 13, 2017, 06:34:48 AM
This is like an expanding brain meme


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 06:42:13 AM
btw I vote to ban Guys where are we themed bids
I agree


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 13, 2017, 06:44:01 AM
btw I vote to ban Guys where are we themed bids
Same


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 06:49:19 AM
It removes everything that made the original special, and kept the problems, such as morphine addiction and separate Guardians


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 06:51:22 AM
It removes everything that made the original special, and kept the problems, such as morphine addiction and separate Guardians
Yeah this is a worse version of Guys, Where are we?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 07:07:48 AM
It removes everything that made the original special, and kept the problems, such as morphine addiction and separate Guardians

The original was cocaine, actually.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 07:08:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2dN6Bl4.jpg)

@Everilyfel


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 08:23:04 AM
The original was cocaine, actually.
The original was heroin


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 13, 2017, 09:08:13 AM
I don't think I have to explain my vote


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
18 votes in 6 hours, interesting


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 10:02:11 AM
18 votes in 6 hours, interesting

I pointed it out too, I find it weird

Everytime a yes vote happens a no vote happens too.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 10:03:56 AM
what's I mean is like, a yes vote will happen and 5 minutes later so does a no vote.

Then a no vote happens and a yes vote happens suddenly.

There's barely been a difference for a while now.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 13, 2017, 10:10:12 AM
That is interesting though. It's just, TWG usually only gets like 18-20 players, and this was updated when I was in school. Most USA people are in school rn. I got back and this had like 17 or 16 votes by then.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 10:13:48 AM
Im in school too


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 13, 2017, 10:25:05 AM
That is interesting though. It's just, TWG usually only gets like 18-20 players, and this was updated when I was in school. Most USA people are in school rn. I got back and this had like 17 or 16 votes by then.
Most schools are letting out for summer so I wouldn't be surprised if some forumers weren't at school (summer for me and i suppose for any folks that live in us south)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 10:43:55 AM
Most schools are letting out for summer so I wouldn't be surprised if some forumers weren't at school (summer for me and i suppose for any folks that live in us south)
Oh actually that's true. I forget some people end a literal month earlier than me XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
what's I mean is like, a yes vote will happen and 5 minutes later so does a no vote.

Then a no vote happens and a yes vote happens suddenly.

There's barely been a difference for a while now.
This must be that glitching forum software
By the way I just want to make it clear whether a tie counts as a success or failure. I always counted it as a failure since a majority of the forum did not vote to play it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 13, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
at least more bids are coming in even if its slowly


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
This must be that glitching forum software

I don't think so


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 13, 2017, 11:50:42 AM
This must be that glitching forum software
I hope you are joking


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 12:03:44 PM
This must be that glitching forum software
By the way I just want to make it clear whether a tie counts as a success or failure. I always counted it as a failure since a majority of the forum did not vote to play it.

Tie is a loss according to the firstborn post.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 13, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
"the firstborn post"


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 01:23:48 PM
It was autocomplete, I noticed it but I was texting at school so I couldn't correct it.

Just like if I only type "Senpai" it will automatically add the Violet.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
I hope you are joking
ofc


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 13, 2017, 02:48:43 PM
Submit bids please


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 04:40:49 PM
ah why are people voting Yes on this bid
it's like all of the bad parts of Guys, where are we, which people voted no on


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 13, 2017, 04:44:09 PM
If this wins I'm deleting my account


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
ah why are people voting Yes on this bid
it's like all of the bad parts of Guys, where are we, which people voted no on
Because Prem tells people to vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 13, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
So I can tell people to vote no?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 13, 2017, 05:35:22 PM
I mean, there isn't anything really proving if he is doing it or not, but I have to say I find it pretty weird how this bid has like...so many more votes than previous bids..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 05:36:07 PM
So I can tell people to vote no?
it's against the rules to tell people to vote (well non-TWG players at least)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 05:36:24 PM
It has only had normal votes in the past few hours.

Let's see what the next bid gets, I guess. TWG has overall been more active lately.

(Also I think asking people to vote yes or no is banned)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
it's against the rules to tell people to vote (well non-TWG players at least)

Yeah I got ninjad


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 05:40:14 PM
It has only had normal votes in the past few hours.

Let's see what the next bid gets, I guess. TWG has overall been more active lately.
It has the same activity, the current TWG has only 17 sign ups


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
It has the same activity, the current TWG has only 17 sign ups

It has new players and some people missed signing up though.

There were 19 people total, because two unsigned and probably 2-3 people who missed signing up and are still TWG fans.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 05:53:32 PM
It has new players and some people missed signing up though.

There were 19 people total, because two unsigned and probably 2-3 people who missed signing up and are still TWG fans.
I didn't see anyone missing sign ups, 22 votes is very far-fetched for TWG activity right now


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 06:01:14 PM
I didn't see anyone missing sign ups, 22 votes is very far-fetched for TWG activity right now

They wouldn't have commented tho

I'd say check the last 5 or so games and see who signed up for them, but didn't sign up in the last two.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 06:05:50 PM
They wouldn't have commented tho

I'd say check the last 5 or so games and see who signed up for them, but didn't sign up in the last two.
Still, usually there would only be like 16 votes on the poll even though the game has 18 sign ups, not everyone who plays votes on the poll, 22 votes when the current game has 17 sign ups is kinda impossible


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 06:07:08 PM
Let's see.

So, Lucia and TSH did sign up for TWG at first, so 19 votes.

Vinnie voted too so 20.

There's 2 spots left for non TWG people or old TWG players.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 06:09:28 PM
Let's see.

So, Lucia and TSH did sign up for TWG at first, so 19 votes.

Vinnie voted too so 20.

There's 2 spots left for non TWG people or old TWG players.
There's no proof that the 19 people voted


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 13, 2017, 06:12:36 PM
Yeah we have to make assumptions.

I'd just wait and see what the next bid gets


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 13, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
25 votes now, I don't think there is an explanation for that


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: noname on June 14, 2017, 05:08:53 AM
Can I change my yes vote to a no?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 05:22:37 AM
I'd say you should probably provide proof that you voted yes, because I believe you were very against this bid before


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 05:24:06 AM
I'd say you should probably provide proof that you voted yes, because I believe you were very against this bid before

This should happen for all vote switching.

I don't want to bring up who, and it isn't TSH, but there was once a user who 'accidentally voted' in almost every single poll.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 05:39:34 AM
I have received a bid that is ready to go on the poll, so hopefully I'll be able to update once TSH provides proof of his vote.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 05:44:18 AM
There we go then, next bid will be up.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 05:56:01 AM
Men of Noble Standing, Where in This Vast World Are We? will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Fame and Fortune

Human
Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert

Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Gentleman
Necromancer
Psychic

Mason

Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Decoy Wolf

Vigilante
Thief
Pirate


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 06:01:26 AM
This game is boring, and Pirate is a bad role. Voted no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 14, 2017, 06:51:21 AM
Can I rename potion maker to something else?
I got another idea for potions


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 06:53:59 AM
Renaming is perfectly fine, though any changes to how the game works should be voted on.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 06:54:50 AM
I think the bid is fine. Boring but nothing bad.

Pirate matches the "Fortune" part I guess.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 14, 2017, 06:59:23 AM
Renaming is perfectly fine, though any changes to how the game works should be voted on.
mechanics remains the same, just the name will be different


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 07:06:59 AM
mechanics remains the same, just the name will be different
Okay, feel free to change it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 07:28:17 AM
Psychic is bad and this game is boring


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 14, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Psychic is bad, boring rolelist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 14, 2017, 09:56:21 AM
Dislike Phsycic and overall boring role list
I wouldn't sign up


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
Is the Psychic really that bad...? If the wolves are OP it can help the town nerf them.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 14, 2017, 10:55:12 AM
Is the Psychic really that bad...? If the wolves are OP it can help the town nerf them.
But the Wolves are not OP


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 14, 2017, 10:57:51 AM
Is the Psychic really that bad...? If the wolves are OP it can help the town nerf them.
the wolves aren't op tho


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 10:58:44 AM
Human setup isn't too good though, while Decoy Wolf can roleblock 4/5 of the town blue roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 14, 2017, 10:58:50 AM
this page is the paragon of redundancy


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 11:01:49 AM
Human setup isn't too good though, while Decoy Wolf can roleblock 4/5 of the town blue roles.
Yeah but not all at once
Psychic is a bad role that shouldn't be used


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Yeah but not all at once
Psychic is a bad role that shouldn't be used

But why is it bad

Three of you have said 'psychic is a bad role/we don't need it' 5 times now.



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 14, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it

also
>tfw this doesn't have 18 votes in 6 hours


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 12:34:26 PM
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it
psychic is a bad role/we don't need it

also
>tfw this doesn't have 18 votes in 6 hours

Nice dodging the question.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 14, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
  • Pirate is also bad
  • This game is overall boring
Now what are your reasons for voting Yes?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
I think the bid is fine. Boring but nothing bad.

Pirate matches the "Fortune" part I guess.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on June 14, 2017, 01:14:52 PM
So you're basically voting due to the fact that Pirate works with the theme?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Blue on June 14, 2017, 01:16:19 PM
Stop fighting -_-

It doesn't matter who voted yes or no and people are being mean


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 01:16:42 PM
So you're basically voting due to the fact that Pirate works with the theme?

No, it was a comment on the side.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
Stop fighting -_-

It doesn't matter who voted yes or no and people are being mean
This is true. Although I've been doing it too, these bids are just turning into debate discussions over the smallest things. And some bidders must be getting offended at this point that people genuinely post things like "YAY THIS BID IS LOSING!"


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 01:32:05 PM
Isn't that what they're supposed to be


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 14, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
i mean if this bid does get through
i've always wanted to play as pirate thats a plus and i'll get a slim chance


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
I haven't seen anyone cheering that a bid is losing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 14, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
I have, but I will delete my post since it appears that the user has deleted their post where they were cheering them on. Now anyways, lets just forget about that.






Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 01:45:33 PM
If this bid goes through I hope the bidder removes Psychic


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
Isn't that what they're supposed to be

Things like, "I don't like the psychic" are normal. But not questioning fraud in voting, why someone voted for yes/no, in my opinion


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 14, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
Anyways, I am fine with this game being boring. I don't see a problem with that but I am not that big fan of Pirate since it's just like a luck-based Refugee. You can literally claim Pirate and I doubt anyone would kill you unless you happen to get CCed. And, you just gotta be lucky, which I don't really like since there is literally no strategy to it which I don't really like since you either get lucky or you don't.. Sorry Prem if you made it, but it's not a good role at all.

I don't really wanna be playing against Psychic as a wolf either..but my biggest problem is Pirate. I would not wanna be it since there is no strategy involved.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
Actually Nickito made Pirate if I recall, the role I created was Psychic.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 14, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
Oh my bad. *Sorry Nick then.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 02:02:11 PM
I thought Lenny made Pirate
Whoever it was it wasn't me


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 14, 2017, 02:05:53 PM
ok my bad Lenny then*


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 14, 2017, 02:07:55 PM
Inb4 lenny comes and says he didn't make it XD
nah jk

i wonder why bids have been coming in so slowly recently


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 14, 2017, 02:18:28 PM
I thought Lenny made Pirate
Whoever it was it wasn't me
Yeah I made the Pirate, I only used it for Deathmatch though which had a different gimmick, I hoped it wouldn't be used in normal games though


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 14, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
Inb4 lenny comes and says he didn't make it XD
nah jk

i wonder why bids have been coming in so slowly recently

Faster updates play a part. We used to have updated extremely long, leading to almost 6 or 7 bids on the poll at one time


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 14, 2017, 06:34:37 PM
Yeah I made the Pirate, I only used it for Deathmatch though which had a different gimmick, I hoped it wouldn't be used in normal games though
idk I was just looking at the list of roles while making a pirate themed game so it looked perfect


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 16, 2017, 12:15:05 PM
we're still tied
somebody come break the tie
read the bid
vote yes or no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 16, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
It was 9-8 for a while, no got a vote today I think.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 16, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
we're still tied
somebody come break the tie
read the bid
vote yes or no
Or it can end now and the bid loses by default


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 16, 2017, 12:19:09 PM
idk
wheatley will just decide i suppose if he continues it or stops it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 16, 2017, 04:51:00 PM
oh it's tied


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 16, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
If there has been 3 days then it counts as a loss.

I believe tomorrow is day 3?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 16, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
I will update now. There are 18 votes, so it is valid to be updated.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 16, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
Fame and Fortune will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
In this game we grab some old roles and mix them up with some newer roles! No new roles this game is simply for old times sake!
We mix the old with the new all for old times sake!


Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Insomniac
Wrathful

Apprentice
Lawyer (Can only defend twice in this game)
Security
Transporter


Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Phsycotic Wolf
Elder Wolf (appears red in this game)
Wolf

Unstable

Amnesiac

Refugee


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 16, 2017, 06:06:09 PM
That's.....a lot of friggin' wolves....


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 16, 2017, 06:06:48 PM
I'd vote Yes if you promise me I am a wolf, otherwise No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 16, 2017, 06:09:13 PM
  • 5 wolves is too much. Add that on to 3 neutral roles, including Amnesiac who can take the total of wolves up to 6, and humans are guaranteed to lose.
  • Elder Wolf is pointless, the only time it will find a guilty is if it happens to find the Unstable/Wrathful, which is unlikely.
  • Lawyer is a bad role, his ability will barely ever come into play and will do more bad than good if it does, most likely. And the nerf doesn't help.
  • Refugee is just a really boring role with no skill involved beyond saying "I'm Refugee" at the beginning of the game.
  • Transporter often does more harm than good.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 16, 2017, 06:09:49 PM
 Also, keep bids coming please.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 17, 2017, 10:39:05 AM
Wolves op


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 17, 2017, 06:49:46 PM
Old Time's Sake will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG Catchphrases

Human (+1)
Human (+2)
Human (+3)
Gentleman (-3)
Disguised Wolf (-2)
Seer (+2)
Guardian (-1)
Psycho (-3)
Necromancer (-2)
Politician-Doubles someone's vote count of their chosing for the next day (-1)
Wolfsbane (+1)

Brutal Wolf (-2)
Wolf Shaman (+3)
Psychotic Wolf (+1)
Mason (-1)

Cheater (+1)
Amnesiac-When they remember, takes the number of their role (-1)
Clockmaker

Each town role will be given a 'quirk' to follow. Every one of their posts will have to contain this quirk. For example, mentioning 2 different diseases in one post or being the most ridiculous, over-the-top American stereotype you can be. The evil roles will have to think up their own quirk to fit in. This doesn't really affect gameplay, it will just be fun to watch XD
Quirks will be randomly assigned and kept secret.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 17, 2017, 06:50:27 PM
Voted Yes since it's functional and we're somewhat short on accepted games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 17, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
I love the quirk idea actually but can we remove the clockmaker?

Voted yes anyways.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 17, 2017, 07:18:07 PM
No - Clockmaker


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 17, 2017, 07:23:22 PM
Yes, but as long as they remove the clockamker.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 17, 2017, 07:37:49 PM
but I <3 Clockmaker


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 17, 2017, 07:42:28 PM
also Fame and Fortune is a rebid I think so put a II next to the new one in Poll History


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 17, 2017, 07:48:08 PM
Can I change my vote to yes?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 17, 2017, 07:52:59 PM
Voting yes because this will be funny


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 17, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
Yes because it would be hillarious


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 17, 2017, 10:15:47 PM
I want to play this so bad!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 17, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
Send in bids so I can update.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 18, 2017, 01:35:23 AM
I'll bid again after LXXXIII


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 18, 2017, 06:54:31 AM
There's only one solution to this: Guys, where are we? Ease up on the bidding restrictions a little bit.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 19, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
I had a dream last night where 3 or 4 people submitted a bid, plus Zero wanted to change his bid to add Lovers for some reason. Then I woke up and remembered that nobody bids anymore :(


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 19, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
hey don't look at me I just bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 20, 2017, 05:17:13 AM
Catchphrases, by Nickito, will become the 86th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Communication

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac

Seer
Psycho
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Forger- once in the game, can choose to forge the message of one of the Messengers. Also once in the game, the can prevent one of the Messengers' messages from going through

Wolf group 1:
Wolf
Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger

Wolf group 2:
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger

Mason

Vigilante
Maniac
Amnesiac


Gimmick: The two Wolf groups don't know each other, but they can use the messages to identify each other


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on June 20, 2017, 05:22:11 AM
Do the 2 wolf groups vote on who they want to kill or do they kill seperately?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 20, 2017, 05:32:13 AM
According to the bidder, "The wolfee will be randomized between the two wolf groups (if they choose a different target)."


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 05:53:24 AM
Wolves are too underpowered even without the whole messenger thing, which just overcomplicates everything imo


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 06:59:26 AM
no, this will make communications inefficient


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 07:09:44 AM
I don't see what's bad about this


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 07:11:19 AM
The biggest problem with Wolves is a lack of communication, so we're limiting communication, and giving them no abilities aside from killing? And there's a role that effectively silences Wolves altogether?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 07:15:30 AM
The biggest problem with Wolves is a lack of communication, so we're limiting communication, and giving them no abilities aside from killing? And there's a role that effectively silences Wolves altogether?
The forger can only silence them 2 times throughout the whole game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 07:20:36 AM
You don't know if you've been forged or not, the Wolves can't risk it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 07:22:47 AM
The wolves could only communicate if the host is online. If, say, Me and Zuki are the wolf messengers and the host is from the USA, that is usually a 9 hour time difference making it near impossible for wolves to talk except once a day.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 07:24:39 AM
Who is the host
This game depends on knowing that tbh


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 20, 2017, 07:25:37 AM
I voted Yes. Sure, the wolves are gonna have to proceed with caution with the forger, but this is where creativity comes into play. ;)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 07:42:25 AM
The wolves could only communicate if the host is online. If, say, Me and Zuki are the wolf messengers and the host is from the USA, that is usually a 9 hour time difference making it near impossible for wolves to talk except once a day.
Pretty sure it doesn't work like that, both Messengers probably prepare a message and it gets sent at the end of the night


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 08:09:34 AM
If it gets send at the end of the night than its useless


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 08:28:11 AM
I mean the Wolves could justPM each other
Of course figuring out the other Wolves will be hard, and once that happens the Wolves are just 3 regular and a Brutal


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
If it gets send at the end of the night than its useless
not really


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 20, 2017, 08:44:03 AM
Couldn't wolves just message each other who they are?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 08:51:39 AM
not really
It is, since there are no shaman or something the only reason wolves can talk about is strategy or who to kill and it's pointless if you do that at the end of the night


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 20, 2017, 08:58:25 AM
the wolves can't really message each other if they don't know hwo the two other wolves are. The wolf pair knows each other but, they don't know the other pair.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 08:59:31 AM
It is, since there are no shaman or something the only reason wolves can talk about is strategy or who to kill and it's pointless if you do that at the end of the night
if this wins a Shaman can replace the normal wolf, I wouldn't vote no just because of one role...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 09:05:06 AM
it is generally a weak and OP human role list


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 20, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
No because a) what's stopping the wolves from saying "I'm player #4 on the sign-up list", pming each other directly and completely avoiding the gimmick, and b) the town is OP


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 09:15:29 AM
No because a) what's stopping the wolves from saying "I'm player #4 on the sign-up list", pming each other directly and completely avoiding the gimmick, and b) the town is OP
a) because the forger exists b) town is not really OP if you replace the normal wolf with a shaman


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 20, 2017, 09:17:28 AM
a) because the forger exists b) town is not really OP if you replace the normal wolf with a shaman
The forger has no way of knowing which message to forge though, so the wolves could just clarify everything twice or respond with the quote from the previous message in the message


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 20, 2017, 09:18:59 AM
The forger has no way of knowing which message to forge though, so the wolves could just clarify everything twice or respond with the quote from the previous message in the message
yeah fair enough, but they surely wont know each other N1, and I think the game would be boring if the wolves know each other


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 20, 2017, 09:24:46 AM
Assuming the forger doesn't know the wolves original message, the wolves will have to strategize and use some logic and creativity to find out the other wolf pair and tell which message was forged or denied from passing. i mean it's not a perfect gimmick but i'm up for this challenge and i'd totally wanna be a wolf in this lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 20, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
Also, I accidentally voted yes I request that it should be changed to No. http://i.imgur.com/YY3FZLM.png


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 20, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
Serious Question: If I believe that Guys, where are we? is the best bid ever created, and that there hasn't been a single bid which has trumped it, is it socially acceptable to vote no on every bid that isn't as good as it?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 20, 2017, 04:53:17 PM
no
source: tried it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 21, 2017, 05:13:41 AM
Communication will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG:War of Werewolves
There is a war going on, but a gas filled the battlefield, affecting everyone. All but 20 died. The 20 that lived don't remember who is on their team, but what their role is and what team they are on. The game ends once one team overpowers the other team by more than one half. Ex. 8 vs 4, the 8 team wins.
Blue Team VS Black Team
Blue Human:A Human for the Blue Team.
Blue Mayor:Knows 2 players on the Blue Team.
Blue Spy:Knows a member of the Black Team.
Blue Soldier:Each night, can kill someone. This can include players on the Blue Team.
Blue Leader:Each night can choose a specific role on The Blue Team to take control of for the night. Can not control the Blue Human, Blue Mayor, Blue Amnesiac, or Blue Insider.
Blue Bomber:Once per game, can set off a bomb, killing 3 random people. This can only be used before Day 3 ends. This can be used on either day or night.
Blue Doctor:Can protect anyone from attack each night, even someone from the Black Team.
Blue Amnesiac:Can remember the role of a person on the Blue Team.
Blue Insider:Has the name of a target of one of the targeting roles on the Black Team each night.

Black Human:A Human for the Black Team.
Black Mayor:Knows 2 players on the Black Team.
Black Spy:Knows a member of the Blue Team.
Black Soldier:Each night, can kill someone. This can include players on the Black Team.
Black Leader:Each night can choose a specific role on The Black Team to take control of for the night. Can not control the Black Human, Black Mayor, Black Amnesiac, or Black Insider.
Black Bomber:Once per game, can set off a bomb, killing 3 random people. This can only be used before Day 3 ends. This can be used on either day or night.
Black Doctor:Can protect anyone from attack each night, even someone from the Blue Team.
Black Amnesiac:Can remember the role of a person on the Black Team.
Black Insider:Has the name of a target of one of the targeting roles on the Blue each night.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 21, 2017, 05:22:49 AM
Theoretically possible for there to be a stalemate, Mayor and Bomber are RNG-based (and their RNG abilities could be game-changing), Amnesiac is a role for fairly slow games whereas this game will be very fast, Insider is useless, Leader is useless.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 21, 2017, 05:32:12 AM
Too much killing roles, especially that friendly fire is on


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 22, 2017, 04:40:45 AM
War of Werewolves will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac

Seer
Guardian
Fail Seer
Cop
Warden
Necromancer

Mason
Amnesiac
Thief- If they steal an Independent's role, the Independent will become a Fool
Arsonist
Monster
Assassin

Humans lose if the number of living Neutral Biased roles (Arsonist, Monster, Assassin) is equal to the number of living humans. If Arsonist and Assassin are alive, Arsonist wins. If Assassin and Monster are alive, Assassin wins. If Monster and Arsonist are alive, Monster wins. If all three are alive, Arsonist wins.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 22, 2017, 04:46:44 AM
What is this game of rock paper scissors doing here


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 22, 2017, 04:48:22 AM
What would you do to decide on who won?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 22, 2017, 05:08:12 AM
Don't use rock paper scissors
Either last one standing, or have a winner hierarchy


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 22, 2017, 05:50:57 AM
If it was hierarchy, it would be near-impossible for the role at the bottom of the hierarchy to win. If it was last man standing, then it would be difficult for any of them to win.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 06:21:54 AM
The Humans will easily win because the Neutral roles work solo


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 22, 2017, 06:27:00 AM
The Humans will easily win because9 the Neutral roles work solo

Remember that there are three killing roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 06:33:16 AM
Remember that there are three killing roles.
remember that it is hard to win without a team, and arsonist doesn't even kill every night, and monster/assassin might get lynched D1


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 06:50:22 AM
Sorry bud, but, the "RPS" part as Nick puts it is the reason why I will vote No. It just doesn't work out imo, and I don't see why equally hard roles would have some advantage over the other in that situation given.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 06:51:33 AM
Sorry bud, but, the "RPS" part as Nick puts it is the reason why I will vote No. It just doesn't work out imo, and I don't see why equally hard roles would have some advantage over the other in that situation given.
I agree


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 22, 2017, 06:54:34 AM
This is a cool bid

I vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 22, 2017, 08:25:45 AM
remember that it is hard to win without a team, and arsonist doesn't even kill every night, and monster/assassin might get lynched D1
I agree that it's difficult to win without a team, but pretty much anyone can be lynched day 1 and Monster/Assassin are pretty high power roles
Sorry bud, but, the "RPS" part as Nick puts it is the reason why I will vote No. It just doesn't work out imo, and I don't see why equally hard roles would have some advantage over the other in that situation given.
So what do you think should happen then?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 22, 2017, 08:29:30 AM
idk when I'm a Neutral Killing I always let the Wolves take charge
With no Wolves to take charge NKs have to start killing, which isn't really an optimal strategy


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 08:32:53 AM
I agree that it's difficult to win without a team, but pretty much anyone can be lynched day 1 and Monster/Assassin are pretty high power rolesSo what do you think should happen then?
I am not entirely sure since I never really thought about that. Personally, I feel like if a few of the Independent roles happened to actually know each other (like maybe 2 or 3) and not have them all be killing roles, it would make this better in terms of victories. But, I am not sure what others think of that.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 08:33:09 AM
I agree that it's difficult to win without a team, but pretty much anyone can be lynched day 1 and Monster/Assassin are pretty high power roles
Yeah, they are high power roles, but still, everyone needs some communication to win (unless you get really really lucky)
idk when I'm a Neutral Killing I always let the Wolves take charge
With no Wolves to take charge NKs have to start killing, which isn't really an optimal strategy
I agree


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 08:36:22 AM
So, should I tie?
It's not gonna tie.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 08:38:50 AM
Just vote whatever you want. If you like it, vote Yes, if not, vote No. You aren't supposed to know the current votes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 08:43:48 AM
Ohhhh you already voted my bad


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 22, 2017, 08:56:46 AM
idk when I'm a Neutral Killing I always let the Wolves take charge
With no Wolves to take charge NKs have to start killing, which isn't really an optimal strategy
So NKs should learn to play more agressively then, what's the problem with that
I am not entirely sure since I never really thought about that. Personally, I feel like if a few of the Independent roles happened to actually know each other (like maybe 2 or 3) and not have them all be killing roles, it would make this better in terms of victories. But, I am not sure what others think of that.
But then it's just a weird wolf team, essentially


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 09:03:29 AM
So NKs should learn to play more agressively then, what's the problem with that
Except when you do that you get seered/lynched/killed so yeah


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 22, 2017, 09:22:08 AM
I am not entirely sure since I never really thought about that. Personally, I feel like if a few of the Independent roles happened to actually know each other (like maybe 2 or 3) and not have them all be killing roles, it would make this better in terms of victories. But, I am not sure what others think of that.
Basically have a wolf team without wolves and ruin the point of the game

slow clap


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 22, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
Basically have a wolf team without wolves and ruin the point of the game

slow clap
...
Independent roles don't have the same abilities as wolves.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 22, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
That would still make a wolf like team which is against everything the bid is for


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 22, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
Also, instead of reling on the wolves, NKs would be reling on each other, which isn't very different.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 22, 2017, 12:39:00 PM
Also, instead of reling on the wolves, NKs would be reling on each other, which isn't very different.
Except that the NKs might end up killing each other, and if ever NK relied on another NK, no one would do anything


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kangablue on June 22, 2017, 12:46:28 PM
I really like this idea. I voted yes- the only thing I don't like is the high amount of humans, but it fits I guess with the independent roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 22, 2017, 02:07:29 PM
I'd vote yes if there could be multiple winners


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 22, 2017, 02:48:11 PM
Except that the NKs might end up killing each other, and if ever NK relied on another NK, no one would do anything
But isn't that the same thing with the wolves? The wolves might end up killing the NK and vice versa
I'd vote yes if there could be multiple winners
Can you explain how this would work a little more- I'm tempted but I"m worried it might just turn into a team game where if the NKs can find each other and then it ends up being a weird team of wolves vs. town


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 22, 2017, 02:51:07 PM
If the independents could win together, it would just be Poisonous Myosotis except the wolves kill more people.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 23, 2017, 12:40:34 PM
How about this- if it makes it through, I'll put up a poll and people can vote between a) rock paper siccsor, b) traditional hiearchy and c) multiple winners.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 23, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
How about this- if it makes it through, I'll put up a poll and people can vote between a) rock paper siccsor, b) traditional hiearchy and c) multiple winners.
I would prefer if this gimmick is just scraped


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 23, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
Only one more vote needed.

Also, why has everyone put forward a bid all of a sudden. I mean, I'm not complaining, but it seems weird that for the past week or so, bids have only come forth one at a time, and only when I ask for them. Now there are 3 on the queue and a 4th being discussed.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 24, 2017, 12:51:50 AM
Just realized Tin changed his vote, nvm.

Will update once the next bidder gives the go-ahead.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 24, 2017, 07:14:48 AM
[untitled] will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Working Abilities - this bid was made to prevent humans from complaining about "doing nothing"

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
 
Seer
Guardian
Warden
Wolfsbane
 
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Psychotic Wolf (tentative: Magician Wolf)
Mason

Arsonist (tentative: Revertor)
Masochist - wants to be killed at night, kills its attacker if dead (wolf attack order goes as following: Brutal Wolf, Magician, Psychotic, Disguised)
Amnesiac
 
Gimmick: The humans won’t have nothing to do in the game for long. There are various abilities, but, these abilities can only be used once whether they work or not. Two humans (or human/Disguised Wolf) are given abilities on N1. They start off knowing each other’s abilities but not each other’s names. On N2, two more Green Roles (Mason is also included since it is a Human but so is Disguised Wolf) will be given an ability with the same concept behind. On N3, the last two are given abilities. A rolelist with abilities will not be given, but the pairs do know each other's abilities to make the game a bit more challenging. Some abilities may be used twice, others not at all. Abilities are randomly assigned.
 
Abilities (Notify the host the NIGHT OF using this ability):
- Autopsy: Sees colors of ONE dead player killed at NIGHT (will see the color of player’s choice - if multiple people die in a night)
- Justice: One bullet
- Hostile: Kills anyone who visits but only given one chance for this alert
- Faithful: Sees who their target visits
- Demonic: Can kill someone when lynched


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 24, 2017, 08:14:29 AM
I like it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 24, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Curious on why the No
hopefully just a troll


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 24, 2017, 08:47:54 AM
Curious on why the No
hopefully just a troll
lmao


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kangablue on June 24, 2017, 11:20:10 AM
Yeah, that bid is really good. XD Definitaly voting yes on that.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 24, 2017, 11:25:14 AM
the bidder adapted this off of an idea I scrapped in favour of Catchphrases
voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 24, 2017, 03:41:14 PM
Working Abilities, by KitKatExtreme, will be the 87th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Communication
 
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac

 
Seer
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Forger- once in the game, can choose to forge the message of one of the Messengers.
 
Wolf group 1:
Wolf Shaman
Disguised Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger
Wolf group 2:
Magician Wolf- can convert starting from N4
Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger
Mason



Vigilante
Maniac
Amnesiac
Supplier: Can give another ability usage to the Wolf Messenger/Disguised Wolf Messenger, Seer (check two people in one night), or Shaman. They will win with everyone if they make it to the end, as long as they used their ability
 
Gimmick: The two Wolf groups don't know each other, but they can use the messages to identify each other. The separate wolf groups can talk as much as they want via PMs, but wolf group 1 can only communicate with wolf group 2 via the messengers.
-Wolf Messengers cant say their (or their teammate's) names in the message


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 24, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
the bidder adapted this off of an idea I scrapped in favour of Catchphrases
and I gave you both of those ideas :(


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 24, 2017, 04:23:46 PM
the new Wolf Messenger rule is too easy to break
just give a list of users that you and your partner aren't lol

the main problem with this bid is that it just won't work manually


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 24, 2017, 05:10:43 PM
the new Wolf Messenger rule is too easy to break
just give a list of users that you and your partner aren't lol

the main problem with this bid is that it just won't work manually
yeah ditto


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 24, 2017, 05:12:29 PM
I do agree with Nick that there are some loop hole stuff, but since this is a new gimmick, and it doesn't seem like a complete wreck, I will vote Yes since I am curious as to how this will turn out. I also see that the town got nerfed as a whole. I would love to play as wolf here especially.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kangablue on June 24, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
I'm voting yes for the same reason as KKE, but question- which wolf group kills? I think this was overlooked in this bid, just needs to be clarified.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 25, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
According to the bidder, "The wolfee will be randomized between the two wolf groups (if they choose a different target)."


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 25, 2017, 03:05:30 AM
I just can't really see the gimmick mattering that much because of all the loopholes. I voted yes because technically there's nothing wrong with the bid, but it's not going to be a particularly unique or different TWG.

EDIT: Actually, what happens if one of the wolf messengers dies? Does communication between the wolves cease permanently?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 25, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
tie


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 25, 2017, 07:57:58 PM


EDIT: Actually, what happens if one of the wolf messengers dies? Does communication between the wolves cease permanently?
the other wolf will get communication ability


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 26, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
Oh. Then if it's not too late I'm going to change my vote to No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 26, 2017, 01:48:42 PM
Oh. Then if it's not too late I'm going to change my vote to No
you have to give proof that you voted yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on June 26, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
(http://imgur.com/a/xczo8)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 27, 2017, 07:13:02 AM
Communication, by Lenny, will be the 88th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: The Master's Gameshow
STORY: Creek, crack. Uh hello? Can I answer the next question? You tremble as the ground starts to shake. Fear soaks through your body. It can't be. But yes, it can. Wolves, Circus Members, and the Masterminds of the gameshow, all have gone crazy, and more than that, the host was killed. Can you survive with your team, or are the wolves a bit too strong for you? Only time will tell... bwahahaha.


MECHANICS
Every day, starting day 1, on top of lynching, everyone must vote for a host for the next night in the topic. The host will know how many people visit a specific person. Here's an example of a message from what the real host would be PMing the host:

1 person visited Nickito.
2 people visited KKE.
4 people visited Symphony.
1 person visited shalomblue.
1 person visited Lenny.

You get what I mean. Remember that the host changes every day, and it dosen't exactly say who visited what or with what role- its not as poweful as it seems.

Also, if you may notice, there are teams- lets review the win conditions:

Each of the black roles wins alone under the conditions in their role. (Only Mastermind will win if Another Win Condition is met first, even if they are still alive)
The green team wins if they have more players than the blue team when all the wolves are dead.
The blue team wins if they have more players than the green team when all the wolves are dead.
The wolves win if there are more wolves than there are humans (of both teams)
The circus wins if all of the circus members die.

If both teams have an equal amount of players when all the wolves die, the game continues until the next player on one of the teams die, meaning the other team has more players OR when another role snags the win.
ROLELIST
(Note: Masterminds are NOT a team, they win ALONE.)

Mastermind: The mastermind lurks around the stadium, killing somebody every night like a vigilvanite. He can only, however, use his abilities thrice throughout the game. He wins alone if he's alive when anyone else wins, including to other black roles
Clockmaster: The difference between the normal clockmaster and this clockmaster is that this clockmaster dosen't kill. Instead, they taint someone every night to change the time, which changes there color to black. Nobody can be tainted more than once, and a black role cannot be tainted. Everything else is normal, wins if his clock reaches 12:00, and his clock starts on 6:00, and the time is public.
Scoremaster: (SEE MECHANICS) His goal is to be picked as the host. Wins alone if picked as the host.

Contestant (+1)- A normal contestant. Like a human but for the blue team.
Contestant (+1)
Cop (+3)- Can shoot someone twice throughout the game, dies if shoots someone on their own team, the blue team.
Seer (+3)- A normal seer, but for the blue team.
Gameshow's Laywer (+2)- The laywer can guard somebody every night, which guards them from any votes in lynching the next day as well as any attacks during the night. Can only use their ability twice throughout the game.

Contestant (-1)- A normal contestant. Like a human but for the green team.
Contestant (-1)
Cop (-3)- Can shoot someone twice throughout the game, dies if shoots someone on their own team, the green team.
Seer (-3)- A normal seer, but for the green team.
Gameshow's Laywer (-2)- The laywer can guard somebody every night, which guards them from any votes in lynching the next day as well as any attacks during the night. Can only use their ability twice throughout the game.

Wolf Cub (-2)- Just a normal wolf.
Brutal Wolf (-2)- Same as normal- will kill another player if lynched.
Wolf Shamon (+2)- Same as normal- can check someone every night for their color.

Confused Clown (+2)- A normal circus member, but shows up red.
Clown (+/-0)- A normal circus member.
Ring Master (+/-0)- Same as normal, once a night, can make the action of a player go to the Ring Master instead.

If roles need to be removed to get all sign ups, Carnival would be removed.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 27, 2017, 07:53:44 AM
team game -> no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 27, 2017, 08:03:59 AM
No more team games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 27, 2017, 08:18:16 AM
Let's just not no the games for being team games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 27, 2017, 08:38:43 AM
Let's just not no the games for being team games.

But this is literally going to be 3 team games out of 10 games.

Team games tend to be inactive and have almost zero strategy in them.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 27, 2017, 08:41:23 AM
This isn't a team game like others. It's like the Rivals, which everyone praises for being a good game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 27, 2017, 08:47:44 AM
Let's just not no the games for being team games.
But I really hate team games


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 27, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
there are 7 different possible winners, no way the blue and green teams will be focusing on each other


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 27, 2017, 11:12:28 AM
This isn't a team game like others. It's like the Rivals, which everyone praises for being a good game
But Rivals was not a good game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 27, 2017, 11:19:27 AM
But this is literally going to be 3 team games out of 10 games.

Team games tend to be inactive and have almost zero strategy in them.
You are judging the entire bid (not mine) on the format, without actually evaluating the game itself. A bit stupid imo.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 27, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
But Rivals was not a good game
Rivals was one of the best TWG games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 27, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
You are judging the entire bid (not mine) on the format, without actually evaluating the game itself. A bit stupid imo.
There's no stupid method to vote on bids. Even random.org is acceptable


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 27, 2017, 01:35:09 PM
There's no stupid method to vote on bids. Even random.org is acceptable
...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 27, 2017, 02:21:42 PM
Kinda funny that this bid got no voted before


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 27, 2017, 04:06:39 PM
Voted No because this game was too similar to Rivals, and tbf, Rivals seemed like a mess. Two opposite town teams both trying to get wolves and not kill CoC..it just wouldn't work out imo in terms of winners and all.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 27, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
Anyway, voted no as there are a lot of possible winners


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 28, 2017, 09:11:28 AM
Didnt you vote yes?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 28, 2017, 09:44:49 AM
Let's just not no the games for being team games.
He said he voted fairly, not necessarily in favour


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 28, 2017, 09:49:07 AM
I'm gonna switch my vote to no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 28, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
I'm gonna switch my vote to no.
P
R
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O
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Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 28, 2017, 10:33:05 AM
because I'm lying, yeah

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2uyj04n.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 28, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
because I'm lying, yeah
I didn't say you were lying but those are the rules lmao


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on June 28, 2017, 11:13:02 AM
Didnt you vote yes?
No, I just said being a team game is a bad reason for voting no

partially because I am planning to bid a team game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 29, 2017, 06:54:41 AM
The Master's Gameshow will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: The Heist

In this game, the goal is a little different. The aim is to have as much Gold at the end of the game as possible. Once one team is fully eliminated, the game ends, and the team with the most gold wins.

Each team starts with 20 gold - 5 for each player on the team. Every night, the team is allowed to change which player has what amount of money - one player can hold all of the gold if the team wants. No changing at day
When someone dies, the person that killed them is given the dead persons gold.
When someone is lynched, their gold is moved to the bank.

Once per game, each team is able to Rob the Bank (Night only). At the start of the game, one person will be delegated, randomly, as Heist Leader, along with their normal role. If this person dies, someone else will be assigned the role. The Heist Leader can than decide to rob the bank, as long as there is 3 out of 4 approvals within the team. Robbing the bank will get you 50% of the Gold that is in it. I'd 2 teams rob the bank on the same night, each team will get 25%, if 3 teams do, they will get 16.5%~ each, if 4 teams rob the bank on the same night, they will get 12.5% each, and if all 5 teams rob the bank on the same night, each team will get 10% of the banks money.

Red Team

Red Vigilante
Red Seer
Red Guardian
Red Warden

Blue Team

Blue Vigilante
Blue Seer
Blue Guardian
Blue Warden

Green Team

Green Vigilante
Green Seer
Green Guardian
Green Warden

Purple Team

Purple Vigilante
Purple Seer
Purple Guardian
Purple Warden

Black Team

Black Vigilante
Black Seer
Black Guardian
Black Warden

The Warden will also be able to check the bank - if anyone robs the bank the night they check it, they will be notified of the Heist Leader of that team.

Vigilantes have 2 Shots, but can only kill on even nights (to make sure the game doesn't end to quickly)

Colours will not be revealed upon death, so that it is harder for each team to keep track of the gold the other teams have.

There will be no prompt at the beginning of the day to say if the bank was robbed.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 07:14:29 AM
Voted no because:
-Every team has the same roles
-Unnecessary gimmick for a 5 team game
-The gimmick will just make nights too long


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 29, 2017, 07:29:00 AM
Interesting gimmick, lots of potential; it's a pity it had to be used on a team game when there were already more than enough team games recently played. I think enough reasoning have been given as to why team games just aren't the way to go..

Also, I was on my phone so the Yes vote was an accident.

(http://i.imgur.com/Td9A2FW.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 29, 2017, 07:56:34 AM
Voted no because:
-Every team has the same roles
-Unnecessary gimmick for a 5 team game
-The gimmick will just make nights too long
so after complaining about teams having unfairly balanced roles, people now complain when teams have balanced roles
Logic


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 29, 2017, 07:57:58 AM
Interesting gimmick, lots of potential; it's a pity it had to be used on a team game when there were already more than enough team games recently played. I think enough reasoning have been given as to why team games just aren't the way to go..

Also, I was on my phone so the Yes vote was an accident.

(http://i.imgur.com/Td9A2FW.png)

I had the idea for this bid ages ago. I didn't make this recently. If it has potential, then I would appreciate any other ideas for how it could be used.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 08:47:04 AM
so after complaining about teams having unfairly balanced roles, people now complain when teams have balanced roles
Logic
If you could dig up a post I made complaining about team games having unfairly balanced roles, hit me up


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 29, 2017, 09:11:06 AM
So anyways, seeing how many people seem to want something like this, I can suggest a few tips for bidding.

It's not really a matter of trying to make a complicated bid and placing it on the poll. It's a matter of looking around and seeing what others want by looking at voting patterns as of late.

I don't mean to be discouraging, but, if you are planning on bidding a team game or creating a bid with a team game, don't do it if you see that many people are voting No because it's a team game, even if people say that people shouldn't do that. You can always bid a team game if you see that people are starting to talk about how there are too many standard mafia games waiting to be played..

If the queue is in desperate need of bids or games to be played, a bid like RTBM's previous bid could suffice just because of the urgent need for a game to be played. If there are lots of bids on the queue to be played, and lots of bids waiting to be placed on the poll, I wouldn't recommend submitting something that might just be like "Classic".

I would also advise sending your bid to one or two other players if you want good advise. (It's also certainly good to not get anyone help and place a bid up there on your own to see how you can do yourself on the polls) I'd say anyone who has gotten any bid approved due to the new bidding poll topic would be a good go-to person. However, sending it to too many people can cause lots of conflicts, and you can't make a bid perfect for everyone.

Hopefully this helps, in case anyone is interested in bidding!

Also, I PMed you some stuff. You can hit me up with a response instead of stalling it. @Symphony


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 29, 2017, 09:13:53 AM
I think this bid would be better with 4 teams of 4
The main problem I see is that everyone has the same goal, but it's a goal that doesn't have much to do with other players. They will just be trying to keep the game going longer, which will cause the game to drag.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on June 29, 2017, 09:48:22 AM
If you could dig up a post I made complaining about team games having unfairly balanced roles, hit me up
'People' not 'Lenny' I responded to you because it was linked to a point I was making.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 10:39:45 AM
'People' not 'Lenny' I responded to you because it was linked to a point I was making.
fair enough
So anyways, seeing how many people seem to want something like this, I can suggest a few tips for bidding.

It's not really a matter of trying to make a complicated bid and placing it on the poll. It's a matter of looking around and seeing what others want by looking at voting patterns as of late.

I don't mean to be discouraging, but, if you are planning on bidding a team game or creating a bid with a team game, don't do it if you see that many people are voting No because it's a team game, even if people say that people shouldn't do that. You can always bid a team game if you see that people are starting to talk about how there are too many standard mafia games waiting to be played..

If the queue is in desperate need of bids or games to be played, a bid like RTBM's previous bid could suffice just because of the urgent need for a game to be played. If there are lots of bids on the queue to be played, and lots of bids waiting to be placed on the poll, I wouldn't recommend submitting something that might just be like "Classic".

I would also advise sending your bid to one or two other players if you want good advise. (It's also certainly good to not get anyone help and place a bid up there on your own to see how you can do yourself on the polls) I'd say anyone who has gotten any bid approved due to the new bidding poll topic would be a good go-to person. However, sending it to too many people can cause lots of conflicts, and you can't make a bid perfect for everyone.

Hopefully this helps, in case anyone is interested in bidding!

Also, I PMed you some stuff. You can hit me up with a response instead of stalling it. @Symphony
lmao
Step 1: -Make a normal game
Step 2: -PM it to 10 people


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 29, 2017, 03:03:30 PM
Quick question, what is the consensus on 2 team Video-Games-style team games? I would think they would be held in higher regard than regular team games due to the teams being generally more balanced and one team having a majority in most cases (which enables actual strategic lynching), but I'd like to know what people think.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 29, 2017, 03:27:01 PM
well
i mean
VG was fun
but
the lynch was basically controlled by the majority team after Day 1 :/


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
Quick question, what is the consensus on 2 team Video-Games-style team games? I would think they would be held in higher regard than regular team games due to the teams being generally more balanced and one team having a majority in most cases (which enables actual strategic lynching), but I'd like to know what people think.
I would prefer a 3 team game as 2 teams ends up in majority rules


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 29, 2017, 03:31:05 PM
i prefer no team games


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 03:39:11 PM
I would prefer a team game like once every one or two months


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 29, 2017, 03:40:49 PM
our current team game is super inactive
I hope it doesn't kill TWG D:


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 29, 2017, 03:43:48 PM
i prefer no team games


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 29, 2017, 03:57:00 PM
At least read the bid if it's a team game because it might actually work and could've been good if you hadn't been lazy and bore no for every team game
So at least read it even if you're tempted to vote no just because it's a team game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 29, 2017, 03:59:54 PM
At least read the bid if it's a team game because it might actually work and could've been good if you hadn't been lazy and bore no for every team game
So at least read it even if you're tempted to vote no just because it's a team game
I mean, I read it. I am semi-assisting Symphony with another bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 29, 2017, 04:36:00 PM
I mean, I read it. I am semi-assisting Symphony with another bid.
I was just stating that it wasn't related to anyone's convo :p


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 29, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
bidding guide everyone
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24360.0


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 07:10:23 AM
What are the major problems people have with team games? I want to know if it's possible to make a team game which avoids or minimises all of these problems.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 30, 2017, 07:16:54 AM
good team game is an oxymoron


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 07:20:34 AM
That doesn't answer my question.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 30, 2017, 07:21:39 AM
yes it does

you said you want to make a good team game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 30, 2017, 07:22:19 AM
Your question was is it possible, Vinnie answers no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 07:23:10 AM
My question was the sentence that ended with the question mark, as is the case in English grammar. What came after was a statement of my intentions.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 30, 2017, 07:24:41 AM
The main problem with team games is that they never turn out well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 07:25:48 AM
And why do they not turn out well?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 30, 2017, 07:28:37 AM
And why do they not turn out well?

Well, one reason is that most are inactive and involve random lynching with rarely ever any strategy being involved.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on June 30, 2017, 07:28:43 AM
Okay, I'll rectify my statement:

People have been fatigued by team games, there is no possibility of one winning in the bidding poll. Wait for a while (maybe TWG CII), then bid one.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 07:34:43 AM
Well, one reason is that most are inactive and involve random lynching with rarely ever any strategy being involved.
Inactivity is a problem which is generally not caused by the mechanics of the game, but because of laziness. If it is because of the mechanics, it's because the rolelist is bad and gives players nothing to do, not because it is specifically a team game.
Random lynching is also a problem in regular games. However, I can see that it is clearly more of a problem in team games due to no team having a majority in the lynching vote. As far as I can tell, there are two main options. Either have there only be two teams, meaning there will be a majority in most scenarios, or have multiple teams want to kill some of the same people, meaning that they will be able to form a coalition majority.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 30, 2017, 02:44:35 PM
I'm not sure what's happening with KKE
I think we should get a backup host just in case


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on June 30, 2017, 02:51:50 PM
I'm not sure what's happening with KKE
I think we should get a backup host just in case
I audition


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Saburo on June 30, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
I think a TWC Member is most likely to host in case KKE's game comes before her ban ends and she isn't unbanned
Idk depends on who the TWC wants to host if they want a non TWC member tbh I'd volunteer if they want a TWC member it's fine as long as we get a host XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on June 30, 2017, 03:06:00 PM
I volunteer!
Unless thats the 85th game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on June 30, 2017, 03:46:15 PM
KKE said she wants to host the game herself just like how Everilyfel hosted Bomb Scare


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on June 30, 2017, 03:50:27 PM
I think she will be unbanned by the time her game starts anyways.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on June 30, 2017, 05:49:06 PM
if KKE's not unbanned by the time her game comes around I guess we'll just skip over it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on June 30, 2017, 06:13:45 PM
Correct.

Also, are there any other problems people have with team games or is it just lack of strategic lynching?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 01, 2017, 05:44:03 AM
this one has gone pretty dead


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on July 01, 2017, 07:39:41 AM
this one has gone pretty dead
that isn't a fault of the game though


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on July 02, 2017, 08:13:17 AM
I voted no, as this could cause inactivity in TWG, just like the last game caused inactivity.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on July 02, 2017, 11:19:34 AM
lmao that is not the fault of the game, rubbish reasoning


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 03, 2017, 07:03:01 AM
Will update when I wake up, if I have an opportunity.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 03, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
The Heist will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG Bid: Perfection
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any

Any
Any
Any
Any

Notes:
-Every non-gimmick role is fair game to be drawn, except for the Magician Wolf because I hate that role SO MUCH.
-Red Any's are wolves (including Disguised), and Green Any's are town, or independent.
-No duplicate wolves, or blue roles.
-Maximum of 7 blue roles.
-Maximum of 3 independents.
-No guarantee for there to be an independent.
-No 3rd teams (independents are NOT teams).
-I will create no roles for this game.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on July 03, 2017, 04:27:55 PM
the last all any game went pretty badly also
Notes:
-Every non-gimmick role is fair game to be drawn, except for the Magician Wolf because I hate that role SO MUCH.
-Red Any's are wolves (including Disguised), and Green Any's are town, or independent.
-No duplicate wolves, or blue roles.
-Maximum of 7 blue roles.
-Maximum of 3 independents.
-No guarantee for there to be an independent.
-No 3rd teams (independents are NOT teams).
-I will create no roles for this game.
>no duplicate wolves or blue roles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>maximum of 7 blue roles


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on July 08, 2017, 12:25:14 PM
Bump


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 08, 2017, 04:06:28 PM
I'd completely forgotten about this because no one was commenting. Update soon.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 08, 2017, 04:11:29 PM
Perfection, by !!Vinnie927, will be the 89th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Confused Seer
Guardian
Coroner
Wolfsbane
Psycho


Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Confused Wolf
:Thinks they are a human, but they are red, and if they survive to the end, they count towards the wolves. If killed, will be revealed as a wolf.
Mason
Vigilante
Maniac
Amnesiac



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 08, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
Also, more bids pls.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on July 08, 2017, 04:33:23 PM
No because Confused Wolf is essentially a weak Traitor


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 08, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
So wait, what were the issues people had with Traitor?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kangablue on July 08, 2017, 04:56:00 PM
I accidentally voted yes when I meant to vote no, picture proof is the attachment, change my vote if possible, sorry.

So wait, what were the issues people had with Traitor?
I like the real Traitor, but this version of traitor showing up red and not knowing at all is too underpowered, I don't like the role for that reason, I do like Traitor, but having it work this way I don't like.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on July 08, 2017, 04:58:02 PM
Same as shalomblue- I personally don't have any problems with the actual Traitor, but I guess some people do?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on July 09, 2017, 02:12:06 AM
No, confused wolf basically works against the team he wins. Sorry, but no,.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on July 09, 2017, 03:34:12 PM
...that was a troll bid
Can I retract it?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on July 09, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
His plan was to accidentally make the game have the role list from Guys where are we


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 09, 2017, 06:27:52 PM
...that was a troll bid
Can I retract it?
If it was a troll bid, you could've said so while it was on the poll, it was up for nearly a week. As it is, you'll just have to say you can't host it and get someone else to do so.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on July 09, 2017, 06:48:26 PM
I THOUGHT that was a troll bid.

Voted yes for it because the concept sounded hilarious


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 09, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
Confusian will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG ___: The Sun Temple
The humans, while running away from the woves, encountered a Temple. They decided to hide inside it.  Unfortuately, the wolves got them there too.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian – Can guard at too. Are immune from the Sun Lord. After Sun Lord dies they can only guard at night
Cop
Necromancer
Coroner

Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Protector Wolf- Is immune from the Sun Lord, and every night can make another wolf immune for the next day. When the Sun Lord dies they turn into a Brutal Wolf.
Mason

Sun Lord- Same as Sun God, but can kill EVERY day. Beats all if makes it to the end
Stranger
Thief


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on July 09, 2017, 08:09:17 PM
...that was a troll bid
Can I retract it?
But... You didn't make it. I did.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on July 09, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
If it was a troll bid, you could've said so while it was on the poll, it was up for nearly a week. As it is, you'll just have to say you can't host it and get someone else to do so.
I was inactive for the entire voting period


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 09, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
As it is, you'll just have to say you can't host it and get someone else to do so.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 10, 2017, 07:13:15 AM
KitKatExtreme has requested that I host TWG LXXXVII: Working Abilities, assuming she is unable to do so.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 10, 2017, 07:17:53 AM
Also humans are underpowered in this bid, there are 4 wolves with good abilities, 2 independents which can together raise the total of wolves to 6, and an independent which can kill at the same frequency as the wolves, while also having the easiest of the three main win conditions.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 10, 2017, 11:02:34 AM
Didn't even use bidding  ::)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 14, 2017, 07:00:13 PM
since im unbanned
i will host working abilities after Choosing Sides since me and nick had a perfect convenient switch


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 17, 2017, 07:01:22 AM
wow this bid has been up for a long time.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 07:29:27 AM
Sorry, I got sidetracked with the current game.
Update soon, I recommend Tin makes some nerfs to the Sun Lord to give humans more of a chance.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 07:33:31 AM
The Sun Temple, by Tin, will be the 90th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: The Demon Within

Human
Human
Human
Normal Demon
Traitor
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Apprentice
Guardian
Necromancer
Sniper (from Rock Frontier)

Shaman Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Brutal Demon

Maniac
Amnesiac

notes:
- I will not make any new roles to the game for now.
- Story coming soon either way.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 17, 2017, 07:35:12 AM
What's with the lack of roles though?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on July 17, 2017, 07:41:42 AM
Remove the Traitor, and add another human role instead.

Then 16 roles will work out.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 18, 2017, 02:44:57 AM
well since there was one Day shift in the current game to take like 3 IRL days and this game doesn't seem like it will end soon..i don't think i can host in time and neither can Nick.

communication MIGHT have to start after


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 06:07:03 AM
I haven't voted yet but
I'd say yes IF there's no traitor


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on July 19, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hxPaIMB.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 19, 2017, 09:30:50 PM
noice


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 20, 2017, 08:20:09 AM
I want a try at hosting at an available spot.

Would this be a good idea? 21 so far.. Which one should I remove entirely?


TWG XCblahblahblah : Shadows from the past

Location: Far into a natural cave...
Special things: Shifts are amounts of time, since everyone lost track of time outside. You can sleep during one shift, but you are forced to sleep a shift if you haven't slept in 13 shifts, unless you are a shadow beast, but try to sleep to avoid suspicion.

Rules: If all wolves and humans are killed, Shadow Beasts (except chimpanzees) and Traitors win.
If all wolves and the other two shadows are killed, Shadow Chimpanzees and Humans (except traitors) win!

Role List
Adventurer (Human that has a 50% chance of avoiding attacks)
Blind Human (Can see the shape of Beasts through sound. Ability per every even shift)
Lightbringer (can cast light over the whole area for one shift, however the beasts will disappear. Ability can be used once but is disabled for the first four shifts)
Disguised Wolf

Wolfsbane (Carries heavy armor, making it impossible to die first attack, it is almost impossible to distinguish between Wolfsbane and Packleader, can know who one wolf or shadowbeast is, used only twice.)
Packleader (Carries heavy armor, making it impossible to die first attack, it is almost impossible to distinguish between Wolfsbane and Packleader, can rally wolves to attack one person but not shadowbeasts. Used thrice. Basically an Original Wolfsbane and Psychic combined.)
Seer (Can see the color of a player every even shift. Wolves and Shadow Beasts share the same color)
Priest (Preaches prophecies to everyone. Same as original.)
Swordsman (Goal is to kill all beasts and wolves.)

Dauber Wolf (thrice, original.)
Wolf (Can choose who to kill, can be overridden by Packleader.)
Shaman Wolf (Original)
Runner Wolf (attacks twice, deals killing blow to Wolfsbane.)

Amnesiac Human (Revealed as human all times.. Sorry you weren't lucky enough.)
Amnesiac Beast (Revealed ShadowBeast S10, Choose wisely.)
Amnesiac Wolf (Revealed Wolf S6, The horde is ready)
Amnesiac Sith Lord

Shadow Wolf (Can't be overridden by Packleader)
Shadow Chimpanzee (Tries to kill all other beasts and wolves. Only operates every three shifts instead of two.)
Shadow Swordsman (Tries to kill the wolves and humans.)

Traitor Human (Goal is to kill all humans)
Confusion Mage (Turns wolves into humans and humans to wolves for two shifts. Used once, can't affect ShadowBeasts)





  


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 08:21:22 AM
It has 30 roles.....

TWGs are typically 18 roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 20, 2017, 08:22:45 AM
It has 30 roles.....

TWGs are typically 18 roles.

Fixed to 21 roles.. I'd have to delete a role entirely after that.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 06:40:56 PM
TWG: The Bakery

Once upon a time, the host was a bakery. Credits to Leia for KKE the Bak-er-y

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Baker
Wolfsbane
Necromancer

Brutal Wolf
Wolf
Dauber Wolf

Vigilante
Maniac
Thief


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 09:52:15 PM
I feel like there should be a limit for the length of time a bid is up.

i get that there aren't any bids in the queue but there can always be a voting time limit. If I am not mistaken my bid took like 2 IRL days for the poll to end on mine, but there were bids who went over a week (Tin) and this one, if I am not mistaken on the host, last time this host tried to bid, their bid was Yes voted then No voted because it was repolled. It just isn't that fair IMO for some bids to be done in like 2 days while some to take like a week.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
It was No voted both times, IIRC.
Also, there is a bid, I've just been somewhat busy with other things today. Update soon.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 11:13:55 PM
The Demon Within, by Lyka, will be the 91st official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Return of the Circus

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Disguised Wolf
Psycho
Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Warden
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason
Student
Clown
Ring Master
Trapeze Artist- Can paint a player each night, paint lasts one night.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 11:15:40 PM
gee i wonder who bidded this
voted yes because i love the faction

Also, Perfection doesn't have a host.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 21, 2017, 04:19:28 AM
If Vinnie doesn't pick anyone, I'll host


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on July 21, 2017, 04:22:04 AM
Unless the Student was nerfed for good, I would vote no. Sorry.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 21, 2017, 05:06:43 AM
Just give a list of roles it can possibly be
*remembers a certain scientist*


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 21, 2017, 05:44:42 AM
Do you guys want a student nerf because of what I did on prem's game? Lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on July 21, 2017, 06:16:41 AM
No, I believe the student was OP.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 21, 2017, 06:17:54 AM
i wouldn't say it's..really like OP OP
but it's just
there are so many things it can be and
you are basically screwed if it is some role like Scientist or Clairvoyanr which can be hard to expect


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on July 21, 2017, 08:33:51 AM
Totally fine with bringing back the Circus. :)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on July 21, 2017, 10:08:02 AM
If Vinnie doesn't pick anyone, I'll host
I picked Lenny


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 21, 2017, 11:24:45 AM
I picked Lenny
He can't host as his bid is next to yours.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on July 21, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
He can't host as his bid is next to yours.
Change the game order so there is a game inbetween, it's not that hard


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on July 21, 2017, 12:57:27 PM
Switch Communication and Catchphrases
move Tin's/Lyka's game before Catchphrases as well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on July 21, 2017, 03:06:51 PM
No, I believe the student was OP.
Ok I can just switch it to Amnesiac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 27, 2017, 09:36:35 AM
So what's the deal with the game after next? Will it be Catchphrases or Communication or what?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 27, 2017, 09:42:29 AM
Why is Catchphrases so far back :/

Thats the one I really wanna play


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 27, 2017, 09:45:44 AM
What about Perfection though?

Vinnie bidded it, but it was a troll bid. However, people want to play it. Should we just cancel the game or what?

I say we should have Wheatley host it. He hasn't hosted in like, over half a year.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 27, 2017, 09:52:23 AM
I probably need to start work on SFTP, since the role list is only the start.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: The Real Alien on July 27, 2017, 09:52:27 AM
Vinnie chose me to host perfection


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 27, 2017, 09:53:05 AM
Wait so
I assume it will be


Working Abilities --> Communication --> Sun Temple --> Perfection --> Catchphrases


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 29, 2017, 08:48:35 AM
so...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 29, 2017, 08:50:33 AM
no one sent in bids


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 29, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
Whats a bid again?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 29, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
a potential TWG game that you create
in order for it to be played, you have to send it to Wheatley and have it go through the bidding poll topic to see if people want to play it or not through the poll


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
no one sent in bids
I did


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on July 29, 2017, 02:13:00 PM
I don't think SFTP went through.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on July 29, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Return of the Circus, by Leia, will become the 92nd official TWG. Congratulations!

Next bid:
TWG: Spell Factory


Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian- Guards at day too, but not from lynching.
Necromancer
Wolfsbane

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason
Maniac/Masochist/Amnesiac (a public poll will decide this)
Sun Lord
Mason
Spell Caster- Has a stock of 6 spells (look at spoiler). Can use 1 spell every night, must use at least 1 heal or rage by night 3. Wins with whatever side the first player who got healed, or raged is.
1xLightning spell- Summons a lightning storm that will kill a player of choice and whoever visits.
2x Heal Spell(heal spell) protects a player of choice from attacks for the current night and the following day (also protects from lynching).
2x Rage Spell Angers a player of choice
allowing them to kill someone else.
1x Freeze SpellFreezes a player of choice and everyone who visits them preventing them to do any night action they have for that night.
PS: Spell caster is immune to ALL spells. (he can still lightning himself, killing all visitors, but he wont die, same goes for freeze and its freezing effects, he also can't heal or rage himself.
Working abilities gimmick is back! 3 humans (mason and disguised included) gain an ability n1, 3 more n2, and 2 more n3
- Autopsy: Sees colors of ONE dead player killed at NIGHT (will see the color of player’s choice - if multiple people die in a night)
- Justice: One bullet
- Faithful: Sees who their target visits
- Hostile: Kills anyone who visits but only given one chance for this alert
- Demonic: Can kill someone when lynched
- Insomnia: Will know everyone who visited them for that night


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 29, 2017, 04:06:04 PM
I love it :)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on July 30, 2017, 03:37:26 AM
No. This bid has a lot of potential but it has a lot of killing roles which would ruin the game: wolves, Sun Lord, Spell Caster and Justice, Hostile and Demonic abilities, as well as a potential 4th killing role if Maniac or Masochist wins the poll


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 30, 2017, 06:49:41 AM
Idk what's the votes but if it makes through on letting kke or wheatley host it since I'll be busy with college. (probably wheatley since it's been a while since he hosted a game)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on July 30, 2017, 08:02:42 AM
1) I think that it should be the spell caster OR the working abilities gimmick, but not both
2) What are the winning conditions of the spell caster?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on July 30, 2017, 08:30:33 AM
2) What are the winning conditions of the spell caster?
With the faction of the first player they healed or raged.

I think the bidder wanted to combine Magicus Extremos, Choosing Faction and Working Abilities.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 30, 2017, 08:30:39 AM
1) I wanted to try a wild idea k
2) last sentence of his description


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on July 30, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
gee, I wonder where you got the spells from


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on July 30, 2017, 01:00:56 PM
XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 04, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
Spell Factory will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Life and Death
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Wolfsbane
Psycho

Wolf
Arctic Wolf
Psychotic Wolf
Mason
Vigilante
Maniac
Amnesiac


Twist:Some non-killing night roles can continue their abilities after they die. That means that for example, a Seer can continue their seering when they're dead, so if the Necromancer revives them, they have more info. This will also be the case for the Arctic Wolf and it's revivee.
List of Roles that can continue after death:
Seer:Can check living people.
Guardian:Can save a living player, like they did when they were alive.
Psychotic Wolf:Can psychotize living people.
The dead cannot PM the living unless they are revived.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 04, 2017, 10:28:43 PM
The Arctic wolf thing doesn't make that much sense because there's no wolf roles that provide useful information to the wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 04, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
Doesn't the Arctic Wolf's target count as a wolf to the human:wolf ratio? That's what it was useful for in its original game.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 04, 2017, 10:49:14 PM
Doesn't the Arctic Wolf's target count as a wolf to the human:wolf ratio? That's what it was useful for in its original game.

Right, forgot about that


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 05, 2017, 02:49:21 AM
depends what version of the psychotic wolf it is, and even so it needs a nerf. Especially if it can do it after death. That role ruined my game.

I know the bidder likely didn't know what was going on in the previous game, so no offence, but it's a no for now.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on August 05, 2017, 03:04:42 AM
I vote no due to Cosmic's reasons.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 05, 2017, 03:55:32 AM
I reckon just replace Psychotic Wolf with Wolf Shaman or something like that and it'd be good to go. Wolf Shaman would work better with Arctic Wolf too.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on August 05, 2017, 08:14:05 AM
Okay. I will say that I am the person who made this.
depends what version of the psychotic wolf it is, and even so it needs a nerf. Especially if it can do it after death. That role ruined my game.

I know the bidder likely didn't know what was going on in the previous game, so no offence, but it's a no for now.
I made this bid before the game started.
I will replace Psychotic Wolf with Wolf Shaman if this gets in.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on August 05, 2017, 08:26:01 AM
Imo the wolves need some sort of block against the dead people


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 08, 2017, 01:00:04 AM
Life and Death will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Werewolves in SPACE!

Gimmick: There is a limited oxygen supply of 100 oxygen units. At the end of each day/night, the amount of oxygen units decreases by the amount of players alive during that period. If the amount of oxygen goes below zero, the game ends with the alien winning.

Also: The gimmick from Blackout is back. Town members can lynch up to 3 people in a single day, but for every extra player lynched, the wolves get another kill the next night.

Also Also: If oxygen runs out and both the Alien and the Infected Human are dead, everyone loses.

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Infected Human - If the Alien is lynched, will become an Alien in their place, but will not have the abilities of the original Alien. Cannot be lynched. Thinks they're human.
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Mercenary
Cop
Coroner
Wolfsbane
Scientist - Each night, can choose if they want to restore some oxygen. If he chooses to do so, one oxygen unit will be restored for every 2 players excluding the alien, rounded down. Cannot restore more than 15 oxygen units over the course of the game.
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Dauber Wolf - Paint can be applied 3 times, lasts 3 nights
Mason
Amnesiac
Alien - 3 times in the game, can revive any dead player. Players revived by the Alien use up two times more oxygen than usual. Can choose his colour Night 1, but cannot change his colour past then. If inactive, will be automatically assigned the colour red. Doesn't need oxygen. Night immune. Wins if oxygen runs out.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 08, 2017, 01:03:15 AM
This is interesting
I would like to play this


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on August 08, 2017, 02:22:44 AM
I'll vote yes because it's new
even tho i wont have time to play


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on August 08, 2017, 07:01:50 AM
I love this game. Only problem I see is Cop + Psycho seems a little OP for humans.

Other than that, excellent game. Voted Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 08, 2017, 07:02:48 AM
I don't think blackout gimmick is necessary, otherwise nice gimmick


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 08, 2017, 07:06:03 AM
BTW, no bids on queue. If you have any ideas, see if you can turn them into bids.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on August 08, 2017, 07:31:50 AM
This is unique. Voted yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on August 08, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
I don't think blackout gimmick is necessary, otherwise nice gimmick
The Blackout gimmick is probably so that more people will die, so there is less oxygen used.
Also, if the Alien is dead and the Infected human is not dead, and the Alien wins, is it just the original alien that wins? The new one? Both?
Also, does the Infected human win if the alien is still alive and wins?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 08, 2017, 07:20:14 PM
I love this game. Only problem I see is Cop + Psycho seems a little OP for humans.

Other than that, excellent game. Voted Yes.
There is no Psycho


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 08, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
The Blackout gimmick is probably so that more people will die, so there is less oxygen used.
Also, if the Alien is dead and the Infected human is not dead, and the Alien wins, is it just the original alien that wins? The new one? Both?
Also, does the Infected human win if the alien is still alive and wins?
Alien cannot win if dead, same as any other Neutral Biased.
Infected Human is considered a regular human on the human team until the Alien dies. If the Alien never dies, the Infected Human never becomes an Alien.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on August 08, 2017, 07:42:23 PM
There is no Psycho
nvm i'm drunk i read wolfsbane as psycho for some reason


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 08, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
It was Psycho in the last version I think, but I changed it for this version.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 09, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
Bids pls


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 09, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
nvm i'm drunk i read wolfsbane as psycho for some reason
I'm calling the Windsor authorities for underage drinking.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 09, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
I love how Prem is just secretly stalking the TWG board and happens to notice the Penguin post over any other post.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 10, 2017, 02:58:33 AM
I love how Prem is just secretly stalking the TWG board and happens to notice the Penguin post over any other post.
ship em'


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 10, 2017, 05:17:14 PM
ship em'

No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 10, 2017, 06:37:07 PM
I love how Prem is just secretly stalking the TWG board and happens to notice the Penguin post over any other post.
He needs to stay safe!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 10, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
Premmy it's okay


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on August 10, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
I need to stay safe too I just literally walked right into a building of 1000 danger signs in who knows where


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 11, 2017, 03:07:01 AM
Premmy it's okay
I don't go by "Premmy", thank you.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 11, 2017, 03:14:31 AM
Bids pls


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 11, 2017, 05:11:28 AM
some of the hosts should be edited underneath the Successful bids spoiler


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 11, 2017, 05:31:00 AM
Fixed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 11, 2017, 05:31:44 AM
So wait, what are we doing with Communication? Repoll?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 11, 2017, 05:33:08 AM
cancel it imo


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 11, 2017, 06:43:57 AM
yeah, it's not a good bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 11, 2017, 07:44:19 AM
Considering there was voter fraud, bleep that bloop


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on August 11, 2017, 09:13:16 PM
voting is now clear. There doesn't seem to be any other clear opinion. WIS gets passed to the next list of TWGs.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 11, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
I was waiting for bids. And I've received one just now, so update soon.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 11, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
Werewolves in SPACE!, by Wheatley (hey, that's me!), will be the 92nd official TWG. Congratulations, me!

New bid:
There are so many time periods and the english language has evolved with it.
This is why we need

TWG
TIME
PERIODS!
Each town member has to speak in the tounge of a time period such as the 80's or   in old timey shakespeare english!
Its a pretty regular old bid but its gonna be hilarious

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Mason

Seer
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Transporter

Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Wolf
Brutal Wolf

Amnesiac
Cronie
Fool



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 11, 2017, 09:25:13 PM
well uh
town is screwed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 11, 2017, 09:32:47 PM
why two regular wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 11, 2017, 10:15:06 PM
why transporter

And I'm not much good at old English


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on August 12, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
No because while Catchphrases is very entertaining, it's more of a one time thing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: noname on August 12, 2017, 07:02:27 AM
There's a typo in the bleepin title


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 12, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
I JUST REALIZED XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on August 12, 2017, 07:07:05 AM
What cronie do


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 16, 2017, 02:36:43 PM
I wonder if I am the only one who purposely says the title like as if "tounges" rhymes with "lounges" just because of the typo. IDK, random thought that I just wanted to put out there for absolutely no good reason.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 19, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
New bid:
TWG: Pathological Lying

Once upon a time there was a town, a town with werewolves, humans, and more. Some like to lie about who they are. Others are truthful.

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Coroner
Necromancer
Wolfsbane

Brutal Wolf
Eidetic Wolf - wolf version of the insomniac
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Pathogen - selects a target and chooses any color (green, red, blue, black) to remain as on Night 1. This target will now be infected with the pathogen’s curse. The curse spreads to anyone who visits or is visited by the target. Nothing happens when people are cursed, but they will be notified. After at least 60% of the players are cursed, the Pathogen is able to kill up to 2 people. From there on out, the Pathogen beats all if it makes it to the end. The Pathogen itself also counts as part of the 60% by default. (the percentage is only tentative, I might change it depending on what people think)
Cheater
Amnesiac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 19, 2017, 02:11:58 PM
Well if people know when they are cursed, they will just say and it's easy enough to work out who started the curse, therefore reducing the chance of the Pathogen winning by white a lot


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 19, 2017, 02:14:02 PM
Well if people know when they are cursed, they will just say and it's easy enough to work out who started the curse, therefore reducing the chance of the Pathogen winning by white a lot
I can always just change it so that people do not know if they are cursed or not, but the public will know how many people are cursed. How would that sound?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 19, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
Sounds good.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 20, 2017, 01:45:11 PM
Pathogen - selects a target and chooses any color (green, red, blue, black) to remain as on Night 1. This target will now be infected with the pathogen’s curse. The curse spreads to anyone who visits or is visited by the target. Players will not know if they are cursed. However, at the start of each day, the number of people cursed out of the total number of players will be displayed. After at least 60% of the players are cursed, the Pathogen is able to kill up to 2 people. From there on out, the Pathogen beats all if it makes it to the end. The Pathogen itself also counts as part of the 60% by default. (the percentage is only tentative, I might change it depending on what people think)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 20, 2017, 03:43:58 PM
much better, more balanced. Good idea.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on August 20, 2017, 07:07:50 PM
No because while Catchphrases is very entertaining, it's more of a one time thing
:(


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on August 20, 2017, 07:09:35 PM
idk it still feels slightly OP, would it make sense to have the Pathogen as a set color? Otherwise, it's just a wild chase to figure out who the Pathogen is seeing how there isn't a way to track it at all


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 20, 2017, 07:10:11 PM
idk it still feels slightly OP, would it make sense to have the Pathogen as a set color? Otherwise, it's just a wild chase to figure out who the Pathogen is seeing how there isn't a way to track it at all
I could start a poll about that as well, if this makes through.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on August 20, 2017, 07:10:29 PM
Okay, accidentally voted no, when I meant it as yes.

ugh bah gawd here goes my damnabble eyesight


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 20, 2017, 07:14:14 PM
Just asking, do all of you feel fine about the 60% rule?
I know it's done like 100% in ToS, but that's because literally almost every role is capable of visiting.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 20, 2017, 07:15:06 PM
Pathological Lying, by KitKatExtreme, will be the 93rd official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Revolution

Gimmick: Instead of your typical Mafia, Town, and Neutral TWG, this game will have a small twist. The roles with sort of be in the layout of a standard TWG, except, there will be no town and wolves. Instead, there will be the Proletariat and Bourgeoisie, as well as Neutral. The Bourgeoisie are a group of 4 randomly selected players who know each other and serve like the “wolves” or bad players of this game. Everyone else is either a Neutral or a Proletariat. The Apprentice and Guardian cannot be a part of the Bourgeoisie. The Bourgeoisie just function like wolves (kill every night), but they can be any role besides the ones specifically stated that they cannot be. However, one of the Bourgeoisie has to be a Human.

Human - one must be Bourgeoisie
Human
Human
Human
Human

Apprentice - can see players as either Guilty or Innocent or Neutral, must be proletariat
Guardian - must be proletariat
Politician
Insomniac
Disguised - Appears innocent if chosen as Bourgeoisie, otherwise will just appear as Neutral
Hypnotizer - 3 times per game, can choose a player to hypnotize. This player does the opposite of their role (i.e Seer->Fail Seer, Guardian does nothing) Must be bourgeoisie
Security - Protects someone each night. If that person is attacked, Security dies instead.
Bane - pretty much the wolfsbane but there aren’t any wolves
Gunsmith - Proletariat version OR Cop - Bourgeoisie version

Fool
Undecided
Amnesiac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 20, 2017, 07:16:44 PM
I helped the bidder work on this a bit after this game is based on a past idea that wasn't going to work out that well, and I think it is a really creative bid. We should try more new things like this, so it's a Yes from me.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 21, 2017, 06:02:04 AM
>implying a proletarian revolution is good


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 21, 2017, 08:13:23 AM
For the revolution!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on August 21, 2017, 02:38:04 PM
yay im the 10th vote :p
@KKE
can the Patho thing kill twice each night or in total? Also does he add up a 1 to the numbers that are shown each day? i guess yes, and does the curse continues after he's ded? I think it would be better to leave it on, but reaching 60% won't do any difference, just to let the town confoosed wheter he's ded or no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 21, 2017, 03:30:14 PM
yay im the 10th vote :p
@KKE
can the Patho thing kill twice each night or in total? Also does he add up a 1 to the numbers that are shown each day? i guess yes, and does the curse continues after he's ded? I think it would be better to leave it on, but reaching 60% won't do any difference, just to let the town confoosed wheter he's ded or no
1. It can kill twice overall, but, only ONCE in a night, so it will take 2 nights to achieve that.
2. Yes, he counts as part of the 60%, if that is what you are asking..
3. Uh, that's actually a good question. I think I will leave it on just for the sake of the confusion, but, if a lot of people don't seem to like this idea, then the curse would just end the instant the Pathogen dies. Obviously if the Pathogen is killed after the 60% is achieved, it wouldn't matter though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on August 21, 2017, 04:07:24 PM
for the 3rd one yeah

and well.. let just forget the 2nd question. and thanks for the 1st one :p


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 21, 2017, 10:44:20 PM
I would update the poll, but I don't have any bids to put on.
Send in please.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 23, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
POLITICS


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 23, 2017, 09:31:54 PM
Make TWG Great Again mhmm


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 26, 2017, 01:55:11 AM
I would update the poll, but I don't have any bids to put on.
Send in please.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on August 26, 2017, 09:35:32 AM
Sounds like you need to change the bidding rules to make them more lenient


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 26, 2017, 09:51:51 AM
I would love to have people be able to bid twice but only if there is a set number of days where the BPT does not receive a bid at all, just to keep the poll going and all


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on August 26, 2017, 09:52:45 AM
I would bid but I'm hosting right now
I'm fairly certain that means I can't bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 26, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
you're allowed to!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 26, 2017, 03:13:47 PM
Revolution, by Coach Huzzy, will be the 94th official TWG. Congratulations!

TWG: NOBODY IS STRONGER THAN DONALD TRUMP

There are three teams of 5 in this game, plus an independent role. However, nobody knows who is on who's team.

The Capitalists want to kill the Anarchists, the Anarchists want to kill the Communists, and the Communists want to kill the Capitalists.

Capitalists
GOD EMPEROR Donald Trump: Like the Brutal Wolf, GOD EMPEROR Donald Trump can kill one person if he is lynched, but also if he is killed in any other way (excluding modkills).
GOD EMPRESS Crooked Hillary Clinton: GOD EMPRESS Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Knot Expert.
GOD APPRENTICE Mike Pence: GOD APPRENTICE Mike Pence can check a person for their alliance every even night.
Capitalist: The Capitalist has no special abilities.
Capitalist: The Capitalist has no special abilities.

Communists
Comrade Marx: If anyone from the Capitalists attempts to perform their ability on Comrade Marx, they will be roleblocked.
Comrade Lenin: Comrade Lenin's lynch votes count as triple, meaning his lynches will count as 3 votes.
Comrade Yuri: If Comrade Yuri is killed, he can halt the means of production and allow the next member of the Communists to be killed to survive.
Proletariat: The Proletariat has no special abilities.
Proletariat: The Proletariat has no special abilities.

Anarchists
Anarky: Once in the game, Anarky can create a lawless environment for one day and night where everyone either performs their ability, if they used one, on themselves...or have some other chaotic effects. Description below.
Anarchist #69: Anarchist #69 knows the allegiance of all who die.
Anarchist #420: Anarchist #420 can revive a dead Anarchist back to life.
Anarchist #777: Anarchist #777 has no special abilities.
Anarchist #777: Anarchist #777 has no special abilities.

GOD EMPEROR Donald Trump will kill nobody if he chose someone to kill.
GOD EMPRESS Crooked Hillary Clinton will not be immune to lynching if she is still immune to it.
GOD APPRENTICE Mike Pence will visit himself.
Comrade Marx will roleblock himself.
Comrade Lenin has 3 lynch votes at the start of the day.
Comrade Yuri cannot halt the means of production anymore, so his guarding of the others ends.
Anarchist #69 will learn a random colour instead if someone dies.
Anarchist #420 is unable to revive someone.

Maniac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on August 26, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
this is a joke right

if not does anarchist 420 works like arctic wolf or necromancer because if it worked like necro that wouldn't make sense


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 26, 2017, 03:30:57 PM
Yee, it's mostly a joke. But I'd still love it if it went through XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on August 26, 2017, 03:45:34 PM
"There are three teams of 5 in this game, plus an independent role. However, nobody knows who is on who's team."
And each team has different roles
aka: a joke


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 26, 2017, 05:09:04 PM
What the bleep
I am trying to figure out who made this

I woulda gone with Huz had he not already bid.. :/

Man I have this funny feeling that HentaiViolet did this but I ain't too sure man..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 26, 2017, 05:13:19 PM
What the bleep
I am trying to figure out who made this

I woulda gone with Huz had he not already bid.. :/

Man I have this funny feeling that HentaiViolet did this but I ain't too sure man..
But I said I made it up there.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 26, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
Oh it's you XD Premmmmm

Well you just said it was a joke :/


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on August 26, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
bloody hell


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on August 27, 2017, 03:01:03 AM
Yes, for the lulz


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 28, 2017, 05:56:36 AM
This one, nope


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 28, 2017, 08:13:45 AM
NOBODY IS STRONGER THAN DONALD TRUMP will not be an official TWG

New bid:
TWG:How Is This Supposed To Be Won.
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Wolf


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 28, 2017, 08:16:22 AM
This is how everything is supposed to be done. This is the true way, the real way anyone can ever receive glory from winning a TWG, whether town or not. This is the one and only way. This is how TWG is supposed to be like. With that being said, I am a proud Yes voter, and I fully encourage all of you to vote Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on August 28, 2017, 08:33:15 AM
Woah. I didnt expect this to get votes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Comeback King on August 28, 2017, 08:34:09 AM
Yes I guess


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on August 28, 2017, 08:34:18 AM
Bunch of trolled fools xDD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 28, 2017, 08:38:05 AM
The last one had 10 yes votes too, hmm


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 28, 2017, 11:27:08 AM
NOOOO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on August 28, 2017, 12:39:18 PM
If this does get in,  I will rename it to The True Game.
Why?
It is supposed to be a Werewolf Game. Not a Vigilante Game. Not a Sun God game. A Werewolf game.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 28, 2017, 01:03:20 PM
Also I switch my vote, I don't actually want this to get through, I just voted yes for fun


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on August 28, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
I mean to be fair it wouldn't be that bad if you added 1 or two more wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on August 28, 2017, 01:33:07 PM
Here is the proof. I wish to vote no.

http://imgur.com/ppljKBm


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 28, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
I would like to do the same as well

(http://i.imgur.com/QdlOH7Y.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on August 28, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
If this gets in, it should be a rapid fire game.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 28, 2017, 11:16:13 PM
It's 11-13 to No, would be surprised if it got in now


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 28, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
There are two vote changes which make it 13-11 to No.

How Is This Supposed To Be Won will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: The Bloody River

Human
Human
Human
Mason
Disguised Wolf
Human (Traitor) - In the Night 1 he has to choose whether he wants to be a human or not. If he answers no he becomes a wolf

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Magician Wolf
Wolf (Traitor) - In the Day 1 he has to choose whether he wants to be a wolf or not. If he answers no, he becomes a human

Insomniac
Angel
Guardian
Hunter - Twice in the night he can kill someone
Fisher - Twice in the night he can guess which one of the wolves may be. If he guesses correctly he is safe. But if he guesses wrong he dies.
Camper - Once in the night he can protect two people from being wolved on his shelter. His ability is activated after Night 2.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 28, 2017, 11:20:41 PM
Note: This bid isn't ironic, as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 28, 2017, 11:23:39 PM
voting no because there will literally be 6 wolves after Night 1.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 28, 2017, 11:24:55 PM
Then 7 wolves after Night 4, if the game isn't over
Or whenever it is that Magician Wolf becomes active


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 28, 2017, 11:25:47 PM
Oh I didn't even see the Magician wolf
oh dear.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 28, 2017, 11:28:35 PM
I don't think anyone has to explain their vote.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Penguin022 on August 28, 2017, 11:56:26 PM
needs more wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 29, 2017, 12:27:13 AM
more traitors***


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 29, 2017, 01:43:37 AM
What? Was my idea a failure?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 29, 2017, 01:47:10 AM
Plus I should have added that none of the wolves knows who the wolf traitor is unless he wants to stay as a wolf


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 29, 2017, 01:50:18 AM
why would they not stay as a wolf.

sorry storm, but this just isn't gonna work


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 29, 2017, 01:54:10 AM
why would they not stay as a wolf.

sorry storm, but this just isn't gonna work
If the wolf traitor wants to stay as a wolf he is being revealed to the rest of the wolves after Night 2 unless he is dead


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 29, 2017, 01:55:17 AM
too many blue roles, voting no
Thank you


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 29, 2017, 03:12:50 AM
If the wolf traitor wants to stay as a wolf he is being revealed to the rest of the wolves after Night 2 unless he is dead
That's not the point. Do you not understand that 6 (possibly 7) wolves is like, 1/3 of the games players? It would be almost a guaranteed wolf win.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: !!Vinny927 on August 29, 2017, 06:26:35 AM
NOBODY IS STRONGER THAN DONALD TRUMP will not be an official TWG

New bid:
TWG:How Is This Supposed To Be Won.
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Wolf
Best bid since Guys, where are we?

so wait do we vote yes on bids we like or bids we hate, the precedents have greatly confused me


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 29, 2017, 01:59:41 PM
What happened to Archi???


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 29, 2017, 02:03:24 PM
Houston we have a problem..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on August 29, 2017, 02:29:43 PM
should we start sign ups for The Demon Within>


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 29, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
I am not sure
I am sure Archi will probably be on around 9 PM EST or so
That's when he usually comes on
But then he has school

He might come under s new account tho


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on August 29, 2017, 02:32:31 PM
start sign ups. if archi returns, then it doesn't matter and we do them later.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on August 29, 2017, 02:32:59 PM
He might come under s new account tho
That's even worse


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 29, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Just let Lyka do a back up sign up topic for now
Until Archi returns...if he does


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 31, 2017, 10:00:32 PM
The Bloody River will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG XCblahblahblah : Shadows from the past

Location: Far into a natural cave...
Special things: Shifts are amounts of time, since everyone lost track of time outside. You can sleep during one shift, but you are forced to sleep a shift if you haven't slept in 4 shifts, unless you are a shadow beast, but try to sleep to avoid suspicion.

Rules: If all wolves and humans are killed, Shadow Wolf and Traitors win.
If all wolves and the other shadow is killed, Shadow Chimpanzee and Humans (except traitors) win!

Role List
Adventurer (Human that has a 50% chance of avoiding attacks)
Lightbringer (can cast light over the whole area for one shift, however the beasts will disappear. Ability can be used once but is disabled for the first four shifts)
Disguised Wolf

Wolfsbane (Carries heavy armor, making it impossible to die first attack, it is almost impossible to distinguish between Wolfsbane and Packleader, can know who one wolf or shadowbeast is, used only twice. Type of wolf can't be revealed but type of shadowbeast can be.)
Packleader (Carries heavy armor, making it impossible to die first attack, it is almost impossible to distinguish between Wolfsbane and Packleader, can rally wolves to attack one person but not shadowbeasts. Used thrice. Basically an Original Wolfsbane and Psychic combined. If the good psychic uses his ability at the same time the packleader does, there will be a 1d6 for each person. Packleader always wins tiebreakers.)
The good psychic (can be instantly killed by wolves, can still rally wolves to turn against a certain target. If the good psychic uses his ability at the same time the packleader does, there will be a 1d6 for each person. Packleader always wins tiebreakers.)
Seer (Can see the color of a player every even shift. Wolves are red, humans are green/blue, the shadow wolf appears red to the seer, and the chimpanzee blue.)
Priest (Preaches prophecies to everyone. Same as original.)


Dauber Wolf (thrice, original.)
Wolf (Can choose who to kill, can be overridden by Packleader.)
Shaman Wolf (Original)
Runner Wolf (attacks twice, deals killing blow to Wolfsbane.)

Amnesiac Human (Revealed as human all times.. Sorry you weren't lucky enough.)
Amnesiac Wolf (Revealed Wolf S6, The horde is ready)
Amnesiac Sith Lord

Shadow Wolf (Can't be overridden by Packleader or psychic. Shamaned blue, Seered red.)
Shadow Chimpanzee (Tries to kill all other beasts and wolves. Only operates every three shifts instead of two. Shamaned red, Seered blue.)


Traitor Human (Goal is to kill all humans)
Confusion Mage (Turns wolves into humans and humans to wolves for two shifts. Used once, can't affect ShadowBeasts)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 31, 2017, 10:01:48 PM
¿qué?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on August 31, 2017, 10:02:38 PM
What's up with the Amnesiac Sith Lord, that's what I want to know


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on August 31, 2017, 10:03:57 PM
he put it in as a joke i guess


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on September 01, 2017, 05:11:51 AM
It says there are no bids on queue but I sent you one Qazikol?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 01, 2017, 05:29:42 AM
Yeah, I put it in as a joke.

Everything else is serious. I won't be voting for this one, since I think that's unfair.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 01, 2017, 06:03:25 AM
should've fixed the wolf and shadow wolf description. Both the good psychic and the packleader can override the wolves.. but only if they get a higher die roll.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 01, 2017, 06:12:05 AM
Never mind, I'll vote but only to see results.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 01, 2017, 06:12:49 AM
What's up with the Amnesiac Sith Lord, that's what I want to know

I won't tell you where I got the idea of the joke, since it's a major spoiler.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 01, 2017, 06:13:53 AM
Unrelated, but, I don't understand why some people keep saying that they don't vote for their bids and ask others for results. It's obvious that they are lying and I've had users ask me stuff like "Can you show me the bid results?" for their own bids. It's pretty obnoxious because they obviously voted for their own game, like who tf wouldn't?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 01, 2017, 08:47:54 AM
It says there are no bids on queue but I sent you one Qazikol?
Oh, I never update that anymore because there's hardly ever bids on the queue, will remove it in the morning.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 02, 2017, 06:30:49 AM
Oh, I never update that anymore because there's hardly ever bids on the queue, will remove it in the morning.

Shadows of the past will not become an official TWG. Even with the planned host (me) voting yes.

More bids will soon come.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 03, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
This was confusing, not today.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 03, 2017, 09:23:17 PM
I think everyone who cares about the bidding topic has voted. NEXT!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 05, 2017, 03:58:43 AM
Shadows from the past will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: The Rights and the Wrongs

What looks like a boring TWG becomes more interesting when each role gets a moral alignment assigned to them. This moral alignment will influence their abilities, and how the roles interact with each other.

Every role will have their original abilities alongside their alignment's ability.

Human (True Neutral)
Human (True Neutral)
Human (True Neutral)
Watchdog (Neutral Evil)

Seer (Neutral Good)
Guardian (Lawful Good)
Cop (Lawful Good)
Wolfsbane (Chaotic Good)
Psychic (Lawful Neutral)

Wolf (True Neutral)
Disguised Wolf (Neutral Evil)
Brutal Wolf (Chaotic Neutral)
Wolf Shaman (Lawful Evil)

Vigilante (Chaotic Neutral)
Supplier (Chaotic Good)
Maniac (Chaotic Evil)

True Neutral roles do not have any special abilities associated with them.

Lawful
All the Lawful roles (Guardian, Cop, Psychic and Wolf Shaman) believe that the best way to achieve their objectives is to stick with the law and not ruin anything. They all believe that they must stay alive to see their objectives through.

Lawful Good - will be able to go one day without a self-lynch
Lawful Neutral - will survive being lynched the first time
Lawful Evil - will survive the first attack against them

Neutral
All the Neutral roles, excluding the True Neutrals (Watchdog, Seer, and Disguised Wolf), are in between what the Lawful and Chaotic roles think, and are balanced in between working with the law and only for themselves. When necessary, they will have no qualms in messing the system up a bit to help their side win.

Neutral Good - once in the game, can use their ability twice in one night
Neutral Evil - once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them

Chaotic
All the Chaotic roles (Wolfsbane, Brutal Wolf, Vigilante, Supplier and Maniac) have no care for what everyone else thinks of them, and assume all of their visitors to be there for trouble. They will lash out at the first person to visit them.

Chaotic Good - will know the role of the first person to visit them
Chaotic Neutral - will know who the first person to visit them is
Chaotic Evil - will be roleblock the first person to visit them


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on September 05, 2017, 03:59:32 AM
No.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 05, 2017, 04:10:18 AM
So you don't have to cross-reference:

Human
Human
Human
Watchdog (once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them)

Seer (once in the game, can use their ability twice in one night)
Guardian (will be able to go one day without a self-lynch)
Cop (will be able to go one day without a self-lynch)
Wolfsbane (will know the role of the first person to visit them)
Psychic (will survive being lynched the first time)

Wolf
Disguised Wolf (once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them)
Brutal Wolf (will know who the first person to visit them is)
Wolf Shaman (will survive the first attack against them)

Vigilante (will know who the first person to visit them is)
Supplier (will know the role of the first person to visit them)
Maniac (will be roleblock the first person to visit them)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on September 05, 2017, 04:15:34 AM
No.

Why?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on September 05, 2017, 04:25:51 AM
So you don't have to cross-reference:

Human
Human
Human
Watchdog (once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them)

Seer (once in the game, can use their ability twice in one night)
Guardian (will be able to go one day without a self-lynch)
Cop (will be able to go one day without a self-lynch)
Wolfsbane (will know the role of the first person to visit them)
Psychic (will survive being lynched the first time)

Wolf
Disguised Wolf (once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them)
Brutal Wolf (will know who the first person to visit them is)
Wolf Shaman (will survive the first attack against them)

Vigilante (will know who the first person to visit them is)
Supplier (will know the role of the first person to visit them)
Maniac (will be roleblock the first person to visit them)
Thanks!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on September 05, 2017, 06:06:15 AM
Why?
Because it has too many blue roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on September 05, 2017, 06:08:39 AM
Because it has too many blue roles.
5 isn't many lmao
Making up a random excuse huh?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 05, 2017, 12:25:00 PM
This is an interesting concept.

However, I feel like there could be a mason instead of a regular green human, just for the sake of it. The wolves would have no claim room if they happened to be Seered. Also, I just have slight feelings that town might be a bit OP with a Psychic and Cop. Both are essentially town killing if you really think about it..

But that still doesn't prevent me from voting Yes as I believe all of these points here are easily fixable.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 05, 2017, 03:47:32 PM
Or, at least, have watchdog be red.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 05, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
I agree, one of the town aligned roles should be seered red just so Seer isn't too OP. Other than that, I think that the high amount of wolves is good against the high amount of power roles. Yes from me


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 06, 2017, 02:09:50 PM
Sounds cool.

I agree with what KKE was saying, there should be a mason, and the blue seems a bit OP.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 06, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Yes, a Mason what's needed for the current rolelist.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 06, 2017, 03:25:16 PM
The Rights and the Wrongs, bid by Thick Apple, will be the 95th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:

Inspired off the description of the WC3 version.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human


Diseasespreader (Can make a random human a wolf each night. Ability always active as long as he is alive. Can only choose twice. If chosen human dies from werewolf attack on that same night, the ability has no effect.)
Doctor (Tries to predict who the diseasespreader will affect. If guessed correctly, the human will stay normal. If incorrect, the ability will do nothing.)
Doctor



Wolf
Wolf
Wolf
Wolf


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 06, 2017, 03:26:24 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 06, 2017, 03:33:16 PM
Note: This bid is unironic, I think


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 06, 2017, 03:34:11 PM
Unlike my vote


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 06, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
The idea is that for this one I made an interesting concept.. but it'll need a little blander playout to fully test the idea, rather than psycho kills diseaser and all wolves, or psychic uses wolves on diseaser, the end. lets leave.

You get what i'm saying?

No disguises, since there isn't a seer.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 06, 2017, 03:39:15 PM
That's not really how bidding works


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 06, 2017, 03:40:31 PM
So, for starting bidders, I strongly recommend sending your bid over to at least one player who's had at least one bid make it through the poll.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on September 06, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
I mean we already have a doctor and a poisoner so...

I mean apart from that there are def not too many humans

perfect bid

10/10


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 06, 2017, 04:03:10 PM
Okay, Maybe I should do that...

I'll change the rolelist, too.
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason

Seer *made less accurate in this game, has a 90% chance of working.*
Doctor *Tries to predict who gets infected each night., Doctors can use their abilities independently, unlike wolves. Nothing happens if incorrect.*
Doctor

Bounty Hunter *Target is the diseasespreader.. does not know who the diseasespreader is. Wins if diseasespreader is killed by him, otherwise wins with town if diseasespreader is killed differently.*
Amnesiac *if affected by mirror wolf, will target diseasespreader instead.*
Disease Spreader *Infects a random human, infected humans will turn into wolves the day they are infected, can only choose who to infect thrice, wins with wolves*

Disguise Roles are brown.. they are seered/shamaned as told.

Mason (Red to seer, green to shaman.)
Diseasespreader (Green to seer, their exact role is told to shaman.)



Codename Killer/Wolf
Codename Deflector/Mirror Wolf *Roleblocker, except they can deflect any ability right at themselves. Only works if predicted correctly, unless it's amnesiac. Ability can only be used twice. *
Codename Franklin/Mirror Wolf
Codename Shaman/Magic Wolf *seers people like so, can cast storm once, earth once, or fire once. can only use two of the three magic attacks.*

Wolf victory is if all humans are either killed in any way or transformed.

Disease spreader is the gimmick. That's why there's human overload.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 06, 2017, 04:03:48 PM
What a scarcity of blue roles


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 06, 2017, 04:04:49 PM
yeah, I'm trying to make room for the intended gimmick.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 06, 2017, 05:47:18 PM
I'm confused, what alignment is the Diseasespreader in the first place


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 06, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
Independent.. but wins with wolves.. so I would say just a independent biased?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 06, 2017, 08:47:51 PM
If they win with wolves, they're a wolf


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on September 08, 2017, 07:22:35 AM
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 08, 2017, 07:52:52 PM
Diagnosed with disease will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG:Flipline



Customer-Human(+1)
Customer(+2)
Customer(+3)
Georgito:Gentleman(-3)
Guy Mortadello:Disguised Wolf(-2)

Crystal-Seer(+2)
Ember-Guardian(-1)
Hank-Cop(+1)
Chester-Psycho(-3)
Kingsley-Necromancer(Because he revives KCP contestants from FC's to real characters.)(-2)
Maggie-Politician(-1)

Sarge-Brutal Wolf(-2)
Luau LePunch-Wolf Shaman(+3)
Radley Madish-Psychotic Wolf-Targets will know if they were controlled.(+1)
Sarge Fan!-Mason(-1)

Papa Louie-Cheater(cause he cheats other people into their jobs)(+1)
Amnesiac-Does not take number of new role.(-1)
Skyler-Clockmaker


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 08, 2017, 07:54:08 PM
I don't see a point in renaming everything with a standard rolelist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Oofis on September 08, 2017, 07:58:39 PM
I just got back into this game and hardly remember anything about what makes a good TWG, but even I remember that clockmaker sucks.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 08, 2017, 07:59:17 PM
HentaiViolet is that you?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 08, 2017, 08:27:26 PM
tarantado punyeta detected

lol no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: sansaery on September 08, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
i clicked this by mistake :(

it reminds me of TWG: The Forum


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 08, 2017, 09:41:52 PM
lmao I'm the only person to vote yes for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on September 10, 2017, 12:18:01 AM
That sounds good.
Soon I am going to send a new bid called 4:13 pm


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: TotesAngel on September 10, 2017, 09:46:16 AM
why 4:13 when you can 4:20 blaze it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 10, 2017, 11:28:04 AM
Is the savior role-name already taken?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 10, 2017, 01:51:46 PM
this role list works
I would just suggest against the Psychotic Wolf change, now it's essentially a role block, because Invest. roles will never trust their results


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 01:59:26 PM
Change my vote from a No to a Yes to unbreak the tie


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on September 10, 2017, 02:01:17 PM
Change my vote from a No to a Yes to unbreak the tie
Picture?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 02:03:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RmNk3Su.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
Flipline, bid by Jane the Killer, will be the 96th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
Human [-1]
Human [-1]
Human [-1]
Wrathful [0]
Confident [1] - Blue, not guilty. Thinks as a human.
Lunatic [-2] - Red, guilty, but must act like they're crazy otherwise it's a modkill.

Seer [-1]
Apprentice [0]
Guardian [-2]
Wolfsbane [-2]
Veteran - His role resembles the Clockmaker as he can kill someone each night, but is a Town.
Has 3 ammo which is consumed every shot at night. Certain kills of someone will either add his ammo or consume more ammo than usual.

Having 0 ammo after shooting the last target will just give him one last chance of shooting that consumes his life, killing someone that adds his ammo keeps him survive. Having ammo lower than 0 after shooting the last target will just kill him. Unlike the Clockmaker, he has no maximum limit.

Normal Wolf [1]
Brutal Wolf [2]
Disguised Wolf [1]
Cowardly Wolf [2]

Maniac [-2]
Succubus [-3]
Valkyrie [0] - Night 1 protected, but kills two people Night 2. Kills another one at any night. Beats all if she makes it to the end


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 02:09:55 PM
Yes, I believe I worked with this user to help him check through this and I really like the Veteran role. I think it is pretty decently balanced.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
I'm confused by the Lunatic


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 02:14:03 PM
It's just basically the replacement of a Mason but they show up Guilty through Apprentice checks, and I guess, they have to act like a loony somehow


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on September 10, 2017, 02:26:45 PM
how has that bid just been voted yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 02:30:40 PM
HentaiViolet's bid?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on September 10, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
Yeah


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
I mean, it's a playable bid
I didn't want to exactly play it but it kept tying and untying
and I pitied the bidder so..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on September 10, 2017, 02:56:28 PM
Well renaming it is useless and is only an annoyance.

Change the names and it's fine. It will just confuse people


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Nothing stopping anyone from just referring to roles by their original names, not something that needs to be officially changed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 10, 2017, 03:58:42 PM
Qazikol what's the queue list?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 10, 2017, 03:59:19 PM
He removed it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Cosmic on September 10, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
Nothing stopping anyone from just referring to roles by their original names, not something that needs to be officially changed
I know, I just don't see the point In renaming the roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 10, 2017, 04:03:55 PM
Ok fine

Qazikol do you have the game I sent to you some time ago


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 04:05:30 PM
Yes, I've just received quite a few bids recently.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 10, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
Yes, although, question.. Do the numbers count toward the lynch votes? If so, Succubus is blatantly obvious if going to negatives.. and so are cowardly wolves and brutal wolves.



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
No, lynching someone won't count towards the Veteran ammo, just only if the Veteran shoots and successfully killed someone, his ammo will depend. Regularly consumes 1 ammo per shot though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 10, 2017, 05:45:50 PM
No I mean, Does the number to the right of the role count to lynch votes? The brutal and cowardly wolves are blatantly obvious because of their two initial lynch votes?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Their number to the right is basically adding up to the Veteran's ammo once they are killed by him. For example, if a Veteran has 3 ammo, and he has shot the Brutal Wolf, this means he will consume one ammo, which he has 2 left, but add up the number to the right, then the Veteran has 4 ammo.

He has to beware of most of the roles though, if the Veteran does shot a Succubus while he has 3 ammo, consume one then it's 2, and the number to the right will mark him dead, since of the description states, "having ammo lower than 0 after shooting the last target will just kill him".


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 10, 2017, 07:13:01 PM
Oh okay.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 10, 2017, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
1. There can be fixes due to community poll, about the Lunatic.
2. Veteran is indeed Town. Obviously.
3. Succubus will have a huge update once the bid is in.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on September 11, 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Keep lunatic as mason
And i think ik whk the bidder is but will keep quiet


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on September 11, 2017, 01:36:32 AM
I didn't like this bid, don't ask why, I just didn't


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on September 11, 2017, 04:23:43 AM
I didn't like this bid, don't ask why, I just didn't
Why are you even voting? You just vote no on everything possible for random reasons.

"It has 5 blue roles, that's too much. I don't like this bid, I'm voting no."


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 11, 2017, 06:35:51 PM
Lunatic is bad voting no
I mean if you're going to do this you've got to go all or nothing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 11, 2017, 07:13:25 PM
What rolelist should I aim for?

I think one of the problems with SOTP was it had too many factions.

There were independents, humans, wolves, shadow beasts, power roles, and traitors.

Also, the one shadow beast that helped the town were taking longer to attack.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 11, 2017, 07:16:02 PM
And for diagnosed with disease, I had a too simple role list, no power roles except for doctors.

I didn't exactly specify that Diseasespreader won with wolves AND the wolves don't know the diseasespreader, and vice versa.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 11, 2017, 07:55:08 PM
Accidentally voted "NO". Removing my vote.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 11, 2017, 08:52:08 PM
Accidentally voted "NO". Removing my vote.
Screenshot?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 11, 2017, 09:34:43 PM
Screenshot?
Here you go.
(https://i.imgur.com/73E3g8A.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 06:40:42 AM
What gimmick should I have..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 12, 2017, 06:57:16 AM
Come up with a simpler bid, you're aiming too high. Think of a neat idea or two for a new role that doesn't completely alter the nature of the game, but would still make the game unique.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 03:03:22 PM
Maybe something inspired by Crush the castle..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
NVM, what I was thinking about crush the castle has changed the gameplay too dramatically. You can see this anyway.


The Siege Master


You can shift castles, but only for the night. The Wolves attack everyone in the castle but themselves, win conditions for pre-existing factions remain the same.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason


Seer (Wins with town, original)

King (Wins with trebuchet, seered and shamaned blue.)

Vigilante (Wins with town, three bullets, bullets increase by two if wolf is shot)

Amnesiac (Wins with remembered faction, can only remember graveyard roles like in Salem, can revert only by the case of necromancer reviving dead role.)

Necromancer (Has to choose faction, can revive thrice. Black for this game)

Trebuchet master (Has to choose faction to start. Has five iron balls that can crush castles {can only be op'd by trebuchet, can't crush specific people}, can request for a specific number of factions in castle only once, knows the basic amount of people in specific castles {Example: Knows there's 4 people in castle A and 6 people in castle B, but once requested, castle A has 2 towns, 1 power, and 1 neutral, castle B has 4 wolves, 1 neutral, and 1 town.} Can't enter castle. Wins if opposing faction dies.)

Peasant (Wins if 6 castles are standing currently. Can build a castle for a day instead of lynch voting, and if building, randomizes vote instead of getting self-voted.)

Werewolf
Dauber Werewolf
Shaman Werewolf
Brutal Werewolf



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 12, 2017, 03:26:06 PM
BTW, it's a good idea to color code things as how they appear in an actual TWG. Also, keep it to a maximum of 4 alignments (like town, wolves, Independent) but preferably 3.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
The king wins with trebuchet, meaning it wins with whoever the trebuchet aligns to.. I'm going for a simpler bid before I put in The Siege Master.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 12, 2017, 03:30:07 PM
Please sort this out by color/order ^^;


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 03:41:26 PM
the change didn't appear?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 12, 2017, 03:43:23 PM
You should have around 4-5 blue roles in a game
(4 if the town has an OP Role or Gimmick, mostly 5)
3 independents (black)
5 humans (mason included)
1 special Green role
1 disguised wolf
3 red wolves

That's the standard layout for starters if you the best shot of hosting a balanced game!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 12, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
Oh okay.

Codename: Ser coming up.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 13, 2017, 03:02:35 PM
Lunatic Asylum, bid by Lyka, will be the 97th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Locked and Loaded

Backup Gimmick: Both town and wolves will have a “backup” role, which are on opposite sides to the original role. This backup role’s abilities will only come into play once the original role has been killed.

For example, if Town had a Jock, the Wolf's Backup Jock would only be able to use their powers once the Jock died.

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf


Guardian
Cop
Seer
Wolfsbane
Jock 

Town Backup Espionage: If the Espionage dies, they will be able to use the Espionage’s abilities.

Wolf Shaman
Wolf Backup Jock
: If the Jock is killed, they will be able to use the Jock’s abilities.
Espionage Wolf: Chooses someone to see who they visit and who visits them.
Mason

Amnesiac
Monster
Fool



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 13, 2017, 03:21:59 PM
Yay
I like Lyka as a host
Even tho ive never actually live long enough
yes im still salty and I always will be


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 13, 2017, 03:39:14 PM
Yay
I like Lyka as a host
Even tho ive never actually live long enough
yes im still salty and I always will be

that's why i'm gonna give you something special in codename: ser


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 13, 2017, 09:51:39 PM
why not ver or poner?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: -PRoyale- on September 14, 2017, 03:36:45 AM
Idk


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 15, 2017, 07:26:21 PM
I think this is a good idea, and decently creative despite still being relatively simple.

I don't like how this bid seems to be getting a lot of No votes without any reasoning though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 15, 2017, 08:08:31 PM
I'm not sure bout Backup stuff.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 15, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
I voted no. I just don't think the gimmick would fit.

Also, there were no explanations for most of the roles. As someone who is new to TWG, I don't have any idea what the Monster, Amnesiac, or Insomniac roles are.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 15, 2017, 08:22:32 PM
I voted no. I just don't think the gimmick would fit.

Also, there were no explanations for most of the roles. As someone who is new to TWG, I don't have any idea what the Monster, Amnesiac, or Insomniac roles are.
Can reasons like the second not count for a No vote?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 16, 2017, 04:30:38 AM
Also, there were no explanations for most of the roles. As someone who is new to TWG, I don't have any idea what the Monster, Amnesiac, or Insomniac roles are.
But the headquarters are there for that reason. If you look at TWG HQ, all of the roles used in each TWG are explained along with the rules and other stuff about TWG.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 16, 2017, 04:39:26 AM
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35380.0


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 16, 2017, 09:21:40 AM
Oh, didn't realize that the headquarters had all of that. Still, it would be nice to include descriptions for some of the more complicated or lesser-used roles so new players don't have to refer back to the Headquaters.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 16, 2017, 09:28:58 AM
Oh, didn't realize that the headquarters had all of that. Still, it would be nice to include descriptions for some of the more complicated or lesser-used roles so new players don't have to refer back to the Headquaters.
Yeah I tend to add descriptions to lesser known or used roles because personally, even as a HOST I forget my own roles that even I made, or forget what a particular role does and I don't like going back to HQ to recheck and all.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 16, 2017, 06:33:08 PM
I put yes.


The backups don't need questioning.

Basically I questioned my logic to answering without reason

backups = godly


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 17, 2017, 06:25:47 PM
honestly I think every host should explain every role
except for like Humans and Basic Wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 17, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
I would like to agree with Nick here.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Oofis on September 18, 2017, 12:51:38 AM
honestly I think every host should explain every role
except for like Humans and Basic Wolves
Agreeing with this, especially if it works different to the normal version of the role.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 18, 2017, 06:30:10 AM
17 people voting would already be enough?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 18, 2017, 06:55:09 AM
Alright, I knew things can be interesting on this bid.

Changing my vote from No to Yes. Proof later.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 18, 2017, 09:06:52 AM
19 people voted. I think we can move on?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 20, 2017, 03:12:46 PM
I think everyone who cared to vote voted.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 20, 2017, 04:44:14 PM
Qazikol won't update until someone else sends in a bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 20, 2017, 05:31:29 PM
Locked and Loaded, bid by Lu, will be the 98th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
Human
Mason (Disguise human)
Vigilante (Green this time. Shoots 3, gains 1 if fakename wolves are killed.)
Seer (Green this time, gains clues instead of color.)

Not Amnesiac (Set to human as always)
Not Amnesiac (Set to human as always)

Ser (Gains exact role; however, it will be the opposite role, get some minds.)
Priest (Gains two prophecies, the more specific you ask for, the less direct it will be.)
Preach (Immune for the very first three days and three nights to anything except for modkillings. MUST NOT reveal that they are preach for the time they are immune.)
Fireman (Puts out douses, three uses. Seered/Shamaned as orange)

Amnesiac (Original, color coded as in salem.)
Amnesiac
Amnesiac
Arsonist (Original, three uses, color coded as in salem.)

Humon (Disguise Wolf)
Masyn (Wolf)
Vigane (Brutal Wolf)
Skewer (Shaman Wolf)

New voting system has been implemented. Vote by posting your vote, and provide a reason should you vote no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 20, 2017, 05:35:50 PM
No too confusing too many weird factions


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 20, 2017, 05:40:13 PM
No, Ser is OP, Arsonist is UP, 3 Amnesiacs is too many, Not Amnesiacs are confusing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on September 21, 2017, 04:25:24 AM
No the rolelist is too confusing and seer will make the game even more confusing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 21, 2017, 07:14:57 AM
tfw Human is the only role that makes sense
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 21, 2017, 07:32:51 AM
No, the rolelist is confusing, Ser/Seer/Not Amnesiac/Preach make no sense and too many Amnesiacs


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 21, 2017, 08:56:35 AM
No.

The whole thing about the rolelist was confusing, and I couldn't think about advanced mechanics for most.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 21, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
No. A TWG's rolelist shouldn't look like a page of Calculus notes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 21, 2017, 04:30:46 PM
But my calculus notes from less year are less confusing



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 21, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
No, because now the poll is down, I can't vote.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 21, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
No, because now the poll is down, I can't vote.
...I hope this is a joke


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 22, 2017, 07:13:30 AM
It is, Now the poll is down it'll be obvious that the bidder voted.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 22, 2017, 07:20:59 AM
The bidder is anonymous though
And they aren't barred from voting


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 22, 2017, 07:23:45 AM
oh.. Since I accidentally revealed the bidder, I might as well not vote for now.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 22, 2017, 07:30:05 AM
noob dar


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: MariaYuki on September 22, 2017, 07:34:13 AM
No.
It is way too confusing.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: memes on September 23, 2017, 10:14:34 AM
with some tinkering around this is reasonable
buff the arso, get rid of that ser for gods sake, decrease amnesiac count and do something to these "not amnesiacs" seriously WHAT THE HELL DO THOSE DO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 23, 2017, 10:15:25 AM
with some tinkering around this is reasonable
buff the arso, get rid of that ser for gods sake, decrease amnesiac count and do something to these "not amnesiacs" seriously WHAT THE HELL DO THOSE DO

Presumably they think they're amnesiac, until they try to use their ability.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 23, 2017, 03:22:21 PM
I think we have enough votes to conclude that this is a no...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 23, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
Codename: Ser will not be an official TWG.

Werewolves on Rails:

It is 9PM on a Friday evening. The brand new, high speed train line is being unveiled in the city of Megalopington. The train begins its journey out into the country side.

Suddenly, a scream is heard. On one of the seats in the very back of the train, a pool of red is found. The window is open, and blood is dripping down the outside. All of the passengers on the train eventually hear of this incident by word of mouth. As the train is in the middle of nowhere, it cannot stop, and the passengers fear for their lives...

Passenger - just your ordinary, average human.
Passenger
Passenger
Passenger
VIP Passenger - lynching vote counts double, if visited by Politician, counts as four votes
Mason - thinks he's a human, which would be correct, but his color doesn't agree with that

Conductor - just like the seer, finds out one person's color per night; counts as a night action; if conductor and engineer die, wolves automatically win
Engineer - checks one person every night to see if they performed a night action; if conductor and engineer die, wolves automatically win
Train Attendant - role blocks one person every night; counts as a night action
Guardian - protects one person every night from being killed; counts as a night action
Politician - chooses one person each night to get a double lynching vote the following day, including VIP Passenger; counts as a night action

Wolf - votes with other wolves to kill one person each night; does not count as a night action
Disguised Wolf - same as above, but appears green in conductor checks
Wolf Shaman - votes with other wolves as usual, and can check someone's color every night; counts as a night action
Alpha Wolf - votes with other wolves as usual, but it will count as a night action; if roleblocked, wolves don't kill

Oracle - every night predicts who will get killed, if right, gets one point; every day predicts who will get lynched, if right, gets one point; if they get three points, they win; counts as a night action
Hobo - learns the role of every dead person, if lynched or killed, will reveal the role of the last person who died; wins if alive at the end of the game
Graffiti Artist - spray-paints one person blue, red, green, or black every night, paint lasts for one night; wins if alive at the end of the game

Players: 18


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 23, 2017, 06:23:35 PM
Might end up in anyone's majority besides the whole role-list is just a change of names and it somehow make sense, but somehow it is confusing.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 23, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
Yes because TRAINS = BEST ENVIRONMENT IN THE WORL

no jk

I am voting yes, but not because of that reason.

There's no reason to say no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 23, 2017, 06:30:48 PM
Conductor is a reskinned Seer, reskins are overall pointless.
Politician and VIP are ineffective roles that only serve to be confirmed humans, which isn't fun.
Alpha Wolf is just a regular Wolf who gets to be of lower status than the regular Wolf.
This version of Oracle is exploitable and easy to win as.
Hobo and Graffiti Artist have easy win conditions which exempt them from having to do anything.
Roles which end the game immediately if killed are a baaaaaad idea (see: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, TWG XXIX).
Overall, No.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 23, 2017, 07:12:44 PM
Hey cool a train themed bid themed bids are cool
Nice renaming Humans Passengers
VIP Passenger, cool (glad we're turning away from Gentleman being blue)
What's with the lengthy explanation for the Con-
No.

(this means I stopped reading after Conductor because that gimmick is bad)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 23, 2017, 07:15:07 PM
No for pretty much all the reasons listed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 23, 2017, 07:16:27 PM
after reading it, the bid's not anything special
Wolves are a bit OP because they can just sacrifice Alpha Wolf and then they can't be roleblocked (?)
not sure if these independents are biased or not, generally 1 biased per game is good but that might just be my opinion


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on September 24, 2017, 03:32:00 AM
are those independents beats all or wins with all


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on September 24, 2017, 03:59:44 AM
are those independents beats all or wins with all
This^ also if the Seer And the other guy dies makes the wolves automatically win... eh, too OP


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 24, 2017, 09:15:12 AM
Working Abilities, by KitKatExtreme, will be the 87th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Communication
 
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac

 
Seer
Guardian
Wolfsbane
Forger- once in the game, can choose to forge the message of one of the Messengers.
 
Wolf group 1:
Wolf Shaman
Disguised Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger
Wolf group 2:
Magician Wolf- can convert starting from N4
Wolf Messenger- Sends messages to the other Wolf Messenger
Mason



Vigilante
Maniac
Amnesiac
Supplier: Can give another ability usage to the Wolf Messenger/Disguised Wolf Messenger, Seer (check two people in one night), or Shaman. They will win with everyone if they make it to the end, as long as they used their ability
 
Gimmick: The two Wolf groups don't know each other, but they can use the messages to identify each other. The separate wolf groups can talk as much as they want via PMs, but wolf group 1 can only communicate with wolf group 2 via the messengers.
-Wolf Messengers cant say their (or their teammate's) names in the message

I plan on rebidding this when there isn't voter fraud and I don't have queued.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 24, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
Attention players!

Would anyone be interested in being a back-up host for TWG: Pathological Lying? I kind of have been struggling lately with keeping up with school, and as of right now, it isn't really the best time for me to focus on organizing stuff for that when I have a ton of stuff going on both within/outside of school.

Since it's hard to tell what dates these games would fall on, I will allow a back-up host who has to be prepared to host in the event that I can't host. (Seriously though I will be stressed as hell within the days leading up to October 15 and the days leading up to November 1)

Again, sorry for the inconvenience, but I hope you understand. :(

PS - I will also make an exception to allow either Qazikol or Coach Huzzy to serve as a backup if they are interested (first come, first serve) because I kind of really want a backup right now because I am stressed like hell.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 24, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
ok thanks Lu that was quick!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on September 25, 2017, 02:21:41 AM
Aw man
I didn't even get to say I'm interested, lol.
Well my bid may or not be close to yours-that if it gets accepted,  I still do update with some better ideas-


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 25, 2017, 03:26:52 AM
Oh uh, interesting


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 28, 2017, 07:04:05 AM
When I have time tomorrow.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 28, 2017, 07:14:21 AM
Am I allowed to bid after Pathological lying despite havinfTWG c?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 28, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
I would say no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Abu on September 28, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
Unless the bidding is for TWG 99 (or maybe even 98), I'd say it's okay.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 28, 2017, 01:42:20 PM
obviously it's not gonna be before TWG 100 lol
I was asking if I was allowed to bid after Pathological Lying for post-TWG C games



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 28, 2017, 01:52:49 PM
You can't send in a bid if you already have one in the queue, or you have one that is currently on the waiting list to be played.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 28, 2017, 01:55:57 PM
Werewolves on Rails will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat.

GIMMICK: The hacker, The faction who kills the hacker wins.
Thing to notice: Independents aren't colored black.
Thing to notice: Independents are seerchecked as their color.


Human (pff, useless)
Human
Mason (Thinks they're human, red in seer checks.)

Seer (Each night, can know a role-color of a person, the target person won't change when interfered with, only the color.)
Guardian (Every night, the Guardian protects someone of their choice from being killed.)
Cop (x3 bullets, Can only shoot from Night 2 onwards. Dies if shoots a blue role.)
Warden (Can check someone each night to see who visited. In a wolfing, sees only one randomized wolf. Can check themself Night 3 onwards.)
Fireman (Can undouse a person, once each. Can also save a doused person from being ignited, once. Orange in seerchecks, is actually blue in generic use.)

Werewolf (Can attack a person )
Wof (Phase II wolf, attacks separately from the other wolves but to make up for it, can only attack independently once.)
Shaman (Is just like a Seer, but is a wolf.)
Disguise Wolf (Green to a seercheck.)

Not Amnesiac (Initially, they think they're amnesiac. The effect goes away when they try to use ability. Seerchecked Teal)
Amnesiac (Can remember a dead role only, like in salem. can forget their role only once in the game. For this game, it's notified to the public, but the player isn't mentioned. Seerchecked Teal)
Vigilivanite (x3 bullets, Once a night they can kill anyone, wolf or human. Beats all if they make it to the end. Seerchecked Brown)
Hacker (At a night, forces a player to vote a specific person for the next day. They can also direct the seer to themselves once. Can see a random nightrole's message once. Seerchecked Pink)
Arsonist (Arsonist - Every night he can douse one/two people in gasoline. He can choose to ignite instead of dousing anyone. Anyone doused in gasoline will die. Players are informed of being doused in gasoline. Guarding protects people from igniting, but not being doused. If someone who is doused is guarded from being ignited, they are not doused anymore. Wins if he/she is one of 2 people left in the game. Seerchecked orange.)



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 28, 2017, 01:56:27 PM
Remind me to create a bidding guide soon.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: TotesAngel on September 28, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
TOO COMPLEX

MY AUTISM SENSORY SYSTEM HAS SHUT DOWN


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 28, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
GIMMICK: The hacker, The faction who kills the hacker wins.
Voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 28, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
Okay. You should create one now, Qaz, creating guides is good for you and people around you.

Yes.. although (BIDDER) should probably ease on the descriptions, not copy from the HQ but still explain it, and why this: "pff, useless"

And why is this: the target person won't change when interfered with, only the color.

EDIT: apparently the same thing happens when ring master or a to-them-self is in the game, I take that back.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: TotesAngel on September 28, 2017, 02:39:51 PM
i dont like the neon colors D:


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: dar on September 28, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
Okay, I'll request the bidder to change it once the lounge is made... if it even makes it.

Like to black in the lounge but all independents are seerchecked different colors anyway.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 28, 2017, 02:53:16 PM
This game is a mess of colours
The Hacker is a bad gimmick that could end in a 1 Night game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: TotesAngel on September 28, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
voted no because it's painful to look at, and TEAL MAKES EVERYTHING HARD TO READ AUUUUUGH


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on September 28, 2017, 02:54:58 PM
@Chasi you're the bidder
You used the pff useless in the current twg lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: TotesAngel on September 28, 2017, 02:56:29 PM
lmfao humans arent usless we can kick wolf gluteus maximus


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Ataino on September 28, 2017, 02:58:10 PM
@Chasi you're the bidder
You used the pff useless in the current twg lol
BTW this is just a guess


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 28, 2017, 03:42:46 PM
No because

- GIMMICK: The hacker, The faction who kills the hacker wins. > Could end the game n1.
- Not Amnesiac is pointless, who do they end up aligned with?
- Seer is too OP with this many colors
- Wof is just a wolf but has an extra kill? Confusing
- Hacker makes little sense- is their goal to make it to the end? They're their own color, so if seer gets lucky it'll be so easy for town to win.
- Fireman will make it virtually impossible for Arso to win if people just say when they've been doused
- Vigilante is screwed with seer


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 28, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
What the...I could have sworn I thought I was the only one who had this prof pic when I put it on (ok I am aware TSO had it before me but I didn't know the time I set this prof pic)

And now I see half this page with the blueberry thing

I don't think I need to explain my vote...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 28, 2017, 06:11:37 PM
No because

- GIMMICK: The hacker, The faction who kills the hacker wins. > Could end the game n1.
- Not Amnesiac is pointless, who do they end up aligned with?
- Seer is too OP with this many colors
- Wof is just a wolf but has an extra kill? Confusing
- Hacker makes little sense- is their goal to make it to the end? They're their own color, so if seer gets lucky it'll be so easy for town to win.
- Fireman will make it virtually impossible for Arso to win if people just say when they've been doused
- Vigilante is screwed with seer

No, for pretty much the same reasons


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on September 28, 2017, 09:27:17 PM
Reasons stated by someone else, I voted No. Too much cat milk.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 29, 2017, 05:15:46 AM
I think the gimmick is too easy to beat and there are way too many factions which just makes it harder for each faction as they have to beat 2 factions + independants with their separate alignment. The curses seem too OP imo. They literally disable a role. The independants with different colours can easily be found out as they are the only role in their alignment and the seer can just get lucky. So, I vote no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kirby on September 29, 2017, 05:32:52 AM
No
Too complex
Hacker gimmick can ruin the game
Not amnesiac is pointless


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 29, 2017, 07:41:47 AM
These are the biggest mistakes users do in their bids:

1. THEY DON'T ADD ENOUGH BLUES! - Oh please, I've seen bids with only on blue role.
2. Too many independents - 4 max. independents please, not more.
3. Too many factions - Standard mafia games have max. 3 factions, do not add more unless you're making a team game.
4. Too many confusing new roles - Just save some new roles for a later bid, please.

Every bid must have:
Around 3-6 humans, including mason and bomb. You don't need to have bomb but masons are compulsary for seer games. If your game has an investigator/ apprentice and no seer, then no need.
At least 4 blue roles, maximum of 6
Disguised Wolf is a must for games with seer.
16-18 roles


I'm okay with complex games (Lyka's Time, Blackout), but I prefer simple games (Inception of Perception, Rock Frontier).
Nothing wrong with a lot of new roles in my opinion, it's just that new roles are risky because they haven't been used before. More new roles just increases risk


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 29, 2017, 07:44:36 AM
Nothing wrong with a lot of new roles in my opinion, it's just that new roles are risky because they haven't been used before. More new roles just increases risk

What kind of risk?
If the role is properly explained, I see no problem with adding new roles
After all, no one knew ANY of the roles in TWG I


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Faiz on September 29, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
I'm not even sure what this bid is


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 29, 2017, 09:14:48 AM
I'm not even sure what this bid is

lol same


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Raven on September 29, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
@Huz I think my bid's next ;)

I thought the current host couldnt have a bid for judging  ???


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Leia on September 29, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
These are the biggest mistakes users do in their bids:

1. THEY DON'T ADD ENOUGH BLUES! - Oh please, I've seen bids with only on blue role.
2. Too many independents - 4 max. independents please, not more.
3. Too many factions - Standard mafia games have max. 3 factions, do not add more unless you're making a team game.
4. Too many confusing new roles - Just save some new roles for a later bid, please.

Every bid must have:
Around 3-6 humans, including mason and bomb. You don't need to have bomb but masons are compulsary for seer games. If your game has an investigator/ apprentice and no seer, then no need.
At least 4 blue roles, maximum of 6
Disguised Wolf is a must for games with seer.
16-18 roles


I'm okay with complex games (Lyka's Time, Blackout), but I prefer simple games (Inception of Perception, Rock Frontier).
I kind of disagree with a lot of this, I've been in quite a few purely vanilla games that have been crazy fun. Masons aren't always compulsory for seer games- seers will just be more on edge with green seering results then usual, assuming there still is a disguised wolf. Once again, disguised wolf is not mandatory, you could have a Mason or a different deceptive role (i.e. powerful Dauber wolf). 

The way I see it, the key to any game is balance. If you really just want to host, make a simple, stereotypical rolelist and add a new simple Neutral Biased that is beats all if makes it to the end.

If you want to host an interesting game with a weird gimmick, all you need to do is make sure that it's balanced. Look at every role- ask yourself if you would want to play as that role, if it would be too hard for that role to win. If it's too hard for that role to win, buff their team so they can win easier. If it's too easy, nerf them so it's more difficult to win. If you're not sure if it's balanced or not, send it to a few different people.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on September 29, 2017, 08:22:21 PM
Ya agreed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Nickito on September 29, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
I think it might be a good idea to start changing the topic title so it's easier to see when a new bid is put up.
Something like 'Bidding Poll Topic - Last Updated 9/29/17'.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Bandero on September 29, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
I think it might be a good idea to start changing the topic title so it's easier to see when a new bid is put up.
Something like 'Bidding Poll Topic - Last Updated 9/29/17'.

Agreed.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic
Post by: Kowhai on September 29, 2017, 10:16:53 PM
I think it might be a good idea to start changing the topic title so it's easier to see when a new bid is put up.
Something like 'Bidding Poll Topic - Last Updated 9/29/17'.
I'll just put the name of the current bid in the title.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: TotesAngel on September 30, 2017, 12:13:46 AM
This bidder is a town of salem player because they tryna use the colors of amne/arso/etc


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: memes on September 30, 2017, 08:50:03 AM
for balancing though hacker needs to get color changing ability
easy n1 win if seer/shaman manages to locate the hacker
also that direct seer to him is a suicide move basically
since hes an independent i dont see the reason for it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: dar on September 30, 2017, 08:58:35 AM
I think it's just to frame a person? Since in most interferences, the target person isn't changed, but the color result will be.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: dar on October 01, 2017, 11:27:55 AM
I can't seem to tally up the votes, for some reason..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: Bandero on October 01, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
I tallied them and ten people are voting no right now. I don't think I saw anyone in favor of it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: dar on October 01, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
thanks, I literally everyone who cared to vote have voted, some people voted because it was a poll..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG ___: Make TWG Great Again!

 Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Elder Wolf – Does not know the other wolves and the other wolves don’t know them.

Seer
Guardian
President-Once in the game can block all wolves from doing their abilities, except wolfing.
Politician
Stalker

Clinton-Can “frame” a user, who will be seered red. Stalker checks will see the wolfed victim.
Wolf Shaman
Espionage Wolf
Mason

CEO – Each night checks a user. If they are a usable role, they can bribe them to get their ability and can use it the next night. Can do this once. Wins with whom they borrowed an ability from. If they targetted a fool, but did not get lynched the next day, they can use their ability again.
Sanders– Acts like a maniac on odd days and a Masochist on even nights.
Assassin


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Bandero on October 01, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
No. The CEO role doesn't make sense, why would someone give up their ability to an independent? Or do they not have a choice... the word bribe makes it seem like the CEO and the person are communicating.

Also, assigning certain candidates to certain alignments isn't a good idea. Everyone has different political views, and that should be respected.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 03:42:07 PM
I'm voting Yes, can't see any reason to vote otherwise.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 03:44:02 PM
They don't have a choice. Also, politics is a stupid reason to vote No, even without taking into account that the views here are clearly ironic.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: dar on October 01, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
I think CEO is copycat but only for the night after the ability.

Vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: MariaYuki on October 01, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
No. The CEO role doesn't make sense, why would someone give up their ability to an independent? Or do they not have a choice... the word bribe makes it seem like the CEO and the person are communicating.

Also, assigning certain candidates to certain alignments isn't a good idea. Everyone has different political views, and that should be respected.
From what it sounds like, the CEO and role would automatically win if this happens. "Wins with whom they borrowed an ability from."
Voting no because it would be too easy for the CEO to win.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
They don't though?
They win if the person they take the ability from wins. That seems pretty clear.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: MariaYuki on October 01, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
They don't though?
They win if the person they take the ability from wins. That seems pretty clear.
Oh
Still voting no for it being a bad bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Leia on October 01, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
1. If the CEO can use their power every night and wins with whichever alignment they used their power on, who do they end up winning with? (i.e. CEO uses power on President, Assassin, and then Elder Wolf, who do they end up being aligned with)
2. Does the Elder wolf still have their original powers, or did the bidder just decide to make a blue-colored traitor and name it Elder Wolf?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
Oh
Still voting no for it being a bad bid
"Bad bid" is not a valid reason for voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
1. If the CEO can use their power every night and wins with whichever alignment they used their power on, who do they end up winning with? (i.e. CEO uses power on President, Assassin, and then Elder Wolf, who do they end up being aligned with)
2. Does the Elder wolf still have their original powers, or did the bidder just decide to make a blue-colored traitor and name it Elder Wolf?
1. They can only steal one role, they can check roles an
infinite number of times
2. Probably yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Leia on October 01, 2017, 04:28:00 PM
ok 1 more question
1) Can someone explain Clinton more thoroughly? How long does the "framing" last? How many times per game can they frame?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 01, 2017, 04:29:28 PM
Yeah, IDK about that one.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 01, 2017, 05:51:14 PM
No. The CEO role doesn't make sense, why would someone give up their ability to an independent? Or do they not have a choice... the word bribe makes it seem like the CEO and the person are communicating.

Also, assigning certain candidates to certain alignments isn't a good idea. Everyone has different political views, and that should be respected.
1. It's just word choice, the players don't have a choice, and I don't think they will know if their ability was given to the CEO or not.

2. It's literally just a game, this isn't an an actual election. Reasons like this should not count against the "poll".

Voting yes because I don't see any major problems. It's a workable bid and the only thing the host needs to specify is about the framer and how long the framing lasts.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Shendelzare on October 01, 2017, 06:50:26 PM
I find this funny enough to become a valid game.

Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Raven on October 02, 2017, 06:25:52 AM
I dont see any problem with this bid so...
yes? I guess


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kirby on October 02, 2017, 08:17:07 AM
Clinton-Can “frame” a user, who will be seered red. Stalker checks will see the wolfed victim.
can someone explain the stalker part?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kirby on October 02, 2017, 08:23:44 AM
k
voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Leia on October 02, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Ok. Yes then because there's nothing wrong with it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: memes on October 03, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
this is actually a good idea


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: dar on October 07, 2017, 08:33:20 PM
Why are there less votes instead of about the same number of votes when the poll was removed?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 07, 2017, 08:48:08 PM
I am so tempted to take failed bids and try to change them up a bit to make them workable


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: dar on October 07, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
I am so tempted to just make a bid where jedi is balanced into Consular and Knight, Knight only does killing while Consular can only roleblock, and their targets will have a 50/50 chance of being seered.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 07, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
what


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: Kowhai on October 07, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
Make TWG Great Again!, bid by Archi, will be the 99th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
Foreign Affairs:

Human - just your ordinary human
Human
Human
Human
Bomb - if visited, kills visitor and themselves; thinks they're human
Disguised Wolf - a wolf that appears green in seer checks

Seer - finds out one person's color every night
Guardian - protects one person every night
Wolfsbane - immune to the first attack by wolevs
Diplomat - role blocks someone every night, can't roleblock one person twice in a row
Necromancer - once per game can revive someone, but not themselves; happens at night

Wolf - just your ordinary wolf
Brutal Wolf - chooses someone to die if lynched; if roleblocked the night before their lynching, does not kill
Wolf Shaman - the seer, but for wolves
Mason - thinks they are human

Amnesiac - can remember that they're the role of someone who died
Cheater – chooses a target each night; the following day they can’t vote and get two extra self votes; wins if 3 of their targets are lynched (alongside others)
Terrorist – kills someone N1 and learns their color; can kill someone every following odd night, but doesn’t learn their color; can seer someone every even night; beats all if makes it to the end having killed at least two people of the same alignment


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Make TWG Great Again!)
Post by: dar on October 07, 2017, 08:52:40 PM
idkwhy..

NEX- *shot for no queue*

Also I submitted one while my queued one was running.. whups

Edit: Yes, I vote yes. I don't need to explain why, terrorist godly but not op


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 07, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
I don't see any major issues with it so why not. I do feel Terrorist could be worded a bit better though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Kowhai on October 07, 2017, 08:56:29 PM
I'm voting Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 07, 2017, 08:59:31 PM
Should Town roles be immune to RBing? I feel like that would make Diplomat/Jock stronger. After all, it was my role I think, so I can change it 


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Abu on October 08, 2017, 04:27:49 AM
Yes but can we please rename terrorist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 08, 2017, 09:04:32 AM
Yes. And also, wasn't Jock originally a themed role in the first place? I think it was in Hell School.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Ataino on October 08, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Yes. And also, wasn't Jock originally a themed role in the first place? I think it was in Hell School.
Yes it was I-believe KKE's game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Nickito on October 08, 2017, 10:41:51 AM
Yes but can we please rename terrorist
why


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Leia on October 08, 2017, 10:45:26 AM
I'd just change the Jock/Diplomat to a more powerful Town Support (Transporter might make things interesting with the Terrorist), and then yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 08, 2017, 10:58:08 AM
Transporter does mess up actual town roles though. I would prefer a Town Killing, but I think it will be fine without another blue.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Ataino on October 10, 2017, 04:56:21 AM
Did I vote yes?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Kowhai on October 10, 2017, 04:59:31 AM
No, you didn't


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Ataino on October 10, 2017, 05:00:08 AM
Well I do lol :p


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Abu on October 10, 2017, 05:06:58 AM
why
Because that is not what a terrorist is first of all, and second of all it is a terrible name choice considering what is going on in the world these days.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 10, 2017, 05:07:23 AM
I mean
It's just a game


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 10, 2017, 01:24:17 PM
Because that is not what a terrorist is first of all, and second of all it is a terrible name choice considering what is going on in the world these days.

If I were the bidder trying to make a terrorist role that exactly matched what a terrorist did, it would basically be a 3rd party wolf. Besides, Make TWG Great Again! discussed stuff going on in the world, and it was much more specific than this.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Abu on October 10, 2017, 01:27:00 PM
I mean
It's just a game
Would you like to be the Terrorist? I would boycott the game because I refuse to be called a terrorist.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 10, 2017, 03:13:51 PM
I mean
I honestly wouldn't mind
Because it's just a game lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 10, 2017, 04:12:08 PM
Would you like to be the Terrorist? I would boycott the game because I refuse to be called a terrorist.

There are many other roles in TWG with similarly negative denotations, such as Murder, Blackmailer, Assassin, or Anarchist.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: dar on October 10, 2017, 05:40:24 PM
RIP me, who submitted bid as my bid was up/in queue that i forgot


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: dar on October 10, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
Imagine clinton framed you, and I get wolfed. The stalker saw you the same night, the stalker will see that you visited me.


I read "Imagine children framed you..."
aww man


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: sansaery on October 10, 2017, 08:31:38 PM
Look, the name 'terrorist' is controversial, bidder just change it because it'll end up worse if you don't

Also why did Make TWG Great Again! make it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Raven on October 11, 2017, 05:33:49 AM
How is it controversial
Terrorists exist irl just like Clinton and Trump in Make TWG Great Again


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 11, 2017, 01:14:17 PM
How is it controversial
Terrorists exist irl just like Clinton and Trump in Make TWG Great Again

Exactly.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Abu on October 11, 2017, 01:18:33 PM
How is it controversial
Terrorists exist irl just like Clinton and Trump in Make TWG Great Again
Does Clinton or Trump carry the same connotation is a terrorist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Ataino on October 11, 2017, 01:19:07 PM
Does Clinton or Trump carry the same connotation is a terrorist?
trump doessorry


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 11, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
Does Clinton or Trump carry the same connotation is a terrorist?

In many ways, werewolves in TWG do the same things as terrorists, such as killing people, and no one's complaining about being a wolf...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Abu on October 11, 2017, 01:26:49 PM
In many ways, werewolves in TWG do the same things as terrorists, such as killing people, and no one's complaining about being a wolf...
Do werewolves carry the same connotation as a terrorist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 01:46:24 PM
it's just a role name, it's not a big deal


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 11, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
So far, it's 6 yeses to 2 nos, although I didn't count Nickito, blankin, or Daenerys, because they didn't actually say whether they were voting or not.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Bandero on October 11, 2017, 07:40:04 PM
Why would you say that? I've played like four games...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Foreign Affairs)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 07:42:49 PM
Foreign Affairs, bid by greenviceroy, will be the 101st official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: Reversal of Fortune

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Cop
Coroner
Warden
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Trickster Wolf - 3 times a game, can swap the roles of any two living players for 2 nights (not counting the night that they swap).
Mason
Amnesiac
Reverser - 3 times a game, can choose a target. For that night, any ability the target performs will be performed upon them by their target, and any ability that is performed upon the target will be similarly reversed. Beats all if makes it to the end. For example, if the Reverser targets Archi (Seer), who seers KKE (Human), while Nickito (Cop) shoots Archi, then Archi will instead be seered by KKE, while Archi will instead shoot Nickito.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 07:45:58 PM
So like if I'm Reverser, and I target Qazikol the Seer. Qazikol will see himself, and will see that his target is blue. If KKE who is the Cop visits Qazikol this night, does she shoot herself?
I don't get the Reverser at all it's not explained very well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 07:46:35 PM
Right, forgot to reword that, will do that now.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Bandero on October 11, 2017, 07:50:45 PM
Congratulations, you have played the least games to have a successful bid! Now, please replace Diplomat with a town killing..

According to the headquarters, Bomb is a town killing.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
Added an example, hopefully that will clear things up.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
would KKE learn that Archi is the Seer
that could be too powerful for the Wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 07:56:12 PM
Reverser isn't a wolf though?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 07:57:32 PM
but if a Seer checks a Wolf, and the Reverser reverses the Seer, in theory the Wolves would know who the Seer is


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 07:57:56 PM
That is correct


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
okay
there's not really much point in using your power then
also Trickster Wolf looks messy with win conditions, so I'm voting no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:00:02 PM
What if KKE was a wolf
But then, Nickito would wolf her
If KKE was the lowest-ranked living wolf, then the wolves' target would end up wolfing KKE instead
I believe that should be obvious


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
okay
there's not really much point in using your power then
also Trickster Wolf looks messy with win conditions, so I'm voting no
Win conditions do not swap
How exactly is there no point?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 11, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Powers can backfire
If a Human/Wolf are switched then that's kind of chaotic so I'm voting no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Voting Yes
Because of course I am
Powers can backfire
If a Human/Wolf are switched then that's kind of chaotic so I'm voting no
Backfire, in what way? Cop's ability can backfire, but that isn't considered a bad role, because you're supposed to be careful about who you target
If Human and Wolf are swapped, literally nothing happens except their colours changing, as they're both considered to have no ability.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
Why would the Trickster Wolf switch their own team...?
For example, to steal the abilities of blue roles for a bit


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 11, 2017, 08:05:05 PM
Why would the Trickster Wolf switch their own team...?
Because the Wolf would have the ability of the other role


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
Are you going to vote?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 11, 2017, 08:14:47 PM
I will vote Yes because I like the Trickster Wolf
And I also helped the bidder with this so I don't have a reason to vote No :p


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Leia on October 11, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
If, say, Wolf and Necromancer were targeted by the Trickster Wolf, would the Necromancer then just be human (or would they have a night kill) and would the Wolf then have the ability to revive someone?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 11, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
Yep, though Necro would more be Mason, since colours are switched as well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Leia on October 11, 2017, 08:35:54 PM
Mm got it. I like this. Voting Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Ataino on October 12, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
I still son't really get the reverser but I'll vote yes lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Raven on October 12, 2017, 04:49:04 AM
I think the reverser makes it too chaotic but then it seems like a fun role so Ill vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: dar on October 12, 2017, 05:56:29 AM
Vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Faiz on October 12, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
it's just a role name, it's not a big deal
I mean
I honestly wouldn't mind
Because it's just a game lol
Maybe you haven't been called a terrorist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Ataino on October 12, 2017, 09:00:06 AM
It's just a game you're not being called an actual terrorist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Raven on October 12, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
and arsonist and stalker
Did we forget that the game is TWG which stands for The Werewolf Game
Werewolves that kill hoomans every night lol
Does it even matter?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Bandero on October 12, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
Bomb is technically not counted as a town killing, as it thinks it's human and can harm its own faction. If you don't want to add a town killing, just add any other blue

I want the number of players to stay 18, so would I remove one of the humans to do that?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Bandero on October 12, 2017, 01:37:07 PM
After careful pondering, I'll vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 13, 2017, 03:49:55 AM
Can I bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 13, 2017, 03:58:39 AM
Not yet, Theory of Everything is technically on the queue.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 13, 2017, 07:38:11 PM
DAMNIT


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 01:12:48 PM
what do you mean 'technically'


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: memes on October 14, 2017, 01:22:12 PM
it has already been put as twg 100
i think there are a few empty spaces before it, but i dont know what it has to do with not being able to bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
no there are no gaps in the schedule


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Leia on October 14, 2017, 01:28:32 PM
I'm pretty sure it's only "technically" on the queue because it never went through bidding, and KKE was unsure of whether or not she could bid regardless of TWG C


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 04:18:18 PM
Actually, since that rule's kinda outdated and cumbersome, I reckon I'll alter it a bit

Anyone who is not permamently banned from TWG (so really, anyone) can bid, as long as they do not already have a bid waiting to be polled, or if one of the last 5 successful bids was one of their bids. Worth noting that this will not allow KKE to bid immediately (TWG C will still count as a bid), but this rule change will be more effective in ensuring hosts' games are properly spaced out, while not being overly cumbersome for those who have to wait a really long time for their bids to be hosted.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
You can still replace the bid in the queue right


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 04:44:19 PM
?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 04:45:40 PM
Like if I send a bid to the queue, I can still take it off the queue before it's voted on for any reason?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 04:47:33 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Reversal of Fortune)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 07:56:23 PM
Reversal of Fortune, bid by Qazikol, will be the 102nd official TWG. Congratulations, me!

New bid:
TWG: A Normal Day Outside
Since werewolves ever came into our city.. it've been some time without peace. Now gimmicks, with blackouts,
 being in space, in the desert, in the arctic.. We've been through a lot.. A big lot. Why don't we just have a little tiny break from all special thingies?
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf


Seer
Necromancer
Guardian
Psycho
Coroner

Wolf
Shaman Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Mason


Amnesiac
Fool
Vigilante



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 14, 2017, 07:57:14 PM
I mean sure, why not.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: dar on October 14, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Sure, go all psycho over gunners and controlled people that know they're werewolves, seems fair.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 08:02:00 PM
I'll vote Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Bandero on October 14, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
Yes, don't see any problems.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: dar on October 14, 2017, 08:12:37 PM
It's relaxing to have a normal day after this craziness...

VOTE YES.

Hedda's Journal Entry 50, I'm glad to be simulating a normal day.. even the werewolves are normal.. I think I must have died soon, because when I look up, waiting for others to submit, an Ice monkey appears. If I don't write another journal entry, I'v32`


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 08:23:41 PM
I get that this is supposed to be a break from the gimmicks, but there's literally nothing special about this game at all. There are tons of lesser-known blue roles that could be dusted off and used here, why not?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 14, 2017, 08:24:43 PM
Are you voting?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Leia on October 14, 2017, 08:26:50 PM
Sure. Seems fine. I vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Nickito on October 14, 2017, 08:37:50 PM
Are you voting?
I'll vote yes, but I'd really prefer if there was an obscure role in there
the roles topic isn't fully up yet but I hope to get it done soon-ish


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: dar on October 14, 2017, 08:38:32 PM
Like the rule could be "You can't really do many things out of the ordinary except random lynches" thing?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: memes on October 15, 2017, 01:48:36 AM
sometimes simple games are good
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Raven on October 15, 2017, 05:19:42 AM
ooh its soo... simple
Im voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 02:16:20 AM
Eh okay I'll vote yes it isn'5 too confusing *cough reversal of Fortune cough*


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Leia on October 16, 2017, 05:02:30 AM
Ok Ghost Story wasn’t that complicated, you just had a new role when you died, and it was also the funnest game in TWG history for me.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Leia on October 16, 2017, 05:06:08 AM
Because the poltergeist hit lucky and the wolves got unlucky based on where they were in the sign-up list

Once again, it was fun.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:06:46 AM
Poltergeist made 3 people who were adjacent to each other on the sign ups list visit each other, and at one point two of them were wolves, so they killed each other.
I reckon Video Games would be the most complicated game that I hosted, really.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Nickito on October 16, 2017, 05:08:32 AM
Qazikol has the most complicated games that's a fact


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Leia on October 16, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Games that should be rebid
- Ghost Story
- Video Games
- Werewolves in SPACE

All of Qazikol’s games and gimmicks just end up being really fun


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 05:09:10 AM
They're not really that complicated if you read


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 05:11:51 AM
It's not complicated
You played WiS


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:12:22 AM
I've definitely considered rebidding Video Games, will likely do so in the future


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 05:12:35 AM
Well I am^
Actually, the reverser role is the only confusing role for me. Video games, ghost story and others aren't complicated


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:13:00 AM
I've definitely considered rebidding Video Games, will likely do so in the future
Well, I'll modify it as well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Nickito on October 16, 2017, 05:13:30 AM
They're not really that complicated if you read
Okay you have the most complicated bids


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 05:13:40 AM
Well I am^
Actually, the reverser role is the only confusing role for me. Video games, ghost story and others aren't complicated
Oops I've been ninja'd
I was replying to archi
If Ghost Story is rebid, I'm probably not gonna play it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 05:14:29 AM
Okay you have the most complicated bids
No they aren't...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:15:53 AM
Okay you have the most complicated bids
Her most complicated bid was probably RiT
And that basically boiled down to "special effects each new phase"
Maybe above average complicated, but not excessively so


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Leia on October 16, 2017, 05:17:55 AM
How was Ghost Story complicated? It seemed pretty straight forward to me. When you die, you get a new role, and can still post in the topic.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:21:16 AM
Video Games seems more complicated to me
You're given your team, and can then choose your role from a list of 9 roles which are all new but you can only have one of each role per team and you can't kill people on your own team and it seems much more complex.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:26:46 AM
?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 05:52:05 AM
What is anarchist
Oh and when's the next bud Qaz
I believe there isn't any no vote


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 05:55:53 AM
It's usually updated after 3 days, since there's rarely enough yes/no votes to end the poll prematurely under the new voting system. Though, since there's 11 yes votes, which surpasses the threshold, I'll update shortly.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 05:59:17 AM
Btw the bid is mine
I wanted a rather simplistic and fail less bid than a super confusing new role and gimmick that can have multiple flaws


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Nickito on October 16, 2017, 06:21:26 AM
Literally nobody understands Anarchist, yet I don't think it's confusing

Which means I don't get confused easily
Its more complicated than Maniac or Vigilante


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: A Normal Day Outside)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 06:38:21 AM
A Normal Day Outside, bid by Temmie, will be the 103rd official TWG. Congratulations!

Not so long ago in a galaxy right here

DAAAAA dududdunnnn (insert other notes)

Fans of star wars are met up in a town.. some have been converted by an unknown force.. Having one recently killed for being a werewolf, people start pointing fingers, blasters, and lightsabers at each other, especially to the one who looks like Tyber Zann.

Human
Human
Human
Human

Mason (thinks human)


Slugthrower (Cop but doesn't die if shoots blue role, wins with town, 3 BULLETSES)
Seer
Schizophreniac (On the night after the first wolf is lynched lashes out against a randomized person due to thinking that the werewolf commanded them to do something, role revealed after death, immune to conversion, can talk to dead people via PMs)
Wolfsbane (Not immune to Schizophreniac, immune to conversion)
Redeemer (Can make someone human on odd nights, can't operate N1 or N2 or N3)




Disguise Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf leader (Cult leader but can convert anyone to a wolf per even night, can once convince another person that they have been transformed isn't really. )


Amnesiac (ACTUALLY SEERED BLACK; Color just for clarification)
Consular (Can learn the role of a person only once, ACTUALLY SEERED BLACK; Color just for clarification)
Arsonist (ACTUALLY SEERED BLACK; Color just for clarification)



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Shendelzare on October 16, 2017, 06:41:33 AM
I would vote yes but lack of roles made me a bit bored here. No.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 06:45:42 AM
Maybe it's just because I'm tired and don't get it, but Redeemer seems like a really bad role. Voting no for now, may change vote if I wake up and it makes sense.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Shendelzare on October 16, 2017, 06:47:12 AM
Also, Wolf can be overfrickinpowered right there.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: dar on October 16, 2017, 06:48:59 AM
I agree with widow, what IS the redeemer supposed to do, especially if it gets random,org lynched but the wolf leader doesn't?

The wolves aren't really like the cult, they know each other, and any redeemed wolf will know who to lynch.

Shouldn't the redeemer be immune to conversion too?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Kowhai on October 16, 2017, 06:53:23 AM
Unless I'm missing something, Redeemer can pretty much automatically win the game for the town if the town simply identifies a single wolf.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Nickito on October 16, 2017, 08:17:52 AM
Hey you know how cult is super OP
What if we make them all know each other, let them kill, and give them an easier win condition
Also Schizo is dumb
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 08:30:08 AM
Redeemer can bleep up blue roles and ifs unfair to wolves
I don't understand the point of Schizo

Voting No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Ataino on October 16, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
Voting no

Wolves too OP with leader, and idk if I missed something sch something blue role seems anything but town


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: sansaery on October 16, 2017, 10:06:31 AM
No, also schizophrenic is misspelled and that's not how schizophrenia works (and it's a bad role)

Chasi, think before you use mental illnesses as role names k thx bye

Otherwise Redeemer isn't all that helpful and if it finds a blue humans are bleeped

Wolf leader makes wolves overpowered af


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Raven on October 16, 2017, 10:46:03 AM
I saw Wolf Leader and I was like :o :o :o
Way too OP
And the redeemer can change blue roles to hoomans which makes it even worse for the town
Vote no



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: TotesAngel on October 16, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
The Schizo role breaks a Major TWG rule. If this actually got through (It won't), The user with the Schizo role could be banned from the next TWG. This is also very offensive to the prople who have schizophrenia. Why the hell would you make a role of a mental disease?

This game is both a mess of new roles, and a mess of colors. No, just... no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Raven on October 16, 2017, 11:52:59 AM
What major rule?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: TotesAngel on October 16, 2017, 11:58:04 AM
From the TWG HQ.

Don't PM the dead
As said above, dead people can't talk. So you can't PM someone who is dead anything. This is including PMing roles like the Maniac, telling them who to kill. You cannot PM anyone dead ever.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 11:59:48 AM
Uh
If it's part of the gimmick then it's ok
If that were the case
Everyone who played ghost story would be gamebanned


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: TotesAngel on October 16, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
i ban everyone whi played ghost story


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: memes on October 16, 2017, 12:05:21 PM
The Schizo role breaks a Major TWG rule. If this actually got through (It won't), The user with the Schizo role could be banned from the next TWG. This is also very offensive to the prople who have schizophrenia. Why the hell would you make a role of a mental disease?

This game is both a mess of new roles, and a mess of colors. No, just... no.
although not a mental disease, what about insomniac dear sir?
insomnia is an actual problem dude
try sleeping when you cant fall asleep


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Bandero on October 16, 2017, 01:09:46 PM
Voting no. The wolves are OP, and only four blue roles. The redeemer can convert people on odd nights, but not N1, N2, or N3, so it only works on nights N5, N7, etc, and most games don't go much past that. Also, it could convert blue roles.

The schizophreniac doesn't really help the town if it kills a random person, and that means they don't choose who they kill, so they're not really even a blue role...

Also, there's no need to color the independents, especially because there's not even a seer...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Nickito on October 16, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
I mean there is a Seer
still voting no but let's vote no for reasons that are true


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Bandero on October 16, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
Oh, I didn't see the seer in all of the description text. Still voting no, of course.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 16, 2017, 05:55:07 PM
LMFAOOOO
I just realized that Redeemer can convert one wolf
Then the one wolf can just out the other wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Leia on October 16, 2017, 06:01:26 PM
There's a lot wrong with this bid, starting with the concept of converting wolves to humans and vice versa. It just doesn't work when they know fellow wolves. Voting No.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: memes on October 17, 2017, 10:32:40 AM
so much wrong
NO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 17, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
You’re trying to turn a mental illness into a TWG role? This is disgusting and I shouldn’t have to see this. Take your T**** support somewhere else.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 17, 2017, 03:10:18 PM
Jesus...okayyy
Not saying I'm in support of the bidder's choice of role name but I think you guys are taking it too far. If we aren't going to accept Schizophrenic, we might as well take out Psychotic Wolf and Psycho... ::)

It's literally just a role and I doubt the bidder had ill intentions.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 17, 2017, 03:28:03 PM
Jesus...okayyy
Not saying I'm in support of the bidder's choice of role name but I think you guys are taking it too far. If we aren't going to accept Schizophrenic, we might as well take out Psychotic Wolf and Psycho... ::)

It's literally just a role and I doubt the bidder had ill intentions.
Then force them to change it? This is an actual mental illness.

It’s literally the same as having a "Suicidal" or "Anorexic Wolf" role


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 17, 2017, 03:41:03 PM
What I am saying is, we've been completely fine with roles like Psycho and Psychotic wolf, and I am pretty sure that also has to do with mental illness, does it not?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Bandero on October 17, 2017, 05:46:43 PM
There's also Amnesiac and Insomniac which refer to medical conditions...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 17, 2017, 06:17:27 PM
What I am saying is, we've been completely fine with roles like Psycho and Psychotic wolf, and I am pretty sure that also has to do with mental illness, does it not?
Perhaps in the past but those two are now also adjectives that do not have negative connotations.

There's also Amnesiac and Insomniac which refer to medical conditions...
Ones that don’t cause offense.

Also says the one who made the Terrorist role. Fascist


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Leia on October 17, 2017, 06:46:14 PM
Also says the one who made the Terrorist role. Fascist
You're calling greenviceroy someone who supports totalitarianism and dictatorship because they decided to name a killing role in a game of online internet mafia Terrorist . . . please, please explain how in the world you made that connection


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 17, 2017, 07:15:40 PM
You're calling greenviceroy someone who supports totalitarianism and dictatorship because they decided to name a killing role in a game of online internet mafia Terrorist . . . please, please explain how in the world you made that connection
The auth right in general tend to be more traditional and do not understand what terms such as terrorist, suicidal, schizophrenic can be very harmful when used as adjectives.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: sansaery on October 17, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
Jesus...okayyy
Not saying I'm in support of the bidder's choice of role name but I think you guys are taking it too far. If we aren't going to accept Schizophrenic, we might as well take out Psychotic Wolf and Psycho... ::)

It's literally just a role and I doubt the bidder had ill intentions.

Completely different actually, Psycho people don't seem to care about

what really irks me is that the bidder didn't spell schizophrenic correctly and if it's the user I think it is, they know nothing about what schizophrenia is and used the word to give the role a name, which irks me more


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Bandero on October 18, 2017, 04:55:50 AM
The auth right in general tend to be more traditional and do not understand what terms such as terrorist, suicidal, schizophrenic can be very harmful when used as adjectives.

I am not fascist or auth right... for example  I wouldn't use a role called Suicidal in a game, because if someone is struggling with that, that wouldn't be good.

Please don't call me fascist in the future because I used a role name in a game that happens to be a real life issue.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Nickito on October 18, 2017, 05:13:29 AM
We have plenty of roles that want to die, are they suicidal?
The role list has many other problems aside from a role name.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 18, 2017, 06:06:52 AM
It's honestly ridiculous that we are going this far over a damn role name


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Nickito on October 18, 2017, 06:40:51 AM
It's honestly ridiculous that we are going this far over a damn role name
It's just the same two people though


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 18, 2017, 06:43:20 AM
I am not fascist or auth right... for example  I wouldn't use a role called Suicidal in a game, because if someone is struggling with that, that wouldn't be good.

Please don't call me fascist in the future because I used a role name in a game that happens to be a real life issue.
Okay I apologise if you are not a fascist as you do understand the negative connotations but you do know that people with schizophrenia suffer too? Just as much as suicidal ones


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: memes on October 18, 2017, 06:49:05 AM
schizoprenia has (a few) good sides
imo its not a real problem for me
so many roles exist in this game that straight off want to die
suicidal as a role name is just a little drizzle on the top


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Abu on October 18, 2017, 07:25:35 AM
schizoprenia has (a few) good sides
imo its not a real problem for me
so many roles exist in this game that straight off want to die
suicidal as a role name is just a little drizzle on the top
How does a mental disorder have an upside


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: sansaery on October 18, 2017, 07:27:34 AM
'you get extra friends with schizophrenia!!! lololol'

I hope to god that's not the 'upside'


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: memes on October 18, 2017, 07:29:33 AM
i think i saw a video
there was a floating mask and it asked some stuff about the mask
it said if you got all correct you are either a genius or schizophrenic
im not sure if its real but maybe


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Nickito on October 18, 2017, 08:30:05 AM
Maybe... Hopefully TSO is talking about the role?
The role is pretty bad anyway it kills a random player, that's a large chance that a town member dies


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: sansaery on October 18, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
i think i saw a video
there was a floating mask and it asked some stuff about the mask
it said if you got all correct you are either a genius or schizophrenic
im not sure if its real but maybe

Um no that's not real

Maybe... Hopefully TSO is talking about the role?
The role is pretty bad anyway it kills a random player, that's a large chance that a town member dies

It is a bad role but I doubt he's talking about the role


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Bandero on October 18, 2017, 01:18:18 PM
Okay I apologise if you are not a fascist as you do understand the negative connotations but you do know that people with schizophrenia suffer too? Just as much as suicidal ones

Thanks, I forgive you. I'm still voting no, whatever the role is named.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: memes on October 19, 2017, 09:47:44 AM
role is terrible anyways
town of salem medium that can straight off kill one of its comrades


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Corrupt Forces)
Post by: Kowhai on October 20, 2017, 06:45:12 AM
Corrupt Forces will not be an official new TWG.

New bid:
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Apprentice
Cop
Coroner

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Eidetic Wolf
Mason

Fool
Amnesiac


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Shendelzare on October 20, 2017, 06:47:25 AM
I just thought that was too simple man, especially what's worth of not having a title?

Not voting until I find clues.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 20, 2017, 06:48:05 AM
No because all roles are Independent

No because we literally just had a game this simple bidded and approved. I would prefer to see something more unique and interesting than this.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Shendelzare on October 20, 2017, 06:48:31 AM
And this was just too direct. Now with something left already stated, I vote no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 20, 2017, 06:55:22 AM
Hey Archi
wanna start sign ups for next game?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Shendelzare on October 20, 2017, 06:56:34 AM
A seer and an apprentice.. this bid doesn't have the charm widow has when she adds a wrathful and an "Innocent" wolf.
Also no neutral biased. Too boring. Voting no.
Rascal Wolf you mean. :p


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 20, 2017, 06:56:50 AM
bloop nvm
I just saw your game topic lounge locked
so I thought it was yours

Huzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzlesss hustle huz huzzle hustle


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 20, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Humans seem OP, Eidetic Wolf hardly matters when there's a backup investigative anyway, and all of the other blue roles + Insomniac are solid roles. Work on balancing, voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Shendelzare on October 20, 2017, 07:02:29 AM
Rascal, Cowardly, Innocent, etc
Rascal Wolf was one with Mason-like traits but was actually a Wolf. Red, but not guilty.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 20, 2017, 08:01:38 AM
Ew Apprentice
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: dar on October 20, 2017, 08:02:38 AM
ew no title
ew no color

no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Raven on October 20, 2017, 12:27:08 PM
hmmmmm
Am I the only one who doesnt really mind a simple bid?
I mean, even if we dont have the complicated roles and we have a recently approved bid thats similar, Id sign up

Its just like Classic ToS


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: dar on October 20, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
We already have a basic bid in waiting?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Ataino on October 20, 2017, 12:28:46 PM
hmmmmm
Am I the only one who doesnt really mind a simple bid?
I mean, even if we dont have the complicated roles and we have a recently approved bid thats similar, Id sign up

Its just like Classic ToS
but the thing is <bolded in quote> so that's the problem *kinda lennyface and kinda sad for the bidder*
though, seer+apprentice still makes no sense, town is OP and there's no Nuetral Biased


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Raven on October 20, 2017, 12:29:24 PM
We already have a basic bid in waiting?

hmmmmm
Am I the only one who doesnt really mind a simple bid?
I mean, even if we dont have the complicated roles and we have a recently approved bid thats similar, Id sign up

Its just like Classic ToS


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: dar on October 20, 2017, 12:30:30 PM
but the thing is <bolded in quote> so that's the problem *kinda lennyface and kinda sad for the bidder*
though, seer+apprentice still makes no sense, town is OP and there's no Nuetral Biased


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Raven on October 20, 2017, 12:32:54 PM
So why are you guys arguing against an opinion again?
I want to vote yes, so I vote yes
You want to vote no, so you vote no

Yay



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Bandero on October 20, 2017, 01:04:42 PM
No, because:

Independents are too OP

It's really simple, and a simple bid passed very recently.

Also, Seer and Apprentice don't work well together.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 20, 2017, 01:24:35 PM
ew no title
ew no color

no
That's a bad reason to say no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 20, 2017, 03:13:18 PM
So why are you guys arguing against an opinion again?
I want to vote yes, so I vote yes
You want to vote no, so you vote no

Yay


If you were presenting your opinion just as an opinion, and not a counter-argument, you wouldn't have phrased it the way you had, or even posted it at all, most likely, just saying "vote yes". Don't act surprised and indignant when people point out flaws in what you're saying, or think that no one can argue with what you said because it's just an opinion. If I started advocating white supremacy, while saying it was just my opinion, would no one be allowed to point out I'm a horrible bleeping racist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 20, 2017, 06:00:01 PM
I want to bid again, I feel like I haven't hosted a game I've bid in forever.
Think about it, I hosted Perfection (not my game), Rock Frontier (not my game), Classic Part 2 (not my game), I'm about to host Morality (not my game)...
see a pattern here?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 20, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
Bid!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 20, 2017, 06:03:31 PM
tbf last time I bid I didn't host it
so when I bid, I don't host. When I don't bid, I host.
I don't even have an idea off the top of my head, I'll probably just build a role list around some obscure role when I'm done the topic.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: sansaery on October 20, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
I've noticed bids with Optometrist tend to get voted no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 20, 2017, 07:31:52 PM
That role is trippy.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 21, 2017, 05:42:57 AM
what was the game with the optometrist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 21, 2017, 05:46:07 AM
Colourblind
Town was dumb and lost, Optometrist sided with wolves, but they didn't really need the seer ability


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 21, 2017, 05:52:30 AM
oh
someone sent me a bid recently that didn't have any seers or shaman/dauber
and i just thought optometrist was actually a good fit there


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 21, 2017, 05:53:55 AM
If there are no seering roles, Opto probably works in that context


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 21, 2017, 06:00:12 AM
coach huzzy hasn't been on in over a day
i'm somewhat worried because he never told me he had anything happening
but i am gonna start a sign up temporary topic
idk what to do if he still doesn't reply by the time sign ups fill


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 21, 2017, 06:28:40 AM
I don't have the role list for Morality so it's not like we can skip over


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: sansaery on October 21, 2017, 12:54:58 PM
Huzzy hasn't been on FB in over two days


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Leia on October 21, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
If you do want to skip over, I PMed Lusamine for the new rolelist and this was his response:
Yes here. There was supposed to be one less human and one more mason.

TWG: The Rights and the Wrongs

What looks like a boring TWG becomes marginally more interesting when each role gets a moral alignment assigned to them. This moral alignment will influence their abilities, and how the roles interact with each other.

Every role will have their original abilities alongside their alignment's ability.

Human (True Neutral)
Human (True Neutral)
Human (True Neutral)
Watchdog (Neutral Evil)

Seer (Neutral Good)
Guardian (Lawful Good)
Cop (Lawful Good)
Wolfsbane (Chaotic Good)
Psychic (Lawful Neutral)

Wolf (True Neutral)
Disguised Wolf (Neutral Evil)
Brutal Wolf (Chaotic Neutral)
Wolf Shaman (Lawful Evil)

Vigilante (Chaotic Neutral)
Supplier (Chaotic Good)
Maniac (Chaotic Evil)

True Neutral roles do not have any special abilities associated with them.

Lawful
All the Lawful roles (Guardian, Cop, Psychic and Wolf Shaman) believe that the best way to achieve their objectives is to stick with the law and not ruin anything. They all believe that they must stay alive to see their objectives through.

Lawful Good - will be able to go one day without a self-lynch
Lawful Neutral - will survive being lynched the first time
Lawful Evil - will survive the first attack against them

Neutral
All the Neutral roles, excluding the True Neutrals (Watchdog, Seer, and Disguised Wolf), are in between what the Lawful and Chaotic roles think, and are balanced in between working with the law and only for themselves. When necessary, they will have no qualms in messing the system up a bit to help their side win.

Neutral Good - once in the game, can use their ability twice in one night
Neutral Evil - once in the game, can roleblock everyone who visits them

Chaotic
All the Chaotic roles (Wolfsbane, Brutal Wolf, Vigilante, Supplier and Maniac) have no care for what everyone else thinks of them, and assume all of their visitors to be there for trouble. They will lash out at the first person to visit them.

Chaotic Good - will know the role of the first person to visit them
Chaotic Neutral - will know who the first person to visit them is
Chaotic Evil - will be roleblock the first person to visit them


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 21, 2017, 04:39:26 PM
Can you PM it to me without the quote?
I will wait a bit longer for Huz just in case


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: memes on October 22, 2017, 01:27:59 AM
hm
very advanced, but it looks insanely good


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 01:38:53 AM
Leave Room for a bid '' The Color War''
Rolelist later


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 22, 2017, 02:13:04 AM
Leave Room for a bid '' The Color War''
Rolelist later
You do need a rolelist, I'm not going to reserve a slot for you.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
You do need a rolelist, I'm not going to reserve a slot for you.
Wait a little.
I am sending it


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:06:47 AM
Human - has no abilities
Human
Human
Human
Disguised Wolf - A wolf that appears green on Seer checks
Mason - A human that is shown as wolf on Seer checks

Wolf - A normal wolf with no abilities
Dauber Wolf - Thrice in the game he can paint someone. This paint lasts one day.
Wolf Shaman - A wolf version of Seer

Seer - Every night he can ask the host for the color of a player. The host will reply. For example, Humans are green and Wolves are red
Coroner - Every time someone dies, the Coroner learns their color
Guardian - Every night, the Guardian protects someone of their choice from being killed
Apprentice - A seer who sees innocence and guilt

Color Bomb - Each second night, he can kill a person different from his color's team. If he kills one of his he dies. Wins if he makes it to the end.
Color Shield - Can protect itself and one color team from being painted but not wolved twice in the game. For example in the Night 2 can protect all of the Humans plus Mason or all of the wolves plus Disguised. Wins with everyone.
The Rainbow King - Thrice in the game, he can change one team's color with another's to confuse the seer. The abilities stay like they are (Wolves can wolf, Seers can still learn the '' colors '' of the players) but the color changes. This change lasts one day or one night. Wins if he makes it to the end
Liar - He can be any color. He has no abilities. Thinks like a human
Color Spoiler - 4 times in the game he can destroy color roles' plans. Wins if he makes it to the end.

Tip: Like wolves, The Rainbow King and Color Spoiler know who their teammates are


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:10:24 AM
There is no guardian....
There is Color Shield


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:10:57 AM
There is no guardian....
Should I add?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:14:16 AM
Yes, and replace painter with Coroner, that'd be useful
OK


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:15:48 AM
Are all the colors in the same team, or are they independents?
Colorful independent


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:19:32 AM
Now I made the change you told me to


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 22, 2017, 03:40:49 AM
Can you please send it via PM so I can keep track of it?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 03:53:08 AM
Can you please send it via PM so I can keep track of it?
Sure


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: dar on October 22, 2017, 05:18:51 AM
Does Coroner know the paint color or the initial color? ???


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 22, 2017, 08:18:24 AM
Does Coroner know the paint color or the initial color? ???
The initial (all colorful roles are independent so black)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 22, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
that's a plethora of colors :/


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 23, 2017, 05:02:15 AM
that's a plethora of colors :/
I think this will be the most color juiced TWG ever. If it is voted


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Raven on October 23, 2017, 05:37:28 AM
Wow
Just... WOW

I think the colour shield is confusing and the protecting colour teams thing doesnt make sense?
If the colour shield is the only one with its alignment, how can they protect someone of the same colour?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 23, 2017, 12:17:22 PM
Wow
Just... WOW

I think the colour shield is confusing and the protecting colour teams thing doesnt make sense?
If the colour shield is the only one with its alignment, how can they protect someone of the same colour?
Color Shield sends a pm to the host saying I want to protect all the humans in the night two for example


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Raven on October 23, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
Oh...

So it can basically protect an entire alignment in 1 night?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 23, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Oh...

So it can basically protect an entire alignment in 1 night?

Or day.
But only protect it from getting painted not wolved or lynched


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Nickito on October 23, 2017, 03:43:49 PM
oh so it's useless


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: [untitled])
Post by: Kowhai on October 23, 2017, 05:03:31 PM
[untitled] will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: End of Days

Twists:
- The theme is like somewhere in dark depths where those who investigate do not exist, all roles are black due to core investigative roles (Seer and the like) are not present, and the Blackout twist applies.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Strategist - Can protect himself twice over the course of the game, but was a Human.

Stalker
Dark Coroner - Like the normal Coroner, but can only receive a minor but "gibberish" clue (by means of other languages, especially done by a poor translator) of the dead's role at night.
Necromancer
Guardian
Wanderer
Warden

Wolf
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Human / Wolf

Fool / Maniac / Unstable
Refugee
Valkyrie - Can only protect herself twice over the course of the game. Wins until the end, along with the randomly specified "Valkyrie's Interest" target (can be anyone but Independents). Cannot know her target.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: dar on October 23, 2017, 05:23:08 PM
alright..

yeah. it'll be interesting, we've had too much investigive.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 23, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Once it is go through, I'll immediately request if there should be any investigative roles that is like Investigator, while not Seer or Apprentice


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Abu on October 23, 2017, 05:32:14 PM
I don’t understand it.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
I don't either
I asked the bidder a few questions about the Dark Coroner back when it was sent to me but I never got a response. Because I genuinely don't understand what it entails..

I will wait for the bidder to answer questions before placing my vote though :/


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Nickito on October 23, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Dark Coroner - 'hey google translate is bloopy let's make a role out of it'


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
i'm going to vote No as i received an example of a dark coroner result and it made no sense when i ran it through translate


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Nickito on October 23, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Dark Coroner - 'I like laughing at people'


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 06:21:45 PM
that sounds like Maniac ^
i received
"He's too heavy to check on the devil"
might be Valkyrie but it made no sense



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: dar on October 23, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
Human - "He is eating a man"
Does this work? (it couldn't fail so i put in atat at the end and it's failed XD)

and for Wolf- "He is a wolfman soap"

i put in laat because it won't fail either.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 23, 2017, 06:25:41 PM
I kinda like Dark Coroner, as long as host ensures that there is some correlation able to be made between the role and the translated result. Voting yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 06:32:06 PM
IDK
I might change my vote

If "I like laughing at people" was what Widow gave Nickito in another language that was then translated, then that's not too bad and seems fun

but the one I received was just...whaaaaaat



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Abu on October 23, 2017, 06:38:36 PM
I like languages. I would be willing to help the host with them if this gets through.

Now that I get the gimmick, I vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 06:41:35 PM
to make things easier
just gonna vote yes
i'm pretty confident the bidder will work well to make sure these clues make sense
and it could be easier if lusamine helps as well


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Bandero on October 23, 2017, 06:46:19 PM
I don't quite get the Dark Coroner, but I'm going to vote yes, because the bid seems interesting.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: sansaery on October 23, 2017, 06:48:03 PM
I don't get dark coroner but I guess yes since everyone else is voting it so it must make sense somehow


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 23, 2017, 07:12:14 PM
that sounds like Maniac ^
i received
"He's too heavy to check on the devil"
might be Valkyrie but it made no sense


Quote from: Anonymous bidder
It might be Seer since "check" word is found there, yet I know it is a poor translator it made it more challenging. I even retried to translate the translated sentence back to make it more sense, instead of just placing it. If Coroner will reveal of the fact of colors, then Dark Coroner's all about poor translation skills, but do work out when it comes on investigating the sentence itself.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 23, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
tl;dr, checking out the sentence thoroughly works, yet there should be a mix of Investigator and Coroner, but the performance itself is just... poor


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 23, 2017, 07:48:19 PM

what


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 24, 2017, 04:11:34 AM
oh so it's useless
No, he can prevent 4-5 players from getting lynch deliberately. He can save them from being shown as wolves on Seer checks


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 24, 2017, 04:46:02 AM
Mine is next. Yay!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: dar on October 24, 2017, 05:22:34 AM
Human - "He is eating a man"
and for Wolf- "He is a wolfman soap"

Those two messages both sound like werewolf XD


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 24, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Where can I vote for the current bid?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 24, 2017, 09:18:57 AM
Yes, why not?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Leia on October 25, 2017, 12:26:38 PM
Would the bidder be willing to change/remove/argue for Valkyrie a bit? They just seem really UP, especially because they don't know their target and can't really do anything to help them.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 25, 2017, 12:47:07 PM
Would the bidder be willing to change/remove/argue for Valkyrie a bit? They just seem really UP, especially because they don't know their target and can't really do anything to help them.
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
But for now, if Valkyrie's target dies, it doesn't even matter, since...
Quote
Valkyrie - Can only protect herself twice over the course of the game. Wins until the end, along with the randomly specified "Valkyrie's Interest" target (can be anyone but Independents). Cannot know her target.
Though she doesn't know her target, and she doesn't need the target to win after all. This means, she can win alone, or with the specified target.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Leia on October 25, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Oh ok, then I vote Yes. I like the idea of a game without a seer.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Raven on October 25, 2017, 12:50:19 PM
Im voting yes
The dark coroner actually seems like a fun role
If the clues are properly delivered and theres some correlation to the actual role like KKE said, there shoudnt be any problems with it
Besides we've had sooo many games with investigative roles


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kirby on October 26, 2017, 04:07:11 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 26, 2017, 05:33:16 AM
My bid comes next


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 26, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
My bid comes after
What do you think? Will my bid be a TWG?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 26, 2017, 11:59:16 AM
We will see


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: End of Days)
Post by: Kowhai on October 26, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
End of Days, bid by Widow, will be the 104th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
Bid: The Color War

Human - has no abilities
Human
Human
Human
Disguised Wolf - A wolf that appears green on Seer checks
Mason - A human that is shown as wolf on Seer checks

Wolf - A normal wolf with no abilities
Dauber Wolf - Thrice in the game he can paint someone. This paint lasts one day.
Wolf Shaman - A wolf version of Seer

Seer - Every night he can ask the host for the color of a player. The host will reply. For example, Humans are green and Wolves are red
Coroner - Every time someone dies, the Coroner learns their color
Guardian - Every night, the Guardian protects someone of their choice from being killed
Apprentice - A seer who sees innocence and guilt

Color Bomb - Each second night, he can kill a person different from his color's team. If he kills one of his he dies. Wins if he makes it to the end.
Color Shield - Can protect itself and one color team from being painted but not wolved twice in the game. For example in the Night 2 can protect all of the Humans plus Mason or all of the wolves plus Disguised. Wins with everyone.
The Rainbow King - Thrice in the game, he can change one team's color with another's to confuse the seer. The abilities stay like they are (Wolves can wolf, Seers can still learn the '' colors '' of the players) but the color changes. This change lasts one day or one night. Wins if he makes it to the end
Liar - He can be any color. He has no abilities. Thinks like a human
Color Spoiler - 4 times in the game he can destroy color roles' plans. Wins if he makes it to the end.

Tip: Like wolves, The Rainbow King and Color Spoiler know who their teammates are


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Nickito on October 26, 2017, 04:42:41 PM
no what even is this game
it looks like a unicorn threw up on my computer screen


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 26, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
(https://starbuckssecretmenu.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Unicorn-Frappuccino-Starbucks.jpg)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Kowhai on October 26, 2017, 05:03:21 PM
Seer and Apprentice together
Win conditions of Color Bomb, Rainbow King and Color Spoiler are unclear (do they win with others?)
Win condition of Color Shield is also unclear (how do they lose?)
Assuming Color Bomb, Rainbow King and Color Spoiler are all biased, what happens if more than one of them makes it to the end?
Color Bomb and Color Spoiler are confusing
Dauber Wolf and Wolf Shaman seems OP
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Kowhai on October 26, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
no what even is this game
it looks like a unicorn threw up on my computer screen
This doesn't count as a valid reason to vote no
Come on, it should be easy


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Bandero on October 26, 2017, 05:18:36 PM
No. Seer and apprentice, and the color team's win condition is unclear.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 26, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
No because I don't understand the whole plethora of colors


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Nickito on October 26, 2017, 05:20:07 PM
This doesn't count as a valid reason to vote no
Come on, it should be easy
okay no because there are too many colours and it's confusing
and this is a host who doesn't get the concept of apps


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 27, 2017, 03:08:09 AM
Thank you guys


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 27, 2017, 03:09:53 AM
The color team wins if Rainbow King survives.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 27, 2017, 03:26:55 AM
I'm a bit confused about the colour team. Aren't all the roles independents?
Yes I told you that again. They are i n d e p e n d e n t s


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Kowhai on October 27, 2017, 03:40:05 AM
So wait. Are they a team, or are they independent of each other? You're sending conflicting messages here.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: dar on October 27, 2017, 05:05:43 AM
aaaaa-
at first i thought i rebidded..
no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Shendelzare on October 27, 2017, 05:59:47 AM
Others' reasons are enough to make a huge impact for your bid. This, however had my nerves for me to vote No. No exceptions.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 27, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Skip my bid.
I get it.
There's no room for imagination on TWG.
Thanks for accepting anyone else's bids except mine.
None of my bid ever became an official TWG.
Also, all the times I asked to host, never had my request been accepted.
Thank you!


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Bandero on October 27, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
Just because we're voting no on your bid doesn't mean we won't ever vote yes on one of your bids. The Bidding Guide is an extremely useful resource. Perhaps if you took one or two of the roles you made and put them into an otherwise standard game, it would pass. I also recommend sending your bid to a few experienced TWG players to get feedback and revise it. I know I did that with Foreign Affairs and I ended up making a lot of changes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 27, 2017, 09:03:21 AM
Just because we're voting no on your bid doesn't mean we won't ever vote yes on one of your bids. The Bidding Guide is an extremely useful resource. Perhaps if you took one or two of the roles you made and put them into an otherwise standard game, it would pass. I also recommend sending your bid to a few experienced TWG players to get feedback and revise it. I know I did that with Foreign Affairs and I ended up making a lot of changes.
Too late. now is gonna be canceled. no need to change anything. It was a stupid idea as nickito mentioned "indirectly"


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Color War)
Post by: Kowhai on October 27, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
Skip my bid.
I get it.
There's no room for imagination on TWG.
Thanks for accepting anyone else's bids except mine.
None of my bid ever became an official TWG.
Also, all the times I asked to host, never had my request been accepted.
Thank you!
People don't hate your bid because it's unique
They hate it because it's confusing and seemingly no thought has been put into whether or not this would actually work
If people didn't like creative bids, we wouldn't have passed The Perilous Podium, Werewolves in SPACE!, Survivor, A Rift in Time, Blackout, or any number of creative TWGs which had proper thought and time put into them. Maybe next time, think about why people actually disliked your bids, instead of spending your time typing up a passive-aggresive post about how people have some personal grudge against you or something.

The Color War has been removed from the poll at the bidder's request.

New bid:
TWG ____: Players' Preference
In this game, everyone excluding humans and human misguiding get to choose their own roles! They are given a list of choosable roles, and get to choose one of them. If a role is already taken the same role cannot be used again. (which means all the wolves cannot be disguised or brutal)
Human
Human
Human
Town Population
Town Population

Town Investigative (MUST be Seer, Apprentice, Superintendant, Gossip or Investigator, also, Santa if you want to be santa for some reason...)
Town Protective (MUST be Guardian, Pharaoh, Security or Mercenary)
Town Killing
Town Support
Random Town Blue

Wolf Deceptive
Wolf Support
Random Wolf
Random Wolf
Town Misguiding (Mason, Wrathful)

Random Independent Biased
Random Independent Unbiased
Random Independent Selective (Thief, Amnesiac and Stranger)

Insomniac - Knows who visits them each night
Knot Expert - Like Wolfsbane, but survives being lynched instead of being wolfed.
 Watchdog - Twice in the game, the Watchdog can choose to protect themselves from all attacks. All who visit the Watchdog on this night will be revealed to them (the lowest-ranking wolf will be revealed if wolves attacked the Watchdog).
Politician - Every night chooses one person whose vote will be counted twice. The target knows that their vote is doubled
Gentleman - Lynch vote counts twice.

Aside from these few roles, the town support roles can also be gotten.
 Bomber - Gives someone a bomb every night, which will explode in 2 days. The person with the bomb will die with the lynchee.
Cop - Can shoot people two times. Can only shoot from Night 2 onwards. Dies if shoots a blue role.
Gunsmith - Gives someone a gun during 2 nights. The next day, that player learns they have a gun, and can shoot someone via PM. Guns can be saved for a later day, and the Gunsmith cannot give a gun to the same player. Blacksmith in TWGXXI.
Lion Tamer - Has a lion, can unleash it three times in the game. The lion dies if it kills a human or monster.
Psycho - Once in the game, can activate psycho mode, and can kill anybody who visits them.
Sniper - Can kill once each night, starting Night 2. If the Sniper and a wolf are in a 1v1 situation, the Sniper wins, not the wolves.
Wanderer - Can shoot people two times. If they shoot a good blue role, they die the next die. If they shoot a good green role, they won't be able to shoot the next night, and dies the day after the next day.
Witch - Like Monster, but only works once (has 50% chance of working twice), but blue and was for the humans.

Coroner - Every time someone dies, the Coroner learns their colour. Learns the exact role if Seer has already looked at dead person in TWGVII. Purple in TWGIX.
 Elf - Gets two of the wolves’ discussion PMs but doesn’t who the wolves are neither the player they are going to kill.
 Patrol - Watches someone to see who they visit and who visits them. The Patrol will only see the weakest wolf in the event of a wolfing, can watch themself, if more than two people come (wolves count as one) the third and onwards are caught and do not perform their ability.
 Stalker - Chooses someone to see who they visit (Can only see the wolfee if they stalk the normal wolf (brutal wolf if normal wolf dies).
 Warden - Can check someone each night to see who visited. In a wolfing, sees only one randomized wolf. Can check themself Night 3 onwards.
 
Inuit - 3 times over the course of the game, can select one dead person at Night. That person will be resurrected for two Nights/Days, and will then die again. They will be permitted a second final post.
Jock - Can distract someone each night, thus roleblocking them, but they cannot distract the same person twice in a row. If one is distracted, he/she will be notified. Wolves still kill even if one of them is roleblocked. If a Brutal Wolf is roleblocked, that Brutal Wolf isn't able to kill someone if lynched the following day. If roleblocks a member of town, nothing happens
 Necromancer - Once during the game (twice in TWGXVIII), the Necromancer can revive someone dead. They cannot revive themselves. They revive at night. Purple in TWGIX.
 Psychic - Once in the game, the Psychic can control who the wolves attack. Anyone can be killed, including a wolf themselves.
Tide Chimer - Can shift the tides once in the game, causing everyone who did not lynch at the end of the day to vote with the Tide Chimer.
 Wolfsbane - Survives the first attempt on his life by the wolves. Immune to all wolf attacks in TWGVII. Survives the first attempt on his life by anybody in TWG LI.

Disguised Wolf - Appears green (blue in TWGo and TWGII) in Seer checks.
  Idiot/Rascal Wolf - A Rascal Wolf whom is the Mason of the Wolves, or just an idiot wolf--like a normal Wolf, but will have his exact role detected instead of the usual color by the Seer. Apprentice marks him guilty like a Normal Wolf would do...
Dauber Wolf - Can paint someone each night.
Psychotic Wolf - Chooses a target. If the target has performable actions, then its target will perform its action to itself. If the target is a killing role or if the target has no performable action, then nothing will happen. Targeted people will not be warned if they were controlled by the psychotic wolf or not.
Confrere Wolf - Once in the game can choose to check a person. If this person has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use their ability once.
Arctic Wolf - Once over the course of the game, will be able to 'resurrect' another Wolf, so that they will be able to vote and converse with the other wolves, and will count as a Wolf should the wolves be 50% of the remaining players. The resurrected Wolf will not be able to speak in the game topic, vote for someone to lynch or be lynched. If the Arctic Wolf dies, the resurrected Wolf dies too. Due to their unique fur as opposed to regular wolves, the Arctic Wolf will be identified specifically as the Arctic Wolf if they are lynched.
Cowardly Wolf - A Cowardly Wolf that is equivalent to a Refugee, but only has two vests instead of the usual four, and also sided for the Wolves so he can't win with anyone but with Wolves. If all other wolves die, his team loses, as he can't kill out of his cowardice.
Decoy Wolf - Blocks someone from using their ability each night.
Despaired Wolf - If killed by someone, the person who visited the Despaired Wolf will also die. Multiple visitors means that everyone who visited them will die, even if only one killing role visited them.
Eidetic Wolf - Wolf version of the Insomniac.
Fake Wolfsbane - Blocks all attacks from the town the first time they are attacked (excluding Witch kills). The Apprentice sees them as guilty.
Hypnowolf - 3 times per game, can choose a player to hypnotize. This player does the opposite of their role (i.e Seer->Fail Seer, Vigilante-> Guardian)
Magician Wolf - Can convert only one player to a wolf on Night 5 or after, if the player has special powers they lose them if converted.
Brutal Wolf - If a Brutal Wolf is lynched, someone of their choice dies too.
Wolf - An ordinary Wolf with no special powers.
Wolf Shaman - Is just like a Seer, but is a wolf.
Espionage Wolf - Wolf version of a Stalker.

After everyone chooses their roles, a rolelist will be shown comprising all the roles chosen by the users.
If a user does not choose a role by the end of 24 hours, they are given a random role.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: dar on October 27, 2017, 03:48:23 PM
Vote yes for no reason

and update Bid Q


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 27, 2017, 03:55:01 PM
I feel like wolves would be quite OP, as there are quite a few OP wolves on these lists, not quite as much with the humans. Also, every wolf has an ability. Combining that with a NB, one which could be the Assassin which kils every night, and town seems kinda bleeped. Also, are the independent roles assigned randomly, or did the bidder forget to put their lists in?

Voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 27, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
They are assigned randomly.

According to the bidder, it's up to the choice of the wolves whether they wanna choose Disguised Wolf or not..IDK how I feel about that :/


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: sansaery on October 27, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
No, choosing your role hasn't even really been that good when it comes to final results


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Bandero on October 27, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Yes... because I think it would be fun. Not sure how balanced it would be, but it still seems fun.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Nickito on October 27, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
it would be incredibly unbalanced
no, town is screwed unless the Wolves go 'sacrifice a Wolf' or something


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Leia on October 27, 2017, 07:36:27 PM
No, because town doesn't have enough powerful roles to balance out the powerful roles that the wolves have.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 27, 2017, 09:00:16 PM
Wolves could still have, for example, a Magician Wolf and a Psychotic Wolf, which is OP as bleep


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 27, 2017, 09:02:49 PM
Yes... because I think it would be fun. Not sure how balanced it would be, but it still seems fun.
Balance is kinda important
Rainbow mode in ToS can be fun, but it isn't exactly balanced, and Rainbow is dead because no one wants to play.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 27, 2017, 09:10:07 PM
voting No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 28, 2017, 01:02:30 AM
No, no, no, this freedom might be an advantage of wolf winning so no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 28, 2017, 01:24:24 AM
New bid: Residential Area 21

Rolelist later (It has 21 roles that's why)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 28, 2017, 01:28:36 AM
21 is probably too high


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 28, 2017, 01:36:49 AM
Qazikol has a point

If this makes it in I'll not let the wolves choose their roles and just add a regular/disg/rascal wolf, an inspector, a brutal, and an hypno
That seems like a very powerful wolf team, but I guess the human choice might balance it out
I will say though, that I don't think the NB should be able to choose Monster or Arsonist, as they are similar or equal in power to Assassin and Clockmaker. Plus, some of the available roles for NB are direct downgrades to other roles such as Vigi, so maybe prune that a bit.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 28, 2017, 01:41:13 AM
21 is probably too high
Why not? 20? Is that OK?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: memes on October 28, 2017, 01:55:20 AM
i say Y E S
it looks g o o d


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 28, 2017, 01:56:50 AM
Residential Area 17 pls
Residential Area 19


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: memes on October 28, 2017, 05:16:05 AM
Residential Area 19
yes
cool and good


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 28, 2017, 05:27:27 AM
Wolves can be a bit less powerduk if they all have to be some form of Red wolf (but maybe not like Psychotic or Magician and Arctic whatever and all) I think
IDK


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 28, 2017, 06:13:28 AM
IDK
here's the thing about selection bids that i realized later on
they just don't work out in a balanced way unless you make it unfair and have some
players not choose their role, which kind of messes up the overall concept IMO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 28, 2017, 06:23:45 AM
Good point but
hmm
you know what seems interesting?
if there's is a game where everyone gets like an actual role but then we add in more wolves or something tkbalanxe out the power

i don't think anyone has ever tried it before
but it seems interesting
IDK


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: memes on October 29, 2017, 06:56:17 AM
sounds good


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Leia on October 29, 2017, 07:53:41 AM
Batman!
NO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Players' Preference)
Post by: Kowhai on October 30, 2017, 09:52:57 PM
Players' Preference will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Lost Connection
With the exception of the wolves, PMs between players are NOT allowed.

Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Lackey- Knows one blue role.
Knot Expert- Will survive their first lynch.
Disguised Wolf-  Appears green in Seer checks.

Seer-  Each night, they can choose to see one player's colour.
Guardian- Each night, they can choose a player to guard. Whoever they choose cannot be killed by other roles that night.
Stalker - Each night they can follow a player to see who they visit.
Cop- Can shoot 2 players in the game, 1 per night, from Night 2 onwards. Kills themself if they shoot a blue role.
Gentleman- Lynch vote counts for 2.

Wolf- Has no special ability.
Brutal Wolf- When lynched, can kill a player.
Eidetic Wolf- Can see who visits them at night.
Mason- Is told that they are human, but they are seered red.

Sun God- Can kill twice during the day.
Amnesiac- Once per game, can remember the role of a dead player. They will become that role and take that role's win condition.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 30, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
This seems like an interesting idea
Let's try it out to see how it would work
Yeah


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kowhai on October 30, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Dislike Lackey and Gentleman, particularly Lackey, but that's fairly minor and easy to change if necessary
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: sansaery on October 30, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
sure, why not


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Ataino on October 31, 2017, 01:40:58 AM
@Kke and then you told me that less communication is not gonna be accepted lmao


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kowhai on October 31, 2017, 01:41:50 AM
Are you voting?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Shendelzare on October 31, 2017, 02:18:50 AM
Lackey and Gentleman is much some of the OP roles, but if they are changed out of the list, I'll just vote Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kirby on October 31, 2017, 02:38:11 AM
Yes but i would suggest wolf pms only at night periods


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 31, 2017, 04:25:07 AM
@Kke and then you told me that less communication is not gonna be accepted lmao
::)
Communication isn't always an indicator whether a game makes it or not


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Ataino on October 31, 2017, 04:32:50 AM
No yiu'ré the one who said that people xon't like it if I limit communication ::)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kowhai on October 31, 2017, 04:33:23 AM
Are you voting?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on October 31, 2017, 04:34:41 AM
No yiu'ré the one who said that people xon't like it if I limit communication ::)
I was only basing what i said off what people thought of TWG: Comminxoafiok and the fact that people didn't seem to want Nick having a game with no PMs because tick tock or something


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Bandero on October 31, 2017, 04:43:26 AM
Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: -PRoyale- on October 31, 2017, 06:26:54 AM
Yes and Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Leia on October 31, 2017, 01:05:22 PM
Ok cool, so I'll change it so that the wolves can only communicate at night.

As for the Lackey/Gentleman situation, how would you all feel if I changed Gentleman to Wolfsbane and then changed Lackey to Inosmniac?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kowhai on October 31, 2017, 01:44:36 PM
That sounds good


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Nickito on October 31, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
yes
throwback to when I tried this and the Wolves all forgot how to play TWG, so the game was like 2 days long


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: memes on October 31, 2017, 02:13:34 PM
y e s


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Leia on October 31, 2017, 06:00:44 PM
Also, I kinda want to play this and not host, so if you're interesting in hosting (assuming this gets through) PM me


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Abu on October 31, 2017, 06:18:56 PM
I think that Lackey is a good idea for this game because otherwise forming alliances of any sort would be extremely difficult.

Also a Lackey can’t just say "hey guys I know the seer!! Woot!".

I vote yes btw.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kirby on November 01, 2017, 07:39:40 AM
Im fine with lackey for this kind of game
But replace gentleman its useless


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Raven on November 01, 2017, 09:12:25 AM
I actually like it
Vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: dar on November 01, 2017, 02:44:12 PM
vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: dar on November 01, 2017, 07:07:42 PM
The Sea-Sun of Visitations - this sounds like it would be a fun game.
Hypnotic Dangers - sounds like a Chasi bid
Faraway City - this sounds like another fun game, would totally vote yes on it, unless if it is another classic game.


ah you figured it out


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 01, 2017, 07:37:29 PM
tis the sea-sun to be jolly fa la la la laaaaa la la la laaaa


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 02, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
when shall this be updated


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Kowhai on November 02, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Lost Connection, bid by Lu, will be the 105th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG: The Sea-Sun of Visitations!

~tis the season of vacations, tis the sea-sun of visitations~

What's New: These roles alone? BORING! It’s just the roles you’d expect in a standard TWG game, nothing special right? Look again, because many of these roles either receive extra abilities caused by visitations from other roles or can use their abilities during BOTH Day and Night!

Island Sanctuary:  Once in a game, any player can choose to go out to SEA at Island Sanctuary for EITHER one day OR one night. These players will tell the host that they would like Sanctuary the shift PRIOR to the shift they want Sanctuary for. For example, if Cosmic and Blankin want sanctuary during Day 1, they will send in that they would like to go to Sanctuary during Night 1. Players in Island Sanctuary can still vote/perform their actions, except, they are immune to any actions performed against them, including lynching/killing. There will be a public list of all the players in Sanctuary for each shift. (No one can be in Sanctuary on N1) The Sanctuary function will not apply when the game reaches 8 or less players.

Human - receives an ability on N1 (Mason could potentially receive ability as well)
Human - receives an ability on N1
Human - rest of the remaining humans do not receive an ability
Human
Knot Expert - can be lynched if roleblocked at day
Disguised Wolf - receives an ability on N1

Seer - can only check someone’s color during the Night.
Guardian - can guard at both day and night unless visited by the Decoy Wolf
Coroner - receives the exact role of dead player if the Seer already checked the person (Mason included), otherwise just receives the color of players who died during the DAY. If player is painted by the Dauber Wolf, then they will just receive the false color if dies within the 2 nights that paint lasts.
Wolfsbane - immune the first three nights to wolves
Warden - Can check someone Night OR Day, but if chooses to watch during the Day, won't be able to watch the Night of the same number and vice versa

Brutal Wolf - can kill someone if lynched
Dauber Wolf - paint lasts 2 nights, can paint 3 players total in game, including any wolf
Decoy Wolf - can roleblock someone during the day and night, but cannot roleblock the same player twice in a row; can also RB someone from attending Island Sanctuary
Mason

Amnesiac - remembers as someone during the Night; if Wolves happen to kill the Amnesiac the same night the Amnesiac tries to remember as a wolf, the wolves simply wouldn’t kill.
Maniac - will not be able to kill a player if visited by the Decoy wolf during the day
SUN Devil - can see who visits them during the Day; chooses 3 players throughout the game to kill during the day, beats all if makes it to the end

- Autopsy: Sees colors of ONE dead player killed at NIGHT (will see the color of player’s choice - if multiple people die in a night)
- Hostile: Kills anyone who visits but only given one chance for this alert
- Faithful: Sees who their target visits
- Spy: Can see who visits their target
- Strength: Grants immunity for a night of choice


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 02, 2017, 09:02:16 PM
Yes because a celebration is needed for a special day

this is a valid reason

Qazikol [Nov 03 12:02 AM]:   Happy birthday, have an update
Qazikol [Nov 03 12:02 AM]:   http://www.flipline.com/forum/...g1911750


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Kowhai on November 02, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
Voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Raven on November 03, 2017, 01:45:42 AM
Voting yes
Ooh, I like this bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: memes on November 03, 2017, 02:36:05 AM
yes
advanced, but not confusing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Bandero on November 03, 2017, 04:42:17 AM
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: dar on November 03, 2017, 05:02:05 AM
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Nickito on November 03, 2017, 05:03:50 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Leia on November 03, 2017, 05:13:25 AM
Lol yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: sansaery on November 03, 2017, 07:31:02 AM
shore why not


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: dar on November 03, 2017, 07:32:00 AM
shore why not

I'm shell azuz and this is Cnn10


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: dar on November 03, 2017, 07:33:52 AM
:o

I just noticed the new and interesting role called sun devil

either that or it's not new and I've been under a kiwi for 9999 years.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Faiz on November 03, 2017, 07:37:53 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: dar on November 03, 2017, 07:40:22 AM
wait sun gods can see who visits them during the day?! :o


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 03, 2017, 04:00:03 PM
tis the sea-sun to celebrate~ *tosses confetti and blows a noise maker*


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: memes on November 04, 2017, 02:39:04 AM
lemme wave to that tide over there


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 04, 2017, 05:03:49 AM
AHAHAHAHA

this is cRAYzy


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: The Sea-Sun of Visitations)
Post by: Kowhai on November 06, 2017, 01:31:21 PM
The Sea-Sun of Visitations, bid by KrispyKremeExtreme, will be the 106th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG blah blah: Hypnotic Dangers

Location: The X mark in an island.. Uncharted on satellite.



The Town Roles


Human (Can only vote, and wait hopelessly until it's death)
Human
Human

Knot Expert (Knows how to untie a knot.. however when voted majority the second time, will be killed in a different way.)
Mason (Appears red in seerchecks; thinks they're human)


The Higher Representatives of Town


Cop (If shoots blue role, is relieved duty, arrested for treason and taken away from the town; 3 bullets)
Seer (Is believed to have supernatural senses, to see through the personality and traits of a person.. Fooled by weird-thinking humans and cleverly disguised werewolves.)
Wolfsbane (Knows tips and tricks to surviving werewolves, but the werewolves will adapt to the tricks the second attack..)
Psychotic Human ( on those who visit him only once in the game. Kills lowest ranking werewolf first if attacked by werewolves.)



Werewolves; High Priority Threat


Werewolf (First ranked, attacks the targets selected. Can hear from company on their thoughts.)
Disguised Werewolf (Second ranked, just like a werewolf but due to town-like acting, will appear innocent to seerchecks.)
Psychotic Werewolf (Third ranked, can start a kill streak on visitors for a night, ability deactivated if both Werewolf and Disguised Werewolf are dead.)
Shaman Werewolf (Fourth ranked, a seer that was taken captive by someone who was secretly betraying the town, and was suddenly transformed since then. If Werewolf, Disguised Werewolf, and Psychotic Werewolf are dead, has found a schedule to go killing quickly, and then focus their mind.)


Potential Threats


Amnesiac (A traumatic patient that was later released suddenly due to dangerous situations like this; tries to know what they were like.. There's an energy near him that's just waiting for them to think that they are a werewolf.)
Slacker (On the day after the first wolf is lynched, thinks the job is done and doesn't vote.)
Color Hypnotizer (Once in the game, can make an entire color vote a specific person.. Green includes DW, and Red includes Mason.)
Vigilante (Has three bullets, and doesn't care who he shoots, but if he manages to make it to the end.)
Maniac (He wins if he dies by lynch before the end; however, he doesn't win over all. Won't win if killed during the night.)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Ataino on November 06, 2017, 01:49:17 PM
So Slacker and CH wind with everyone?
that means 3 unbiased and 1 biased..
idrk what to  think of this rn


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 06, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
Having a lot of independents at once is just too much. But what purpose? I request for the bidder to answer it anonymously by PMing it to Qazikol.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Leia on November 06, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
Town is fairly UP if the Independents don't side with them.
Slacker seems like a pointless role- they win once town lynches 1 wolf?
When does Color Hypnotizer decide which color they're going to hypnotize?

No for now


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 06, 2017, 02:20:24 PM
Nevermind, no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: dar on November 06, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
No, and bidder should reconsider placement, Slacker should replace a human.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 06, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
No, there are way too many independent and town does not stand a chance with only 4 blue roles, one of them being Psychotic Human which i don't even understand what it does


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Kowhai on November 06, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
The CH wins over all.
Forgot to specify that.
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Slacker doesn't win, he just doesn't lynch because he thinks there's only one werewolf. I agree with Chasi that Slacker should be town placed. I will change to that once the bid gets through.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Kowhai on November 06, 2017, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Sorry, I accidentally left out some parts of the description.

It should be similar to Psychotic Wolf's description but without the wolf stuff, and only once.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Nickito on November 06, 2017, 03:26:25 PM
Psychotic Human is just Psycho
No, town is UP and Slacker just makes no sense


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Bandero on November 06, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
No, town is too UP


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Bandero on November 06, 2017, 08:14:02 PM
Voting no without reading the rolelist because of a simple flaw- no guardian

You needed to read the rolelist to see that there was no guardian, so...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Kowhai on November 06, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
I had no idea that was missing.. I felt something was missing, though.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Kowhai on November 06, 2017, 08:27:04 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
They deal it out with each other, Vigilante's more likely to win if they have a bullet.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Hypnotic Dangers)
Post by: Kowhai on November 09, 2017, 08:49:21 PM
Hypnotic Dangers will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG ___: Faraway City
This TWG takes place in a Faraway City which has a lot of interesting and unused roles.

Human - No special abilities
Human
Human
Human
Bomb - If visited, kills the visitor and themselves, thinks they're human.
Watchdog -  Twice in the game, the Watchdog can choose to protect themselves from all attacks. All who visit the Watchdog on this night will be rev

Investigator - - Can investigate a person each night, and is told two or three roles that target could be.
Pharaoh - Can turn someone into a wolfsbane two times in one game.
Gunsmith - Gunsmith - Gives someone a gun during 2 nights. The next day, that player learns they have a gun, and can shoot someone via PM. Guns can be saved for a later day, and the Gunsmith cannot give a gun to the same player.
Inuit - 3 times over the course of the game, can select one dead person at Night. That person will be resurrected for two Nights/Days, and will then die again. They will be permitted a second final post.
Tide Chimer - Once can shift the tides, making everyone lynch with the Tide Chimer

Wolf - No special abilities
Inspector Wolf - Wolf version of investigator
Eidetic Wolf - Knows who visits them
Brutal Wolf - Can kill someone if lynched

Blackmailer - 3 times in the game, can choose someone to blackmail, meaning that they will no longer be able to vote in the day (though they can speak) and they will have 3 self-votes automatically given to them, which will gradually go up. When someone is blackmailed, it is announced the next day.
Undecided - On either night 1 or 2, must decide either the human fraction or the wolf fraction. Depending on what they choose, they would count as a human/wolf to the ratio. On Night 4, they could upgrade to one of the two random roles from their fraction given to them by the host.
Oracle - Can predict who will get lynched or killed the shift before. If predicted properly, gets a stance. If gets 3 stances, wins with anyone if makes it to the end.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 09, 2017, 08:52:13 PM
Feel like the Pharaoh is OP, would rather have Guardian

I mean, both factions have some OP roles, but the fact that wolves have all Red wolvles with no Mason/Disguised Wolf makes it seem a bit weird


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Kowhai on November 09, 2017, 08:57:45 PM
There's no seer, why would there be disguises


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 09, 2017, 08:58:37 PM
oh bloop

then I vote Yes
but I will still like to see Pharih changed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Raven on November 09, 2017, 10:06:32 PM
Vote yes
Seems fun


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Ataino on November 10, 2017, 04:48:12 AM
no because it's archi's]/s]
Seems fun but I hate being a bomb
You can actual.y kill the Seer or a blue role


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 10, 2017, 05:13:16 AM
- Oracle's change is a good thing to see.
- With no core-investigative roles (Seer and the like), it's necessary to have no colors like that.

Voting yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Bandero on November 10, 2017, 05:45:13 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 10, 2017, 09:14:52 AM
Probably for usual... um... rearrangements.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: dar on November 10, 2017, 06:59:13 PM
okay yes
i love voting


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: TotesAngel on November 12, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
I hate it when the host reveals themself.

It ruins the surprise of who bid.

Also, want to see who bid the losing bids.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: dar on November 12, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
I can tell you that Hypnotic dangers was mine.

Forgetting guardian was a mistake. Faraway City is now obviously Archi's.

Who has Revenge of the Beep again? Okay don't tell me.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 13, 2017, 04:39:05 AM
what the heck is that title...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Abu on November 13, 2017, 05:09:29 AM
What's wrong with Faraway City? I don't see anything wrong with the title.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 05:09:57 AM
I think she meant the one bid in the bidding queue.. I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Kowhai on November 13, 2017, 05:38:20 AM
Faraway City, bid by Archi, will be the 107th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
TWG whatever: Revenge of the Beep

Originating in a Satire Game made by a 12-year old with the username of Chasi Cheesemaster Weran, the honker honks every night and roleblocks the cop. In this game, there are three honkers, and four wolves. The honkers are unbiased, which means that they will win with whoever meets the win condition. They are only prevented from winning if they all die. They do not know each other, and the player will be notified if they have been honked. There will not be a fail honker for this game, and the honk will roleblock any role with a special ability that they can choose to activate. The person with the ability activated won't kill the honker except if they are the Psycho, or it's wolf equivalent. Gracefully, the honk roleblock will prevent the ability from being used, so that you can use it once again. The honk will do nothing else.

Here is the role list.

The basic people of town usually don't have a special ability. The only basic town person that has a color other than green is usually the Mason.

Human - This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed.
Human
Human

Mason - As explained in the description, this is a Human, that is seered Red.

Now here are the representatives of town, they have a special ability, some that can be activated, and some that is only activated under a special occasion.

Seer - Can recieve either a color or a honk (duh), not both, each night.
Guardian - Can guard anyone from being honked or killed. Will not recieve a honk if the target is honked, can only be killed if wolves attack target. The target will not be killed if the guardian is guarding the target. Can be killed if guarding psycho.
Wolfsbane - Can survive the first attack from a wolf. I do not know how, but it's possible.
Cop - If fires at a town representative, will instantly shoot self. Has three uses.
Psycho - Once in the game, can kill any and every player that visits this player for a night. Will not be roleblocked by a honk. Instead will kill the honker.

Here are the werewolves, the main threat to the town. They can kill each night, but only one per night. If visits a Psycho while he uses his ability, the first ranked will be killed. The four know each other.

Basic Wolf (1) - Can only kill, be honked, or converse with the werewolves.
Disguised Wolf (2) - Is a werewolf, but seered green.
Brutal Wolf (3) - If lynched, will kill a player, essentially taking him/her down with the wolf. Otherwise just a werewolf.
Shaman Wolf (4) - Is the werewolf equivalent of the Seer, otherwise just a werewolf.

Here are some of the other roles. They do not know each other. One could be either a biased or unbiased. Biased means they win over all when their win conditions are met. Unbiased means that they win with whoever meets their win conditions.

Amnesiac (Unbiased)
- Once in the game, can remember a dead player's role. Wins with either remembered player's team or, if hasn't used his ability, with everyone. Not roleblocked by honk.
Vigilante (Biased) - Can shoot anyone, but himself (duh), thrice in the game. Wins over all. Roleblocked by honk.
Honker (Unbiased) - They can honk a player every night. Does not know the other honkers. Not roleblocked by honk.
Honker (Unbiased)
Honker (Unbiased)


Now, play safely, or kill literally everyone, or do some other strat, your choice.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Faraway City)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 13, 2017, 05:40:06 AM
I would like to vote "NO" since...
- Name's too damn obvious, I don't want ruining surprises.
- Having three damn honkers are just too far.
- Wondering what's the usual goal of a Honker?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Ataino on November 13, 2017, 05:57:53 AM
I would like to vote "NO" since...
- Name's too damn obvious, I don't want ruining surprises.
- Having three damn honkers are just too far.
- Wondering what's the usual goal of a Honker?
- Name isn't really why you can say no
- I guess that's true but Cheesy ChasiMaster Weren can change to 1-2
- 1. They're unbiased
2. They win with whoever wins as long as at least one of them is alive. Read the description of the game first


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 13, 2017, 05:59:47 AM
- It's generally a very minor issue, and I haven't stated it.
- Okay.
- Forgot.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Ataino on November 13, 2017, 06:00:11 AM
- Ok
- Ok
- Ok


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Nickito on November 13, 2017, 06:01:45 AM
No because the bidder spent more time explaining Humans than the new role, which still makes no sense


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Abu on November 13, 2017, 06:22:15 AM
Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 06:29:19 AM
No because the bidder spent more time explaining Humans than the new role, which still makes no sense

I was going to vote yes but after reading this I reread the description and this is what it consisted of

"This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed. This role can only vote, and be honked, or killed."

Vote yes, because the fake desc was a joke. Actual desc is in the bid. I don't see anything wrong with the honker now that it can roleblock the wolves. The bidder has my honker an upgrade to actually fit TWG.
I am a little surprised that the Honkers are not town-aligned though.. Well, they can team up with wolf if they want.. I think. The rolelist is actually good to, with a guardian.. Is he OP or not if he can only be killed guardin- oh I think it means he only dies from werewolves when guarding his target.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: memes on November 13, 2017, 09:50:25 AM
yes
genius idea


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Leia on November 13, 2017, 10:09:48 AM
Ok wait- this might actually be kind of interesting.

- If I was a honker, and I honked KKE, who was seer, would she then receive a PM with the word "Honk" on it instead of her results?
- If the wolfsbane was honked the night they were attacked by the wolves, would they still survive the attack?
- If the Cop was honked the night they chose to use a shot, would they waste their shot?
- Slightly confused about the Guardian's description- it says that the Guardian can protect anyone from being killed or being honked, but then it says that if the player that the Guardian is protecting gets honked, the Guardian won't also be honked? So which is it- can the Guardian guard players from being honked or not


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Ataino on November 13, 2017, 10:55:18 AM
Ok wait- this might actually be kind of interesting.

- If I was a honker, and I honked KKE, who was seer, would she then receive a PM with the word "Honk" on it instead of her results?
Oh my god that would be epic
- If the wolfsbane was honked the night they were attacked by the wolves, would they still survive the attack?
They're gonna get a loud honk instead rip
- If the Cop was honked the night they chose to use a shot, would they waste their shot?
What if they use a honker thing instead of a pistol?
- Slightly confused about the Guardian's description- it says that the Guardian can protect anyone from being killed or being honked, but then it says that if the player that the Guardian is protecting gets honked, the Guardian won't also be honked? So which is it- can the Guardian guard players from being honked or not
My guess is that he instead gets the honk


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Kowhai on November 13, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Nickito is sorta correct, and I don't think that description mock did much good, Chasi.

I spent a little too much time explaining human.

Also, Guardian could only be killed from werewolves if guarding his target. I should've clarified that.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 13, 2017, 12:41:07 PM
No because there are already three honkers and there will simply be too much foleblockijg going on.Kind of still want to perform my role if i have an ability..


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: sansaery on November 13, 2017, 02:01:46 PM
yes a million times yes


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Ataino on November 13, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
yes
it see;s fun
imagine how weird it'll be if 3 random people gets HONKd
it's gonna be weird
we liek mudkipz i mean weird things


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
yes
it see;s fun
imagine how weird it'll be if 3 random people gets HONKd
it's gonna be weird
we liek mudkipz i mean weird things

I wanna see three players get honked too
Not just the two.
I only made it two because it was just a test.
Thank you mr bid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 03:06:32 PM
I think when someone bids in, then we can update the poll.

THERE'S LITERALLY NO BIDS
If you did send one, it was probably when you were so successful last time or you did wanna send two bids at once.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Kowhai on November 13, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
No
Honkers will interfere a lot if there's three of them, and make it difficult for anyone to do anything
It's too easy to win as them
It would be very easy for them to side with town and roleblock wolves, making things rather easy for them


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
5 - no
5? - yes

Someone break the tie


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Bandero on November 13, 2017, 05:03:10 PM
No, it's really confusing and there are too many honkers.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: sansaery on November 13, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
5 - no
5? - yes

Someone break the tie

Mine was sarcastic, no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 13, 2017, 08:55:24 PM
7 - no
4 - yes

Qazikol update pls- oh there's none queued.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: dar on November 18, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
Seven days and no bid..

Has TWG come to an end?

I don't plan on bidding because I haven't thought of anything new yet..

Maybe that's the reason why TWG is coming to an end.

Unless Nickito just like generates new games.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 01:37:36 PM
I got one coming up
Wait for Qazikol to come online and there should be an update


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: MariaYuki on November 18, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
No. 3 honkers is too much.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Revenge of the Beep)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Revenge of the Beep will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Killing School Life


Ultimate Lucky Student - No special ability (Human).
Ultimate Lucky Student
Ultimate Lucky Student
Ultimate Rich Guy - Bought an extra vote (Gentleman).
Ultimate Gamer - Stays up late playing games, so they see who visits (Insomniac).
Ultimate Imposter - A green Wolf (Disguised Wolf).



Ultimate Oracle - Can look into someone and see their colour (Seer).
Ultimate Bodyguard - Can and will protect anyone from anything (Guardian).
Ultimate Spy - Is very good at following someone and seeing what happens to them (Warden).
Ultimate Nurse - Can look at dead bodies and learn information, such as their cause of death and colour (Coroner).
Ultimate Gunsmith - Can make and pass out two guns to other students to shoot during the day (Gunsmith).



Ultimate Captain's Daugher - Knows all the Wolves, but the Wolves know them. Also, the Captain's Daughter is a Wolf (Wolf).
Ultimate Werewolf - A particularly violent werewolf who will kill someone after being lynched (Brutal Wolf).
Ultimate Con Artist - 3 times per game, permanently changes someone's colour through misdirection (Dauber Wolf).
Ultimate Unlucky Student - They think they are a Lucky Student, but they are red (Mason).



Ultimate Chemist - Brought enough chemicals to kill someone 3 times. They will die the night after they are poisoned (Poisoner).
Ultimate ??? - Doesn't remember their talent, but they think they're like another student (Amnesiac).
Ultimate Board Mod - Really doesn't make sense, wants to be lynched (Maniac).



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: MariaYuki on November 18, 2017, 02:27:13 PM
Yes. Anything Danganronpa is yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: dar on November 18, 2017, 02:29:57 PM
yass


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 18, 2017, 02:31:49 PM
I will vote No for now
It’s literally a normal bid with nothing special
and changing the names of roles is useless


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 02:33:46 PM
yes for Ultimate Board Mod


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 18, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
I don’t wanna have to play a game
where i have to look at the rolelist every time
to know what role each person is trying to talk about based on the game theme


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
but
but this game lets Captain's Daughter see the light of day


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: sansaery on November 18, 2017, 02:36:34 PM
No this is literally a themed game and those are stupid


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
lol judge the role list
this game is Gunsmith and Poisoner: The Revival


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: sansaery on November 18, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
It's boring what am I supposed to say


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 02:39:25 PM
so the problem isn't that it's bad, but that it's not good?

there are no problems with this role list


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: TotesAngel on November 18, 2017, 02:39:37 PM
WHY ULTIMATE


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Ataino on November 18, 2017, 02:40:19 PM
Yes. Anything Danganronpa is yes.
^
this and lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 18, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
Soooo many games to be played tho


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Ataino on November 18, 2017, 02:43:15 PM
No this is literally a themed game and those are stupid
bruh what the actual heck
this'll be f u n
If I were excited why wouldn't I sign lmao
Hell yeah


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
I feel like we've already got so many bids lined up already
Granted, Chasi owning every other bid could help in slowing the rate of successful bids
But even so, I don't think we should clog up the waiting list with mediocre bids that just frustrate people with really cool bids because they have to wait 10 bleeping games to finally host.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
Also this:
I don’t wanna have to play a game
where i have to look at the rolelist every time
to know what role each person is trying to talk about based on the game theme
Voting no BTW


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on November 18, 2017, 02:46:49 PM
No, it's pretty boring, and we're playing a game just like it right now that's just a rolelist rename.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Ataino on November 18, 2017, 03:04:20 PM
imo @KKE @Qaz the host (Nick?) will obviously be putting (real rolename) after each special rolename (if it's nick then that is sure to happen) since there's already quite a lot of times where they did it on the role list, plus this one is easier to remember, as the Ultimate is related to the power. And Gunsmith and Poisener/spell thing whatever the name is isn't "avergae" that's new stuff (by new i mean not so used)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 03:13:03 PM
I feel like we've already got so many bids lined up already
Granted, Chasi owning every other bid could help in slowing the rate of successful bids
But even so, I don't think we should clog up the waiting list with mediocre bids that just frustrate people with really cool bids because they have to wait 10 bleeping games to finally host.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Ataino on November 18, 2017, 03:15:09 PM

Gunsmith and Poisener/spell thing whatever the name is isn't "avergae" that's new stuff (by new i mean not so used)


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
I feel like we've already got so many bids lined up already
Granted, Chasi owning every other bid could help in slowing the rate of successful bids
But even so, I don't think we should clog up the waiting list with mediocre bids that just frustrate people with really cool bids because they have to wait 10 bleeping games to finally host.
I mean when I put this argument out there I was the bad guy, people literally demanded I quit the TWC for having such a bad opinion


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
Because you were voting no on every game
I'm just going to vote no on games that don't actually have any positives and are merely functional


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 03:24:46 PM

Gunsmith was literally just in Revolution, and it's not particularly interesting
Poisoner is boring, it's literally vig with a delay
Hardly selling points


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
rip looks like I'm better off not bidding and somehow still hosting


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Leia on November 18, 2017, 03:27:35 PM
No because it seems boring, there's not really anything that would be interesting or new and I'm not the hugest fan of themed games to begin with


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: dar on November 18, 2017, 03:29:26 PM
I mean when I put this argument out there I was the bad guy, people literally demanded I quit the TWC for having such a bad opinion

quit the twc now or else

Actually I am starting to see the downsides of this bid (not mine btw).

Vote no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 03:32:19 PM
it's my bid

okay for next time what should I change? change will be hard because I actually like the game for all of the reasons everyone says it sucks, so by extension I can't get a bid in that I like


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: dar on November 18, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
nick you aren't supposed to reveal the bidder while you're bidding

i learned that after quite a while.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 18, 2017, 03:36:46 PM
*facepalm*


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 18, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
it's my bid

okay for next time what should I change? change will be hard because I actually like the game for all of the reasons everyone says it sucks, so by extension I can't get a bid in that I like
Well, start by making it original through something other than names and a couple of boring old roles


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 03:50:25 PM
I'll try putting some new roles in the next one

probably no gimmicks unless I think of a really good one


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: sansaery on November 18, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
bruh what the actual heck

Sarcasm bud, I hated the idea of the game but signed up for the lols


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 18, 2017, 09:36:59 PM
but you just bid a 'boring game'

I see, the problem is two very similar games back to back


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 19, 2017, 02:00:09 AM
Voting no. This was just too much of contradictions...


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Cosmic on November 19, 2017, 02:07:34 AM
The argument that renaming role should is bad is irrelevant because you all seem to be fine with it for this most recent game. I think it is bad but you can’t just allow it for certain games and that criticise it for others.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Cosmic on November 19, 2017, 05:55:36 AM
I haven’t been reading the Bidding topic, I wasn’t referring to upcoming games, I was referring to games I have played recently. I’m sure there are some good games coming up.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 19, 2017, 06:26:38 AM
The argument that renaming role should is bad is irrelevant because you all seem to be fine with it for this most recent game. I think it is bad but you can’t just allow it for certain games and that criticise it for others.
Well
it really depends on the previous games that get approved, how many are on the queue, etc


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 19, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Not really, I used roles which are rarely used, which is a good thing according to the bidding guide
I was really reluctant on voting yes on Temmie's bid, because it feels like cheating when users are struggling to get bids in which have a lot of hard work put into them, and users who mash up a few roles and call it a day, and they get in.
It's not like gimmicks and new roles are everything, but it's encouraged to use roles which haven't been used in a long time. You don't know the time I spent researching on which roles would be more fun to play as
It's not like your bid is bad, I like themed games and the use of Poisoner and gunsmith but I definitely eould've voted yes if there were other roles like Wizard and Arctic wolf
okay but Wizard and Arctic Wolf aren't good roles
the problem is that most of the unused roles have good reasons for being unused


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 19, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
well Blackmailer is better than a lot of unused roles, so I'd say no


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 20, 2017, 03:39:01 PM
aw i’m so sad because i like totally wanted to make a snow/winter/christmas themed bid and have it played in december by having someone else bid it but then i realized that even if i get someone to bid right now, the game won’t be played until after probably :(

it was gonna be so cute


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: sansaery on November 20, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
probably wouldn't have been accepted because themed bids are ew


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 20, 2017, 04:24:23 PM
it was gonna have a gimmick lol


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 20, 2017, 04:39:59 PM
There's nothing wrong with themed bids

if I had it my way the majority of bids would be themed


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 20, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
True ^

I think what Soph meant was that people don't like themed bids where everything gets reskinned


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on November 20, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
yeah that's what a themed bid is


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: dar on November 22, 2017, 06:41:12 AM
I accidentlaly load page one, scroll down, and i see a bid in the queue..

"Say YES to recolors."

I don't think I have a clue on how it will turn out.

Will it turn out like a dauber game?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 22, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
or say no to recolors


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on November 22, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
Killing School Life will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Say YES to recolors

What's I done to the rolelist?

Also, jsyk, The color of the name is what the Nowadays seer will pick up. The color of the description is what the Past Days seer will pick up.

Human - pff useless
Human
Human
Knot Expert - survives lynch, however when voted up the second time, will be chopped.
Mason - human but is blue, and thinks human

Red Guardian - Guards red roles only, fails guard if guards a green or blue player.
Green Guardian - Guards green roles only, fails guard if guards a red or blue player.
Past Days Seer - Seers people the way the would be seered in regular games, are told they are just a seer.
Nowadays Seer -  Seers people as they're colored in this game, are told they are just a seer.
Bane - Survives the first night attack.

Wolf (1) - kills during the night.
Brutal Wolf (2) - same as wolf if wolf is killed; kills another person if lynched
Disguised Wolf (3) - same as wolf but can choose a color to stick as during the game. kills if wolf and brutal wolf are killed. Will just be seered green to the Past Days seer.
Shaman Wolf (4) - will be nowadays seer, same as wolf if all the other wolves are killed.


Amnesiac - Can remember a role that has died once in the game.
Vigilante - Can shoot thrice in the game, and only during the night. Wins over all if makes it to the end.
Maniac - Wins with the other players if lynched, takes another player with him/her after lynch.
Fool - Wins with the other players if lynched.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 22, 2017, 08:10:12 PM
****Say NO to recolors


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 22, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
Archi you ninjad me by 2 seconds ahaha


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Nickito on November 22, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
no, this game is messy and too complicated


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Leia on November 22, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
No, town is too UP


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: sansaery on November 22, 2017, 08:25:48 PM
say NO


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Bandero on November 22, 2017, 08:28:33 PM
No, and I don't think I need to explain why


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 22, 2017, 08:39:06 PM
You do


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: sansaery on November 22, 2017, 08:40:00 PM
fine, no for nick's reasons


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Bandero on November 22, 2017, 09:16:16 PM
the game is too messy and complicated and confusing


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 22, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
This one probably drank too much cat milk, probably no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Abu on November 23, 2017, 04:31:41 AM
Yes, it looks like a wonderful mess.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Raven on November 24, 2017, 02:29:43 PM
Once a bid makes it as an official TWG, I wonder how long it takes before the game actually starts

I just saw that WWIS was bidded in May and was played in September


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Nickito on November 24, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
That's a problem I agree


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 24, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
Once a bid makes it as an official TWG, I wonder how long it takes before the game actually starts

I just saw that WWIS was bidded in May and was played in September
It actually passed the poll in August, the first, unsuccessful version was bid in May.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 24, 2017, 03:54:10 PM
We have soooooooooo many games to be played now tho :-X


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 24, 2017, 04:00:45 PM
Hence why it's a good idea to start voting no on bids which are merely passable, since they account for a large number of the games waiting to be played.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Abu on November 24, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
Hence why it's a good idea to start voting no on bids which are merely passable, since they account for a large number of the games waiting to be played.
We should probably cleanse the list. Re-votes, anyone?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 24, 2017, 04:04:12 PM
That’s not fair tbh ^
don’t like that idea


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Abu on November 24, 2017, 04:10:57 PM
Okay, let's just vote better from now on.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on November 24, 2017, 06:30:45 PM
Can I submit a bid without a rolelist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 24, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
No


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on November 24, 2017, 07:00:55 PM
Let me rephrase the question...
Can I submit a bid without divulging the rolelist?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Abu on November 24, 2017, 07:12:07 PM
What if we want to create a minor themed game but are afraid people will say "no, theme game."

Would we be allowed to bid it as if it had no theme but then change a few role names? Not so much that it’s a totally different game, mind you.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on November 24, 2017, 07:15:36 PM
What's wrong with theme games? Those are the best kind, especially if the host doesn't post the rolelist publicly and everyone is left to speculate abilities and roles


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Abu on November 24, 2017, 07:17:02 PM
What's wrong with theme games? Those are the best kind, especially if the host doesn't post the rolelist publicly and everyone is left to speculate abilities and roles
That’s an Any game, not a theme game.
I’m talking about games where roles have different names to fit a theme.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on November 24, 2017, 07:24:26 PM
No no I'm talking about a theme game in which the host invents new roles to fit specific characters but doesn't reveal these roles/characters because that would ruin them. It makes claiming a lot more fun In a game I was in, 3 people claimed the same character. In another, someone claimed 3 different characters and everyone believed him all 3 times.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Nickito on November 24, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
can we start Lunatic Asylum sign ups soon


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Raven on November 26, 2017, 05:53:48 AM
How long is the voting period for a bid?



Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 26, 2017, 06:12:28 AM
3 days
Updating in a little bit


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Say YES to recolors)
Post by: Kowhai on November 26, 2017, 06:14:59 AM
Say YES to recolors will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Human - yor average hooman
Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert - yor average knot expert
Disguised Wolf - yor average disg wolf


Seer - yor average seer
Cop - yor average cop
Guardian - yor average guardian
Necromancer - yor average necro
Elf - Gets two of the wolves’ discussion PMs but doesn’t who the wolves are neither the player they are going to kill. (Already existing role - not mine)
Bane - Immune to first attack by Lycaon, Medusa or Wolf


Wolf - yor average wolf
Brutal Wolf - yor average brutal wolf
Wolf Shaman - yor average wolf shaman
Mason
 

Lycaon - On even nights, stuns someone (prevent from voting the next day).
         Once in the game, can turn into a wolf and go on a rampage (kills their target + everyone who visits them)
         When they turn into a wolf, they turn red so if they are seered that night, theyre red
Medusa - On every odd night, transforms into her Gorgon form and can turn someone into stone (roleblock)
                 Once in the game, transforms into her Ultra Gorgon form for 2 nights, where she stays at home and kills anyone who visits her
                 The town are informed that a medusa has turned into an ultra gorgon. The wolves and independants are not. <- creates a chance to deceive and pretend and do all the drama bloop

Fool - yor average fool


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 26, 2017, 06:16:24 AM
Little confused. Might as well abstain until more evidences.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 26, 2017, 06:20:37 AM
Neither of the new independents have win conditions specified.
Assuming they're both biased, since they seem to be designed like that, that means there are 2 independent biased roles, which is too many, and what would happen if both made it to the end?
Also, Elf is a bad role which can be negated by wolves spamming their chat, or not talking at all.
Voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 26, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
>yes they'ré biased
>they probably win together
>elf can be changed
Also, the 2 unbiased aren't your average only killing. So it''s not many deaths.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 26, 2017, 07:20:18 AM
I don’t understand what’s going on here. Voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
No because what is any of this


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: dar on November 26, 2017, 08:47:21 AM
yes.. I thought this was my bid for a solid minute, then I realized say YES to recolors was mine.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 26, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Guys instead of saying:

Little confused. Might as well abstain until more evidences.

I don’t understand what’s going on here. Voting no.

No because what is any of this

You should ask actual questions about what the bidder should include cuz I have no idea what else I should add to it (jes its mine)

Its my first time bidding and I would appreciate it if you could help me figure this bloop out


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 09:19:49 AM
Elf is a bad role, neither of the new Independents have win conditions listed, how/why does the town find out but not the wolves?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 26, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
Guys instead of saying:

You should ask actual questions about what the bidder should include cuz I have no idea what else I should add to it (jes its mine)

Its my first time bidding and I would appreciate it if you could help me figure this bloop out
Remove the descriptions for common roles. "Yor average ____" is distracting.

And you need more descriptions for the independents.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: dar on November 26, 2017, 09:24:12 AM
Remove the descriptions for common roles. "Yor average ____" is distracting.

And you need more descriptions for the independents.

Can I at least put their basic actions in so taht you know that I know what I'm doing?


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 09:25:14 AM
yes
putting 'yor average Seer' isn't helpful to anyone


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: sansaery on November 26, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
No because of Qazikol's reasoning


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Bandero on November 26, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
I like the concept, but I think the Elf should be removed, and you need to provide win conditions for the independent roles.

If you do that I'll vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 26, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
You should've added that wonderful hogger role and yes, I was active in the shoutbox when you mentioned it.

Actually, I asked Ruki abt what the role was called cuz I completely forgot abt it but sure I can add it if people agree to it

Hogger
Hogger - Twice in the game, the hogger can swap their role with another player for 2 nights
             They acquire that role's colour and abilities for that duration so if for example:
             Archi the hogger decides that they're going to target blankin the coroner,
          1. Archi is now coloured blue and can see the colours of those lynched
              He shows up as blue in seer/shaman checks
          2. blankin is now coloured black and can do nothing for the rest of the duration
              
       -Players are informed when they have been targeted by the Hogger.
       -Targets will not be informed of the Hogger's results and findings after they are reverted back to
              their original roles
              
            Advantages:
- They can convince the rest of the players of their 'innonece' using their target's abilities or colour
- They can use the characters abilities to find info abt other players, for example a

            Disadvantages:
- The wolves might kill them if the shaman checks you as blue
- Players know that a hogger is in the game and so will be cautious abt publicly claiming a role which makes it hard to actually use their ability well, its utterly useless on roles like a fool or a hooman

Win Conditions: Unbiased
                        Wins if makes it to the end
                        Does not beat all
                        No winning targets
Any questions?

Ok lets revise the rolelist, shall we?

Role List:
Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac (replacing the Knot Expert)
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Cop
Guardian
Necromancer
Bane
Psycho (replacing Elf)

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Lycaon:-

     
Abilities: 1. On each even night, Lycaon can stun someone (prevent them from voting the next day)
                   2. Once in the game, Lycaon can turn into a werewolf and go on a rampage (kills their target +
                       their target's visitors)
                      ~ If the target is the insomniac, Lycaon will kill them but they may mention the player's name in
                          their last will which is a big threat
                      ~ If the target is the psycho on psycho mode, Lycaon will die and the Psycho will live on to see
                          the light of the day
                      ~ If the target is protected by the guardian, the guardian dies (as they are one of the visitors) but
                          the target lives

     Win Conditions: ~ Beats all he makes it to the end (exception: wins with Medusa if she also makes it to the
                          end
                             ~ Neutral Biased
Hogger (replacing Medusa if people agree to it)
Fool


            


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 26, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
Hogger has potential to just bleep up the humans really bad, and yet if it's unbiased with no other conditions to fulfil, it has no reason to do so. I was Potion Maker in Magicus Extremos, a really cool role idea, but because my win condition was to just live to the end, I revealed at the start, and then I just didn't need to do anything for the rest of the game. Same thing'll happen here, you'd need some kind of secondary objective to make it work, and if you do, there's still the matter of it having quite some bleep-up potential.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 26, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
Hogger has potential to just bleep up the humans really bad, and yet if it's unbiased with no other conditions to fulfil, it has no reason to do so. I was Potion Maker in Magicus Extremos, a really cool role idea, but because my win condition was to just live to the end, I revealed at the start, and then I just didn't need to do anything for the rest of the game. Same thing'll happen here, you'd need some kind of secondary objective to make it work, and if you do, there's still the matter of it having quite some bleep-up potential.

GOD DAMMNIT QAZ
IS IT POSSIBLE TO SATISFY YOU?
YOU SOMEHOW FIND THE TEENIEST TINIEST THINGS

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

oke I give up
Im not adjusting bloop till tomorrow
Im tired
bye


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 26, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
If this is based off the second rolelist, voting No because the Hogger is very OP and should be labeled as Bias if it can affect the game this much, but at the same time, it could theoretically make a deal to act as a Refugee and still win, which takes away a lot of fun.

Also, having 2 Independents who act like a Bias (even if one is labeled Unbiased) is pretty OP on town. If you want to know why, check out TWG: Stay Alive.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 26, 2017, 01:50:24 PM
Guys instead of saying:

You should ask actual questions about what the bidder should include cuz I have no idea what else I should add to it (jes its mine)

Its my first time bidding and I would appreciate it if you could help me figure this bloop out
I don't seem to have much time in case you don't know.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 26, 2017, 03:23:56 PM
I don't seem to have much time in case you don't know.
Asking a question is shorter than saying "much confusion. I'll abstain until further evidence" + "I don't seem to have much time in case you don't know"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Shendelzare on November 26, 2017, 03:58:57 PM
So what's wrong for some reason besides having too much work in real life tho? xD

GG anyway.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 28, 2017, 05:08:27 AM
Well, i guess its not getting any more votes
meh
I tried

I don't know how to rework it so Ill just lay off on the bidding for now
Byew


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 28, 2017, 05:09:34 AM
Nothing @widow xd
Well yes anyways @qaq


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kirby on November 28, 2017, 10:52:15 AM
voting yes because hogger is a unique role that would make make things actually really interesting
although I suggest making it 1 night


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 28, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
Oh look at the queue, another Flipline based bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 28, 2017, 01:28:17 PM
voting yes because hogger is a unique role that would make make things actually really interesting
although I suggest making it 1 night

thanks  :cheery:

hmmmmm... maybe i should change it to 1 night then?



Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 28, 2017, 01:59:21 PM
By the way, I switch to yes for Myths.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Bandero on November 28, 2017, 02:00:14 PM
Voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 28, 2017, 02:01:15 PM
Oh look at the queue, another Flipline based bid
for some reason this instantly made this pop in my head
Anyways, GG Sky on winning for the wolves!

Also, did you know that a Skylark is an Aeronaut Medic in Remnants of Skystone, one of Flipline's oldest games  which is no longer playable?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 28, 2017, 02:09:25 PM
oooh is it greenviceroy's bid?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Bandero on November 28, 2017, 02:09:52 PM
Maybe


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 28, 2017, 02:10:03 PM
Idk it just popped in my head xd


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 28, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
So wait, why is everyone voting yes on a bid with noted flaws that the bidder has declined to fix?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 28, 2017, 02:15:41 PM
So wait, why is everyone voting yes on a bid with noted flaws that the bidder has declined to fix?
Do we have to explain?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 28, 2017, 02:17:07 PM
No, but it's generally good for people to at least acknowledge noted flaws in their vote


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 28, 2017, 02:48:14 PM
Just because your bid wasn’t winning initially doesn’t mean you have to act all sullen about it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 28, 2017, 03:07:55 PM
Blanki is lazy. Blanki thought her bid won'the make it in. Blanki will fix them if it does. Blanki is good girl.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 28, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
Until that happens, you judge the current bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 28, 2017, 06:56:09 PM
To all people who voted Hogger because it seems cool
the hogger doesn’t have to do anything in order to win as it is unbiased
and it has no win condition besides acting as a refugee


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: dar on November 28, 2017, 07:31:34 PM
erm qazzy my bid isn't on the Q


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 29, 2017, 04:49:46 AM
Has it not been 3 days?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 29, 2017, 04:54:02 AM
Not quite yet, and I want the new policies to be implemented at the time that the next bid goes up, while also wanting those policies to be up for vote for a day, so it'll be updated slightly late. Votes are quite close currently, so it's a good time to get your vote in if you have yet to do so.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 29, 2017, 05:08:45 AM
Blanki is lazy. Blanki thought her bid won'the make it in. Blanki will fix them if it does. Blanki is good girl.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Srry, I thought it wouldn't make it in so I thought Id let it move on and then rebid it after reworking the new roles

What if I change the Hogger to biased?
Is 2 too many biased roles?

I need to change the win conditions no matter what or he can just reveal and sit there with his popcorn like Qaz said



Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 29, 2017, 05:12:16 AM
Maybe make it a win with anyone if alive at end


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 29, 2017, 05:13:28 AM
That's what it already is?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 29, 2017, 05:13:53 AM
Well
you can’t change the entire game

if everyone kept doing that while their game is up
then theoretically everyone can just win if they changed it until it was good
and it isn’t fair to people who have lost their game before and didn’t change their game but instead had their game passed a second time


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Ataino on November 29, 2017, 05:15:27 AM
That's what it already is?
oh


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Raven on November 29, 2017, 05:16:27 AM
That's what it already is?

yeh

Well
you can’t change the entire game

if everyone kept doing that while their game is up
then theoretically everyone can just win if they changed it until it was good
and it isn’t fair to people who have lost their game before and didn’t change their game but instead had their game passed a second time

Oh I see
I get your point
Well, if you look at it that way, then Hogger wouldnt have been a role at all
If I can't change it, then the bid everyone is voting for is the original one with the "yor average ___" and the unexplained win conditions for Medusa and Lycaon

So guys vote no for this one and Ill rebid it once I think its good enough


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 29, 2017, 07:56:48 AM
I am changing my vote to no. I voted yes because of the Hogger but after deeper insight I can see that it has problems.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: dar on November 30, 2017, 02:36:35 PM
NEXT!

also vote no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Abu on November 30, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
So is this going to be updated or not? The new rule was passed by a landslide.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Kowhai on November 30, 2017, 07:57:41 PM
Myths will not be an official TWG.

The policies proposed in this topic (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35977.0) are now in place.

New bid:
Remnants of Skystone:

Long ago the mysterious Skystone loomed over the land of Etherea, where it became central in the development of three surrounding societies. That was until the Skystone shattered, spreading noxious Haze across the land and leaving foul Mimic creatures in its wake. The survivors took refuge in a floating city in the sky while the land below was consumed, and remained there for 200 years. Today, the three factions have united to return to the Ground, exterminate the Mimics, and reclaim the land.

Aeronaut - human
Aeronaut
Crag - human
Crag
Ferric - survives being lynched once
Aeromimic - appears green, but is a mimic

Captain Meelie - each night finds someone's color
Skylark - protects someone every night
Chief Juniper - once per game can revive someone
Firethorn - one night per game can choose to kill everyone who visits him (mimics will be killed in order listed, with disguised last)
Rook Reynolds - checks a player each night, learns who visited them

Mimics: (wolves)

Flybeast - just an ordinary mimic
Great Ferron - each night finds someone's color
Riverfang - chooses someone to kill when lynched
Bandero - thinks they are a Crag

Haze Victim - has amnesia because of the haze, can remember as a dead role
Cody - wins alongside others if Riverfang is dead at the end and there is at least one other Crag alive (including Bandero)
Electroneer - kills a player every night, dies if they kill a blue role, beats all if they make it to the end


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on November 30, 2017, 08:00:19 PM
Electroneer seems very hard to win as
The multiple types of humans makes it harder for wolves to human claim
Beyond those flaws, it's just a kinda boring TWG, and I think we've agreed that passable is not enough as of right now
Voting no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on November 30, 2017, 08:05:13 PM
being an evil role is almost impossible here
no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 30, 2017, 08:05:37 PM
voting no because themed games are too boring and confusing


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on November 30, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
With 5 blue roles in the game I expect the Electroneer to be difficult.
I understand that this is a theme game but you should tone the theme down to some extent, perhaps keeping some of the original role names, and not having two different types of human names.

Good bid otherwise. Fix this and I would likely vote yes.

As it is, no.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on November 30, 2017, 08:06:16 PM
Electroneer is basically unlimited cop.
vote no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: TotesAngel on November 30, 2017, 08:28:19 PM
I HATE THESE KINDS OF THEMED BIDS

BLEEP NO


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on November 30, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
I HATE THESE KINDS OF THEMED BIDS

BLEEP NO
I don't think that voting no solely on the bid being a theme is a good idea. If half the rolelist is renamed then it isnot the end of the world.

If the theme gets a bit too complicated, like it has in this bid, it is understandable though.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Bandero on November 30, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
Remnants of Skystone:

Long ago the mysterious Skystone loomed over the land of Etherea, where it became central in the development of three surrounding societies. That was until the Skystone shattered, spreading noxious Haze across the land and leaving foul Mimic creatures in its wake. The survivors took refuge in a floating city in the sky while the land below was consumed, and remained there for 200 years. Today, the three factions have united to return to the Ground, exterminate the Mimics, and reclaim the land.

Human - human
Human
Human - human
Human
Ferric - survives being lynched once (Knot Expert)
Aeromimic - appears green, but is a mimic (Disguised Wolf)

Captain Meelie - each night finds someone's color (Seer)
Skylark - protects someone every night (Guardian)
Chief Juniper - once per game can revive someone (Necromancer)
Psycho - one night per game can choose to kill everyone who visits him (mimics will be killed in order listed, with disguised last)
Rook Reynolds - checks a player each night, learns who visited them (Warden)

Mimics: (wolves)

Flybeast - just an ordinary mimic (Wolf)
Great Ferron - each night finds someone's color (Wolf Shaman)
Riverfang - chooses someone to kill when lynched (Brutal Wolf)
Mason - thinks they are a human

Amnesiac - has amnesia because of the haze, can remember as a dead role
Cody - wins alongside others if Riverfang is dead at the end and there is at least one blue role alive
Electroneer - kills a player every night, dies if they kill a wolf role, beats all if they make it to the end
[/spoiler]

This is my bid. I changed the way the electroneer works to make it die if it kills a wolf. That would count as one of three role function changes. I also changed Cody's win condition, so two. Then I renamed some roles back to their normal names. I am allowed to rename roles without changing how they work, right Qaz?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on November 30, 2017, 08:44:33 PM
could you at least put the usual name in brackets or something
i.e Ferric (Knot Expert)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on November 30, 2017, 08:48:09 PM
done


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on November 30, 2017, 08:53:42 PM
You are allowed to make changes which are purely cosmetic, though I will count changing both names of humans into one name as a change. That would mean 3 minor changes, so you'll need to revert one, or rebid it.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: ZechAkari on November 30, 2017, 09:17:37 PM
i wish i had opinions


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Raven on December 01, 2017, 02:46:40 AM
You are allowed to make changes which are purely cosmetic, though I will count changing both names of humans into one name as a change. That would mean 3 minor changes, so you'll need to revert one, or rebid it.

wait how was I allowed to make all those major role changes including changing win conditions and introducing an entirely new role?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
Because the new rules were not yet in place


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Raven on December 01, 2017, 02:49:31 AM
Because the new rules were not yet in place

There are new rules?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 02:50:23 AM
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35977.0


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Myths)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 05:45:28 AM
Remnants of Skystone:

Long ago the mysterious Skystone loomed over the land of Etherea, where it became central in the development of three surrounding societies. That was until the Skystone shattered, spreading noxious Haze across the land and leaving foul Mimic creatures in its wake. The survivors took refuge in a floating city in the sky while the land below was consumed, and remained there for 200 years. Today, the three factions have united to return to the Ground, exterminate the Mimics, and reclaim the land.

Human - human
Human
Human - human
Human
Ferric - survives being lynched once (Knot Expert)
Aeromimic - appears green, but is a mimic (Disguised Wolf)

Captain Meelie - each night finds someone's color (Seer)
Skylark - protects someone every night (Guardian)
Chief Juniper - once per game can revive someone (Necromancer)
Psycho - one night per game can choose to kill everyone who visits him (mimics will be killed in order listed, with disguised last)
Rook Reynolds - checks a player each night, learns who visited them (Warden)

Mimics: (wolves)

Flybeast - just an ordinary mimic (Wolf)
Great Ferron - each night finds someone's color (Wolf Shaman)
Riverfang - chooses someone to kill when lynched (Brutal Wolf)
Mason - thinks they are a human

Amnesiac - has amnesia because of the haze, can remember as a dead role
Cody - wins alongside others if Riverfang is dead at the end and there is at least one human role alive
Electroneer - kills a player every night, dies if they kill a wolf role, beats all if they make it to the end

I reverted Cody's win condition back. It was dependent on their being a Crag left, which no longer exists, so I put it as human.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 05:52:15 AM
If we are allowed to vote yes on it, I now vote yes as the many issues have been fixed.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 05:57:19 AM
I did what Qazikol said, so I think I should be fine.

I don't think I'm allowed to vote, but if so yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Raven on December 01, 2017, 06:00:50 AM
But wait, is Cody just a human with tougher win conditions and being independant (black)?

I think its too difficult to actually win when youre Cody and cant the role simply reveal and sit there doing nothing as they win with along with any faction?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:01:46 AM
I did what Qazikol said, so I think I should be fine.

I don't think I'm allowed to vote, but if so yes.
You are allowed to vote for your own bid, yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:16:33 AM
I thought that at first, but now I think green meant Brutal Wolf must be dead, and must reach to the end (because almost every possible ends have human roles) and it doesn't matter who wins, right?
Basically, an independent unbiased who has the interesting goal of specifically trying to bring down the Brutal Wolf while keeping Humans alive.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 01, 2017, 07:55:58 AM
I like these changes!
Voting yes
Gonna do this now
Make my voice heard

Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly with Archi  :D voting yes!


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 01, 2017, 07:57:13 AM
vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Ataino on December 01, 2017, 08:01:12 AM
Ye


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 01, 2017, 01:36:22 PM
it's just a kinda boring TWG, and I think we've agreed that passable is not enough as of right now
Voting no
Keeping my vote on No for these reasons ^
The queue is WAY too flooded, and I just think this will be better if we go through some of the games and bid this later when there are not as many bids on the queue as there are right now.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 02:57:44 PM
Keeping my vote on No for these reasons ^
The queue is WAY too flooded, and I just think this will be better if we go through some of the games and bid this later when there are not as many bids on the queue as there are right now.
That's just unfair to the bidder though. This game introduces some new roles.

What are we looking for in the non-boring department then? Team games only?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 01, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Leia on December 01, 2017, 04:12:01 PM
Aw I liked the old Electroneer, it seemed interesting

Not a fan of the new Cody, too difficult to win as. Voting No for that reason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 05:54:50 PM
I switched Cody back to the old version... although I changed it from Crags to Humans because those don't exist anymore

And I received too much negative feedback about the Electroneer


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 06:07:59 PM
still voting no for Qazikol's reasons


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:35:31 PM
Then, once more, what is your criteria for a game that is not boring?

May as well not bid until the queue is freed up then.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 01, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
probs not gonna happen
people are gonna keep throwing in bids


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 06:46:54 PM
Maybe we just need to play games faster... and stick to 24 hour update cycles

I get that some people are too busy with school to update, but maybe there should be a requirement for hosting that you won't be too busy to update


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:48:40 PM
Maybe we just need to play games faster... and stick to 24 hour update cycles

I get that some people are too busy with school to update, but maybe there should be a requirement for hosting that you won't be too busy to update
I would not mind two TWG games going on at once right now. We can finally make use of the PM labels feature on the forum or just have a rule to title our bids. It is not as complicated as some people make it seem.

Aren't a majority of the bids after Theory of Everything extremely simple anyways? I am pretty sure that we can handle one game starting as another one reaches, say, Day 4.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 06:49:36 PM
Or at least starting sign-ups earlier, so that as soon as one game finishes, the next game is full and can immediately start.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
I want to do that, but other people are like 'be patient, a break won't kill TWG'
like remember when we had week break because Archi was banned and no one wanted to skip over his game? That was dumb


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 06:52:25 PM
If the rate that bids are approved is faster than the rate games are finished, then the queue will get longer too fast to catch up.

I know I'm annoyed by the 3 day time period for Qaz to update, but maybe it should be longer.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:54:11 PM
I say keep the 3 day limit for now. If it gets bad enough just close off bidding. It won't be the end of the world.

I want to do that, but other people are like 'be patient, a break won't kill TWG'
like remember when we had week break because Archi was banned and no one wanted to skip over his game? That was dumb
I say we do what you say, because they are wrong. A break leads to situations like these.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 06:55:18 PM
So if the problem is that the queue fills up to fast and games are too slow, let's first focus on speeding up games.
Basically, stick to 24 hours if at all possible, and make it so that there's nothing wrong with two games going on at a time. I think starting sign ups Night 3 is reasonable, so that there is no waiting period.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:56:48 PM
So if the problem is that the queue fills up to fast and games are too slow, let's first focus on speeding up games.
Basically, stick to 24 hours if at all possible, and make it so that there's nothing wrong with two games going on at a time. I think starting sign ups Night 3 is reasonable, so that there is no waiting period.
Though if all night roles send in, then less than 24 hours is okay, right? Only if absolutely all of them have, or stated that they won't do anything, of course.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
well 24 hours maximum


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 01, 2017, 07:26:33 PM
Don't rush games. Do maybe 2 at a time, start another when one of them ends. Most importantly, don't rush games. Night phases should never be shortened.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 01, 2017, 07:34:25 PM
Eh, I switch my vote mto no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
Eh, I switch my vote mto no
You have to explain it.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 07:35:27 PM
Eh, I switch my vote mto no
Why? You have to explain it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 01, 2017, 07:36:35 PM
I don't like the Cody role and I kinda liked the old electroneer role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 07:44:25 PM
Reminder that people who voted yes must address any still-valid reasons for voting no. Yes votes that did not do this will not be counted.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 07:49:41 PM
Reminder that people who voted yes must address any still-valid reasons for voting no. Yes votes that did not do this will not be counted.
How am I supposed to address "This game is boring and I don’t like this role", especially when no reasons for disliking the roles have been given apart from difficulty to win as (which I did address last page), and liking the old one better?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 07:50:57 PM
I mean, you kinda just did, so...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 07:54:24 PM
Liking the old one better is irrelevant, because I reverted Cody back to the old one

And Electroneer had too much negative feedback, so I changed it

Voting something no because it's boring shouldn't even count, that's subjective


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 07:56:29 PM
Being boring does count, because if someone thinks something is boring, they don't think it'll be a good game. If you don't find it boring, you can say so when voting yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 01, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
Liking the old one better is irrelevant, because I reverted Cody back to the old one

And Electroneer had too much negative feedback, so I changed it

Voting something no because it's boring shouldn't even count, that's subjective

I understand people thought negative toward Electroneer..but opinions are opinions and my opinion isn't the same as others.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 08:16:01 PM
Then how did Classic Part 2 Part 2 make it in?!
Or A Normal Day Outside.

In fact, A Normal Day Outside started this trend of boring games getting in.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 08:17:58 PM
Okay, trend does not mean all.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
Mainly because at the time, the queue wasn't particularly clogged up.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Mainly because at the time, the queue wasn't particularly clogged up.
Why would we let boring games in anyways though?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 01, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
Because they were functional


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 01, 2017, 08:31:09 PM
Counting all the votes, it's tied 6 and 6


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 02:47:21 AM
BTW: It is 7 No's and 1 Yes right now....


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 03:38:44 AM
Well
yall will see what happens


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Raven on December 02, 2017, 08:33:24 AM
Voting yes cuz I dont see any isses and I wanna try out the new roles

Oh and can we actually consider a role bidding topic?
I wanna bid Lycaon without making a new TWG bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 02, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
Yes vote


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Atomic on December 02, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
I vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 02, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
Since it's hard to keep track of validity of votes just in my head, I'll be posting a tally of votes like this every time someone votes on the poll from now on. Since a lot of people with invalid votes aren't actually fully aware of this, they will all be given extra time to provide clarification.

Also, simply saying that you dislike something isn't enough of a reason to vote no, without providing reason for why you dislike it. Otherwise, you could just say "voting no because I dislike this bid", which kinda undermines the entire point of providing reason when voting.

Italics are votes with insufficient reasoning, strikethrough indicates reasons which are no longer valid after changes to the bid, underline indicates reasons which make no sense or lack suitable explanation

Qazikol - No (Electroneer hard to win as, multiple human types, boring)
Archi - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Nickito - No (generally hard to win as evil role [electroneer, multiple human types], boring)
KrispyKremeExtreme - No (boring, theme game being hard to understand)
Lusamine - Yes (boring: not actually boring, introduces new roles, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Chasi Cheesemaster Weran - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
AuroraLights - No (disliking theme games "like this")
greenviceroy - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Faithesque - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Temmie - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
ZechAkari - No (disliking Cody, Electroneer)
Lu - No (Cody difficult to win as)
blankin - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
singersky89 - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)

Valid vote count: Yes - 0, No - 4
Total vote count: Yes - 8, No - 6


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 02, 2017, 04:25:07 PM
It's fun to play as and Cody isn't difficult, trust me.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
How is someone supposed to counter saying something is boring? By saying it's not boring?

And the unaddressing Cody being hard shouldn't apply because I made it easier


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 02, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
Qazikol - No (Electroneer hard to win as, multiple human types, boring)
Archi - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Nickito - No (generally hard to win as evil role [electroneer, multiple human types], boring)
KrispyKremeExtreme - No (boring, theme game being hard to understand)
Lusamine - Yes (boring: not actually boring, introduces new roles, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Chasi Cheesemaster Weran - Yes (boring: not actually boring, Cody being difficult: not actually difficult)
AuroraLights - No (disliking theme games "like this")
greenviceroy - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Faithesque - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
Temmie - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
ZechAkari - No (disliking Cody, Electroneer)
Lu - No (Cody difficult to win as)
blankin - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)
singersky89 - Yes (boring: unaddressed, Cody being difficult: unaddressed)

Valid vote count: Yes - 1, No - 4
Total vote count: Yes - 8, No - 6

How is someone supposed to counter saying something is boring? By saying it's not boring?

And the unaddressing Cody being hard shouldn't apply because I made it easier
1. Yes, exactly, that's what Lusamine did to counter it, and Chasi just now
2. It does count, as it was a reason provided after changes were made


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 02, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
LUSY, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS CODY BEING DIFFICULT OR NOT!!


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
The difficulty for the Cody has been addressed because it has now been changed by greenviceroy. It shouldn't be difficult to win as anymore.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
All invalid votes because of not addressing Cody's difficulty shouldn't apply, because that has been fixed and no longer needs to be addressed


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 04:31:01 PM
All invalid votes because of not addressing Cody's difficulty shouldn't apply, because that has been fixed and no longer needs to be addressed
Agreed. Now the only valid argument left is "it's boring", which makes absolutely no sense to me but whatever.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 02, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
Well, clearly Lu thinks otherwise, as that claim was made in a post written well after changes were made, in which Lu also mentioned another change regarding the Electroneer which was made at the same time, so she clearly didn't miss the changes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 02, 2017, 04:32:29 PM
You have to address it
It's simple as saying "doesn't seem particularly difficult", shouldn't need to be complaining about typing that little


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 04:32:42 PM
Also voting No because themed games cause a lot of confusing when you are using the name of the character vs. the name of the actual role. It's annoying to go back and check each time. Just not a fan of renamed roles. I also don't like the idea of a role that dies the instant they try to kill someone of a particular faction. It seems too luck based for my liking.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
Okay, I address Lu's claim to the difficulty of Cody because I simply do not see how it is difficult especially as it has been made to be simpler now (or attempted to, at least). She could explain her opinion so I may get some more insight on this.

Also voting No because themed games cause a lot of confusing when you are using the name of the character vs. the name of the actual role. It's annoying to go back and check each time. Just not a fan of renamed roles. I also don't like the idea of a role that dies the instant they try to kill someone of a particular faction. It seems too luck based for my liking.
Voting no just because of the theme should not be allowed, in my own opinion. Please don't take offense. If you really hate themed games then just don't play. Some bids are much more interesting with the theme.

As long as not EVERY SINGLE role is renamed, it is not very difficult to remember who's-who.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
greenviceroy could do this, for example.
---
Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason
Knot Expert

Seer
Skylark (Guardian)
Necromancer
Psycho
Warden

Mimic (Wolf)
Aeromimic (Disguised Wolf)
Ferronmimic (Wolf Shaman)
Fangmimic (Brutal Wolf)

Amnesiac
Cody
Electroneer
---
This is not very difficult to remember, while still being a themed game.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
Many people who voted no haven't even seen the changes I made.

Also, some people haven't read the proposal you made about requiring yes explanations. As far as I'm aware, you haven't posted anything on this topic saying it.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Atomic on December 02, 2017, 06:11:34 PM
I'll make my vote valid then.
It won't actually be boring,from what I see, the TWG will be fun
Looking at Cody's role, it actually does not have a high difficulty, I would say it is of moderate difficulty so it should be fine.
Therefore I vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 06:59:53 PM
I don't think "boring" is a fair reason to vote a bid no.

Classic Part 2 got in and that was literally the most boring game ever.

Also, I voting a bid because it is themed isn't a good reason either. People can always refer to a role by its original name if they so please.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
Also, A Normal Day Outside got in and that's even more boring.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
People are complaining about a bid with new roles and calling it boring, but were fine with A Normal Day Outside...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
People are complaining about a bid with new roles and calling it boring, but were fine with A Normal Day Outside...
Their reasoning is "But it wasn't a problem back then"

As far as I'm concerned, I can just vote "no, this is boring" on literally anything now, even gimmick games because "this gimmick is boring"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 07:38:57 PM
I'm honestly not sure why A Normal Day Outside got through
I kind of want to take it off the queue

and I suppose I'll vote yes. I never actually reconsidered after I voted no, the changes make it less dull.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 02, 2017, 07:40:05 PM
I'm honestly not sure why A Normal Day Outside got through
I kind of want to take it off the queue

and I suppose I'll vote yes. I never actually reconsidered after I voted no, the changes make it less dull.

Make sure you address the problems


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 07:48:41 PM
omg
can we actually take out
a normal day outside e


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 02, 2017, 07:49:05 PM
omg
can we actually take out
a normal day outside e


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
Make sure you address the problems
What is even the point though? I already addressed all of the complaints, and I did a darn good job of it if I do say so myself.

If no voters can say "No for *person*'s reasons", then yes voters should be able to say "yes, Lusamine addressed all of the no votes".


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
If we take out A Normal Day Outside
I will gladly vote Yes on the bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
Also if we're worried about Temmie's feelings on it, we could always force him to make the rolelist more interesting.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 07:57:21 PM
I propose that A Normal Day Outside becomes something more like this.

Human
Human
Human
Mason
Gentleman
Insomniac

Seer
Coroner
Guardian
*insert Angakkuq/Angakuk/Conjurer/Inuit rename*
Psychic

Wolf
Disguised Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Brutal Wolf

Amnesiac
Maniac
Clairvoyant


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 09:36:40 PM
or we could just admit that it was a mistake


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Cosmic on December 03, 2017, 04:19:38 AM
we have 10 games lined up after this one, we should probably stop the bidding for a bit.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 04:22:00 AM
or we could just admit that it was a mistake
Well too bad because now it’s unfair. You guys voted yes on it.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 06:29:44 AM
Stranger instead of Amnesiac
Eidetic instead of brutal
Anything but gentleman
What's wrong with Gentleman? It's a lovely little role that can affect the outcomes if you are a skilled player with that role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 03, 2017, 06:31:35 AM
I wanna bid in a role where it tries to die in the night.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 06:38:36 AM
By the way, Widow contributed to the bidding guide by adding the "Keep it simple" thing. He should be put under credits.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Leia on December 03, 2017, 07:30:16 AM
I still dislike Cody. He's too difficult to win as because he has no way of finding Riverfang or knowing who Riverfang is. He also needs to keep one human alive? He has no way of doing either of these things. Honestly, his best bet is to just align with the humans and lynch all the wolves, because I highly doubt that the wolves will want to kill one of their own just so that he'll aly with them. All he is is a Neutral Unbiased human.

So, uh, No. I'm still voting No.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 07:44:44 AM
I still dislike Cody. He's too difficult to win as because he has no way of finding Riverfang or knowing who Riverfang is. He also needs to keep one human alive? He has no way of doing either of these things. Honestly, his best bet is to just align with the humans and lynch all the wolves, because I highly doubt that the wolves will want to kill one of their own just so that he'll aly with them. All he is is a Neutral Unbiased human.

So, uh, No. I'm still voting No.
This is true. While I vote Yes, I would probably remove this whole Riverfang requirement from Cody.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Leia on December 03, 2017, 08:17:25 AM
But then he would just be Refugee who needs a human to be alive at the end


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 03, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
By the way, Widow contributed to the bidding guide by adding the "Keep it simple" thing. He should be put under credits.
Thanks, I recently had memories of I contributing that thing. xD


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 08:21:38 AM
But then he would just be Refugee who needs a human to be alive at the end
Make something new up...?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: sansaery on December 03, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
I wanna bid in a role where it tries to die in the night.

Masochist


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 03, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
...or a Heretic xD


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: dar on December 03, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
...or a Heretic xD
i was just inspired to make a bid full of heretics, two wolfs and three cops with unlimited bullets.. HERETIC-


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 04, 2017, 05:02:50 AM
I can't change it anymore


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 04, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Also, it has been days since this bid has been placed... is it the time to go next?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
Also, it has been days since this bid has been placed... is it the time to go next?
The bidding queue is also starting to get stacked a little bit...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 01:40:04 PM
It hasn't been updated because Qazikol doesn't want anyone to lose brain cells from reading Dostoevsky's Exile.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 01:40:33 PM
you can take it off the queue if it's really that bad


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
you can take it off the queue if it's really that bad
But I want to host it. I already made a brand-new version that doesn't suck.

Or have the Thick Wolf.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Qazikol, you need to update the links for some recent TWGs.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 04, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
I found a loophole in the system...

You can promise to change a role to something else after the bid passes without it counting as a change to the original bid

If this is allowed, I will replace Cody with another role if the bid passes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Cosmic on December 04, 2017, 02:42:37 PM
for some reason i just made a bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
for some reason i just made a bid

so now the queue had 5 bids waiting, and keeping voting on this one will clog the bidding queue now.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 02:47:59 PM
If we pass games faster than we play them, the passed queue will fill up

If we bid games faster than we pass them, the bidded games queue will fill up

This could escalate into something really bad


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:18:17 PM
Yeah...
this has never been a problem until like the past month or so...

We used to be at the point where we weren't getting enough bids and the bids that we were getting were all failing...

so now the queue had 5 bids waiting, and keeping voting on this one will clog the bidding queue now.
WOAH new name


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 05:29:12 PM
I got a new name

Although it's what people always call me


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:32:56 PM
Can we at least clear the bidding queue? Please put Dostoevsky's Exile on so that I can bid a better version as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 05, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
You can make changes to the bid beforehand
Do you wish to do that now, or should I update


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
You can make changes to the bid beforehand
Do you wish to do that now, or should I update
Nickito lied to me. Ffs Nickito.

Yes, I will make changes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 08:05:37 PM
I misunderstood you
I thought you were asking if you could remove the bid, replace it with something brand new, and keep it in the same spot in the queue (which is obviously not allowed)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Remnants of Skystone)
Post by: Kowhai on December 06, 2017, 04:07:31 PM
Remnants of Skystone will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Dostoevsky's Exile
Famous Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky has been brought to Volchi Gulag, an infamous prison camp usually reserved for only the worst dissenters to the Russian Empire. Wolves and neutral inmates strike terror into the humans imprisoned here, while at night prisoners rot away, starved and scared. This is not a place for Fyodor Dostoevsky; he will get out of here.

Dostoevsky will not let his views be silenced, and he has the perfect way to let the Russian populace know about what goes on in these gulags, thousands of kilometres away from where they live. Planning a rebellion, he hopes to pit inmate against inmate. The results will give him good material.

As the events of the game start turning out, Dostoevsky hides in the shadows and grabs his own mightiest weapon - the pen. He will not be affecting the outcome of the game, but he is going to make a damn good story regardless of the results, and the Russians will like it.

Welcome to Volchi Gulag, a prison in the middle of an inhospitable wilderness. There is no escape from here. Try your best not to leave a mess, 'kay?

Human
Human
Human

Mason
Gentleman
Watchdog


Seer
Guardian

Warden
Angakkuq
Snezhinka
- A beautiful and angelic songstress who, once in the game, can summon a flurry of snowflakes to reveal the role of someone they choose. But it comes at a gamble - the role will be revealed to all in the game topic.

Wolf
Snow Wolf - This wolf's fur is extra thick, allowing it to escape the effects of all that is targetted upon it. To any investigative roles, the Snow Wolf will appear to be a Human who cannot visit anyone and is green.
Confrere Wolf
Arctic Wolf


Arsonist
Supplier
Maniac



Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 06, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
Yes, I like the new roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Yes because it’s my bid and I want to see it played.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: dar on December 06, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
Yes, I like the new roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 06, 2017, 04:37:04 PM
I mean
this is somewhat interesting because of the selection of roles but
i feel like the Snow Wolf should be able to only do their ability for 2 nights of choice or so
rather than be like that the entire game

we might as well just call it “OP Disguised Wolf”


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 04:42:54 PM
I mean
this is somewhat interesting because of the selection of roles but
i feel like the Snow Wolf should be able to only do their ability for 2 nights of choice or so
rather than be like that the entire game

we might as well just call it “OP Disguised Wolf”
Actually it’s basically the same thing, just Stalker and Snezhinka-proof. The town blue roles are pretty strong so this is why.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 06, 2017, 04:57:40 PM
Actually it’s basically the same thing, just Stalker and Snezhinka-proof. The town blue roles are pretty strong so this is why.
Okay fair enough, might as well vote Yes to avoid any conflicts


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 06, 2017, 07:11:48 PM
sure why not
I don't really love the Cold Blood roles but that's just personal preference and apparently I can't vote no based off of that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 06, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Yes, I like the new roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
sure why not
I don't really love the Cold Blood roles but that's just personal preference and apparently I can't vote no based off of that
You do have to set a limit to it, but it's possible that your personal preference can be a reason for voting 'no'.

"I hate Gentleman! Voting no" is not a reasoning, for example. It's just blatant bias. Especially because they're unlikely to change to yes even with any sort of attempted convincing.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 06, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
so I can't say 'No I hate Arctic Wolf'


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:18:40 PM
so I can't say 'No I hate Arctic Wolf'
Unless you think that Arctic Wolf makes the game noticeably worse that it's bad, I'd say no. I'm not in charge of it though. I'm just saying that "no, I hate this role" is extremely subjective. Unlike with boredom where you at least have some sort of identifier (you can't say "no, boring" to a team game where everyone gets to do something for example) I could just say "No, because I hate *random role*" to literally every single bid and not have to provide any form of backup to my point.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 06, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
I don't think it's a huge problem
I mean at least Thicc Wolf was replaced


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:21:25 PM
I don't think it's a huge problem
I mean at least Thicc Wolf was replaced
It was only "Thick Wolf" and it's still there, just renamed.

I might change it back because Snow Wolf make no sense as a name and Arctic Wolf is already fulfilling the snow-based wolf name.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 06, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
please don't
just call it Fluffy Wolf or something


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:24:27 PM
But let's be real, we can't just ban usage of the word "thick" now because some people use it as a meme. Thicc and thick are different. Let's leave it at that?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 06, 2017, 07:25:48 PM
I think Fluffy Wolf sounds cooler than Thick Wolf
and it's more accurate anyway


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
But thick fur=Thick Wolf.

Fluffy Wolf sounds like a wolf that would be able to survive the first attack on them or something.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:33:16 PM
Not voting
I think Angakkuq is the worst role ever created because I am against revival, especially if it's temporary


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 06, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Thick Wolf =/= Thick Fur Wolf

Maybe the wolf has really thick skin

Or is really fat


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 06, 2017, 08:12:25 PM
Can we please keep it at Snow Wolf before I cringe myself to death


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: dar on December 06, 2017, 08:12:47 PM
THICCCCC
hi


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kirby on December 06, 2017, 11:33:47 PM
Yes because it's a good way to re use those roles and i like snow wolf
However i would suggest a poll for snow wolf ability duration


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 07, 2017, 04:04:31 AM
Yes because it's a good way to re use those roles and i like snow wolf
However i would suggest a poll for snow wolf ability duration
Okay, I will keep that in mind.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Ataino on December 07, 2017, 05:15:00 AM
Well, for games with possible revival, like necrosis or something, there should 'ever be any talk (or telling the truth) between the dead, until all revivals are done
Yes btw


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Raven on December 07, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
To prevent miller gaming of the revived, cant we make it that the revived player may not make the use of PMs unless to talk to the Anga-whateverthebleepitscalled?

Also, PLS MAKE IT FLUFFY WOLF. IT SOUNDS BETTER

Voting yes cuz I like the songstress person


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 07, 2017, 06:06:47 AM
We can just hold a name poll after my game. It’s not like I really care.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 08, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Sent’s account was gone again

Green, be ready fo host ?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 09:38:08 AM
NO WE MUST GO AHEAD WITH MAKE TWG GREAT AGAIN PLS

AND FARAWAY CITY THEY WERE AMAZING BIDS


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Raven on December 08, 2017, 09:55:36 AM
NO WE MUST GO AHEAD WITH MAKE TWG GREAT AGAIN PLS

AND FARAWAY CITY THEY WERE AMAZING BIDS

Archi can let others host so lets wait for him to assign his bids to others


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 08, 2017, 09:58:24 AM
By the time Faraway city is here, maybe I'll have enough experience to..
host

probably not but we'll see


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 08, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
NO WE MUST GO AHEAD WITH MAKE TWG GREAT AGAIN PLS

AND FARAWAY CITY THEY WERE AMAZING BIDS
But his account
unless someone wants to take over and host..


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Atomic on December 08, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
But his account
unless someone wants to take over and host..
I'd happily do so and host  one of the games, if I'm allowed to, but I'll need Archi's permission.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 11:24:31 AM
I'll ask him on Discord wht he wants to do with them


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Blue on December 08, 2017, 02:08:53 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Nickito on December 08, 2017, 02:42:48 PM
we should let me take Make TWG Great Again
I'm due for my 14th game


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Atomic on December 08, 2017, 02:45:43 PM
I'd happily do Faraway City then, if Nickito wants to do Make TWG Great Again.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Cosmic on December 08, 2017, 02:52:54 PM
I haven’t hosted since June, so I’ll put myself forward for either game.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
Guys, wait for Archi to reply tho.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 08, 2017, 03:27:17 PM
I might ask Archi for faraway city because maybe I'll have enough experience then..but maybe with a co-host.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Ataino on December 08, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
it's night for him guys chill xd


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Cosmic on December 08, 2017, 06:01:25 PM
Guys, wait for Archi to reply tho.
Of course


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Archi got banned for being too young, I think


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Cosmic on December 08, 2017, 06:34:37 PM
Yeah, we are waiting for a reply on Discord


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 06:37:44 PM
His account was deleted because he is underage and his parents revoked their original permission. He was not banned.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 07:18:30 PM
His account was deleted because he is underage and his parents revoked their original permission. He was not banned.
That's what I meant, couldn't find the right word


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
As for the current bid on the poll it seems to be a unanimous yes vote and a lot of people have voted. Should we move on? (18 votes won’t work anymore now that you need to post)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kirby on December 09, 2017, 04:26:02 AM
Whos hosting make twg great again?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 05:09:58 AM
Would have been Sent.

Anyways he replied. He said that we are doing a poll


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 09, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
Was 18 votes ever a feasible option?

It always ended up being 3 days.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Atomic on December 09, 2017, 11:32:37 AM
The poll is updated once 18 people have voted or once 3 days have passed, whichever comes first.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 12:16:52 PM
Back when we had the poll, every once in a while a bid would get 18+ votes but it was rare.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Oh, it's actually more if there's 10 yes votes or 9 no votes then it ends, because those would always count as a pass or fail, respectively, should there be 18 votes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Bandero on December 09, 2017, 03:01:49 PM
That rarely happened when there was a poll, let alone when people have to post an explanation


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
It happened quite often, actually.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 03:11:36 PM
Oh, this has 9 yes voted so far


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: dar on December 09, 2017, 03:12:09 PM
vote yes if haven't already


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Ataino on December 09, 2017, 03:14:32 PM
vote yes if haven't already


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 03:16:05 PM
Think we can update. Only one day left, différence won’t be large enough anyways


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 03:25:44 PM
I vote yes. Updating now.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
Dostoevsky's Exile, bid by Lusamine, will be the 107th official TWG. Congratulations!

New bid:
This bid is based off of Danganronpa. The role list is hidden. The 18 roles are all based off of Danganronpa characters. The list of characters in the game is below.
Makoto Naegi - Ultimate Lucky Student
Kyouko Kirigiri - Ultimate Detective
Aoi Asahina - Ultimate Swimmer
Kiyotaka Ishimaru - Ultimate Leader
Sayaka Maizono - Ultimate Musician
Mondo Owada - Ultimate Biker
Chihiro Fujisaki - Ultimate Programmer
Byakuya Togami - Ultimate Affluent Progeny
Celestia Ludenberg - Ultimate Gambler
Sakura Ogami - Ultimate Fighter
Hifumi Yamada - Ultimate Fan Fic Writer
Leon Kuwata - Ultimate Athlete
Touko bleepawa - Ultimate Author
Yasuhiro Hagakure - Ultimate Psychic
Junko Enoshima, Mukuro Ikusaba, Monokuma, Monomi
Each role has a different description. No prior knowledge of Danganronpa is required to enjoy this game.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Dostoevsky's Exile)
Post by: dar on December 09, 2017, 03:27:48 PM
vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Leia on December 09, 2017, 03:29:32 PM
I think that if we're going to do closed games, we need one or two people to not play it and review it instead to make sure that it's balanced


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 03:35:40 PM
Yeah
That would be Qazikol and KKE, they should both have the role list


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: dar on December 09, 2017, 03:42:23 PM
Yeah
That would be Qazikol and KKE, they should both have the role list
if KKE didn't bid this, anyway.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
KKE can't even bid right now


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 03:46:30 PM
No, closed games make no sense if roles are out in the open


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
>when you vote no for a reason that isn't true
The role list isn't posted lol only Qazikol and KKE should know what it is

And me ofc


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Atomic on December 09, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
No, closed games could be just like Classic Part 2 if roles are not looked at well enough.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Cosmic on December 09, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
opted against bidding a closed game, but I’m not sure about this. No opinion yet.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
Received a PM no vote, but as they apparently do not wish their reasons to be public, no rebuttal is necessary for yes voters.

Also, I don't believe I have the rolelist @Nick


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 04:33:01 PM
Okay I'll send it later


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 09, 2017, 04:49:28 PM
I don't know what Danganronpa is.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 04:53:08 PM
I will look over this. I honestly am not a big fan of the 'closed rolelist' idea, but we should try it out too.

Also, are we using normal TWG roles are new roles?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
That would ruin the fun

And if the character list is revealed, then claiming would be nigh-impossible for wolves


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 05:01:46 PM
...you mean like it always is?
I will look over this. I honestly am not a big fan of the 'closed rolelist' idea, but we should try it out too.

Also, are we using normal TWG roles are new roles?
All roles are unique
The Wolves are very powerful, while the Town isn't as powerful but they start with the numbers.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 05:03:58 PM
Ok fine revoking vote
But stop revealing game info


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 05:04:54 PM
Do you want me to just say "bidding a closed game"?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 05:05:43 PM
No my closed game which is in the works has like 15 things to say


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on December 09, 2017, 05:08:15 PM
Received a PM no vote, but as they apparently do not wish their reasons to be public, no rebuttal is necessary for yes voters.
This vote has been revoked.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 06:48:08 PM
Make TWG Great Again has been cancelled; Faraway City has moved up in the queue.

Anyways, I now vote no. I simply do not feel like a closed game is the most interesting format, and this is the worst possible way to try it out; in a gimmick game with gimmick roles that are all unique.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 09, 2017, 06:49:10 PM
See? That's kind of what I feel too.

We've had games like Quiet Town though...
but IDK...I just feel like this game is very interesting but I don't want it ending to be a complete trainwreck


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 06:55:26 PM
Anyways, I now vote no. I simply do not feel like a closed game is the most interesting format, and this is the worst possible way to try it out; in a gimmick game with gimmick roles that are all unique.
Challenge!
Worst possible closed game would be to have 17 humans and 1 wolf and just let everyone go at it

Change to yes, Nickito pointed out that this game actually complements forum meta very well


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 06:59:30 PM
Challenge!
Worst possible closed game would be to have 17 humans and 1 wolf and just let everyone go at it

Change to yes, Nickito pointed out that this game actually complements forum meta very well
This does not address my point at all


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 07:07:25 PM
You said that this was the worst possible format for a closed game, I pointed out that it was in fact not the worst possible format for a closed game.

tbh I actually don't think your reasoning is very good, you said it's a potentially bad format, but you didn't explain why.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
in a gimmick game with gimmick roles that are all unique


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 07:08:24 PM
and what is wrong with that?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
See? That's kind of what I feel too.

We've had games like Quiet Town though...
but IDK...I just feel like this game is very interesting but I don't want it ending to be a complete trainwreck
it won't be a complete trainwreck
I've hosted 13 times and I've hosted 0 trainwrecks, and this even isn't my most complicated game


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 09, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
it won't be a complete trainwreck
I've hosted 13 times and I've hosted 0 trainwrecks, and this even isn't my most complicated game
If we're being completely honest, Wolfington P. II and Classic P. II were pretty bad. Hilarious for the latter, but bad. And the former had a terrible host mistake.

Just keep Nickito away from any games that are continuations and we should be fine.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
 
and what is wrong with that?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 09, 2017, 07:26:20 PM
No. I don't like closed games, this isn't a mafia game. It completely changes the way the game is played because you have to consider every possible role there is for what people could be. Also, I don't like games with Japanese names that I can't pronounce, and I've never even heard of the Dangdenropa thingy.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 07:32:31 PM
The Werewolf Game is mafia that makes no sense


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 08:00:29 PM
No. I don't like closed games, this isn't a mafia game. It completely changes the way the game is played because you have to consider every possible role there is for what people could be. Also, I don't like games with Japanese names that I can't pronounce, and I've never even heard of the Dangdenropa thingy.
Danganronpa is just a theme, it's no different than your Remnants of Skystone one.
You'll need about the same knowledge of each to play the respective games.

I feel like no Humans is one way to solve the whole 'half the players claim Human' thing which is honestly repetitive and boring. It's at least worth trying imo


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 09, 2017, 08:15:56 PM
The Werewolf Game is mafia that makes no sense
By mafia I meant an online mafia game where no one knows the roles. Also, there are literally no lists of possilble roles that could be chosen. A closed game in TWG completely throws a wrench in anyone's strategies from previous games.

And Remnants of Skystone has roles that are pronounceable, and is also related to Flipline.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 09, 2017, 08:18:09 PM
How is that a problem? It forces people to think on their feet, which is a good thing


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
By mafia I meant an online mafia game where no one knows the roles. Also, there are literally no lists of possilble roles that could be chosen. A closed game in TWG completely throws a wrench in anyone's strategies from previous games.

And Remnants of Skystone has roles that are pronounceable, and is also related to Flipline.
okay I can change the role names to their talents I guess

also isn't a gimmick that introduces new strategies a good thing?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 09, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
It's more of a game overhaul than a gimmick

I suppose it could be fun, but combined with a confusing theme, it's just a bit too out there for me

Maybe if someone bid a closed game but with normal TWG roles.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 09, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
but I've already hosted that
think of this as Lyka's Time * Perfection


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 10, 2017, 01:46:23 AM
And to add, it can be difficult enough to host, even in my own experience (during Lyka's Time). Only a few hosts that are very skilled and dedicated enough is even allowed to host such games. This is why I don't recommend rewinding Lyka's Time though.

Voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 10, 2017, 09:01:46 AM
I have no opinion since I don't understand this format of TWG.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 10, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Would anyone be interested in reviewing a bid that I just BSed?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 10, 2017, 10:16:38 AM
I feel like no Humans is one way to solve the whole 'half the players claim Human' thing which is honestly repetitive and boring. It's at least worth trying imo
That's actually an excellent point right there. This concept will help eliminate all that fuss and hopefully make the game more interesting as a result.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 10, 2017, 10:17:04 AM
Would anyone be interested in reviewing a bid that I just BSed?

me


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 10:50:59 AM
Would anyone be interested in reviewing a bid that I just BSed?

Sure


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Raven on December 10, 2017, 11:12:22 AM
Honestly, I dont know what a closed rolelist is like so Im voting yes just so we can have some variety in the games played and it can be like a test game for closed rolelists.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 10, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
Honestly, I dont know what a closed rolelist is like so Im voting yes just so we can have some variety in the games played and it can be like a test game for closed rolelists.
That's a good idea. Especially since I'm new to TWG, I myself haven't seen a closed rolelist either. It's a good way to break up the regular routine and to test out the concept as well.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 11:38:04 AM
Except if we have a test game for a closed rolelist, we should not make it themed. That just makes it even more confusing. We should just test it out with a standard TWG rolelist.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 10, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
We already did that
It worked out great
How many tests do we need to do


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 10, 2017, 12:57:58 PM
We already did that
It worked out great
How many tests do we need to do
None, because we don't want closed rolelists.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 10, 2017, 01:05:59 PM
Some people are in favour, don't say no one wants a closed role list. That's wrong


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 10, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
"We" was a généralisation.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 10, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
People keep voting no without a real reason.
"The role list is there" no it isn't
"We haven't had a closed game before" yes we have
"Closed games are always bad" no they aren't


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 01:19:12 PM
I personally haven't played a closed game, but if we do one it shouldn't be combined with a theme, that would make things too confusing.

If the theme is made simpler I might vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Ataino on December 10, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
yes if i didn't already


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 10, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
I personally haven't played a closed game, but if we do one it shouldn't be combined with a theme, that would make things too confusing.

If the theme is made simpler I might vote yes
I think it would be more confusing without a theme, because otherwise there's 160 possibilities and it would get tiring to look through them all and would detract from real gameplay


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 04:18:20 PM
How does having a theme make there less possibilities?

The bidder should include a list of roles that are possibilities or aren't.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 10, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
Don't you think that the prospect of people being able to lie about their abilities is exciting?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 04:44:20 PM
It's just that there are so many possibilities that there would be no way to really tell if someone's role was actually true. Although I guess that could be fun.

I was playing on this online mafia website in a sandbox game, where the roles are random.

I was this independent role: https://epicmafia.com/role/8036, mistletoe, where they win (biased) if everyone alive is in love with someone and people fall in love if they have the same alignment.

I claimed this town role, Justice, https://epicmafia.com/role/15562, who checks two people each night to see if their alignments were the same.

Someone asked me if I was Mistletoe, and I said no. I eventually won the game by myself, and it was awesome!


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 10, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
How does having a theme make there less possibilities?

The bidder should include a list of roles that are possibilities or aren't.
I agree with this. I would vote Yes if this is done ^


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 10, 2017, 05:09:42 PM
I just think a game where anything is possible just..can't work out because..well, anything is possible. Like it will be so fun for evil roles but still.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Bandero on December 10, 2017, 05:26:06 PM
I just think a game where anything is possible just..can't work out because..well, anything is possible. Like it will be so fun for evil roles but still.

Having a game where anything is possible could make it horribly unbalanced


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 10, 2017, 05:36:12 PM
How would that even work though
I will give an example of a role so people know what kinds of things to look for


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 10, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
I agree with this. I would vote Yes if this is done ^
Might as well not even be a closed game

You're essentially saying "I want to see his new gimmick but only if the fun part is removed"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: sansaery on December 10, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
I agree with Vinny actually, closed games sound hella fun


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Cosmic on December 11, 2017, 02:57:20 AM
Yes, I was going to bid one myself, I’ve always like doing the idea of a closed game. Makes it more exciting and more satisfying when you win (not that I’ll get past n1


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kirby on December 11, 2017, 09:32:17 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Abu on December 11, 2017, 09:33:53 AM
Yes votes have to address the no votes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 11, 2017, 09:53:44 AM
The no votes are literally based on either false information (lol you accidentally revealed the role list this isn't closed anymore) or opinion (I don't like closed games)
There's no way to refute either of these


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Raven on December 11, 2017, 11:30:44 AM
People keep voting no without a real reason.
"The role list is there" no it isn't
"We haven't had a closed game before" yes we have
"Closed games are always bad" no they aren't

Mind you, if you're referring to me, I said that I, as an individual, haven't experienced a closed rolelist before and not that the forum hasnt had one.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Nickito on December 11, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
That's not referring to you


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Raven on December 11, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
That's not referring to you

oh nvm then heh  ^^;


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 15, 2017, 01:43:06 AM
its been 6 days


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 15, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
Can someone judge a bid I just made?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 15, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
i already told you


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Kowhai on December 15, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Killing School Life will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Secrets of the Boulevard
Human (+1)
Human (+2)
Human (+3)
Wrathful (-1)
Gentleman (+1)
Disguised Wolf (-2)

Seer (+2)
Guardian (-3)
Apprentice (+1)
Cop (-2)
Politician (+2)
Psychic (+3)

Wolf Shaman (-1)
Brutal Wolf (-2)
Confrere Wolf (+1)
Rascal Wolf (+2)
Proxy (-1)

Student (-1)
Maniac (-3)
Clockmaker


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 15, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
No, way too many roles
5 wolves
6 town
it's a bit crazy


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Killing School Life)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 15, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
No, way too many roles
5 wolves
6 town
it's a bit crazy


I agree


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Nickito on December 15, 2017, 09:14:28 PM
5 Wolves is pretty much always no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 15, 2017, 09:16:05 PM
This was generally too much wolves, voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 15, 2017, 09:19:16 PM
Voting no


Too many roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Bandero on December 15, 2017, 09:22:53 PM
Voting no.

Too many roles, Seer and Apprentice do not go well together, and 5 wolves is a big no.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 15, 2017, 09:28:21 PM
Voting no.

Too many roles, Seer and Apprentice do not go well together, and 5 wolves is a big no.

100%


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Atomic on December 16, 2017, 04:06:17 AM
If I remove the apprentice, the Rascal Wolf and Wrathful will become useless.
Therefore, If I remove the Rascal Wolf and change the Wrathful into a Bomb, and change the Apprentice into maybe a wolfsbane, would that work?
Also Proxy would have to become Mason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Abu on December 16, 2017, 04:19:27 AM
Contrary to what most people here seem to think, 5 wolves is not and should never be an automatic no. If the town line-up is good enough that it would definitely work.

It does not work here though. Both Gentleman and Politician are unnecessary. Replacing one for a Watchdog will go a long way into helping the town.

I vote No though.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Leia on December 16, 2017, 07:32:49 AM
No, because Seer + Apprentice is too powerful of a combination, and I doubt we'll fill up 20 sign-ups


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Abu on December 16, 2017, 08:20:49 AM
No, because Seer + Apprentice is too powerful of a combination
5 wolves. With a powerful town combination, Seer/Apprentice and 5 wolves equal out.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Cosmic on December 16, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
5 wolves. With a powerful town combination, Seer/Apprentice and 5 wolves equal out.
It’s not about being equal, it’s about it being an awful combo.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Abu on December 16, 2017, 10:01:57 AM
It’s not about being equal, it’s about it being an awful combo.
She said that it is too powerful for the town.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Cosmic on December 16, 2017, 10:21:04 AM
She said that it is too powerful for the town.
I was stating my opinion


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Bandero on December 16, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
It doesn't matter if  there are 5 wolves to balance it out. If there were 5 blues and 4 wolves, Seer + Apprentice still would be a terrible combination.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Atomic on December 16, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
If I remove the apprentice, the Rascal Wolf and Wrathful will become useless.
Therefore, If I remove the Rascal Wolf and change the Wrathful into a Bomb, and change the Apprentice into maybe a wolfsbane, would that work?
Also Proxy would have to become Mason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Abu on December 16, 2017, 01:55:58 PM
It doesn't matter if  there are 5 wolves to balance it out. If there were 5 blues and 4 wolves, Seer + Apprentice still would be a terrible combination.
I was addressing the "It is too powerful" point, not your opinions on the combination.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Leia on December 16, 2017, 02:39:06 PM
Ok, but that doesn't change the point that there are 20 roles. We're currently struggling to fill up an 18 role game, I highly doubt that we'll make it to 20.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: dar on December 18, 2017, 04:38:40 PM
No, because Seer + Apprentice is too powerful of a combination, and I doubt we'll fill up 20 sign-ups
it went well in a game
vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 20, 2017, 04:51:18 PM
Should the make TWG great again bc removed and replaced with Farway city in the OP for the successful bids + poll history


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Abu on December 20, 2017, 05:07:41 PM
Should the make TWG great again bc removed and replaced with Farway city in the OP for the successful bids + poll history
It's not on the upcoming games list.

For the list of bids list, it should be bolded and italics or something to symbolise that it was cancelled and will not happen. I cannot go back a page on my phone).


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 21, 2017, 05:08:33 PM
Update?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Secrets of the Boulevard)
Post by: Kowhai on December 21, 2017, 09:13:14 PM
Secrets of the Boulevard will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
Twist: Every player is limited to (2/3) posts per day (as well as their lynch posts, which cannot contain any extra information), and (2/3) at night. This forces players to be strategical with what and when they post, maybe waiting for information from key roles before making decisions.

Exceptions: A player that has been targeted by the Voice may post as many times per day or night cycle as they wish (within that cycle).

The player  that has at least 40% of the votes may post a defence and answer any other accusations relating to this until someone else has more votes than them. However, I won't tolerate any attempts to loophole this - no lynching someone just so they can say something important.

A player revived by the Angakkuq may post as much they want during their cycles.

Role List

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Angakkuq - May only revive someone temporarily TWICE
Cop
Wolfsbane

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Confere Wolf - Can use their ability TWICE
Mason

Voice - Each night, the voice chooses a player to let speak as much as they want. They also can choose to use this power on themselves if they wish. Wins if they stay alive (wins with anyone)
Amnesiac
Arsonist


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 21, 2017, 09:18:48 PM
No, the twist ruined it for me.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Kowhai on December 21, 2017, 10:07:53 PM
Please elaborate on your reasoning.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 21, 2017, 10:15:05 PM
Only 2/3 posts? What the heck? I don't like that at all.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 21, 2017, 10:19:50 PM
Voting No, feel like the Voice would kinda be a bit po


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: sansaery on December 21, 2017, 10:21:18 PM
No

The Voice can literally come out and say 'I'm the Voice, don't kill me' and is basically an easily confirmable Refugee

Limiting posts doesn't do much besides limit spam and then that just makes it so PMs are utilized more (at least I think that's what'll happen)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 21, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
No

The Voice can literally come out and say 'I'm the Voice, don't kill me' and is basically an easily confirmable Refugee

Limiting posts doesn't do much besides limit spam and then that just makes it so PMs are utilized more (at least I think that's what'll happen)

THIS.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 21, 2017, 11:01:53 PM
Voting No, feel like the Voice would kinda be a bit po
What the bleep happened

No feel like the Vouce would kinda be a bit pointless if it’s win condition is Unbiased
It can act like a Refugee blah blah what Rachel said

also I feel like limiting posts night AND day is a bit too much
if too much is limited, i feel like the game just won’t go as well as intended especially when two people claim the same role (like Seer) and it messes things up like that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Faiz on December 21, 2017, 11:21:04 PM
No, this is basically prokoting inactivity


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: sansaery on December 21, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
What the bleep happened

lolrip


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Abu on December 22, 2017, 01:15:21 AM
With improvements this looks like an AMAZING idea. I want to try the game.

But the voice should probably be some sort of mechanic implemented into the game, not a role. It would make no sense as Biased, but it is also too OP as Unbiased.

I usually put my thoughts into tons and tons of posts. This would force me to strategise differently. I like that.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Cosmic on December 22, 2017, 04:35:40 AM
With improvements this looks like an AMAZING idea. I want to try the game.

But the voice should probably be some sort of mechanic implemented into the game, not a role. It would make no sense as Biased, but it is also too OP as Unbiased.

I usually put my thoughts into tons and tons of posts. This would force me to strategise differently. I like that.
This is what I’m trying to go for with the game. I do understand all of the queries however. I appreciate this type of post by Lusamine much more than the one Cyrus made. Lusamine has given ideas on how to improve the game - Cyrus has just said ‘I don’t like it’.

I’m requesting that this is taken off of the bidding poll. I’d like to make a few changes to some mechanics.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 05:50:48 AM
What
No limiting posts is terrible, we want people to post a lot
This is just someone salty that there's often 6 or so pages to read...
I didn't even read the role list the "twist" is literally as bad as Captain's Daughter


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 05:57:42 AM
Silent Voices has been withdrawn from the poll at the bidder's request.

New bid:
Human
Shadow Human - Mason but black
Mason - thinks human
Knot Expert - survives first lynch, can't save self from second lynch due to guillotine instead of noose.

Psychic - dierolls against Rekda if both use ability, ability won't be used if loses.
Seer - gets a color, this time shadows steal black and independents use purple.
Bane - Wolfsbane but survives all attacks
Guardian - guards against shadows, dies if guards Rekda.
Unpunished Cop - Three bullets, turns human if either uses all bullets or if shoots blue.

(1) Wolf - kills in night.
(4) Shadow Shaman - seered Black, finds a color each night.
(3) Disg Wolf - seered Green.
(2) Brutal Wolf - kills someone upon lynch. does nothing if killed at night.

Rekda - Can control what UC (unpunished cop) or Wolves kill once in the game, can't use both, must choose one or the other. Kills guardian if guarded. Doesn't kill SC (shadow chimpanzee). Wins if makes to end.
Amnesiac - can remember a graveyard role, can choose any of the shadow roles given to him otherwise.

Shadow Chimpanzee - Can select a player to guard N1 and will guard that player for the rest of the game. The target is notified but won't know who the Shadow Chimpanzee is. Will win with guarded person if makes it to end.

Shadow Human - Mason but seered black instead of red.
Shadow Psychic - This shadow stores Rekda's old thoughts before she decided to lure the wolves to an unsafe spot and triggered the death trap herself.
Shadow Wolf - join the horde >:)
Shadow Chimpanzee - if he dies, you get him!
Shadow Swordsman - literally the most common enemy in all of LoZ. nah jk.. gets a kill every even night.
Shadow Maniac - maniac but shadow!
Shadow Necromancer - bring people from the shadows yourself!

A random two will be given.

Human : You can strat, vote, and geese out.
Mason : You can strat, vote, and geese out.
Shadow Human : You can strat, vote, and geese out.
Knot Expert : You can strat, vote, and untie that noose.
Seer : You can strat, vote, and steal dem colores.
Psychic : You can strat, vote, and rival Rekda, who was revived by mistake.
Guardian : You can strat, vote, and guard your towns. DON'T GUARD REKDA AT ALL COSTS!
Bane : You can strat, vote, and.. dodge dem attacks, I guess.
UC : You will be relieved of duty if you shoot a blue role. You won't be killed, though..
Wolf : You can strat, vote, and geese the humans out.
Shadow Wolf : You can strat, vote, and steal them colors while your black.
Disg. Wolf : You can strat, vote, and be seered green.
Brutal Wolf : You can strat, vote, and kil dem lynchers while you die
Rekda : Two pillars that crushed you? no problem. four wolves? no problem. killing your necromancer and savior? no problem. all this gathering? problem. maul them with your magic as revenge!!!!!!!
Amnesiac : You can strat, vote, and.. WHO ARE YOU!?
Shadow Chimpanzee : You were shot.. okay... do your nature.. don't forget to strat, vote, and geese out when your target is targeted.
18 players
18 roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 06:01:52 AM
Yeah I don't quite understand this bid
If someone wants to translate it so I can fairly judge it I'd be very grateful


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 06:09:49 AM
Well, which part are you confused about


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 06:15:00 AM
Psychic, purple roles, shadow chimpanzee, "messages"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 06:22:40 AM
Psychic is like normal, but if the Rekda uses their ability the same night, then which role gets to use their ability will be decided by a dice roll or coin toss, since they can't use their abilities at the same time
Purple is the independent colour, with black roles being shadow roles. Rekda is basically NB Psychic who canalso control the Cop. Amnesiac is like normal except they can instead choose one of two provided shadow roles at any point.
Shadow Chimp chooses someone night 1, they're guarded for as long as the Chimp is alive, wins if both them and their target are alive. Biased/Unbiased isn't specified, but they're presumably unbiased.
Messages are just the role PMs, not a gameplay feature.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 06:26:26 AM
And here's the bidder's explanation:
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
@nickito "messages" are just the role messages. Just so people know.
Psychic dierolls and loses on 1, 2 if Rekda does the same ability at the same time.
Same goes with Rekda.

Some are just illusions. The amnesiac can seem to be dead and remembers themselves as a fallen item. There are many fallen items, but not of this game yet. I forgot to nerf the previously fallen roles so that they don't do as much good as the recently fallen roles. The amnesiac can remember as amnesiac, therefore not wasting their ability. If the amnesiac prematurely remembers Shadow Chimpanzee (as in, remembers it before the role of it dies), they will be weaker, and only guard for two nights, as opposed to the eternity of the game. This does not mean they can guard other people, though.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Cosmic on December 22, 2017, 06:29:49 AM
What
No limiting posts is terrible, we want people to post a lot
This is just someone salty that there's often 6 or so pages to read...
I didn't even read the role list the "twist" is literally as bad as Captain's Daughter
I have no problem with reading through pages of posts. I was simply trying a new mechanic which forced users to strategise more.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Abu on December 22, 2017, 06:35:12 AM
What is dierolling?

Anyways maybe 5 posts per Day and 3 per Night is a better idea.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 06:42:12 AM
Dierolling is rolling a die. In this case, 1 and 2 mean that Rekda uses their ability over Psychic, 3-6 mean Psychic uses their ability over Rekda
I think, anyway


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 22, 2017, 06:43:00 AM
Nvm
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Psychic and Rekda have to roll a die to beat each other.

Each die is supposed to have 6 sides.
Psychic rolls die 1.

... Result is 3.
Rekda rolls die 2.
...Result is 3.
Tie breaker, then reroll.
Result is 6 (lucky roll :) )
Result is 4
Rekda loses, but doesn't lose her ability.. i think i put it that way.

Also, they still roll a die (i really need to break off my w40k) when they do it not at the same time.
Rekda and Psychic lose when they roll a 1.

glad psyker doesn't have to put up with all tihs mess. Not psyker-kun, but..


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: sansaery on December 22, 2017, 08:36:33 AM
So basically this is all up to chance

Yeah no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 22, 2017, 02:22:53 PM
no bc idk what that is


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Silent Voices)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 03:06:25 PM
I have no problem with reading through pages of posts. I was simply trying a new mechanic which forced users to strategise more.
How does limiting posts increase strategy
It limits it severely
No because any games with a random element shouldn't go through


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Abu on December 22, 2017, 03:14:01 PM
How does limiting posts increase strategy
It limits it severely
No because any games with a random element shouldn't go through
It forces you to think about what you should post. You have to make analayses without posting all the time.

Of course lynch posts would not count towards this limit.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
Maximum posts is a good way to create inactivity, because people are effectively punished for posting a lot


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Bandero on December 22, 2017, 07:09:58 PM
Voting no.

Purple roles, confusing colors, and a "shadow chimpanzee"

I think the gimmicks and new roles should be in seperate games, not all together


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Abu on December 22, 2017, 07:32:41 PM
Maximum posts is a good way to create inactivity, because people are effectively punished for posting a lot
Weren't you the one who said that the Tide Chimer encourages inactivity too?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Nickito on December 22, 2017, 07:36:50 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: dar on December 23, 2017, 08:34:08 AM
Yes. Purple Roles are presumably created because purple doesn't seem like a shadow color.
The bidder can explain this part, I'm just presuming.
I'd like to see this gimmick come to life, and I'd thank the bidder for somewhat improving my idea.
he/she really needs to lay off his w40k now


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Raven on December 23, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
Where is the gimmick tho??  ??? ???

I was so confused when I saw the post. Am I missing something? Whats shadow and fallen and stuff? Where does it say anything abt the limited posts thing?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 23, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
Because no random thing should go through?!
Oh well..

@RA I don't know why, it just seemed like a good deciding choice on if the psychic thingy succeeds.

I should've addressed the purple roles.

The purple roles, as it is obvious, are not shadows.
The black roles in this game are.
The black roles are... going to be shadows.
The black roles, I forgot to mention their victory, so just mention those who are living of the shadow roles, live at the end.




Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 23, 2017, 02:42:42 PM
Where is the gimmick tho??  ??? ???

I was so confused when I saw the post. Am I missing something? Whats shadow and fallen and stuff? Where does it say anything abt the limited posts thing?
Limited posts is part of the previous bid, they're just still discussing it for some reason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: sansaery on December 23, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
Still saying no because letting things go up to chance is useless because isn't TWG supposed to be about strategy, not chance


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 24, 2017, 07:17:16 AM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
@RA
Although not everyone has chance.
That was only with Psychic and Rekda.
Nobody else requires chance.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Nickito on December 24, 2017, 09:10:20 AM
That's two roles too many
That's like having a Captain's Daughter
"But only one town role knows the Wolves"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 24, 2017, 09:44:23 AM
I'm confused. I don't get the purple roles thing.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 24, 2017, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Anonymous bidder
The purple roles are neutrals. I couldn't find a fitting color for shadows that weren't black, so I made neutrals purple.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 24, 2017, 02:54:25 PM
maybe switch purple and black


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 24, 2017, 02:58:04 PM
maybe switch purple and black


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: sansaery on December 24, 2017, 05:25:15 PM
So? It's unfair if you're Psychic/Rekda if you basically leave everything up to chance


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 25, 2017, 04:18:14 AM
I'll vote No since the chances were just strictly out of hand for some reason.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 01:22:10 AM
DAMNIT
I THOUGHT I COULD BID WHEN TWG C STARTS
BUT THEN I REALIZED I COULDN'T
:(


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: Shadows of the Past)
Post by: Kowhai on December 27, 2017, 06:59:24 AM
Shadows of the Past will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG:The Throne
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf
False Insomniac
:Gets the visitors of a random player each night. Thinks they are Insomniac.
Seer
Guardian
Cop
Apprentice

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Stranger
Unstable
Clockmaker

Twist:On the first night, a random person is given the throne. That person cannot be killed at night. However, they have 2x the amount of lynch votes and can be lynched. If they are lynched, they give the throne to a person of their choice. At the end of the game, the person who has the throne automatically wins with the team that won, even if they are not on the same team. The person on the throne does not count to any teams.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 07:40:47 AM
No
there are too little blue roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Shendelzare on December 27, 2017, 07:43:08 AM
No
there are too little blue roles

Is there's some other more problems though? No, I'm curious, yet I'm not the one who made the bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: dar on December 27, 2017, 08:00:31 AM
yes
gimmick is unbiased


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: sansaery on December 27, 2017, 10:08:09 AM
No, not enough blue roles and I feel like false insomniac would be easy to deduce

Like say a human visits you and then they die and were actually a human

You'd clearly know you were false insomniac

And if the bidder changed it to, say, only visiting roles would be the people to 'visit' the false insomniac, they could just deduce who the humans are too


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Bandero on December 27, 2017, 10:20:10 AM
No, there are only four blue roles, and Seer and Apprentice don't go well together.

Also, "false" or "confused" roles are pretty easy to find.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Ataino on December 27, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
No, not enough blue roles and I feel like false insomniac would be easy to deduce

Like say a human visits you and then they die and were actually a human

You'd clearly know you were false insomniac

And if the bidder changed it to, say, only visiting roles would be the people to 'visit' the false insomniac, they could just deduce who the humans are too
He actually gets the visitor of a different person
Like a warden without knowing who they're warding


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 04:31:56 PM
Is Tide Chimer even necessary role to use? Theoretically we shouldn't be missing lynches so..


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Abu on December 27, 2017, 04:34:46 PM
Is Tide Chimer even necessary role to use? Theoretically we shouldn't be missing lynches so..
This is why it should be buffed though.

If we manage to buff it then if a wolf or neutral role misses a lynch, the Tide Chimer could steal it. This promotes activity on the other hand making it a good role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: sansaery on December 27, 2017, 06:10:18 PM
He actually gets the visitor of a different person
Like a warden without knowing who they're warding

then they know that that person's a visiting role...so they can deduce some things


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Nickito on December 27, 2017, 06:46:06 PM
so there's a role that can learn the identity of a visiting role
okay, no reason to call them a False Insomniac then, if it's causing confusion. Rename it to whatever, and change its description.

*new name* - Each night, learns the identity of a visiting role who used their ability that night. Can see the highest Wolf on the role list, can see the same name multiple times.

not feeling particularly creative, but that's essentially what the Fake Insomniac does right?
(btw even if I'm wrong I think this is actually a pretty cool role)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 07:15:00 PM
wait
I am kinda confused
does it learn the username and the exact role..?
or what?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Abu on December 27, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
so there's a role that can learn the identity of a visiting role
okay, no reason to call them a False Insomniac then, if it's causing confusion. Rename it to whatever, and change its description.

*new name* - Each night, learns the identity of a visiting role who used their ability that night. Can see the highest Wolf on the role list, can see the same name multiple times.

not feeling particularly creative, but that's essentially what the Fake Insomniac does right?
(btw even if I'm wrong I think this is actually a pretty cool role)
Please make this role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 27, 2017, 07:51:48 PM
No because too little blue roles


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Nickito on December 27, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
Please make this role.
looks like someone already did
if not then I guess I'll have to bid a game with it ::)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 08:05:28 PM
okay done that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: ZechAkari on December 30, 2017, 09:09:29 PM
upd


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: MariaYuki on December 30, 2017, 10:01:13 PM
It seems you guys dont get the purpouse of the false Insomnia. As the original creator, I will tell you what it means.
It is basically a Warden who watches over a random person that they do not choose. They think they are an insomniac. They do not know the role of the visitor.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 31, 2017, 07:14:14 AM
Just curious, knew a lot of players wanna try something like a hydra but it's gonna be difficult getting Matt to let us make alts for hydra accounts + doing in on a different forum while getting every player to actively check/cooperative like they would on the Flipline Forum...

What is the general consensus on something like this?

TWG: Hydra-phobia (because that was the first thing that came up in my head)

Before the start of game, players are randomly paired with a partner. Each pair shares a role.

Tentative Ideas for what comes next:
EITHER
- if one player in the pair dies, the other dies as well.
OR
- if one player in the pair dies, the other still lives, but have it so that there will be 2 night kills per night and 2 lynches per day (or 1 kill and 2 lynches)

- 24 hour nights or less/and up to 48 hour day shifts for discussion

Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Brutal Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Town Backup  

Wolf Shaman  
Mason  


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Ataino on December 31, 2017, 09:09:48 AM
that seems nice but imo what seems more logical is having 2 people share one spot through 2 accounts aka both are the same player with 2 different accounts


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Abu on December 31, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
that seems nice but imo what seems more logical is having 2 people share one spot through 2 accounts aka both are the same player with 2 different accounts
I thought this is what she meant.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Ataino on December 31, 2017, 09:16:50 AM
she said either and i stated my opinion :p


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 31, 2017, 09:34:46 AM
that seems nice but imo what seems more logical is having 2 people share one spot through 2 accounts aka both are the same player with 2 different accounts
Thats the whole point of the game..
Where these pairs are grouped in PM groups from start

she said either and i stated my opinion :p
The Either-Or section is only for when one member of the pair dies while the other remains alive.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Ataino on December 31, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
well i stated that both share the same spot aka both die at the same time


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 31, 2017, 09:40:25 AM
Another idea is to have people anonymously paired up for a role to each pair. And then have it so that the game progresses normally with 1 night kill/1 day lynch and just have the other player to a pair live despite the fact that the other dies.

It would certainly be interesting to see but I’m pretty tired right now so please point out if anything is wrong with these ideas.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 31, 2017, 06:04:12 PM
cool i expect silence means we all good


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: dar on January 01, 2018, 12:17:29 AM
I had a ninja kiwi account and I wasn't ba- oh you mean this forum XD


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Faiz on January 01, 2018, 01:06:54 AM
I have a suggestion

can we convince Matt to let us create some accounts that would ONLY be used for Hydra? Once every player is assigned a partner, they would be given an account and it's password. The host will have access to the password as well. Once game ends, the host will give the passwords of those accounts to the new host, who must change the passwords


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 01, 2018, 06:39:34 AM
he won’t let us


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Abu on January 01, 2018, 07:12:04 AM
So either we use KKE's ideas or abandon the hydra idea, or do it on another forum.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Leia on January 01, 2018, 07:51:14 AM
Not a huge fan honestly- hydra games get wicked confusing without alts. Maybe try color coding it- instead of alts, have each pair get a color that they have to post in so players can distinguish teams? I’m not entirely sure though


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Faiz on January 01, 2018, 08:34:10 AM
he won’t let us
I think he will, there seems no chance of delinquent behavior.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Abu on January 01, 2018, 08:39:39 AM
I think he will, there seems no chance of delinquent behavior.
No, Matt said that he will never allow alts for any circumstances. I have already asked for "non-delinquent" purposes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 01, 2018, 11:14:37 AM
Not a huge fan honestly- hydra games get wicked confusing without alts. Maybe try color coding it- instead of alts, have each pair get a color that they have to post in so players can distinguish teams? I’m not entirely sure though
oh, the pairs will be announced/known from start in a list
color coding also works too in addition to that, to make things easier (but i have a feeling that it will be hard af to get everyone to coordinate color coding)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 01, 2018, 04:12:50 PM
clarifying any confusion or shock i may have caused
never been high in my life and don’t drink
all my bids are made when i’m sober


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: MariaYuki on January 01, 2018, 04:17:05 PM
clarifying any confusion or shock i may have caused
never been high in my life and don’t drink
all my bids are made when i’m sober
You may say that, but can we be sure you are telling the truth.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: The Throne)
Post by: Kowhai on January 01, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
The Throne will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG - An Abnormal Evening Inside

Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason
Knot Expert

Seer
Guardian
Psychic
Psycho
Wolfsbane

Brutal Wolf
Disguised Wolf
Confrere Wolf
Wolf Shaman

Oracle
Supplier
Viligante


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 01, 2018, 04:21:40 PM
although it's a functional game, i am voting no bc it is too boring considering the plethora of games to be played and there is no role description for viligante


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Bandero on January 01, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
I agree, I think it's just a bit simple, and IDK what a viligante is.

At this point in time, with so many bids waiting to be played, a new bid should probably include some new roles to make it interesting.

Voting No


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 01, 2018, 04:30:25 PM
Personally, I think that the role line-up makes it interesting enough if tweaked a bit. If that is the issue, then introducing one new role, plus switching out Brutal Wolf for something and maybe Oracle should make this game more interesting.

Though in the meantime I vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Leia on January 01, 2018, 04:37:58 PM
Sorry, but it just seems boring to me. The role line-up isn't different enough for it to be that interesting. Psychic and Psycho aren't that abnormal, and Oracle and Supplier have been/will be used soon. Voting No.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Atomic on January 01, 2018, 05:20:22 PM
I'm voting yes, it might not be as fun as you can see it, but it is better than what most of you would say, A Normal Day Outside.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 01, 2018, 05:22:37 PM
I'm voting yes, it might not be as fun as you can see it, but it is better than what most of you would say, A Normal Day Outside.
That is why instead of being A Normal Day Outside, this is An Abnormal Evening Inside.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: dar on January 02, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 02, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
alright who made this? xD


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: dar on January 02, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
alright who made this? xD
that reminds me
i thought i bidded this at first when i looked at the rolelist.
my bad bids always surprise me.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Blue on January 03, 2018, 05:28:38 AM
I dont see an issue with this people say it is not interesting but it looks to be a fun game especially bc Psycho has not been used in a while

Vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 03, 2018, 10:05:55 PM
that reminds me
i thought i bidded this at first when i looked at the rolelist.
my bad bids always surprise me.

are you trying to roast the bidder?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 04, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
Wow. About 6 pending games and 6 on the waiting list...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 04, 2018, 12:33:34 PM
In my opinion, we should try not bidding for now.

@Anyone who is considering bidding

Your game probably won't get in because of the overloaded queue anyways.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 04, 2018, 03:28:13 PM
Well okay then.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 04, 2018, 03:34:12 PM
This game is 4-3 or 3-3 so I think it is getting in tough.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 04, 2018, 04:15:49 PM
That decreases my odds then :(


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 04, 2018, 04:36:10 PM
One yes vote doesn't provide reason, and that is unfortunately the one yes vote that would be required to pass the bid. However, the only argument for voting no is that it is boring, and while this is a valid reason to vote no, I'm not entirely sure as though it is an argument that should be refuted by those who wish to vote yes, due to it being a somewhat subjective issue.

Quick poll, should Gigi's vote be counted despite not providing reason?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 04, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 04, 2018, 04:46:10 PM
Oh, for this, provide reason either way
Otherwise I would just use the poll feature


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 04, 2018, 04:46:51 PM
why do we need to provide reason

no, he didn't provide reason or yes, that doesn't matter??

no, he didn't provide reason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 04, 2018, 04:48:39 PM
Him not providing reason is a problem because.../not a problem because...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 04, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
it's a problemo because ur supposed to provide reason


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 04, 2018, 05:04:07 PM
^
rules are rules
can't make exceptions when they haven't been stated

Gigi didn't provide reasoning when it was clearly stated that his vote had to be explained in a post. Can't make an exception for him.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Bandero on January 04, 2018, 05:05:43 PM
Well, he didn't give reasoning, so it shouldn't be counted.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 04, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
I agree, I think it's just a bit simple, and IDK what a viligante is.

At this point in time, with so many bids waiting to be played, a new bid should probably include some new roles to make it interesting.

Voting No
Not knowing what a Viligante is isn't a reason..just check the HQ.

Btw this is my bid. Voting yes because I want it to happen. Will address the no's here soon.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 04, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
Sorry, but it just seems boring to me. The role line-up isn't different enough for it to be that interesting. Psychic and Psycho aren't that abnormal, and Oracle and Supplier have been/will be used soon. Voting No.

I don't read through all the bids, This is my first bid and I'm still learning on how to setup gimmicks and what new roles could be interesting.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 04, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
From the HQ:
Vigilante - 3 times in the game, can kill 1 player at night. Wins if they make it to the end.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 04, 2018, 06:14:37 PM
although it's a functional game, i am voting no bc it is too boring considering the plethora of games to be played and there is no role description for viligante

same for Green


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kirby on January 04, 2018, 06:29:27 PM
No because it's too boring and it's not specified if viligante has 1 or 4 bullets


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 04, 2018, 06:42:38 PM
Seer
Guardian
Psychic
Psycho
Wolfsbane

Also voting No because the same argument for Necromancer could be used for Wolfsbane. It can give rise to miller gaming. No one is gonna attack a confirmed wolfsbane.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 05, 2018, 02:21:52 PM
How do you confirm a Wolfsbane though?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 05:38:39 PM
Seer I suppose


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 05, 2018, 05:42:35 PM
Or one could just claim Wolfsbane, and they'd be more or less confirmed immediately


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 05:43:45 PM
Or one could just claim Wolfsbane, and they'd be more or less confirmed immediately
that worked well in one game some time ago


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 05, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
Of course, All Any rolelists are another matter


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
yeah of course

thinking of bidding something sometime in the near future, will probably let the queue go down first though.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 05, 2018, 07:01:40 PM
Or one could just claim Wolfsbane, and they'd be more or less confirmed immediately
But that's true for every blue role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:03:36 PM
But that's true for every blue role.
But why would other blue roles claim (making an exception for Seer/Warden finding an evil role)? It could just be their ticket to death if they claim recklessly like that. As for Wolfsbane, they won't have to worry.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 05, 2018, 07:14:16 PM
But why would other blue roles claim (making an exception for Seer/Warden finding an evil role)? It could just be their ticket to death if they claim recklessly like that. As for Wolfsbane, they won't have to worry.
Neutral Biased Roles etc.

Look, we need to stop trying to end all Miller gaming. Unless you want to ban all PMs, ban all roleclaiming or make every game vanilla roles only there is no way to prevent it from being a possibility.

The fact is that if a Wolfsbane said "hey I'm Wolfsbane give me roles", people could abuse that, especially the real wolves and the like. What we need to do is balance the Town roles and the wolf roles.

We shouldn't never use Necromancer and Angakkuq again; we just need to make sure that when they are used, the wolves are able to stand against them.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:31:58 PM
I mean, to be fair, I never really had much problems with Necro/Wolfsbane until there suddenly happened to be some sort of movement against these 2 roles out of the blue.

Personally, I like Necromancer. A lot of neutral biased evils can make good advantage of that, by claiming a blue role and then potentially have Necro revive them.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 05, 2018, 07:36:19 PM
imo there aren't any roles currently in use that I think need the Miller treatment


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:36:26 PM
wait people don’t like necromancer and Wolfsbane?

bloop


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 05, 2018, 07:38:40 PM
I think it's only like two or three people, I doubt a bid would fail just because it contains Necromancer/Wolfsbane.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
I am fine as long as there is something more unique about the game (new gimmick)
just don't have those 2 in a game when it's a standard gimmickless mafia game


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:39:51 PM
right ok I’m fine then
and yes this means I have bid
and it’s got a great name


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:40:14 PM
only reason I denied the current bid was because it had no gimmick and there was nothing special about it and we already have more than enough games to be played


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 05, 2018, 07:40:54 PM
right ok I’m fine then
and yes this means I have bid
and it’s got a great name

The Hamilton one is yours


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 05, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
A gimmick isn't necessary to have a good game
The bid I have on the queue doesn't have a gimmick, but I feel like the role list is unique enough to feel different.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
The Hamilton one is yours
well yes
it has nothing to do with hamilton

also ‘someone’ managed to name a game after a hamilton song before it reached broadway


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
WAIT FOR IT WAIT FOR IT
I AM THE ONE THING IN LIFE I CAN CONTROLLL


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:44:30 PM
I am inimitable I am an originalllll


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
I am not fallin' behind or runnin laaate


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:46:03 PM
I’m not standing still I am lying in waitttt


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 05, 2018, 07:46:48 PM
smh you guys keep forgetting the ensemble

(wait
wait
wait)

Hamilton faces an endless uphill climb


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 05, 2018, 07:48:51 PM
he has something to prooove
he has nothing to lo-ose
lo-ose
lo-ose
lo-ose
lo-ose


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 05, 2018, 07:51:04 PM
Hamilton’s pace is relentless he wastes no time
time
time
time


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Leia on January 05, 2018, 07:51:28 PM
ffs you guys http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22913.0


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 06, 2018, 05:12:42 AM
I mean, to be fair, I never really had much problems with Necro/Wolfsbane until there suddenly happened to be some sort of movement against these 2 roles out of the blue.
I know it wasn't intended but, nice pun.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 06:07:46 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD
I LOVE YOU FOR NOTICING THAT


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 05:13:30 PM
hamilton doesn’t hesitate
he exhibits no restraint
he takes and he takes and he takes
and he keeps winning anyway!!

I had to because I love that part
sorry

but I will make a relevant post

update?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 06, 2018, 05:18:39 PM
he changes the game, he plays and he raises the stakes

yeah an update would be nice, although I’m willing to wait for it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 06, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
H A H A F U N N I E P U N S


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 06, 2018, 05:20:10 PM
w o u l d l e i a a p p r o v e


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
he changes the game, he plays and he raises the stakes

yeah an update would be nice, although I’m willing to wait for it
LMFAOOOOO
Life doesn't discriminate between the sinners (those like us) and the saints (those patiently waiting for an update)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 06, 2018, 05:25:21 PM
bleepin update


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 05:26:57 PM
it takes and it takes and it takes 5 years to update


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 06, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Suggestion intended to shorten the gap between bidding and hosting:

Change the bidding system so that bidding is closed until there are two games to be played, at which point bidding is open. When there is one game to be played, all bids are polled at once (or in two parts) if more than 5 bids are submitted). Games which are successful will then be sorted based on the ratio by which they won (games which won with a better ratio will be played sooner, unless the bidder wishes otherwise).

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 05:56:10 PM
Sure, lets go with it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Leia on January 06, 2018, 05:56:53 PM
Question, how are all the bids going to be polled at once


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 06, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
no actual poll i think


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 06, 2018, 05:58:07 PM
Just do this

Yes for ___ because ____

No for ____ because ____

etc etc


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 06, 2018, 05:58:28 PM
Put all the bids up, If we are doing a poll, make it multiple option. If not, it will be confusing I guess


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 06, 2018, 05:59:23 PM
The Bidding Topic doesn't use the poll feature, so it's not a problem


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 06, 2018, 06:28:47 PM
Change it to when we have three games on the queue and I agree.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 06, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
Okay, sure
I also think we should probably set the restrictions on who can and can't bid back in place. They existed mainly to prevent this from happening. If we're shrinking the size of the queue to 2 or 3 (I'd prefer 3), someone should not be able to bid when they have a game on the queue.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 06, 2018, 08:49:13 PM
I reckon people should just be able to bid once every cycle, don't see the harm in that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 06, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
So, the idea is that we start having bidding cycles. People send in bids, and when the queue shrinks to a certain amount, say 3 games, all of the bids go up at once, and people can discuss them all at once, and vote all at once. This is so that people can compare games I'm assuming.

I feel like some games would get lost in the discussion, so I think that all of the games should be posted at once, but voting should go on for one game at a time.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 06, 2018, 08:54:44 PM
Maybe the second bid can start being polled the day before the first stops being polled. Want to make sure all are polled before the previous cycle ends.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 06, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
If possible, could someone post a format of how this would look like...? As in not just describing it. I am having difficulty getting it.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 06, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Maybe the second bid can start being polled the day before the first stops being polled. Want to make sure all are polled before the previous cycle ends.
3 games should be enough if we move at a quick speed. I'd base it off of how many bids are in each cycle because I doubt it will be consistent.
If possible, could someone post a format of how this would look like...? As in not just describing it. I am having difficulty getting it.
"Here are the bids entered for Cycle 1.
We will start by voting on Bid 1."

^That's what I imagine


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 06, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
Okay thanks.

I support this.

(https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/0/0d/Sycamore_Zigzagoon.png/200px-Sycamore_Zigzagoon.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 06:03:24 AM
I know that most people here don't  use discord, but it''s easier to make multiple polls over there.. Idk, just thought I could help somehox


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 12:46:17 PM
Not using a poll feature though


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: sansaery on January 07, 2018, 01:06:42 PM
I know that most people here don't  use discord, but it''s easier to make multiple polls over there.. Idk, just thought I could help somehox

not everything's about discord ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
not everything's about discord ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
chill miss read the last sentence lol


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 01:26:22 PM
Wait
so if this thing becomes official
then all 7 bids on the queue right now just would have to be bidded later?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 01:27:11 PM
Correct


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 01:27:58 PM
So, after Lost Connection we start taking turns?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 01:29:03 PM
taking turns?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 01:30:36 PM
Taking turns voting on the bids.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
I still don't understand


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
"So, after Lost Connection we start taking turns voting on the bids?" I believe he meant your idea by that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 01:40:28 PM
The new system will be implemented immediately, and bidding will open once A Normal Day Outside ends, assuming we've decided to change the bidding period to when three games are left


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 01:43:56 PM
The new system will be implemented immediately, and bidding will open once A Normal Day Outside ends, assuming we've decided to change the bidding period to when three games are left
I think three works depending on how this goes.

If we vote on all 7 at the same time, make it two games.
If we take turns cycling through bids. Make it three.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
oh also, vote no. we've had a normal game recently (mine) (if voting is still up)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
oh also, vote no. we've had a normal game recently (mine) (if voting is still up)
But the whole point is for it to be abonrrror


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
an abonrrror what


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
abnormal


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 01:56:37 PM
Abnorrrnrnroororororoororooororororrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 02:29:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mgWbbvG.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Nickito on January 07, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
please stop spamming


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 02:43:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mgWbbvG.png)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 02:44:31 PM
For bleeps sake


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Abu on January 07, 2018, 02:48:00 PM
It's me everyday


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 03:49:05 PM
What comes next? (in the bidding poll topic)
You been freed
Do you know
How hard it is to leadd?

Ya own your own
Awesome, WOW!
Do you have a clue what happens now? (@Qazikol)

*summons IllogicallyIllogical*


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 07, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
Oceans rise
Empires fall
It’s much harder when it’s all your call (on which bids are good)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 03:52:08 PM
All alone
Across the sea
When your people say they hate you(r bids)
Don't come crawlin' back to me (don't come complaining to Qazikol)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Cosmic on January 07, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
You’re on your own... (as to what you vote on each bid)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
You forgot the
Dada da dat daaa dat dadada daa yaa da


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bid: An Abnormal Evening Inside)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
An Abnormal Evening Outside will not be an official TWG.

Due to the implementation of the new bidding system, bidding is now closed until A Normal Day Outside ends. Anyone with a bid currently on the queue must rebid when it opens.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 03:57:52 PM
OUR SINGING WORKED @II


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Cosmic on January 07, 2018, 04:00:06 PM
wait I have to resubmit my bid again?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Nickito on January 07, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
You may as well keep the poll open. If you're worried about not having enough time to get through all of the games in a reasonable period of time, then why would you shut down the poll completely?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 04:11:01 PM
If the poll isn't shut down, then there will just be gradually more and more bids to be played in the queue and this is really annoying because it can really interfere with people's schedules. Like say I bidded something in February and it got accepted. Chances are, I might not be able to host it until like, July, and I don't know my July commitments/schedule all the way back in February, literally a month from now.

Plus, when all bids are done at once, it gives people multiple bids to look at and assess at the same time, so they can kind of compare them together instead of one at a time.

Say Bid Y was bidded 3 games after Bid X. based off of the previous thing we just had, this could happen. Bid X was fine so it got accepted along with a few other bids that are just fine. Bid Y coulda been more interesting, but then because of more bids, people go like "No".

When people see more bids at once, they might go like "Oh, Bid X and [insert 1 other bid] are fine, but we would rather play Bid Y, basing it off of all the bids bidded. So lets vote Yes for Bid Y and [insert one random bid], and vote No for [Bid X] and insert another random bid]


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 04:14:42 PM
wait I have to resubmit my bid again?
Copying and pasting and sending a message doesn't take much time.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Ataino on January 07, 2018, 04:15:41 PM
But what if you din't have it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 04:21:28 PM
I can send it to people who don't have theirs if they ask. That said, why the bleep wouldn't you have it when it's your bid?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Nickito on January 07, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
Why do we need to resend anyway?
You still have access to the bids, it's just complicating things as far as I can tell


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
If people go inactive in the period or decide they don't want to bid
Just for confirmation, basically


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: dar on January 07, 2018, 10:21:19 PM
.....whoops.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 10:28:46 PM
wait so bids can be sent in at any time but they will only be put up once there are like 2 games to be played


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on January 07, 2018, 10:31:29 PM
If you submit a bid early, you'll need to confirm that you're bidding it once bidding officially opens.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 07, 2018, 10:34:21 PM
okie dokie


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 09, 2018, 09:19:42 AM
Ffs sake are you joking? Well PM please bidding opens...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 11, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
Would anyone wanna do a girl a favor and check her TWG bid idea for her?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 12, 2018, 01:05:30 AM
I could..

if you check mine


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 12, 2018, 01:17:33 AM
ya sure
tmrw


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on January 12, 2018, 02:21:09 PM
I'll check yours KKE


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 12, 2018, 03:22:24 PM
damn okthanks guys
now this is just the question of whether i should get out my bed or not to go to my laptop so i can show the bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Nickito on January 12, 2018, 06:25:03 PM
I'll check if you'd like


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: ZechAkari on January 12, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Anyone wanna see my bid


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 13, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
Red and Lusamine are gamebanned from my next game.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blue on January 13, 2018, 03:46:59 PM
Red and Lusamine are gamebanned from my next game.
Grow up

I cant play this game with u making 20 pages of spam

U can take the higher ground than Lusamine who still says he hasnt made a mistake


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on January 13, 2018, 04:00:58 PM
Considering that KKE willing let herself get modkilled I'd say she did

And Lusamine is game-banned from my next game unless his behavior completely changes before then


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: sansaery on January 13, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
What did Red do?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blue on January 13, 2018, 04:34:06 PM
What did Red do?
Tell her to grow up and stop spamming


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: sansaery on January 13, 2018, 04:34:41 PM
Tell her to grow up and stop spamming

That doesn't warrant gameban, and I'm sorry but y'all need to know


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 13, 2018, 04:34:44 PM
What did Red do?
Throw the wolves to Lusamine


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on January 13, 2018, 04:46:38 PM
KKE, do you want to play in the re-roll? It's fine if you don't


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blue on January 13, 2018, 04:47:05 PM
Throw the wolves to Lusamine

Lol no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Keeza Andrews on February 05, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
aaaaaaaaand...
NOW! (tries to slam button)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on February 05, 2018, 06:27:22 PM
It's not until the end of the next game


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Keeza Andrews on February 05, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
oh


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Leia on February 06, 2018, 03:44:39 PM
For future reference, how many bids are we allowed to submit during the bidding period


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Nickito on February 06, 2018, 04:33:47 PM
I don't know why we would be able to submit more than 1


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 06, 2018, 04:35:47 PM
Mhm, it's one bid per person per period


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Leia on February 06, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Alright hmu if you want a bid, there are a whole lot of gimmicks I want to play and I'm only one person


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 06, 2018, 04:42:23 PM
quick question
who here is planning to bid omg

me


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 06, 2018, 04:54:40 PM
I may be.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on February 06, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
me


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 06, 2018, 05:06:36 PM
holy christ

so far I know

Leia
Me
Qazikol
Green


and then there's likely

Lore
Nickito
Kiefer
Keeza
Lusamine
Harrington
skylark89
and possibly much more

my goodness


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Keeza Andrews on February 06, 2018, 05:58:24 PM
My bids were just to fill in the time.......................................... I don't plan to host from now on.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 06, 2018, 08:15:08 PM
oh
so i assum you aren't bidding


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Nickito on February 06, 2018, 08:39:25 PM
I'm bidding with the game I showed you earlier


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Cosmic on February 07, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
I mean I’m bidding


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 09, 2018, 03:56:21 PM
Request: Since this topic is often used specifically to check upcoming TWGs, I feel like a list of upcoming TWGs only could be added somewhere in the first post just for easier access and simplicity.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 09, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Bolded the games which are upcoming in the current list.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Raven on February 10, 2018, 02:26:21 PM
Should I try to fix my bid Myths and kinda like rebid it?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Atomic on February 10, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
holy christ

so far I know

Leia
Me
Qazikol
Green


and then there's likely

Lore
Nickito
Kiefer
Keeza
Lusamine
Harrington
skylark89
and possibly much more

my goodness

I had a bid on the queue and this closed just when my bid was to be bidded on due to overflow.

So yes, I will bid immediately after this opens.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 09:51:47 PM
i kinda wanna bid but i am kinda scared lol


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 03:10:07 AM
/in as mod


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 03:24:41 AM
(Bidding Status: Closed)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 03:30:33 AM
   Topic: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)  (Read 74598 times)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 03:32:20 AM
Indeed


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 03:34:10 AM
Bidding is currently closed. It will open upon the end of TWG CIII: A Normal Day Outside.


Is this still legit?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 03:35:10 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 03:35:55 AM
Thanks


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 03:37:08 AM
You're welcome


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 04:11:02 AM
The game ended
It should be open now


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
If anyone wants a backup mod, Im ok with being backup mod


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
The game ended
It should be open now
It has not been officially ended, Lore has just suggested it
If anyone wants a backup mod, Im ok with being backup mod
Pardon?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kirby on February 11, 2018, 07:31:08 AM
we use the term "host"
our "mods" don't even play this game anymore (except for lusamin)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 11, 2018, 07:36:51 AM
If anyone wants a backup mod, Im ok with being backup mod
If you mean a co-host, then perhaps you could co-host Lost Connection with Sodium Chloride since HG doesn't play TWG anymore.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
I can cohost my bad



Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Bandero on February 11, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
You can co-host if you want, but maybe it would be better to be a shadow, to learn how to host and Salt can mentor you.

Remember, this game is quite different from mafia, and I noticed you using a lot of mafia terms in A Normal Day Outside. I used to play a lot of online mafia, and I know what those thinks mean like WIFOM and pr, but not everyone does. And, in the mafia site I used, "blue" meant any town role, including human, which could cause confusion here.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 11, 2018, 10:17:13 AM
It seems to me like co-hosting became synonymous with shadowing a while ago. It depends on how you go about it. Both hosts can be actively involved or it could be only one.

Sodium Chloride is more experienced so he could send out roles and make the topics, and then Red Velvet could see how the host acts, while having a few opportunities to update, compile lynch lists and maybe help with MVPs.

So pretty much what Green suggested actually, just that they would still be co-hosts.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Leia on February 11, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
I think maybe we should have Sodium Chloride decide whether or not he wants a cohost before making plans for him

Also Red Velvet do you want a game to bid? I have a few regimmicks that I want to play.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Atomic on February 11, 2018, 02:35:35 PM
With all these rerolls, it seems I will wait a LONG time to rebid my bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kirby on February 19, 2018, 05:03:01 AM
What is the role list for lost connection?
Trying to dig it.up


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kirby on February 19, 2018, 05:04:22 AM
Nvm found it
Players' Preference will not be an official TWG.

New bid:
TWG: Lost Connection
With the exception of the wolves, PMs between players are NOT allowed.

Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Human- Has no special ability.
Lackey- Knows one blue role.
Knot Expert- Will survive their first lynch.
Disguised Wolf-  Appears green in Seer checks.

Seer-  Each night, they can choose to see one player's colour.
Guardian- Each night, they can choose a player to guard. Whoever they choose cannot be killed by other roles that night.
Stalker - Each night they can follow a player to see who they visit.
Cop- Can shoot 2 players in the game, 1 per night, from Night 2 onwards. Kills themself if they shoot a blue role.
Gentleman- Lynch vote counts for 2.

Wolf- Has no special ability.
Brutal Wolf- When lynched, can kill a player.
Eidetic Wolf- Can see who visits them at night.
Mason- Is told that they are human, but they are seered red.

Sun God- Can kill twice during the day.
Amnesiac- Once per game, can remember the role of a dead player. They will become that role and take that role's win condition.
was there any changes requested to role list though?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 19, 2018, 06:06:35 AM
No, but Gentleman is now green.


Title: Re: Bidding Poll Topic (Current Bid: Lost Connection)
Post by: Leia on February 19, 2018, 08:20:28 AM
Ok cool, so I'll change it so that the wolves can only communicate at night.

As for the Lackey/Gentleman situation, how would you all feel if I changed Gentleman to Wolfsbane and then changed Lackey to Inosmniac?
These were the changes I believe


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kirby on February 19, 2018, 08:36:00 AM
nvm didn't see leia's post


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Kirby on February 19, 2018, 08:52:18 AM
i'll hold a poll on lacky/insomaniac when lore updates


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)
Post by: Abu on February 19, 2018, 09:29:31 AM
These were the changes I believe
We wanted to keep them. No PMs and no Lackey = annoying.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 21, 2018, 12:49:14 PM
Bidding is open, send in.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 24, 2018, 03:16:10 AM
I have a new bid but it needs modifications. Can somebody help me make it perfect to send it? Please. I know it will be rejected how it is so I need some help from some kind of an expert. If somebody is willing to help me I will send him the prototype


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 24, 2018, 03:32:39 AM
that's sexist /s


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: -PRoyale- on February 24, 2018, 03:36:11 AM
that's sexist /s
I didn't say anything referring to sexes. If you wanna help, just let me know.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on February 24, 2018, 05:52:51 AM
I didn't say anything referring to sexes. If you wanna help, just let me know.
"s/" means it is a joke, similar to the strikethrough.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 24, 2018, 12:59:06 PM
joke /s


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 24, 2018, 02:53:55 PM
haven't actually checked my bid since I made it in 2017 whoops


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 24, 2018, 10:35:11 PM
Are bids anonymous?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 24, 2018, 10:46:35 PM
Yes, the bidder's name is revealed only if the bid passes, or if they reveal.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 24, 2018, 11:29:05 PM
What is the current bid?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 24, 2018, 11:31:06 PM
The system was changed.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 24, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
what


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 24, 2018, 11:37:23 PM
See the first post.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 24, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
dont get it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 24, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1950896#msg1950896
Plus the following discussion


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 24, 2018, 11:55:56 PM
It's basically the exact same as last time except all squished together


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 27, 2018, 01:39:54 PM
@Everyone who sent me their bid
No problems too lazy to respond


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Keeza Andrews on February 27, 2018, 07:10:16 PM
Surprising as it may seem, I have no bids for now.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 27, 2018, 07:20:03 PM
Are all bids viewed at once?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 07:33:04 PM
All the bids will be initially revealed at once, then voted on individually, in alphabetical order


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 27, 2018, 07:53:05 PM
why alphabetically order
what's wrong with submission order


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 08:03:52 PM
Why submission order?

Alphabetical order is more random and less likely to follow a pattern, that's all


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 27, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
What pattern would submission order even follow though


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
Well, for a start, my bid would always be first


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Nickito on February 27, 2018, 08:09:03 PM
If you want to do a random order, then just randomise the order
Alphabetical order isn't random, and in the past similar bids have had similar titles, so there's a possibility that we could get 2 similar games in a row


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
Except the order in which games will be played isn't alphabetical, it's based on the ratio by which they passed, so that doesn't matter


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 27, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
Can I like, resubmit and change the title


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 27, 2018, 08:26:48 PM
Actually mine would be first

Abnormal Evening Inside


Age of something

It was never " An Abnormal Evening Inside "


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
It is An Abnormal Evening Outside though


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on February 27, 2018, 08:28:46 PM
Inside*

this new bidding system sucks


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 27, 2018, 08:29:45 PM
1. Don't split hairs, you know the point
2. Thanks for the constructive criticism


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on February 28, 2018, 04:50:14 AM
Yeah. SUCKS. So bad. Stupid order. I can't bother to learn about. BAD!!!


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 28, 2018, 05:33:03 AM
Mine got pushed down a few :(


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Ataino on February 28, 2018, 05:36:36 AM
Can I bid now


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 28, 2018, 05:37:41 AM
"Bidding Status: Open"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on February 28, 2018, 06:41:51 AM
I am about to submit.

Also, instead of uselessly complaining, I will comment on what I think; the order should be randomised. You can change TWG names after bidding anyways, and I don't think there's much doubt that some people will start naming their bid with A's and B's or even numbers before switching it if it gets in.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 28, 2018, 12:14:54 PM
at least have it so that people can't change titles once submitted
i don't mind the alphabetized stuff but yeah
lusamine has a point


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on February 28, 2018, 12:46:05 PM
at least have it so that people can't change titles once submitted
i don't mind the alphabetized stuff but yeah
lusamine has a point
No sometimes we want it to be changed for unrelated reasons.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on February 28, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Mhm, sure, I'll randomise


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 02, 2018, 02:53:54 PM
I have 5 bids but I am 100% sure they all need improvement. I work with Leia on one of those.
Names:
Mind Games
The Five Functions
Wolf Feast
Double Take
0:01 Am


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on March 02, 2018, 04:36:38 PM
0:01 AM

thats an interesting name


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 02, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
ong i hope the five functions is about math :D


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kirby on March 03, 2018, 04:42:19 AM
f(x)=g'(x)=h^-1(x)=k'(x)/n^-1(x) and i have no idea what i just typed


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 03, 2018, 04:46:33 AM
ong i hope the five functions is about math :D
No it's based on the movie Divergent


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on March 03, 2018, 04:54:31 AM
I'm writing a bid rn


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on March 03, 2018, 05:56:46 AM
No it's based on the movie Divergent
That sounds really cool, actually.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 03, 2018, 06:09:57 AM
f(x)=g'(x)=h^-1(x)=k'(x)/n^-1(x) and i have no idea what i just typed
f(x) = sinx/x

and dudeeee
you do know those are called FACTIONS not functions right?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: ZechAkari on March 03, 2018, 06:19:55 AM
i made a bid

who wants to see it


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Atomic on March 03, 2018, 06:28:20 AM
i made a bid

who wants to see it
I think asking that question would spark lots of attention here.

In other words, I'd like to see the bid.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Abu on March 03, 2018, 06:28:57 AM
I already sent in my bid, it's Kainu Mosir. Based on Distant Lands.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 03, 2018, 06:53:50 AM
Could someone create three new roles about my latest bid: Cyberbullying?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 03, 2018, 06:54:46 AM
What an interesting name


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Ataino on March 03, 2018, 01:17:26 PM
Could someone create three new roles about my latest bid: Cyberbullying?
Cyberbully, cyberbullied and cybercop


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Atomic on March 03, 2018, 01:21:21 PM
If anyone wants to check my next bid that will follow the bid I bidded in this bid phase, be sure to let me know in PM or say it here and I'll PM the rolelist and look for feedback.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Ataino on March 07, 2018, 01:01:34 PM
Isn't is up posed to start today


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 07, 2018, 01:02:57 PM
People have school and sleep schedules


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on March 07, 2018, 01:20:02 PM
Will start when I have sufficient time, probably in 20 minutes from now


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on March 07, 2018, 01:51:32 PM
Bidding is now closed, and voting shall start.
12 bids have been submitted. Due to the 20000 character limit they shall have to be split into two posts:
TWG: The Penitentiary

Gimmick:
1.) Every role is randomly assigned a unique number from 1-18 prior to the start of the game.

2.) Half of the wolves (randomly selected) and 5 of 11 town players will be given two Cellmate Inspections at the start of the game. A Cellmate Inspection grants the player the ability to choose one number anywhere from 1-18 on a night of choice.

3. If you don't feel the need to have your own CI but were given one, you can always give it off to someone else for strategical purposes. That someone will then receive the CI the night AFTER you gave it away. No one player can receive more than 3 CIs in a game.

4.) If you choose any number that corresponds to the roles of Human, Disguised Wolf, Necromancer, Amnesiac (before remembering), or Oracle, you will get no result at all.

5.)If your number corresponds with…you will receive the message of..
Insomniac or Espionage Wolf: [X] visited you tonight!
Seer: [X] is [color]!
Dauber Wolf: [X] is [painted color]!
Warden: [X] visited [X] tonight!
Guardian: You guarded [X] tonight!
Prisoner: You have killed [X]!
Wolf: You have killed [X]!
Wanderer: You have shot [X]! (otherwise nothing, if didn't shoot)
Amnesiac before remembering: You have no result.
Amnesiac on the night of remembering: You successfully remembered as [X] tonight!
Amnesiac AFTER the night of remembering: [insert the message for the role they remembered as. If the role they remembered as somehow doesn't have a message, then they will always receive "You successfully remembered as [X] tonight!"] no matter what
Other: You have no result.

Hint: Try to create a list of which number aligns with which role by speaking with different players who’ve used inspections as well as looking at claims. Numbers ARE revealed upon death. Remember that the number is role-based, not player-based.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
- sees who visits them at night
Disguised Wolf

Seer - check someone each night to see their color
Necromancer - can revive a dead player in game
Warden - chooses a target and sees who visits the target
Wanderer - Can kill 2 players per game. If they kill a blue role they die that night, and if they kill a green role, they can't shoot the next night and they die the night after that.
Guardian - guards someone each night; has a self-vest

Wolf
Dauber Wolf
- can change of the color of a player three times per game; paint lasts for two nights including the night the player was painted
Espionage Wolf - wolf version of the Insomniac
Mason

Prisoner - kills someone on ODD nights, beats all if makes it to the end. If they happen to attempt to attack someone the Warden is watching, they won't be shown as visiting. They will only just not attack.
Oracle - Each night, predicts who will be lynched the next day. Each day, predicts who will be killed the next night. Wins if at least 3 predictions are correct.
Amnesiac - can remember as the role of a dead player
TWG: Mixing Things Up

I decided to change some roles a bit. Only roles with new names have been changed.

Human - Has no special ability.
Human
Mason - A Human who is seen as red by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Wrathful - A Human who is seen as guilty by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Researcher - Each night, learns the identity of someone who visited another player that night. Can see the same person twice.
Leader - Lynch vote counts for amount of town left divided by 3, rounded down.

Observer - Twice per game, can choose to see if someone is good (Town, Unbiased), or evil (Wolf, Biased). Otherwise, they can choose to see someone's colour.
Coroner - Each time someone dies, the Coroner sees what colour they are at the time of death.
Guardian Angel - Four times in the game, they can give someone an extra ability. They can give someone the ability to avoid death during the day once up to three times, or give someone the abiltity to avoid death during the night once. They can give abilities to the same people multiple times.
Distractor - Each night, can distract someone and prevent them from using their ability.
Cop - 2 times starting Night 2 they can shoot and kill another player. If they shoot another blue role, the Cop will also die.
Necroprentice - Once per game, they can revive someone. This is public. Unfortunately, they're just an Apprentice, so the revived role has limited capability. They cannot send PMs to other players or answer PMs sent to them. They can still PM the host, use actions, and post in the thread.

Brutaler Wolf - When they are lynched, they kill someone. While the Brutaler Wolf is alive, the Wolves can kill twice in one night once.
Confrere Wolf - Twice per game, can visit a player. If the player has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use it once. The original player will not lose any uses of their role.
Wolf Shaman - Each night, visits a player and learns their colour.
Tricky Wolf - Whenever they want, they can change the colour that the Coroner or Seer sees them as.

Inquisitor - Each night can choose to kill someone. If for whatever reason their kill does not go through (Guardian Angel, Distractor), then they will die. They will appear to have been killed by an Inquisitor, and their planned target will become the new Inquisitor. Wins if they make it to the end.
Choosy Amnesiac - Each night can change their role to that of a dead player. They will receive all attributes of that role, but they keep the ability to change their role.
TWG: Wait For It

Twist: Deaths are delayed a cycle. The lynchee will be killed the night after they are lynched (ex. Leia is lynched Day 1, she dies after Night 2 ends). Their faction will be announced when they die (wolf or not wolf). The same goes for anyone dying at night - they will die at the end of the day, unaware they have been attacked until that time (ex. KitKatExtreme is wolfed Night 1, she will die after Day 1 ends, unaware she is dying until it happens). If the Maniac is lynched, the fact they are Maniac will be announced the next morning, and the person they decide to kill will die the next day. Brutal Wolf victims will die at the same time as the Brutal Wolf. Seer, Shaman and Insomniac results will still be given at normal times (unless people want these to be delayed too). Guardian actions will be delayed (ex. Leia is attacked Night 3, but the Guardian guards her. Leia will not die Day 3). Necromancer won’t be affected. Arsonist will only be affected when they decide to ignite - dousing will happen the night the action is given).

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Cop
Wolfsbane

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Arsonist
Amnesiac
Maniac
TWG: Operation: Evolution

Twist-: Each person has a sequence of roles shown in the role list below. Each night they get to the next role. They are only told their current and past roles.

Human -> Soldier -> Seer -> Knot Expert
Human -> Wrathful -> Traitor -> Knot Expert
Human -> Insomniac -> Mason -> Human
Mason -> Human -> Traitor -> Mason
Insomniac -> Knot Expert -> Human -> Insomniac

Seer -> Apprentice -> Human -> Investigator
Guardian -> Wolfsbane -> Guardian -> Mercenary
Cop -> Witch -> Stalker -> Coroner
Psycho -> Cop -> Psycho -> Psychic
Warden -> Painter -> Detective ->

Wolf -> Disguised Wolf -> Brutal Wolf -> Espionage Wolf
Shaman Wolf -> Eldetic Wolf -> Disguised Wolf -> Brutal Wolf
Brutal Wolf -> Rascal Wolf -> Decoy Wolf -> Inspector Wolf
Dauber Wolf -> Brutal Wolf -> Shaman Wolf -> Disguised Wolf

Fool -> Amnesiac -> Maniac -> Amnesiac
Vigilante -> Sun God -> Murderer -> Vigilante

At N5, all roles (except the first set of roles, the greens, and the vigi) can choose one of their past roles to continue with for the whole game. The greens and vigi stick with their N4 role for the whole game.

Notes:
-If the Amnesiac decides to remember as someone, they use their role sequence from the start.
-If the Vigi kills anyone in any of his roles he loses one bullet (even if he kills twice while murderer, he only loses 1. He can also kill during the day and waste a bullet with SG). Has 4 bullets.
-The Painter and Dauber Wolf's painting over-rids Evolution Color Changes (Disguised, Masons). If both targets the same person, the one who was late over rids that color. The color stays for all the game as they can only use it once.
-If the ratio is, say, 4 wolves to 6 humans and it's the night where the 4th sequence becomes a traitor, wolves and Traitor win. If it's past that night, the 4th sequence wins with town.
-The Investigator and Inspector wolf gets a hint for ghe first role of the sequence, not current.

If somebody has a question, ask away in the topic.
Also
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EpdI-NlIIAw
Cop
Seer
Warden
Security
Insomniac
Lawyer
Bomb
Human
Human
Human
Human

Dauber Wolf
Espionage Wolf
Decoy Wolf
Townsbane Wolf

Oracle
Assassin
TWG: Playing With Fire

Gimmick: Every night, fires can start at the house of any certain individual, resulting in loss of specialized equipment so they cannot use their abilities for the next 2 days and nights.

Human x4
Watchdog
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Gunsmith
Fireman - Can put out fire at the home of any certain individual, so they can use their ability again
Warden
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Confrere Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Maniac
Arsonist


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Open)
Post by: Kowhai on March 07, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
TWG: Age of Mythology

Gimmick: The humans are divided into three ancient cultures of Greek, Egyptian and Norse. Each culture must work to complete an additional, secondary objective, in addition to the main objective of killing all the bad guys. If the humans win, only the cultures that have completed their special objective will be considered victorious. If a culture completes their special objective, it will be announced publicly, and the culture will gain access to a god power. If 50% or more of the living humans in a culture privately vote to activate the power within a single night, it will be activated that night. The wolves also have a special objective, which they can fulfil to gain a god power. However, this is not required to be fulfilled for them to win.

Note: Greek/Egyptian/Norse Humans are just told they’re human. Will also be told if their team has fulfilled their special objective, so that they can vote to use it.

Greek Human (4) - Has no special ability.
Knot Expert (4) - Will not die the first time they receive the most lynch votes.
Seer (5) - sees someone’s color each night
Oracle (5) - Each night, predicts who will be lynched the next day. Each day, predicts who will be killed/attacked by wolves the next night. If they guess correctly, will receive the color of the next living person below the person they predicted who died on the list below (not the sign-ups list)
Special objective: Seer and Oracle must together find 2 red/black roles.
God power: Seer can check 2 people in one night. If Seer is dead, then one accurate priest prophecy is revealed publicly.

Egyptian Human (4)
Egyptian Human (4)
Engineer (5) - Able to build one of each building throughout the course of a game
→ Sentry Gun - Can choose to place a Sentry Gun on a specific player at night. Anyone who visits the player will be killed.
→ Teleporter - One living player is chosen by the Engineer. If the player has an ability, they will perform it twice the following night. If no ability, the player's lynch vote counts twice.
Architect (5) - Once in the game, can construct a safe house for a player of their choice. This will protect that player and both of their neighbours in the list below (not the sign-ups list) from all attacks for the rest of the game. This loops around for the first and last roles on the list. People in the safe house will not be protected if they choose to visit someone that night. If the people protected by the Architect's safe house make up the majority of the remaining humans, they are no longer protected.
Special objective: At least 2 buildings from either the Architect or Engineer must be effective (have their effects used at some point in the game). In the case of the Teleporter, it must be used to provide an additional ability use.
God power: Engineer can place one additional building (if the Engineer dies, then a random Egyptian Human will be able to place the building, or the Architect if both of them are dead).

Norse Human (4)
Norse Human (4)
Cop (5) - Can shoot 3 players in the game, 1 per night, from Night 2 onwards. Will kill themselves if they shoot a power role (in this case, a human role that can contribute to their team’s special objective).
Mercenary (5) - can guard against conversions/Kronos
Special objective: Must kill at least 2 evil roles (Kronos/Servant/Wolf) with Cop/Mercenary
God power: One random player from the team will gain Psycho abilities (can kill anyone who visits them for one night), which they must use within the next 3 nights.

Demolition Wolf (5) - Can visit three players in the game (one a night); if the player has a building from either the Architect or Engineer, then the building will be permanently destroyed.
Brutal Wolf (4) - When lynched, will kill a player.
Wolf Shaman (5) - Each night can choose to see one player's colour.
Cowardly Wolf (4) - A Cowardly Wolf that is equivalent to a Refugee, but only has two vests instead of the usual four, and also sided for the Wolves so he can't win with anyone but with Wolves. If all other wolves die, his team loses, as he can't kill out of his cowardice.
Optional objective: Prevent any team from winning
God power: Can kill 2 people on a night of their choice

Kronos - Chooses one player in game to convert to be his Servant (colored black). This player will lose their original ability if they had one, work with and earn points for Kronos at a constant rate each night, based on how powerful their role is. The number of points that a role earns each night is listed next to the roles. If Kronos and his servant achieves 20 points, then Kronos beats all + wins.
    → Servant Protection: once in the game, Kronos can choose to redirect an attack against his servant to another player of choice.
→  If Kronos dies, then the Servant returns back to their team as a Human or a regular Wolf (Maniac will stay Maniac however)
→ If the Servant dies, then Kronos dies too.

Maniac (4) - When lynched, kills one player. Wins if they are lynched.

Architect
Norse Human
Demolition Wolf
Seer
Egyptian Human
Wolf Shaman
Engineer
Greek Human
Maniac
Oracle
Knot Expert
Kronos
Mercenary
Egyptian Human
Cowardly Wolf
Cop
Norse Human
Brutal Wolf
TWG: Outlast

Castaway- A regular castaway. No special roles or abilities.
Castaway
Castaway
Castaway
Idol Master- He is in possession of immunity idols and fake immunity idols.

Seer
Clue Master- He holds the clues to the location of the immunity idol, he can give them to anyone that he wishes.
Sneaky Castaway- Each night, chooses two targets, and receives the role of one of them.
Probst- Each night he gives someone immunity. This way, they can not be killed during the night.
Medic- Can medically evacuate one person from the game [they're out of the game, can't play].


Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Destruction Wolf- He has holds the Destruction Idol. If he is at Night 4, he can bring back a dead wolf. If he dies, the Idol is discarded from the game. This does not have to be used, if it isn't used it becomes a Fake Idol that he can give away.
Survivor Wolf- Each night he hunts someone to find out if they are a Survivor player or not.
Playing Survivor
Castaway
Sneaky Castaway
Alliance Leader
Alliance Member
Idol Finder

Alliance Leader- Their job is to vote together at every lynching.
If they successfully do, each night they can convert one person to their alliance.
Alliance Member- Member of the Alliance. No special abilities.

Executioner- Has 4 targets.
Idol Finder- Their goal is to be in possession of both the idols and stop them from haunting the game. (If they own both of the true idols, they can use how they please because they have won the game by this point- the game still continues).

Idols- So basically, the Idol Master owns 2 of them. I will then hide them in the topic (and tell him where they are) and they can be found in spoiler tags or URL hyperlinks to click certain words that lead you to an idol. Then, during the night someone can say, I use the idol I have, that way, any votes cast to lynch them will not count.

Fake Idols- Looks exactly like an idol but it has been directly given to someone by the Idol Master on purpose, meaning it is fake (they will not know it is fake). Pretty much there just to add a bit of amusement at cocky players.

Destruction Idol- There is only one in the game held by the Destruction Wolf. This has the power to revive one wolf ONLY ON NIGHT 4.
TWG: Kainu Mosir

Welcome to Kainu Mosir, a mysterious island off the coast of Japan and Russia's Far East. Just last year, wolves attacked the nearby Kainu Islands, but the peaceful Clairvoyant outsmarted everyone in the chaos. Now, a year later, the Clairvoyant has died and with it, a power struggle appeared. A mystic island appeared and with it, the legends of Kainu; Mosir, the Kainu Wolf, and the Sun Goddess Amaterasu. All have their own interests and a reason for what they do. Welcome to the island of fog and cliffs, legends and mystique.

Human - Humans have no special abilities.
Human
Human
Gentleman
- The Gentleman's lynch vote counts for 3.
Watchdog - The Watchdog can go in Watch Mode twice in the game. They will see everyone who visits them and have nighttime immunity.

Apprentice - The Apprentice can see the alignment of a person each night.
Coroner - The Coroner learns the colour of everyone who dies.
Guardian - The Guardian can guard a person and save them from death each night.
Mosir - Mosir, guardian of Kainu, can choose a person to bring down with him when he dies.
Psychic - The Psychic of Kainu Mosir can control who the wolves kill once in the game.

Wolf - The normal wolf has no special abilities.
Thick Wolf - The Thick Wolf appears as a Human to all investigative roles. If the Thick Wolf dies, it is revealed due to its thick fur.
Fluffy Wolf - The Fluffy Wolf can see who visits a person of their choice each night.
Kainu Wolf - The Kainu Wolf, enslaver of Mosir, can control what a non-wolf power role does once in the game.

Amaterasu - The Sun Goddess of Kainu can kill one person during the day twice in the game.
Maniac - The Maniac can kill one person if lynched. They will win if they are lynched.
Supplier - The Supplier can allow the Watchdog, Psychic, Kainu Wolf, and Amaterasu to use their abilities an extra time. They can supply a person twice, and win if they use at least one supply.
Secrets of the Boulevard
Human
Human
Human
Bomb
Watchdog
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Cop
Spy - Twice per game, can check a player to see who visits them and who they visit.
Psychic

Wolf Shaman
Brutal Wolf
Confrere Wolf
Mason

Student
Maniac
Arsonist
TWG - An Abnormal Evening Inside

Human
Human
Human
Disguised Wolf
Gentleman
Knot Expert


Seer
Guardian
Psychic

Abnormalist - Can kill twice per game, but can only kill on even days/nights. Knows when it is the Abnormal Period(SEE BELOW)
Wolfsbane

Brutal Wolf
Confrere Wolf
Psychic Wolf - After Day 1, once per game they can change the town killing's target.
Mason


Oracle
Supplier
Abnormal God - Once per game, can change the game to the Abnormal Period(SEE BELOW) Can kill once during the Abnormal Period.


Wolf Killing Order:
Disguised Wolf > Brutal Wolf > Confrere Wolf > Psychic Wolf

Abnormal Period Gimmick

The Abnormal God can once per game, change the game to the Abnormal Period. What is the Abnormal Period?

The Abnormal Period lasts ONE CYCLE.
The Abnormal Period makes a few changes to roles:
Seer > Confused Seer
Psychic > Confused Psychic - If Psychic uses their ability during the Abnormal Period, the wolves will kill randomly instead of their choice or the wolves's choice
Brutal Wolf > Wolf (So if Brutal Wolf is lynched during the Abnormal Period nobody will die with them)
Psychic Wolf > Confused Psychic Wolf - If Psychic Wolf uses their ability during the Abnormal Period, the town killing will kill randomly instead of their choice or the town killing's choice

Everyone will return to normal after the cycle of the Abnormal period is over.
Only the Abnormalist and Abnormal God knows when it is the Abnormal Period, but THEY DO NOT KNOW EACHOTHER.
TWG: Return to the Courtroom

In their perpetual run from the wolves, the humans found themselves back in the town of law seen so many years ago. They wanted the wolves in jail, and they were willing to risk a trial in order to do that. However, wolves who know they might go to jail become a bit... let's say anxious, and anxious wolves tend to crave... bloodshed. Will the town survive and deliver justice? Or will things take a turn for the worse?

Human - ordinary, participates in lynches
Human
Human
Human
Insomniac - has anxiety about the trial and can't sleep, knows who visits him at night
Disguised Wolf - a wolf, but is green

Chief Justice - each night, picks two people and learns if their colors match
Guardian - can protect someone each night from the wolves
Necromancer - can revive one dead player at night, they will be revived at daybreak
Bailiff - can shoot three players at night, turns into a human if he shoots a blue role
Stalker - each night finds out who a player visits

Wolf - just an ordinary wolf
Brutal Wolf - chooses someone to kill when lynched
Wolf Shaman - each night finds someone's color
Mason - thinks they're a human, but is red

Amnesiac - once per game can remember as a dead player, accepting their win condition
Maniac - if lynched, wins (alongside others) and kills a player
Murderer - once per game can kill 2 people at night, wins (beats others) if he makes it to the end

Voting will now start. Our first bid to be voted on is The Penitentiary. Remember that you vote by posting in the topic, if you vote No you must provide a valid reason, and if you vote Yes when someone else has voted no, you must address the points raised by the No-voter if they haven't already. Each bid will be voted on for two days, and a new bid will start voting on the second day, so that there will be two bids being voted on at any one time.
Good luck to all bidders.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 07, 2018, 01:56:20 PM
Uh, yeahhhhh


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Kowhai on March 07, 2018, 01:59:07 PM
I'll vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Atomic on March 07, 2018, 02:03:32 PM
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 07, 2018, 02:10:51 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Ataino on March 07, 2018, 02:23:37 PM
disguised wolf isn't in bold. I vote no it honestly took me quite some time to understand it lol. Yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Abu on March 07, 2018, 02:30:07 PM
Voting yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Abu on March 07, 2018, 02:30:53 PM
There are about 4-5 bids I think I will vote yes to. A lot use gimmicks that won't work.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Bandero on March 07, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 07, 2018, 04:36:16 PM
sweet carolineee
good times never seemed so good


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Faiz on March 08, 2018, 02:58:28 AM
I say yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: ZechAkari on March 08, 2018, 03:06:23 AM
Why Eee Ess


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Abu on March 08, 2018, 04:47:48 AM
So, the way this works, is Mixing Things Up going to be voted on today as well as The Penitentiary?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Kowhai on March 08, 2018, 04:48:54 AM
Correct


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Kirby on March 08, 2018, 01:18:53 PM
No because i want to be different GWchadThink
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed, voting) (Current Bid: The Penitentiary)
Post by: Kowhai on March 08, 2018, 01:46:24 PM
Mixing Things Up is now to be voted on. The Penitentiary's current score is 10-0
TWG: Mixing Things Up

I decided to change some roles a bit. Only roles with new names have been changed.

Human - Has no special ability.
Human
Mason - A Human who is seen as red by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Wrathful - A Human who is seen as guilty by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Researcher - Each night, learns the identity of someone who visited another player that night. Can see the same person twice.
Leader - Lynch vote counts for amount of town left divided by 3, rounded down.

Observer - Twice per game, can choose to see if someone is good (Town, Unbiased), or evil (Wolf, Biased). Otherwise, they can choose to see someone's colour.
Coroner - Each time someone dies, the Coroner sees what colour they are at the time of death.
Guardian Angel - Four times in the game, they can give someone an extra ability. They can give someone the ability to avoid death during the day once up to three times, or give someone the abiltity to avoid death during the night once. They can give abilities to the same people multiple times.
Distractor - Each night, can distract someone and prevent them from using their ability.
Cop - 2 times starting Night 2 they can shoot and kill another player. If they shoot another blue role, the Cop will also die.
Necroprentice - Once per game, they can revive someone. This is public. Unfortunately, they're just an Apprentice, so the revived role has limited capability. They cannot send PMs to other players or answer PMs sent to them. They can still PM the host, use actions, and post in the thread.

Brutaler Wolf - When they are lynched, they kill someone. While the Brutaler Wolf is alive, the Wolves can kill twice in one night once.
Confrere Wolf - Twice per game, can visit a player. If the player has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use it once. The original player will not lose any uses of their role.
Wolf Shaman - Each night, visits a player and learns their colour.
Tricky Wolf - Whenever they want, they can change the colour that the Coroner or Seer sees them as.

Inquisitor - Each night can choose to kill someone. If for whatever reason their kill does not go through (Guardian Angel, Distractor), then they will die. They will appear to have been killed by an Inquisitor, and their planned target will become the new Inquisitor. Wins if they make it to the end.
Choosy Amnesiac - Each night can change their role to that of a dead player. They will receive all attributes of that role, but they keep the ability to change their role.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Atomic on March 08, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
I vote no, I feel this game has a few flaws with some of the roles.

The Brutaler Wolf could seem kinda OP for the wolves. The Inquisitor role can be passed on to the targeted player, the Distractor is basically a Jock with a different name and also, the Choosy Amnesiac can easily be Town and then Wolf, meaning that the game would be heavily imbalanced from that point of view. I think that is all I have to say here.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Bandero on March 08, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
No, the brutaler wolf is too OP, and so is the choosy amnesiac.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Ataino on March 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
The choosy amnesiac can literally go from wolf to town and win the game
So he'll no mate xD
Also distract or is jock with a different name
Isn't researcher literally warden?
Necropentice can easily be cheated, the PMer can pm the revived person and say "in the topic in one of your posts say (X, wich is a number for chosen an option or can be just text, a hint in his talking, a way of talking,  etc) to respond to this PM"


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Abu on March 08, 2018, 02:33:26 PM
I vote no because this game is changing things for the sake of changing things, and yet all of the changes roles are unnecessary and make TWG difficult to play. They are either overpowered or downright confusing.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Nickito on March 08, 2018, 05:27:13 PM
I vote no, I feel this game has a few flaws with some of the roles.

The Brutaler Wolf could seem kinda OP for the wolves. The Inquisitor role can be passed on to the targeted player, the Distractor is basically a Jock with a different name and also, the Choosy Amnesiac can easily be Town and then Wolf, meaning that the game would be heavily imbalanced from that point of view. I think that is all I have to say here.
- (Brutaler Wolf) the new town roles balance this one out I think
- (Inquisitor) Yes that's the point
- (Distractor) Yes that's the point the Jock is a dumb name for the role
- (Amne) I sent in an old draft they shouldn't be able to change teams (i.e they stay Town or Wolf, whichever)
No, the brutaler wolf is too OP, and so is the choosy amnesiac.
- addressed above
The choosy amnesiac can literally go from wolf to town and win the game
So he'll no mate xD
Also distract or is jock with a different name
Isn't researcher literally warden?
Necropentice can easily be cheated, the PMer can pm the revived person and say "in the topic in one of your posts say (X, wich is a number for chosen an option or can be just text, a hint in his talking, a way of talking,  etc) to respond to this PM"
- already addressed first 2
- Researcher can only see one person so it's essentially a downgraded Warden, so it is green to accomodate
- that's answering a PM and still against the rules
I vote no because this game is changing things for the sake of changing things, and yet all of the changes roles are unnecessary and make TWG difficult to play. They are either overpowered or downright confusing.
- you just described Modern TWG. You're the one who wants to add difficulty by making role names harder to remember, you're not allowed to talk about TWG being difficult to play

okay I think I addressed everything, if someone still isn't satisfied I don't think there's anything I can do aside from give up


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Abu on March 08, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
You didn't address any of the concerns well. "That's the point" and "you aren't allowed to say that" are not very good in responding to the criticisms...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Nickito on March 08, 2018, 07:06:48 PM
I don't understand why stating the Inquisitor's function is criticism unless I'm missing something obvious


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 09, 2018, 05:29:53 AM
Wait may I ask why this hasn't been color coded yet?

Also, I'm actually debating on a Yes vote because many of the other points given by other people are actually crappy reasons tbh, besides the Amnesiac one, which he already changed. However, I just want to see a physical copy of the revised edition to be sure.



Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Nickito on March 09, 2018, 06:06:00 AM
Here
Mixing Things Up is now to be voted on. The Penitentiary's current score is 10-0
TWG: Mixing Things Up

I decided to change some roles a bit. Only roles with new names have been changed.

Human - Has no special ability.
Human
Mason - A Human who is seen as red by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Wrathful - A Human who is seen as guilty by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Researcher - Each night, learns the identity of someone who visited another player that night. Can see the same person twice.
Leader - Lynch vote counts for amount of town left divided by 3, rounded down.

Observer - Twice per game, can choose to see if someone is good (Town, Unbiased), or evil (Wolf, Biased). Otherwise, they can choose to see someone's colour.
Coroner - Each time someone dies, the Coroner sees what colour they are at the time of death.
Guardian Angel - Four times in the game, they can give someone an extra ability. They can give someone the ability to avoid death during the day once up to three times, or give someone the abiltity to avoid death during the night once. They can give abilities to the same people multiple times.
Distractor - Each night, can distract someone and prevent them from using their ability.
Cop - 2 times starting Night 2 they can shoot and kill another player. If they shoot another blue role, the Cop will also die.
Necroprentice - Once per game, they can revive someone. This is public. Unfortunately, they're just an Apprentice, so the revived role has limited capability. They cannot send PMs to other players or answer PMs sent to them. They can still PM the host, use actions, and post in the thread.

Brutaler Wolf - When they are lynched, they kill someone. While the Brutaler Wolf is alive, the Wolves can kill twice in one night once.
Confrere Wolf - Twice per game, can visit a player. If the player has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use it once. The original player will not lose any uses of their role.
Wolf Shaman - Each night, visits a player and learns their colour.
Tricky Wolf - Whenever they want, they can change the colour that the Coroner or Seer sees them as.

Inquisitor - Each night can choose to kill someone. If for whatever reason their kill does not go through (Guardian Angel, Distractor), then they will die. They will appear to have been killed by an Inquisitor, and their planned target will become the new Inquisitor. Wins if they make it to the end.
Choosy Amnesiac - Each night can change their role to that of a dead player. They will receive all attributes of that role, but they keep the ability to change their role. The Amnesiac cannot change teams meaning if they first remember as a Town member, they cannot become a Wolf and vice versa.
The other changes don't make sense or weren't specific enough


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 09, 2018, 06:08:28 AM
Okay the only other problem I have is that there could be potential confusion with the rolelist being entirely black (like i know my eyes don't really adjust to it too well)

So i was thinking you could maybe color code t just so it looks more organized, but I won't vote no for it

so voting Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Nickito on March 09, 2018, 08:41:17 AM
I'm not colour coding it on mobile
I would of course have it colored if we do play it
There are no surprises colour wise though
Also Ill vote yes on both


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Kirby on March 09, 2018, 09:30:20 AM
Human - Has no special ability.
Human
Mason - A Human who is seen as red by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Wrathful - A Human who is seen as guilty by the Observer. Thinks they're Human.
Researcher - Each night, learns the identity of someone who visited another player that night. Can see the same person twice.
Leader - Lynch vote counts for amount of town left divided by 3, rounded down.

Observer - Twice per game, can choose to see if someone is good (Town, Unbiased), or evil (Wolf, Biased). Otherwise, they can choose to see someone's colour.
Coroner - Each time someone dies, the Coroner sees what colour they are at the time of death.
Guardian Angel - Four times in the game, they can give someone an extra ability. They can give someone the ability to avoid death during the day once up to three times, or give someone the abiltity to avoid death during the night once. They can give abilities to the same people multiple times.
Distractor - Each night, can distract someone and prevent them from using their ability.
Cop - 2 times starting Night 2 they can shoot and kill another player. If they shoot another blue role, the Cop will also die.
Necroprentice - Once per game, they can revive someone. This is public. Unfortunately, they're just an Apprentice, so the revived role has limited capability. They cannot send PMs to other players or answer PMs sent to them. They can still PM the host, use actions, and post in the thread.

Brutaler Wolf - When they are lynched, they kill someone. While the Brutaler Wolf is alive, the Wolves can kill twice in one night once.
Confrere Wolf - Twice per game, can visit a player. If the player has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use it once. The original player will not lose any uses of their role.
Wolf Shaman - Each night, visits a player and learns their colour.
Tricky Wolf - Whenever they want, they can change the colour that the Coroner or Seer sees them as.

Inquisitor - Each night can choose to kill someone. If for whatever reason their kill does not go through (Guardian Angel, Distractor), then they will die. They will appear to have been killed by an Inquisitor, and their planned target will become the new Inquisitor. Wins if they make it to the end.
Choosy Amnesiac - Each night can change their role to that of a dead player. They will receive all attributes of that role, but they keep the ability to change their role. The Amnesiac cannot change teams meaning if they first remember as a Town member, they cannot become a Wolf and vice versa.
i don't undestand what choosy amnesiac yet, can you explain what you mean by attributes and ability?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Nickito on March 09, 2018, 09:32:41 AM
They can remember just like normal Amnesiacs infinite times as long as it's on the same team, and they never lose this ability


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Ataino on March 09, 2018, 03:44:32 PM
So basically if he picks a non town role after he became town he just does nothing in the night
Can be op tho..


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up)
Post by: Kowhai on March 09, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
The Penitentiary, bid by KitKatExtreme, has passed with a 100% yes rate. Congratulations!
Mixing Things Up has a current score of 2-4.
Wait For It is now to be voted on.
TWG: Wait For It

Twist: Deaths are delayed a cycle. The lynchee will be killed the night after they are lynched (ex. Leia is lynched Day 1, she dies after Night 2 ends). Their faction will be announced when they die (wolf or not wolf). The same goes for anyone dying at night - they will die at the end of the day, unaware they have been attacked until that time (ex. KitKatExtreme is wolfed Night 1, she will die after Day 1 ends, unaware she is dying until it happens). If the Maniac is lynched, the fact they are Maniac will be announced the next morning, and the person they decide to kill will die the next day. Brutal Wolf victims will die at the same time as the Brutal Wolf. Seer, Shaman and Insomniac results will still be given at normal times (unless people want these to be delayed too). Guardian actions will be delayed (ex. Leia is attacked Night 3, but the Guardian guards her. Leia will not die Day 3). Necromancer won’t be affected. Arsonist will only be affected when they decide to ignite - dousing will happen the night the action is given).

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Cop
Wolfsbane

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Arsonist
Amnesiac
Maniac


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kowhai on March 09, 2018, 04:04:09 PM
I'll vote yes on this bid, seems like an interesting concept that will affect strategy, and can't see anything wrong with it.
Will also vote yes on Nick's bid, since there really aren't any proper reasons for voting no.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Abu on March 09, 2018, 04:10:48 PM
Do we want 5 gimmick games in a row to be next...?

I vote no on this, because this game has only a subpar rolelist with no interesting roles and a gimmick that does not work with the rolelist or function well. Delaying deaths will not really require any extra strategy.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kowhai on March 09, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
Why are gimmick games so bad?
Also, there's no majority of gimmick bids in this pool in the sense of core gameplay changes, so they won't be all in a row.
Also, there are worse gimmick bids in this pool that I would vote No on, regardless.
Also it would affect strategy, the bleep are you talking about. There have been many times where a players death, or the fact of whether or not they're a wolf, has been used as evidence or in strategy. One person's lynch can implicate certain people and cause them to be seered in a way that wouldn't happe  if they didn't die immediately. Also, the Brutal Wolf will be majorly affected.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Bandero on March 09, 2018, 05:15:55 PM
I am voting yes, because it has a cool gimmick.

Having gimmicks make TWG more interesting.

Not every game has to have interesting new roles, and it would definitely affect strategy.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Abu on March 09, 2018, 05:48:18 PM
Why are gimmick games so bad?
Also, there's no majority of gimmick bids in this pool in the sense of core gameplay changes, so they won't be all in a row.
Also, there are worse gimmick bids in this pool that I would vote No on, regardless.
Also it would affect strategy, the bleep are you talking about. There have been many times where a players death, or the fact of whether or not they're a wolf, has been used as evidence or in strategy. One person's lynch can implicate certain people and cause them to be seered in a way that wouldn't happe  if they didn't die immediately. Also, the Brutal Wolf will be majorly affected.
If the town is sure of someone being a wolf, they get to find out one day later, and that's pretty much all. I can see the Brutal Wolf being more interesting here but that is practically all. And gimmicks are ruining core TWG gameplay because the game is always about gimmicks now, instead of sticking to a formula. I like traditional mafia better. This is just my preference, I am not attempting to ban gimmicks or force people to stop bidding with them.

Pretty much boils down to the fact that we have a total of 12 bids, and I already know that if the first 5-6 get voted in, the next won't because nobody wants that much of a big queue. So we should indeed be looking for the best of the best.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 09, 2018, 05:54:57 PM
*checks status*
*brings cake*
*tosses confetti*
*hugs all the Yes voters*
*leaves*


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kowhai on March 09, 2018, 05:56:48 PM
If the town is sure of someone being a wolf, they get to find out one day later, and that's pretty much all. I can see the Brutal Wolf being more interesting here but that is practically all. And gimmicks are ruining core TWG gameplay because the game is always about gimmicks now, instead of sticking to a formula. I like traditional mafia better. This is just my preference, I am not attempting to ban gimmicks or force people to stop bidding with them.

Pretty much boils down to the fact that we have a total of 12 bids, and I already know that if the first 5-6 get voted in, the next won't because nobody wants that much of a big queue. So we should indeed be looking for the best of the best.
1. If you want traditional mafia, you've got plenty of choice outside the forum, or if you want to play it with forumers, you could try starting a separate series (if people here actually want to play that kind of mafia, and you notify those people of its presence, it should succeed).

2. All legitimately good bids should have a chance to be played, the best bids will get to be played first anyway due to their higher ratios. I suspect that the next cycle will have less bids due to a large amount of the bids in this pool being bid before we even changed the system, on top of the bids created in the meantime. Obviously, bids which are just average or passable should be barred, but I don't think that being highly exclusive is the way to go, as it may discourage some people from bidding at all.

3. I expect it will have more of an effect in the later game, where time is often of the essence and evidence is needed asap. I do believe that there will be changes to strategy to accommodate for the gaps in people's knowledge.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Abu on March 09, 2018, 06:17:25 PM
I completely forgot we are sorting it by ratios. While I will vote on my own preferences still, I am more hopeful now that people will not end up voting the last few bids as no because "it seems a bit eh" when they voted yes for the first few ones because "sure why not". (note: exagération)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Faiz on March 09, 2018, 08:18:37 PM
I vote no. The gimmick is not really interesting nor does it effect the gaming strategy by a considerable margin.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kirby on March 10, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
I vote yes, i like the gimmick, wolf and town do seem both op but i guess it makes it balanced.
any other issue i should address to make my vote valid?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Atomic on March 10, 2018, 01:20:06 PM
I feel the roles are kinda boring, but there is no issue with the gimmick or the roles themselves, I vote yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
sure voting yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2018, 02:27:27 PM
I vote yes, i like the gimmick, wolf and town do seem both op but i guess it makes it balanced.
any other issue i should address to make my vote valid?
No, if I recall you have to address 2 points, which you did. Although if you did not vote for one bid yet, make sure to specify which one you are going for. KitKatExtreme would have to address some of the criticisms, though.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kirby on March 10, 2018, 02:36:04 PM
sorry didnt see new one
voting yes for it too


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Nickito on March 10, 2018, 02:43:31 PM
I'll say no because the gimmick sounds more frustrating than fun


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Mixing Things Up, Wait For It)
Post by: Kowhai on March 10, 2018, 03:37:31 PM
Mixing Things Up has been defeated with a 50% yes rate.
Wait For It has a current score of 5-3.
Operation: Evolution is now up for vote:
TWG: Operation: Evolution

Twist-: Each person has a sequence of roles shown in the role list below. Each night they get to the next role. They are only told their current and past roles.

Human -> Soldier -> Seer -> Knot Expert
Human -> Wrathful -> Traitor -> Knot Expert
Human -> Insomniac -> Mason -> Human
Mason -> Human -> Traitor -> Mason
Insomniac -> Knot Expert -> Human -> Insomniac

Seer -> Apprentice -> Human -> Investigator
Guardian -> Wolfsbane -> Guardian -> Mercenary
Cop -> Witch -> Stalker -> Coroner
Psycho -> Cop -> Psycho -> Psychic
Warden -> Painter -> Detective ->

Wolf -> Disguised Wolf -> Brutal Wolf -> Espionage Wolf
Shaman Wolf -> Eldetic Wolf -> Disguised Wolf -> Brutal Wolf
Brutal Wolf -> Rascal Wolf -> Decoy Wolf -> Inspector Wolf
Dauber Wolf -> Brutal Wolf -> Shaman Wolf -> Disguised Wolf

Fool -> Amnesiac -> Maniac -> Amnesiac
Vigilante -> Sun God -> Murderer -> Vigilante

At N5, all roles (except the first set of roles, the greens, and the vigi) can choose one of their past roles to continue with for the whole game. The greens and vigi stick with their N4 role for the whole game.

Notes:
-If the Amnesiac decides to remember as someone, they use their role sequence from the start.
-If the Vigi kills anyone in any of his roles he loses one bullet (even if he kills twice while murderer, he only loses 1. He can also kill during the day and waste a bullet with SG). Has 4 bullets.
-The Painter and Dauber Wolf's painting over-rids Evolution Color Changes (Disguised, Masons). If both targets the same person, the one who was late over rids that color. The color stays for all the game as they can only use it once.
-If the ratio is, say, 4 wolves to 6 humans and it's the night where the 4th sequence becomes a traitor, wolves and Traitor win. If it's past that night, the 4th sequence wins with town.
-The Investigator and Inspector wolf gets a hint for ghe first role of the sequence, not current.

If somebody has a question, ask away in the topic.
Also
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EpdI-NlIIAw


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Kowhai on March 10, 2018, 03:41:31 PM
I'll say no because the gimmick sounds more frustrating than fun
It's definitely a hindrance, to both teams to some extent, but I wouldn't say that makes it unfun, more that it requires creativity and alternative strategies, which is really what good gimmicks do in the end.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
Voting no
the vigilante thing seems really OP


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Ataino on March 10, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
How about instead he has one kill for each phase, ans then on N4+ they just have to survive


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Atomic on March 10, 2018, 03:58:59 PM
Voting yes, I have checked the bid in PM's and I find no issues, while the Vigilante stuff has the risk of being OP, I don't think it's too much of a risk to make the game imbalanced.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2018, 04:51:23 PM
I think that the bidder should redo this because the evolution gimmick is interesting to me, but the roles that were selected as an evolution were not the best and either completely underpowered, or overpowered. As well, the "choose a role at N5" aspect will practically never be used.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Abu on March 10, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
Voting no*.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 10, 2018, 06:09:53 PM
Also voting No because I don't think the Traitor thing would work out too well
Don't traitors know the wolves once they become a wolf?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Bandero on March 10, 2018, 07:35:27 PM
Voting no.

It's a great concept I'd love to see played, I just think the different roles might be OP.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Faiz on March 11, 2018, 02:52:13 AM
Voting no, the vigi should not have 4 bullets


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Ataino on March 11, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Voting no, the vigi should not have 4 bullets
He doesn't
Also voting No because I don't think the Traitor thing would work out too well
Don't traitors know the wolves once they become a wolf?
Check twg hq m8

Well I mean, I sent this to t people and only 1 answered


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Ataino on March 11, 2018, 03:59:59 AM
Wait wtf did I really write 4 that was unintentional I meant 3
I made all of this stuff on mobile btw


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Kirby on March 11, 2018, 10:18:59 AM
i apologize in not responding (please people don't pm me role list for opinions i probably won't answer)
Warden -> Painter -> Detective ->
whats the last one
replace traitor with a human/mason and then i'll vote yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Ataino on March 11, 2018, 11:51:05 AM
How about change traitor with Gentleman, Detective for Gossip and the last shift for warden starter was supposed to be jock


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Wait For It, Operation: Evolution)
Post by: Kowhai on March 11, 2018, 01:48:51 PM
Wait For It, bid by Hamilton, has passed with a 62.5% yes rate. Congratulations!
Operation: Evolution's current score is 1-4.
One Of These Nights is now to be voted on.
Cop
Seer
Warden
Security
Insomniac
Lawyer
Bomb
Human
Human
Human
Human

Dauber Wolf
Espionage Wolf
Decoy Wolf
Townsbane Wolf

Oracle
Assassin


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 11, 2018, 01:55:00 PM
I don't need to explain my vote


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Kowhai on March 11, 2018, 01:55:44 PM
You didn't even state your vote though, you do need to do that


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 11, 2018, 01:56:33 PM
no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 11, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
as in my vote is no


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Ataino on March 11, 2018, 01:59:07 PM
BTW I'm still voting yes for my own bid and no for this one

So.. nobody is gonna say why some roles are UP and some are OP.. great help to get me to make better bids guys!


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Bandero on March 11, 2018, 02:03:19 PM
No, the rolelist is a disorganized mess, and the roles don't work well together. The wolves are too OP


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Cosmic on March 11, 2018, 02:09:01 PM
No, Banderi summed up my thoughts well.

Oh and thanks for voting in my game guys, looking forward to finally hosting again.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Atomic on March 11, 2018, 02:51:30 PM
No, wolves are OP (specifically a Dauber and Decoy combination)


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Ataino on March 11, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
Can somebody specify why thry'ré voting no in my game? I czn't make changes without feedback y know


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Abu on March 11, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
I vote no because the wolves are very overpowered, while the humans are underpowered.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Bandero on March 11, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Also, the rolelist is in an incorrect format.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 11, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
yeah if the host doesn't even know how to organize a simple rolelist
they prolly aren't qualified to be hosting as they will prolly not be able to handle the PMs and night actions and all


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Nickito on March 12, 2018, 01:11:47 PM
aw man my game didn't make it in
still salty that it was "too confusing" when this current game has like 30 changes to the traditional format but whatever


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights)
Post by: Kowhai on March 12, 2018, 01:28:39 PM
Operation: Evolution failed to pass with a 33% yes rate.
One Of These Nights has a current score of 0-7.
Playing With Fire is now up for vote.
TWG: Playing With Fire

Gimmick: Every night, fires can start at the house of any certain individual, resulting in loss of specialized equipment so they cannot use their abilities for the next 2 days and nights.

Human x4
Watchdog
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Guardian
Gunsmith
Fireman - Can put out fire at the home of any certain individual, so they can use their ability again
Warden
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Confrere Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Maniac
Arsonist


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Nickito on March 12, 2018, 01:30:16 PM
so... fires are random?
People can just randomly lose their power?
No


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Atomic on March 12, 2018, 01:30:59 PM
No, because it is luck based and also the power loss lasts too long should the fire not be extinguished.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Bandero on March 12, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
No, luck based elements aren't fair.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Abu on March 12, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
I think that the fires make this a very interesting game, on the contrary. While random at least they are not biased towards one side. Voting yes.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Ataino on March 12, 2018, 01:51:57 PM
So..
Who wanna help me make a better evolution bid this tile rather than just saying too op too up and actually stating what is op and up?


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Abu on March 12, 2018, 01:57:10 PM
So..
Who wanna help me make a better evolution bid this tile rather than just saying too op too up and actually stating what is op and up?
People did. They said the Vigilante is.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Ataino on March 12, 2018, 02:04:30 PM
In wich way
The vigilante is'too op is way too vague
I also said it''s 3 not 4 it was a typo


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Kirby on March 13, 2018, 05:29:03 AM
vigi seemed balanced imo
and no because the gimmick is pure luck


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire)
Post by: Kowhai on March 13, 2018, 01:58:56 PM
One Of These Nights has failed to pass with a 0% yes rate.
Playing With Fire's current score is 1-4.
Age of Mythology is now up for vote:
TWG: Age of Mythology

Gimmick: The humans are divided into three ancient cultures of Greek, Egyptian and Norse. Each culture must work to complete an additional, secondary objective, in addition to the main objective of killing all the bad guys. If the humans win, only the cultures that have completed their special objective will be considered victorious. If a culture completes their special objective, it will be announced publicly, and the culture will gain access to a god power. If 50% or more of the living humans in a culture privately vote to activate the power within a single night, it will be activated that night. The wolves also have a special objective, which they can fulfil to gain a god power. However, this is not required to be fulfilled for them to win.

Note: Greek/Egyptian/Norse Humans are just told they’re human. Will also be told if their team has fulfilled their special objective, so that they can vote to use it.

Greek Human (4) - Has no special ability.
Knot Expert (4) - Will not die the first time they receive the most lynch votes.
Seer (5) - sees someone’s color each night
Oracle (5) - Each night, predicts who will be lynched the next day. Each day, predicts who will be killed/attacked by wolves the next night. If they guess correctly, will receive the color of the next living person below the person they predicted who died on the list below (not the sign-ups list)
Special objective: Seer and Oracle must together find 2 red/black roles.
God power: Seer can check 2 people in one night. If Seer is dead, then one accurate priest prophecy is revealed publicly.

Egyptian Human (4)
Egyptian Human (4)
Engineer (5) - Able to build one of each building throughout the course of a game
→ Sentry Gun - Can choose to place a Sentry Gun on a specific player at night. Anyone who visits the player will be killed.
→ Teleporter - One living player is chosen by the Engineer. If the player has an ability, they will perform it twice the following night. If no ability, the player's lynch vote counts twice.
Architect (5) - Once in the game, can construct a safe house for a player of their choice. This will protect that player and both of their neighbours in the list below (not the sign-ups list) from all attacks for the rest of the game. This loops around for the first and last roles on the list. People in the safe house will not be protected if they choose to visit someone that night. If the people protected by the Architect's safe house make up the majority of the remaining humans, they are no longer protected.
Special objective: At least 2 buildings from either the Architect or Engineer must be effective (have their effects used at some point in the game). In the case of the Teleporter, it must be used to provide an additional ability use.
God power: Engineer can place one additional building (if the Engineer dies, then a random Egyptian Human will be able to place the building, or the Architect if both of them are dead).

Norse Human (4)
Norse Human (4)
Cop (5) - Can shoot 3 players in the game, 1 per night, from Night 2 onwards. Will kill themselves if they shoot a power role (in this case, a human role that can contribute to their team’s special objective).
Mercenary (5) - can guard against conversions/Kronos
Special objective: Must kill at least 2 evil roles (Kronos/Servant/Wolf) with Cop/Mercenary
God power: One random player from the team will gain Psycho abilities (can kill anyone who visits them for one night), which they must use within the next 3 nights.

Demolition Wolf (5) - Can visit three players in the game (one a night); if the player has a building from either the Architect or Engineer, then the building will be permanently destroyed.
Brutal Wolf (4) - When lynched, will kill a player.
Wolf Shaman (5) - Each night can choose to see one player's colour.
Cowardly Wolf (4) - A Cowardly Wolf that is equivalent to a Refugee, but only has two vests instead of the usual four, and also sided for the Wolves so he can't win with anyone but with Wolves. If all other wolves die, his team loses, as he can't kill out of his cowardice.
Optional objective: Prevent any team from winning
God power: Can kill 2 people on a night of their choice

Kronos - Chooses one player in game to convert to be his Servant (colored black). This player will lose their original ability if they had one, work with and earn points for Kronos at a constant rate each night, based on how powerful their role is. The number of points that a role earns each night is listed next to the roles. If Kronos and his servant achieves 20 points, then Kronos beats all + wins.
    → Servant Protection: once in the game, Kronos can choose to redirect an attack against his servant to another player of choice.
→  If Kronos dies, then the Servant returns back to their team as a Human or a regular Wolf (Maniac will stay Maniac however)
→ If the Servant dies, then Kronos dies too.

Maniac (4) - When lynched, kills one player. Wins if they are lynched.

Architect
Norse Human
Demolition Wolf
Seer
Egyptian Human
Wolf Shaman
Engineer
Greek Human
Maniac
Oracle
Knot Expert
Kronos
Mercenary
Egyptian Human
Cowardly Wolf
Cop
Norse Human
Brutal Wolf


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: Kirby on March 13, 2018, 02:05:13 PM
THE NOSTALGIA


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: Kirby on March 13, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
kronos seems op tbh


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: -PRoyale- on March 13, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
Yes


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: Kirby on March 13, 2018, 02:19:15 PM
kronos seems op tbh
actually, after rereading it looks a little UP
basically kronos win if we reach n6 as long as both he AND the servant are alive at n5/6
and it's not always that the game lasts that long...


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: Bandero on March 13, 2018, 02:24:21 PM
Yes.

This is a wildly different gimmick, but it's something that I think would be fun to play.

Even though Kronos is still a bit UP, independent roles are supposed to be hard to win as, and I think it will balance out.


Title: Re: Bidding Topic (Current Bids: Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology)
Post by: Kirby on March 13, 2018, 02:25:08 PM
Kronos needs to be dead for humans to win tho...
i'll vote yes.


Title: Re: Biddi