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Title: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Faiz on July 10, 2017, 04:41:07 PM
Greetings everyone, and welcome to TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction!


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 10, 2017, 04:44:01 PM
I would also remind you that the rule of making one non-lynch post every day-night cycle is applicable this time as well.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 10, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
FIRST


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 10, 2017, 05:39:47 PM
I claim something

I'm gonna do really bad at this one cuz I suck at TWG lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 10, 2017, 07:04:33 PM
FRICKIN HUMAN AGAIN

ARE YOU EVEN KIDDING ME


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 10, 2017, 07:06:05 PM
I don't wanna die so~


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 10, 2017, 09:52:04 PM
Posted not modkilled


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Ducky Momo on July 10, 2017, 11:49:18 PM
Human here


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 12:19:31 AM
Human here
Yea sure.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 11, 2017, 12:19:33 AM
Post


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 12:21:44 AM
Is this your revenge for making you mason last game?
Got human btw


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 01:44:54 AM
Is this your revenge for making you mason last game?
Got human btw
blame random dot org


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Leia on July 11, 2017, 01:46:48 AM
Wait question night 1 doesn't count in the day night cycle right


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 01:54:59 AM
No, night 1 does not count. You all have to make a post till day 2


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Zuki-Chan on July 11, 2017, 02:06:47 AM
post lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 11, 2017, 02:18:02 AM
No, it doesn't.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 02:19:50 AM
I am bord.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 03:26:53 AM
blame random dot org
BUTANOL INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED I AM HUMAN
;ppppppppppp
Wait question night 1 doesn't count in the day night cycle right
don't think so


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 03:36:29 AM
I didn't. I just said to blame random dot org for every role you've gotten.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 04:24:25 AM
No PM yet?!

Green 3 reporting in



Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 04:26:45 AM
I didn't. I just said to blame random dot org for every role you've gotten.
the ;ppppppppppppppppppp was supposed to mean I was joking


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: memes on July 11, 2017, 04:41:54 AM
I wonder how this is gonna play out.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: memes on July 11, 2017, 05:07:27 AM
Looks like we only got 3 human claims. There is only 1 human who hasnt claimed yet, and we still have the insomniac, which is a town population role after all. It's best if the insomniac doesnt die early.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 11, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
Such a good way to welcome me after 2 not played TWG games
HUMAN ;-;


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 05:27:26 AM
The next victim is ......


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 11, 2017, 05:28:19 AM
YOU


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 05:32:37 AM
The next victim is ......
butanol for making me human


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 05:35:38 AM
butanol for making me human
that's just a claim. I believe none. Unless he/she dies.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 06:00:29 AM
I cannot die, Stormbreaker.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 06:02:17 AM
but wheatley killed you last game


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 06:02:46 AM
I cannot die, Stormbreaker.
I know you can't. Besides, you're hosting this season.
Talking for deaths, I was responding to Zero. I mean only if he dies, in the game, I can learn what he was.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 06:05:25 AM
that's just a claim. I believe none. Unless he/she dies.
even if they were vigi when they claimed human ;p
(tin last game)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 06:10:42 AM
Whatever.
/me takes out an AK-47.
The wolves are going to say hello to my little friend each time we lynch them.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 06:20:46 AM
even if they were vigi when they claimed human ;p
(tin last game)
Then you're a vigilante.. no you aren't.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 11, 2017, 06:46:51 AM
It's only night 1 and I don't think we're going anywhere with this conversation


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 06:53:17 AM
of course i'm the vigi
it's not like it's not in the role list ;pppppppppp


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 06:55:59 AM
I already know many information so we win


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 11, 2017, 06:56:53 AM
Yeah, so you the wolves win.. bcuz if you're human or town there's nothing to know right now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 11, 2017, 06:58:52 AM
Yeah, so you the wolves win.. bcuz if you're human or town there's nothing to know right now

No. No, how can you be so sure? I am asking and I am learning. You did wrong for me in the previous season, I hope you won't repeat the same mistake.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 11, 2017, 07:16:56 AM
You can't guess all the wolves based on speech patterns and I don't mean to be rude but maybe your acting a bit um egotistical I know I sound rude but you can't really gain much info from simply asking around in the topic you could identify speech patterns but at this point they wouldn't tell you much and nobody knows that much information especially on Night 1
sorry


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
You can't guess all the wolves based on speech patterns and I don't mean to be rude but maybe your acting a bit um egotistical I know I sound rude but you can't really gain much info from simply asking around in the topic you could identify speech patterns but at this point they wouldn't tell you much and nobody knows that much information especially on Night 1
sorry
Speech patterns could be very important. Take it for example, a Seer is being voted up. The town wants to know the seer's role. The seer would normally calmly and slowly type and claim their role.
Now, say it was a wolf that was to claim Seer. If they are voted up, obviously, they would panic. They would type really fast and make typos.
Ex. I;m a seer! DPojn't lynch me.
As you can see, the person in this example was clearly panicking. A normal person who type slower, and as such, not make as many typos. Although it might be exaggerated in this example, speech patterns can be very important in TWG.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 11, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Yes but not Night 1 where there's zero leads nothing to go of off


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 07:38:02 AM
Yes but not Night 1 where there's zero leads nothing to go of off
I believe you skipped the point. It did not have to do with why they had claimed that person is a wolf, but how they claim their role.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 07:38:19 AM
I believe you skipped the point. It did not have to do with why they had claimed that person is a wolf, but how they claim their role.
Like, the specific wording.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 11, 2017, 07:39:22 AM
Sure? But we shouldn't use that as wholehearted proof there a wolf or such we should wait for a seer or another role that can give us leads to tell us


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 11, 2017, 07:41:13 AM
Yeah^ Night 1 There isn't any claims like what you said Dom. Just talking while you're not even suspected, you won't panick or anything. Blue roles can also panic, don't forget.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 11, 2017, 08:07:27 AM
I'm just gonna claim human and go....

In b4 massive lynch for me cuz everyone already claimed human


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 08:24:25 AM
I think I'm not gonna be a Green player. I don't think I've recieved a PM. something wrong?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 11, 2017, 08:38:48 AM
DonutsILike is already the best player in the game and it's just Night 1.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 08:41:01 AM
Can I get the role message again? It didn't get to me, I don't have 13 messages 1 are new.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 11, 2017, 08:43:01 AM
You'll have to wait for Butanol to get online.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 08:44:35 AM
oh..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 09:06:11 AM
The town woke up to find Arme Thaumaturgy brutally and callously mauled.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 11, 2017, 09:34:38 AM
I wouldn't have revealed that. Now wolves know they don't have to worry about a Guardian any more.

Seer, don't reveal.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 11, 2017, 09:40:44 AM
First and last warning, Arme Thaumaturgy. If you post in the game topic again you;d be gamebanned from TWG LXXXVI


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 09:56:59 AM
So...
there are 5 human claims
there are 4 humans and a mason... so I'm guessing evil roles are still to claim...


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 10:23:28 AM
Lynch nobody right now. I'm still waiting for a sixth human claim.

Character's thoughts as of now
How is it that I , who would've survived if I were the one attacked, don't know any of the wolves? Oh, that's right, they change eye colors during transformation. They're masters of stealth, too. It's a guessing game, here, I can't use the sword right now, there is no safe guess. But I can't reveal myself, that'll lead to more suspicion, seeing that I'm a late guest.

Dar walks around, thinking. What can he possibly do to identify the wolves? He will have to wait for the next human claim, it's no problem if he is to be attacked, the others will find out, he's just the ordinary for right now.  The mayor gets suspicious about the guests, he's only confirmed some to be human, for now. No one really knows.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 11:14:47 AM
Seer, if you have found anything, speak up.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 11, 2017, 11:19:09 AM
Or don't...since the wolves can kill you.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Leia on July 11, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
If I was Seer I'd probably wait a day or two to gain more seer results, seeing as the wolves are pretty far from a win at the moment


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 11:29:13 AM
Do seer gain the result the night they die?
And can they share it?
I'm asking because it is host dependent


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 11, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
Do seer gain the result the night they die?
And can they share it?
I'm asking because it is host dependent
They do, normally


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 11, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
No, there isn't a "normally", each host do whatever they want with that


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 11, 2017, 01:13:03 PM
Just saying, I don't think we should random lynch


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 03:41:13 PM
Either some humans haven't claimed or wolves decided to fake blue roles rather than claiming human


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 11, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
I'm a bit scared now. Yet, I don't know who to lynch as of late.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 11, 2017, 07:06:10 PM
Dar knows that he would've survived the first attack.. He packed some armor and it would've been torn apart, then the wolves supposedly would've gotten tired. He is still under close watch because he, too, was one of the later guests. The guests, some of them are wolves, have been a little late on schedule, some of them claiming to have evaded wolf attacks, the others just said the airport was a little off. Many suspect that Dar is the leader of the pack, though he doesn't claim that. Many have been preparing for the second wolf attack.. but little do they know it'll be when they are asleep. The wolves are smart that way..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kirby on July 11, 2017, 11:17:32 PM
Say is ending in 10 hours
Any idea on who to lynch?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 12, 2017, 03:25:55 AM
Ravine?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Leia on July 12, 2017, 03:35:18 AM
Butanol do you randomize the lynch or do you just count it as not lynching


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 06:40:04 AM
Hang on, I think I have a lead, give me a second.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 06:53:13 AM
Wait no, sorry. I've figured out some information, but not enough to make a clear accusation. Yet.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 06:59:45 AM
In any case, lynch Symphony for now. Hasn't claimed human as far as I know, and if he's blue it will be nice to know.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 07:18:14 AM
Okay, I have a lead for real now.
I'm priest. That means I got two prophecies last night, one true, one false. One of them, "Someone has the same role that they had in the last game", has been proven to be true. This, however, means the other, "The people with the smallest names are green roles", is false. They are not green roles. Those people with the smallest names happen to be Tin and dar, with 3 characters each in their names. So, I asked both of them what their roles were. Tin just responded, saying he was human. Human is a green role, which means, barring the small possibility that he is Mason, Tin is lying.
Lynch Tin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 12, 2017, 07:20:01 AM
Won't you be killed tonight though?
Our guardian is probably dead and the wolves don't want someone giving us prophecies

Lynch Tin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 07:23:31 AM
Catching a wolf is more important than having 2 investigative roles. If I'm really needed, there's always a Necromancer.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 12, 2017, 07:25:53 AM
Lynch dar or Tin?
k ill lynch Tin

WAIT I JUST REALISED SOMETHING

"not green roles"
don't forget about blue roles..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 12, 2017, 07:26:44 AM
oh wait Tin claimed human
Mason?
There's about 1/5 chance he was mason, but more chance he didn't trust Wheatley.. hmm..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 07:27:53 AM
I have never heard of someone fake claiming human out of mistrust, probably because it's a bad idea.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 12, 2017, 07:32:49 AM
mmm
not lynching rn


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 07:37:18 AM
Thanks for giving him an alibi, Ataino.

For the record, Tin claimed Wolfsbane, and I find it odd that he decided to message his role to me rather than state it openly, considering the nature of Wolfsbane. Seems to me like he's trying to avoid being counter-claimed. But, I digress. No one lynch anyone until we have waited a suitable amount of time for counter-claims.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 12, 2017, 07:41:56 AM
Sorry if I avoid losing a blue role


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
Sorry if I avoid losing a blue role
If he is a legit blue role, he would've revised his claim on his own. All you did was make the situation more unclear.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 12, 2017, 08:19:28 AM
Sorry but I would agree with Wheat...

hey I want to eat some wheat


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 12, 2017, 08:29:51 AM
Tin's claims seems suspicious, but until we get a cc, it's not worth losing 3 blue roles within the span of 2 nights.

Lynch dar for now.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Cosmic on July 12, 2017, 08:33:25 AM
I'm undecided on who to lynch for now, Wheatley makes a good point though.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 12, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Lynch dar


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 12, 2017, 08:34:43 AM
actually change to Tin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 08:38:34 AM
Lynch dar cuz I don't want to lose a lot of blue roles


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 12, 2017, 08:42:23 AM
Lynching dar.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 12, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
4 for dar
3 for Tin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
"I'm a wolfsbane, who else would pack a bunch of armor? I accepted the risk of giving it out, and I also have no neckarmor, which gives me no help. Someone told me that the leader of the wolf pack is not here."

"Of course it'll get all broken once the wolves finally dismantle it, but then they'll get tired and give up!"
"You don't wanna lose the one who also wants to get all the other wolves, do you? I thought not."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
well then that means either Tin or dar is lying about being a wolfsbane


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 09:37:02 AM
"I'll make sure that Tin does not run."
"I must know a lot about my role to be that way, but someone's been that way too, and maybe got converted some time after!"

Lynch Tin!

"It's highly unlikely that someone remembers their human role very well a month after conversion."

"Now that we're both equal.. we may both serve the punishment together.. I'll hang on to the rope and see what you are. My armor's not as rusty as you think."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 12, 2017, 09:40:17 AM
Ravine Roth - Ravin Roth
Lyka - dar
DJ Roomba - Tin
Zero - Zero
Wheatley - dar
Stormbreaker - Stormbreaker
Leia - Leia
Symphony - Symphony
Ataino - Ataino
Penguin022 - dar
Tin - dar
DonutsILike - DonutsILike
dar - Tin
Punny Toasty - dar
Mayor Kiefer - Mayor Kiefer
Lenny - Tin
SenpaiViolet - SenpaiViolet

Okay, it's a tie.

Ravine Roth, Mayor Kiefer, Lenny, and DonutsILike need to make a non-lynch post.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 09:45:07 AM
If lynched, put message "I can't hold on to the rope any longer... Get me off of this... It's too good to waste a swordsman against wolves.. Someone.. pick up... the sword....."
V
Last thoughts "it can't be known whether or not I am a wolf.. the armor can't be dismantled that easily."





Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Leia on July 12, 2017, 09:56:23 AM
I am so confused


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Leia on July 12, 2017, 09:59:05 AM
Dar knows that he would've survived the first attack.. He packed some armor and it would've been torn apart, then the wolves supposedly would've gotten tired. He is still under close watch because he, too, was one of the later guests. The guests, some of them are wolves, have been a little late on schedule, some of them claiming to have evaded wolf attacks, the others just said the airport was a little off. Many suspect that Dar is the leader of the pack, though he doesn't claim that. Many have been preparing for the second wolf attack.. but little do they know it'll be when they are asleep. The wolves are smart that way..
How in the world did I miss this hardcore breadcrumbing

Lynch Tin

*winces in anticipation of results*


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
"It's a little uncomfortable sleeping with the armor on, but knowing the wolves will probably breach every locked door, I will be safe."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
Lynch Tin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Ataino on July 12, 2017, 10:26:01 AM
lynch Tinny can


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Saburo on July 12, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Idk if I've done this already lynch tin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 12, 2017, 10:34:09 AM
I think Tin is bad



Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 12, 2017, 10:34:58 AM
Lynch dar


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 1)
Post by: Faiz on July 12, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
ok tin is lynched, he was a wolf, those 3 people need to make a post, lenny made one.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 12, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Phew.

dar is now innocent.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 11:30:25 AM
Woot w00t


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 11:40:53 AM
"Some people still think I'm the leader of the pack. It's no use kicking them out, though. The mayor can't trust me."

"I think they might be wolves.. but I can't be sure. We'll have to see."

"Hopefully none of the wolves found adrenaline."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 12, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Sorry for being inactive. Who should I lynch?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 11:46:47 AM
Sorry for being inactive. Who should I lynch?

Its the night


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 12, 2017, 11:48:54 AM
Its the night
Who was lynched?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Tin, the guy who pretended to be a wolfsbane but was a wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 12, 2017, 11:53:20 AM
Let's see who's gonna die?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: dar on July 12, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
Definitely not me, The wolves will be tired once they dismantle my armor.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 12, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
Hopefully not me  ;D


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 12, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
I was dangerous for them last time I played because I randomly found the wolves. They may be gonna kill me


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Kirby on July 12, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
Would be funny if arme lied about his role and guardian still alive


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 04:12:20 PM
Yay
Everyone should probably PM me and dar their roles, since we're both confirmed blue roles. I'm probably going to die tonight, so I'll be trying my best to get the most out of this night.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
Well, I guess there is a chance that the wolves will kill someone else just to be unpredictable. Wolves can be strangely contrary sometimes.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 12, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
tfw you try to feel like you died on purpose to justify getting caught


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Kowhai on July 12, 2017, 09:01:28 PM
Good thing there's a second investigative role, plus a confirmed wolfsbane who can report their findings anonymously.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 13, 2017, 01:41:47 AM
Night speaks, be quiet


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Kirby on July 13, 2017, 04:35:26 AM
why
Also, in case you are wondering, I didn't lynch before because I was at prom
people who are in the FB chat can confirm.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 13, 2017, 05:03:09 AM
I confirm of what Zero said.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: dar on July 13, 2017, 05:33:41 AM
Confir- wait what I wasn't in the FB chat.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: memes on July 13, 2017, 06:22:06 AM
sorry for not being on nowadays i was busy


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Faiz on July 13, 2017, 09:12:06 AM
Wheatley was killed by wolves. Ravine Roth and Mayor Kiefer have been modkilled.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 13, 2017, 09:13:45 AM
dude
first one is a warning not a modkill
anyways well that was quite obvious lol.
any leads Wheatt?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 13, 2017, 09:22:44 AM
It was sort of obvious that would happen :(

we need to step our game up humans!


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Faiz on July 13, 2017, 09:24:28 AM
dude
first one is a warning not a modkill
anyways well that was quite obvious lol.
any leads Wheatt?
There have been enough games for warnings I believe


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Zuki-Chan on July 13, 2017, 09:26:10 AM
Well.. I should have got a warning
Ugh....


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: dar on July 13, 2017, 09:46:58 AM
that was quick. Any lead?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Kirby on July 13, 2017, 10:02:38 AM
that was quick. Any lead?
here some lead:
(http://www.boliden.com/globalassets/operations/products/lead/prod_pb.jpg/SmallImage)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 2)
Post by: Ducky Momo on July 13, 2017, 10:52:10 AM
Wheatley was killed by wolves. Ravine Roth and Mayor Kiefer have been modkilled.
Why was I modkilled?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Faiz on July 13, 2017, 11:03:02 AM
For failing to make a post in the topic yet.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 13, 2017, 11:19:41 AM
Wheatley, you have 1 last post. What were the 2 prophecies?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 13, 2017, 01:07:11 PM
Wheatley, you have 1 last post. What were the 2 prophecies?
Prophecies.. what are you talkin about?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 13, 2017, 01:19:53 PM
Prophecies.. what are you talkin about?

Wheatley was the priest

he gives prophecies


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 13, 2017, 01:27:26 PM
Wheatley was the priest

he gives prophecies
Oh!


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 13, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
It was pretty pointless to kill someone who has useless powers lmao.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 13, 2017, 05:29:29 PM
how are they useless


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 13, 2017, 05:57:25 PM
There's always a stance that the host will give out pretty complicated fortunes or fates, unless you have very high deciphering skills, that role can be pretty hard to deal with.

I have no idea why wolves had a nerve to tackle the Priest.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Saburo on July 13, 2017, 06:53:57 PM
I don't know either
Also does anyone have leads


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Kowhai on July 13, 2017, 07:01:20 PM
1. No one visited me Night 1
2. One person to visit me was the Dauber Wolf

Really, neither of these are helpful, they could both be true. Fortunately, I contacted 2 blue roles last night, the Seer and the Necromancer, and directed them both to dar so they could form alliances, so I feel as though I have done more than merely catch one wolf.

Also, lynch people who haven't claimed any roles. There is only one human with special abilities who I do not know the identity of and that is the Insomniac, meaning all but one of the unclaimed will be either wolves or independents. Except for the unclaimed who have told me their roles, of course. For this reason, I recommend letting dar vote first to avoid accidentally revealing the identity of the Seer or the Necromancer, he knows who they are.

Also, Necro, if you revive me tonight, I'll get you in contact with the Seer. An alliance of 4 people is a strong one, so get on it.

I believe that's all I have to say for now, good luck.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 14, 2017, 05:34:45 AM
Who are we gonna lynch now?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: memes on July 14, 2017, 07:31:41 AM
I dunno. I don't really have any ideas on who is suspicious.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Cosmic on July 14, 2017, 08:00:33 AM
I'm not entirely sure. I've no leads.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: dar on July 14, 2017, 08:17:44 AM
Lynch Penguin because I think I have something.


"I've recieved a letter from anonymous, saying that "There's a wolf that's disguised as a bird around your house. Get to it!" What a strange deal, someone  hiding from me by being a bird? I'll check to see if this is true..."

"And there it was, a human in a penguin costume. I didn't even bother voting against him only because he voted against me, but since I've recieved a letter, I had to get his vote up to the office... as soon as they'll let me be, because it's nearing sunset. I don't have any more evidence because no one is exactly sure who the wolf is anymore.."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Kirby on July 14, 2017, 08:20:33 AM
Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Saburo on July 14, 2017, 08:33:15 AM
It's the best we can do at this point
Lynch penguon


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 08:33:54 AM
Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 08:43:08 AM
Wheatley had my role before he died if that helps you out.

Lynch Punny Toasty.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
I'm a human lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
Well, there are literally no leads and a human claim is fairly suspicious.

But you seem trustworthy, I guess. Lynch Ataino instead for now I guess.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Leia on July 14, 2017, 09:40:09 AM
Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 14, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
Lynch Ataino


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Saburo on July 14, 2017, 09:52:32 AM
Lynch ataino
If there's a small chance penguin is a blue role we shouldn't off him


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Why don't we ask Ataino what role he is first

same with Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Leia on July 14, 2017, 10:11:25 AM
Alright sure, I can wait for claims


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
Hate to say it, but I'm Seer. That's why I've been saying things like "Seer should stay quiet", etc, etc. I was trying to give the subtle implication I was Seer without out right claiming it.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 10:29:52 AM
ok then, unlynch Penguin

but do you have anything helpful to lynch any wolves?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 10:34:54 AM
Tho I already said im a human and I can't find any way to prove it :/
actually, I just realised something, did Storm even claim for saying "I found out who the wolves is" in Night 1? Should we lynch him? idek..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 10:37:44 AM
ok then, unlynch Penguin

but do you have anything helpful to lynch any wolves?
N1 I seered Symphony who claims Undecided, and sided with the humans. N2 I seered the Amnesiac who wishes to remain private atm.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
ok,

amnesiac, if the seer dies, you know what to do


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: dar on July 14, 2017, 10:54:32 AM
Actually I change my vote to Lenny.

"These letters are confusing, I'm suddenly getting one every hour. Someone's saying Lenny is the one who sided with wolves, but it's too confusing. How do I know anything?"


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 10:55:50 AM
Lynch Ataino


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 10:56:21 AM
Lynch Ataino
um what why


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
I dunno who to vote now



Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: dar on July 14, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
"Well, We're staying up all night, folks. The wolves won't come at us for now. We've got some work to do."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:00:02 AM
um what why

If Penguin is a seer, then it would make sense to lynch you.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: dar on July 14, 2017, 11:00:44 AM
"These letters are too confusing for me"

Lynch nobody.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:01:03 AM
If Penguin is a seer, then it would make sense to lynch you.

not really he claimed human

and if you say thats suspicious then you should vote me instead because I claimed human late


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 11:01:20 AM
Did you even read the other postst Dom


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:02:01 AM
not really he claimed human

and if you say thats suspicious then you should vote me instead because I claimed human late
Did you even read the other postst Dom
Hate to say it, but I'm Seer. That's why I've been saying things like "Seer should stay quiet", etc, etc. I was trying to give the subtle implication I was Seer without out right claiming it.
I let the quotes speak for themselves


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 11:02:30 AM
Did you even see the YET other posts


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Leia on July 14, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
What just happened I'm so confused

Unlynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:04:21 AM
I let the quotes speak for themselves

Don't even see the point of that


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Did you even see the YET other posts
What does YET mean? And if you tell me it's yet capitalized, than "the yet other posts" makes no sense.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
What does it even mean.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:06:11 AM
Have you even claimed a role Senpai? ;p


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
Have you even claimed a role Senpai? ;p
this^ and I meant the other posts that you didn't quote that were between me and toasty's and penguin's


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:08:18 AM
I saw those, but there was no new lynchee from that conversation...


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:10:52 AM
I saw those, but there was no new lynchee from that conversation...

Just explain why you are lynching Ataino

(or claim a role)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 11:12:33 AM
((Or do both))


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:15:24 AM
I believe that Penguin is the seer. If that is true, there must be a rewason he lynched ATaino.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
It was random


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:18:34 AM
he just said who he seer checked, unless someone Pmed him, then its random


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:20:41 AM
Why did he not unlynch you then?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Not sure what drugs Senapi is on, but he should definitely stop. That's some hardcore stuff.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 14, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
Not sure what drugs Senapi is on, but he should definitely stop. That's some hardcore stuff.
Fine
Ulynch


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:23:39 AM
lol

ok, so does anyone else have any evidence on who to lynch

for now, lynch nobody


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
(BTW, the only reason I'm keeping my lynch on Ataino is because I didn't want to be lynched myself since there were quite a few votes on me.)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 11:36:23 AM
Just saying, there are a lot of people who haven't claimed a role,

and some that have barely posted at all lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Kirby on July 14, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Lunch ataino


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Saburo on July 14, 2017, 11:57:01 AM
Wait how many votes who at the moment


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 12:10:37 PM
Okay then you shuold probably stop lynching a normal human..


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 03:42:41 PM
Hey guys im sleepy and everything so the real seer PMed me and well they gave more proof as to why penguin is a wolf and fake and that they are the actual seer so yea lynch Penguin i guess


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Ataino on July 14, 2017, 03:45:10 PM
tho, before lynching me again:
>Penguin wouldn't have claimed in the topic, and would've just gone at PMing dar, a proved blue role. Even dar lynched Penguin, so yeah. Penguin is def not stupid and he knows the guardian is dead, so yeah. Well anyways if he just told dar and not claim in the topic he would have less chance of being killed actually. We have 0 proof that Wheat actually knew that he was the seer, and wheat would definetely tell dar if he knew, and since dar lynched him at first.. well you probably get it by now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Leia on July 14, 2017, 04:23:08 PM
Wait what

Well now I'm really, really confused


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Faiz on July 14, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
Lyka - Lyka
DJ Roomba - Ataino
Zero - Ataino
Stormbreaker - Stormbreaker x2
Leia - Leia x2
Symphony - Symphony x2
Ataino - Penguin022
Penguin022 - Ataino
DonutsILike - DonutsILike x2
dar - Penguin022
Punny Toasty - Punny Toasty
Lenny - Ataino
SenpaiViolet - SenpaiViolet

Ataino is lynched.

Lenny needs to make a non-lynch post by the end of the night.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 14, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
wow Ataino was not a wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 14, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
I mean obviously what did you guys think would happen


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 14, 2017, 10:02:56 PM
tho, before lynching me again:
>Penguin wouldn't have claimed in the topic, and would've just gone at PMing dar, a proved blue role. Even dar lynched Penguin, so yeah. Penguin is def not stupid and he knows the guardian is dead, so yeah. Well anyways if he just told dar and not claim in the topic he would have less chance of being killed actually. We have 0 proof that Wheat actually knew that he was the seer, and wheat would definetely tell dar if he knew, and since dar lynched him at first.. well you probably get it by now
I have given reasons for everything I've said. Not sure who claimed seer to you is, but considering I'm probably going to die tonight, you should probably wait until after I die (to prove I really was innocent) to say who claimed Seer so we can lynch them.

Anyways, I'm guessing the wolves are gonna kill me tonight, so gl m8s


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 15, 2017, 02:25:42 AM
Sorry for being such inactive, guys (and girls). When the lynching time starts no one starts lynching and when u start lynching it's night in my time zone. Also, I can't have access on the internet in the nights, because my cellphone is kinda damaged and it's difficult to open my pc.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: dar on July 15, 2017, 07:09:56 AM
"It's impossible for only one of us to stand guard, all our houses are far away from each other!"


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 15, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
Penguin022 was going to be the wolves' dinner tonight, but a mysterious protector saved him.

Wheatley rose from the dead.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 15, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
YAY WE IS SAVED


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 15, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
WHEATLEY!


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 15, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
@Wolves so um yeah so that amnesiac guy, yeah he's kinda the guardian

WELCOME BACK WHEATLEY


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 15, 2017, 12:02:00 PM
any evidence Penguin? Who'd you seer


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 15, 2017, 02:39:24 PM
LMFAO to Wolves.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: dar on July 15, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
"Who's that with us?" Penguin exclaimed.



Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
There are now 2 seer claims. One is Penguin, and, judging by how he was just attacked, he's telling the truth.

The other is Leia. Lynch Leia.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 15, 2017, 06:08:03 PM
Jesus christ, if you lynch me humans are screwed.

If you even read the insanely long and detailed PM I sent you, you'd know that we can't mislynch today because wolves will win instantly (assuming Lenny > Tin). Need I write it out?

We're at 7-5 currently, this is assuming the Refugee is dead and Lenny remembered as Tin. A mislynch will drop us to 6-5, and then we'll be at 5-5 and by then the wolves will have won.

If Lenny did actually remember as Guardian (which is actually probably what happened), Penguin is smart, he'll might be able to hold out an extra day saying that I must have been some neutral or something. Even then, the win rate becomes so insanely slim and Symphony if he goes for Magician Wolf it's virtually nothing. We're already this close to being screwed over, we can. not. mislynch.

Come on, Wheatley.

Lynch Penguin022


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
You did not explain how Penguin was attacked last night, which happens to be the main reason I'm lynching you instead of Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 15, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Lenny actually remembers as Guardian (I put it in one of the last paragraphs with a note about how we should lynch him last and only if necessary because of this), right before the recap and lists of things to do


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 06:15:04 PM
I didn't mean how the wolves' target was guarded, I meant how Penguin specifically was attacked. Sorry if I confused you.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 15, 2017, 06:17:42 PM
I just assumed that wolves could attack themselves- there's nothing in the rules against it

Although now that you say that, just to make sure- @ Butanol, can wolves attack themselves?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 06:19:43 PM
Just to note: If they can, I will immediately lynch Penguin, as I find it odd as to why you would wolf Penguin in the knowledge that I would be revived that night.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 15, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
Lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 15, 2017, 08:04:36 PM
Lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 08:05:28 PM
No don't lynch Leia yet
Wait for Butanol to answer


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 15, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
Ok fine

Unlynch leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Saburo on July 15, 2017, 08:36:51 PM
The wolves killed a wolf last game but that was after Leia remembered so this might differ.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
The wolves killed a wolf last game but that was after Leia remembered so this might differ.
Yeah, that was unintentional team killing. This would be intentional team attacking.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 15, 2017, 09:33:51 PM
There are so many flaws with what Leia was saying, and I still don't completely understand it. However, I'd like to point out a few things.

a) I've claimed the same role for this whole game, and I've proved it for the most part. Leia claimed both Seer AND Insomniac, which is a classic wolf move of claiming 2 roles.
b) You kindfully have admitted to everyone that Lenny was the Amnesiac, and therefore he can't be lying that he was Guardian, because I was bleeping saved from the wolves last night! You can't say he remembered as Tin if he did that!
c) You've also been using the whole "I'm confused" biz this whole game, which is one of the most classic wolf lines.

I don't completely get all of what you were saying, considering it's 12:33am, but you could not be any more suspicious.

Lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 09:48:45 PM
There are so many flaws with what Leia was saying, and I still don't completely understand it. However, I'd like to point out a few things.

a) I've claimed the same role for this whole game, and I've proved it for the most part. Leia claimed both Seer AND Insomniac, which is a classic wolf move of claiming 2 roles.
b) You kindfully have admitted to everyone that Lenny was the Amnesiac, and therefore he can't be lying that he was Guardian, because I was bleep saved from the wolves last night! You can't say he remembered as Tin if he did that!
c) You've also been using the whole "I'm confused" biz this whole game, which is one of the most classic wolf lines.

I don't completely get all of what you were saying, considering it's 12:33am, but you could not be any more suspicious.

Lynch Leia
1. Wolf Shaman exists, you could just as easily be that. Also, this is what Leia told me in a PM she sent me shortly after I was revived:
I PMed Penguin to tell him that I'm Insomniac so he wouldn't wolf me.
So that explains her claiming 2 roles, more or less

2. We are not disputing Lenny being Guardian, that is more or less confirmed as of right now.

3. Yes, I'm confused is a common thing for wolves to say. However, it is feeble evidence compared to the fact that, if Leia was wolf, she would've been attempting to wolf the one person who disputed her Seer claim, proving his innocence, while in the knowledge that the one person she claimed Seer to would be revived that night. I think that's a much more strong piece of evidence than "I'm confused".


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 09:49:55 PM
Even so, hold off on lynching anyone until Butanol has answered Leia's question. If he answers yes, then we lynch Penguin. If he answers no, then we lynch Leia.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 15, 2017, 10:26:16 PM
I just assumed that wolves could attack themselves- there's nothing in the rules against it

Although now that you say that, just to make sure- @ Butanol, can wolves attack themselves?
Yes, they can.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 10:26:49 PM
Okay, cool

Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 15, 2017, 10:31:03 PM
It's 1:30 in the morning RN, I'll defend tomorrow.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 15, 2017, 11:40:49 PM
Also, it would be appreciated if the Insomniac could PM me.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: memes on July 16, 2017, 01:19:07 AM
Lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 01:33:06 AM
No no, we're lynching Penguin right now.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 16, 2017, 02:01:23 AM
Lynch Penguin022.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 04:36:51 AM
There are so many flaws with what Leia was saying, and I still don't completely understand it. However, I'd like to point out a few things.

a) I've claimed the same role for this whole game, and I've proved it for the most part. Leia claimed both Seer AND Insomniac, which is a classic wolf move of claiming 2 roles.
b) You kindfully have admitted to everyone that Lenny was the Amnesiac, and therefore he can't be lying that he was Guardian, because I was bleep saved from the wolves last night! You can't say he remembered as Tin if he did that!
c) You've also been using the whole "I'm confused" biz this whole game, which is one of the most classic wolf lines.

I don't completely get all of what you were saying, considering it's 12:33am, but you could not be any more suspicious.

Lynch Leia
Wheatley already addressed the first two points- as for the last point, yes I was saying "I"m confused" because I couldn't outright say that I wanted to lynch you yesterday after town thought you were seer. I didn't want to pick a side, because one would've gotten me wolfed and the other would've let you get away, so I had to stay neutral and "confused" until the lynches switched in my favor. Which never happened, because Ataino did it too late and dar never did it at all.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 04:40:38 AM
Yea
I penguin's point number 3 is what bugs me
I mean Leia is an awesome mafia player, but constantly saying she was confusing because of one vote switching is too fishy to me
Lynch Leia sorry in advance if you are the real seer
Also revealing out loud who the amnesiac who remembered guardian is isn't something a blue role would do


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 04:43:52 AM
I don't see how Leia attacking someone she knew would be guarded and also exposing herself as a wolf makes any sense either but okay.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 16, 2017, 04:44:22 AM
Lynch Penguin022


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 04:46:18 AM
bloop I thought that Penguin already revealed the Amnesiac, so I seriously screwed that up- but why would I have to do that if I was wolf? Penguin already told me about him last night, so wouldn't I have killed him instead of going for Penguin who I knew was going to be guarded?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 04:48:49 AM
Question, Butanol- once the Undecided sides with the wolves, do the wolves know?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 04:57:23 AM
bleep I thought that Penguin already revealed the Amnesiac, so I seriously screwed that up- but why would I have to do that if I was wolf? Penguin already told me about him last night, so wouldn't I have killed him instead of going for Penguin who I knew was going to be guarded?
so you could "expose penguin's master plan" and completely gain town trust, leading wolves to easy victory.
and also gaining yourself wolf mvp.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:10:50 AM
so you could "expose penguin's master plan" and completely gain town trust, leading wolves to easy victory.
and also gaining yourself wolf mvp.
Leia already had the trust of Penguin, who had the trust of everybody. Why would she need to attack Penguin and somehow predict all of the events of this day to gain the trust of the town?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
wait
how did they get each other's trust when they claimed same roles?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:22:38 AM
Leia claimed Insomniac to Penguin so he wouldn't attack her.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 05:23:49 AM
makes sense
lynch Pneguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:25:36 AM
Okay, cool.
Also, I still haven't received an Insomniac claim. Please respond, whoever you are.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 05:29:18 AM
Okay, cool.
Also, I still haven't received an Insomniac claim. Please respond, whoever you are.
It might have been Ravine Roth (or she could've been Refugee)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 16, 2017, 05:31:08 AM
Now things gone confusing... ???


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:31:45 AM
It might have been Ravine Roth (or she could've been Refugee)
Maybe. However, maybe not. I'm still open to claims.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 16, 2017, 06:02:08 AM
Question, Butanol- once the Undecided sides with the wolves, do the wolves know?
Not before N4.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Ataino on July 16, 2017, 06:09:19 AM
1. Insom could be dead (maybeevenKieforRavine)
2. Don't forget about neutrals. Is thereany "bad" black/neutral role?
3. this spacebar sucks
Okay I don't exactly havesomething to sayas im a penguin i mean ahuman why did that pop up in myhead

just, either we losetoday, orwe continue today. All of one lynch.

Tho, ihada little ideawhere Leiawould actually go for penguin so that shesays (or make someone say) "leia isa good mafia playershe wouldn't have attackedtheperson who claimed her samerole" but thatis very unlikely

Donutsilike maybea wolf, and senpai, butidk

well, this pace bar really does do suck. Bye
~A human


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:17:01 AM
The only black roles are amne, refugee and undecided. Amne is confirmed to be Guardian, Refugee is probably dead, and Undecided is known and monitored.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 16, 2017, 07:37:09 AM
I am really confused.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 07:40:43 AM
Penguin lied about being Seer, and attacked himself in the knowledge that Lenny (former amnesiac) would guard him to "confirm" himself. Leia is the real seer, and she claimed Insomniac to Penguin so that she wouldn't die. Basically, lynch Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 16, 2017, 08:42:24 AM
!Incoming long post!


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 16, 2017, 09:02:53 AM
Who should I lynch?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 09:04:51 AM
Jeez what happened while I was gone

Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 09:08:05 AM
Jeez what happened while I was gone

Lynch Penguin
strategy


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 16, 2017, 09:09:31 AM
I will random lynch DonutsILike.
Because I can't trust anyone.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 16, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
I just find it weird that leia revealed I am Amne in the topic for everyone to see


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 16, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Sorry that took so long. I started typing this up, but I had to go out to brunch and just got back now.
So let me get this straight. I am being lynched because it is physically possible for the wolves to kill a wolf. I'm being lynched just because that is hypothetically possible. Notice there's a key problem there?

Leia's reasoning for being a Seer is the same as when I was a wolf and tried to prove my Guardian claim in A Rift in Time with a hilariously bs story where I took a hypothetical but obviously incorrect truth, and created a farfetched story using the little information I had. The story with minimal evidence didn't work, due to the fact that there was minimal evidence. You can see my case here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22981.180)

This instance is a lot like A Rift in Time. Leia was going to be lynched, so she panicked and gave a conspiracy story about how I am guilty and set it all up to make her look evil. Here's a hint, peeps. Any time someone is about to be lynched gives a conspiracy theory as a defense, they are guilty. This isn't just seen in ARIT, but it's been seen in countless TWGs.

I'm not gonna waste my time on giving elaborate reasons why I'm innocent (unless people want that in which I'll be happy to oblige), so I'll try to put this in point form, and as short as possible.

Just to note: If they can, I will immediately lynch Penguin, as I find it odd as to why you would wolf Penguin in the knowledge that I would be revived that night.
I don't understand what's wrong here. Leia claimed Seer to you apparently, so if you were revived you would lynch her considering I cced? What am I missing out on?
2. We are not disputing Lenny being Guardian, that is more or less confirmed as of right now.

3. Yes, I'm confused is a common thing for wolves to say. However, it is feeble evidence compared to the fact that, if Leia was wolf, she would've been attempting to wolf the one person who disputed her Seer claim, proving his innocence, while in the knowledge that the one person she claimed Seer to would be revived that night. I think that's a much more strong piece of evidence than "I'm confused".
2. I was speaking of Leia saying
(assuming Lenny > Tin).
3. Ditto to what I said before 2.

ok all of that and the stuff I said before. Leia revealing Lenny is Guardian, bla bla bla, not to mention the fact that killing a wolf is kinda a ridiculous strategy and I don't understand why I would do that, considering there is a humongous chance that Lenny could be lying and/or not gonna guard me. I will admit I've always thought the strategy was kinda intriguing though. :3

Not sure if I'm forgetting anything.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 16, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
BTW, to Stormbreaker, lynching DonutsILike is probably a bad idea considering I seered him green, unless he's painted or he's disguised wolf.

Also, Leia, I've said who I've seered, who have you if you don't mind me asking?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 10:33:41 AM
lynch Leia I guess


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
Sorry that took so long. I started typing this up, but I had to go out to brunch and just got back now.
So let me get this straight. I am being lynched because it is physically possible for the wolves to kill a wolf. I'm being lynched just because that is hypothetically possible. Notice there's a key problem there?

Leia's reasoning for being a Seer is the same as when I was a wolf and tried to prove my Guardian claim in A Rift in Time with a hilariously bs story where I took a hypothetical but obviously incorrect truth, and created a farfetched story using the little information I had. The story with minimal evidence didn't work, due to the fact that there was minimal evidence. You can see my case here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22981.180)

This instance is a lot like A Rift in Time. Leia was going to be lynched, so she panicked and gave a conspiracy story about how I am guilty and set it all up to make her look evil. Here's a hint, peeps. Any time someone is about to be lynched gives a conspiracy theory as a defense, they are guilty. This isn't just seen in ARIT, but it's been seen in countless TWGs.
Here's the problem with this: I PMed Wheatley a huge "conspiracy theory" or whatever you want to call it before I knew he wanted to lynch me, so this is invalid.

Quote
I'm not gonna waste my time on giving elaborate reasons why I'm innocent (unless people want that in which I'll be happy to oblige), so I'll try to put this in point form, and as short as possible.
I actually would like this if you've got time

Quote
I don't understand what's wrong here. Leia claimed Seer to you apparently, so if you were revived you would lynch her considering I cced? What am I missing out on?
Wheatley told me who the Necro is in their plan to revive him in the event that he would die.

Quote
ok all of that and the stuff I said before. Leia revealing Lenny is Guardian
Why would I have to reveal that Lenny was Guardian if I was a wolf? I would have already told the rest of the wolves about it, no need to mention it in the topic. It was a slipup (not that it matters though the rest of the wolves already know)

, bla bla bla, not to mention the fact that killing a wolf is kinda a ridiculous strategy and I don't understand why I would do that, considering there is a humongous chance that Lenny could be lying and/or not gonna guard me.[/quote] It was a safe enough bet for you. None of the neutrals are dead (at least, none of the dead people have revealed), so Lenny must've taken the Guardian role because you knew he couldn't be wolf because you hadn't gotten a PM about it.

Main problem with you seer play cause I don't have time for more:

You didn't PM dar- instead, you claimed in the topic, which is two bright red flags. The first is that if you were really Seer, you would've been smart enough to PM the only confirmed role in town about who you are, so they could end the lynch train without forcing you to reveal your role. But you didn't. Instead you claimed in the topic, which brings me to the second flag which is you claiming in the topic to purposely try and draw me out. You're smart, Penguin. You know that the game is risky now that all of the blue roles have been claimed, so you need to nail the investigative roles before they find you and call you out.

Also, you can't be seer if I'm seer. So there's that.

And also I need to know when this day is going to end before it ends so I can figure out how much time I have to tell town who the wolves are and etc.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 11:03:30 AM
Punny Toasty- Leia
Penguin022- Leia
Stormbreaker- DonutsILike
Zero- Penguin022
Leia- Penguin022
Lenny- Leia
Cosmic- Penguin022
Lyka- Penguin022
Wheatley- Penguin022

Actually nevermind, I'm not pressed or anything


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 16, 2017, 11:16:42 AM
Butanol:
(https://media.tenor.com/images/54451401d52c0dd2fe9ee5752857d53c/tenor.gif)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Saburo on July 16, 2017, 11:28:47 AM
Ok so who do we trust Leia or Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 16, 2017, 12:23:15 PM
That's the question here.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 05:19:11 PM
I think the "wolfing yourself" plan is way to risky. If Penguin was actually being Penguin, he wouldn't trust that Lenny would guard him.
Lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
1. So let me get this straight. I am being lynched because it is physically possible for the wolves to kill a wolf. I'm being lynched just because that is hypothetically possible.

2. Here's a hint, peeps. Any time someone is about to be lynched gives a conspiracy theory as a defense, they are guilty. This isn't just seen in ARIT, but it's been seen in countless TWGs.

3. I don't understand what's wrong here. Leia claimed Seer to you apparently, so if you were revived you would lynch her considering I cced? What am I missing out on?

4. I was speaking of Leia saying.

5. not to mention the fact that killing a wolf is kinda a ridiculous strategy and I don't understand why I would do that, considering there is a humongous chance that Lenny could be lying and/or not gonna guard me. I will admit I've always thought the strategy was kinda intriguing though. :3
1. No, you are being lynched because your claim conflicts with that of Leia's, and it is highly unlikely that Leia would be a wolf, as discussed in posts that you completely ignored.

2. So, instead of even trying to counter all the reasons why Leia could not be wolf, you instead bring up weak, trend-based evidence? I'm sorry, but trend-based evidence Is only acceptable when there are no other leads, because it is assuming someone's team based on things they've done which correlate with what other people on that team have done in the past, generally without that action having any clear connection to being on that team. No, I'm sorry, but that kind of argument stopped being acceptable as soon as I made my first post today. Also, incidentally, I came up with a large part of this "conspiracy theory", are you going to accuse me of being a wolf too?

3. Okay, cool. That does not explain why she would attack you. If anything, it weakens your argument, because attacking you would not only fail due to you being guarded (something Leia knew well) but it would also make her appear more suspicious to me by making you look more innocent (something Leia also knew well). With that all in mind, why the bleep would Leia attack you if she was wolf?

4. Okay, cool. That doesn't prove anything, and besides, we'd since decided that Lenny is legit Guardian, so I don't see any relevancy. Focus on the important points.

5. You're overblowing this "humongous chance" and you know full well. First, assuming you are a wolf, you would know that Lenny had not remembered as a wolf and as such was not lying about his role. If he was planning to side with humans, it would make no sense, not only for him to remember as a role that wasn't Guardian, but for him to not tell you about it. He wouldn't have not guarded you either, because he trusted you completely, he had no reason to distrust you, there weren't any counter-claims as far as he knew, and even if he had doubts, they would've been minor, and, in his mind, not worth losing the seer over. Besides all that, the wolves would've been in quite a bad position at that time, as they were one wolf down and were at the risk of losing their shaman due to me proclaiming to have knowledge of the true seer. You would've needed some evidence to back up your seer claim, and the tiny chance that you wouldn't be guarded likely wouldn't have even mattered much to you, since you would've been dead the next day anyway if you didn't decide to attack yourself.

2.7/10, too many weak and misleading arguments.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:34:45 PM
I don't see how Leia attacking someone she knew would be guarded and also exposing herself as a wolf makes any sense either but okay.
Leia already had the trust of Penguin, who had the trust of everybody. Why would she need to attack Penguin and somehow predict all of the events of this day to gain the trust of the town?
Please rebutt these. Properly, this time.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 05:38:45 PM
Basically, lynch Penguin unless he can A. Provide some legitimate reasons as to why he couldn't be wolf, or B. Provide legitimate rebuttal to my reasons as to why Leia couldn't be wolf. Preferably both. As it is, he just seems more suspicious for being intentionally misleading.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:00:13 PM
Actually, Leia still hasn't said who she seered, so for now I'm still voting her


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
I doubt seer results are the first thing on Leia's mind right now. Besides, the person who's lying is almost certainly Wolf Shaman, meaning they have results either way. Besides all that, Penguin hasn't revealed results either. That is such an idiotic reason to vote Leia, I'm almost impressed.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
Actually he has lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:05:01 PM
I seered Lenny last night and he was black
This is something Leia sent me on Night 2. While she hasn't updated me on her results as of yet (or she might have, and I just can't remember), this has been proven to be correct, and there is no other way she could've known this other than by seering him. Your reasoning is completely invalid.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:16:30 PM
This is something Leia sent me on Night 2. While she hasn't updated me on her results as of yet (or she might have, and I just can't remember), this has been proven to be correct, and there is no other way she could've known this other than by seering him. Your reasoning is completely invalid.
Wolf Shaman is in this game


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:18:34 PM
Wolf Shaman is in this game
You mean like I pointed out before? Yes, I know Wolf Shaman is in the game, that's presumably the role of the fake seer. I'm not using this as evidence to support Leia's case, it's already supported enough. I'm using it to point out why Punny Toasty's reason for voting Leia is absolute bullbleep.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 2)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
N1 I seered Symphony who claims Undecided, and sided with the humans.

How about we ask Symphony if this is correct? Just wanna check, if not, then I'll lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:19:32 PM
Seriously though, why are people still doubting Leia? Please tell me, I'm happy to dispel your doubts.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:19:55 PM
How about we ask Symphony if this is correct? Just wanna check, if not, then I'll lynch Penguin
Symphony is Undecided. Penguin is Wolf Shaman. How is this so hard to grasp?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
You mean like I pointed out before? Yes, I know Wolf Shaman is in the game, that's presumably the role of the fake seer. I'm not using this as evidence to support Leia's case, it's already supported enough. I'm using it to point out why Punny Toasty's reason for voting Leia is absolute bullbleep.
"there is no other way she could've known this other than by seering him". That is your own words. I was saying that she could be a Shaman Wolf, as they can seer people.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:22:25 PM
"there is no other way she could've known this other than by seering him". That is your own words. I was saying that she could be a Shaman Wolf, as they can seer people.
I. KNOW.
BY SEERING I MEANT THE ACTION PERFORMED BY THE SEER AS WELL AS THE WOLF SHAMAN. I WAS IN NO WAY SAYING THE WOLF SHAMAN COULD NOT SEER PEOPLE. IS THAT SO HARD TO bleepingING UNDERSTAND?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Somebody is overreacting a little bit

I'm just trying to get evidence, is that so hard to grasp? In no way did I say you were completely incorrect, I'm trying to figure out who the wolf could be, and you are getting a little too worked up over it


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:26:05 PM
You mean like I pointed out before? Yes, I know Wolf Shaman is in the game, that's presumably the role of the fake seer. I'm not using this as evidence to support Leia's case, it's already supported enough. I'm using it to point out why Punny Toasty's reason for voting Leia is absolute bullbleep.
If that's what you are trying to say, then the same argument could be used during Penguin's N1 seer claim, as he also claims to have seered Symphony. I could use the same argument to tell you that your reason for voting Penguin is absolute bullbleep, just as you have done.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:29:39 PM
Somebody is overreacting a little bit

I'm just trying to get evidence, is that so hard to grasp? In no way did I say you were completely incorrect, I'm trying to figure out who the wolf could be, and you are getting a little too worked up over it
I'm sorry, but you were going off on a completely unrelated tangent, trying to justify a lynch with a dumb reason, and Senpai was just being really slow. It's frustrating. Just tell me why you doubt Leia, and I'll address that doubt.
If that's what you are trying to say, then the same argument could be used during Penguin's N1 seer claim, as he also claims to have seered Symphony. I could use the same argument to tell you that your reason for voting Penguin is absolute bullbleep, just as you have done.
Here, let me lay it out as simple as I can.

Leia is a role that can seer people (Seer, Wolf Shaman)
Penguin is also a role that can seer people (Seer, Wolf Shaman)
Due to reasons that are unrelated to what you are saying, and which you can find in this topic, I believe that Leia is Seer, and Penguin is Wolf Shaman. It doesn't matter whether or not either of them can seer people, it's already known they both can. It's a matter of which one is the human seer, and which one is the wolf seer.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:32:03 PM
I'm sorry, but you were going off on a completely unrelated tangent, trying to justify a lynch with a dumb reason, and Senpai was just being really slow. It's frustrating. Just tell me why you doubt Leia, and I'll address that doubt.Here, let me lay it out as simple as I can.

Leia is a role that can seer people (Seer, Wolf Shaman)
Penguin is also a role that can seer people (Seer, Wolf Shaman)
Due to reasons that are unrelated to what you are saying, and which you can find in this topic, I believe that Leia is Seer, and Penguin is Wolf Shaman. It doesn't matter whether or not either of them can seer people, it's already known they both can. It's a matter of which one is the human seer, and which one is the wolf seer.
I believe that you were going to fast and missed what I was saying.
You used that argument to claim that Toasty's reason for voting Leia was bullbleep, when Penguin claimed to do the same thing. If they both claim the same thing, what about each argument makes the other bullbleep?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:32:34 PM
I just don't even know anymore... I'm not good at this game


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:35:59 PM
I believe that you were going to fast and missed what I was saying.
You used that argument to claim that Toasty's reason for voting Leia was bullbleep, when Penguin claimed to do the same thing. If they both claim the same thing, what about each argument makes the other bullbleep?
I don't know exactly what you're trying to say. However, I'll try my best to understand.

Toasty should not have voted for Leia because she had not shown any seer results, because it's already been proven that she can seer. That's all I was trying to say. His reason is invalid. You cannot judge Leia's innocence/guilt or Penguin's innocence/guilt based off of whether or not their seer results are valid, because they both are. What you can do is judge their innocence/guilt based off of other evidence, which is what I have done, and in doing so, I have determined Penguin to be guilty, and Leia to be innocent.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:36:10 PM
I just don't even know anymore... I'm not good at this game
Basically, vote Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:37:53 PM
whatever I guess

Lynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
Okay. Here's my argument.
It is true that it would pin Leia down if she tried to wolf Penguin and the Guardian guarded him.
HOWEVER
Why would Penguin try to wolf himself? If the Guardian lied about protecting him, all the wolves would be screwed. The Penguin I know would be much more careful. He would try to get MVP, but if he died, then that would ruin the plan. He is the guy who trys to lead the wolves, come up with great plans, and normally not screw up.
My point is, it would be unlike Penguin to risk his own death. You do not have to follow my advice, however, I advise you to.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 16, 2017, 06:43:47 PM
Okay. Here's my argument.
It is true that it would pin Leia down if she tried to wolf Penguin and the Guardian guarded him.
HOWEVER
Why would Penguin try to wolf himself? If the Guardian lied about protecting him, all the wolves would be screwed. The Penguin I know would be much more careful. He would try to get MVP, but if he died, then that would ruin the plan. He is the guy who trys to lead the wolves, come up with great plans, and normally not screw up.
My point is, it would be unlike Penguin to risk his own death. You do not have to follow my advice, however, I advise you to.

Thats what I was thinking but either way Penguin is going to be lynched


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
Okay. Here's my argument.
It is true that it would pin Leia down if she tried to wolf Penguin and the Guardian guarded him.
HOWEVER
Why would Penguin try to wolf himself? If the Guardian lied about protecting him, all the wolves would be screwed. The Penguin I know would be much more careful. He would try to get MVP, but if he died, then that would ruin the plan. He is the guy who trys to lead the wolves, come up with great plans, and normally not screw up.
My point is, it would be unlike Penguin to risk his own death. You do not have to follow my advice, however, I advise you to.
5. You're overblowing this "humongous chance" and you know full well. First, assuming you are a wolf, you would know that Lenny had not remembered as a wolf and as such was not lying about his role. If he was planning to side with humans, it would make no sense, not only for him to remember as a role that wasn't Guardian, but for him to not tell you about it. He wouldn't have not guarded you either, because he trusted you completely, he had no reason to distrust you, there weren't any counter-claims as far as he knew, and even if he had doubts, they would've been minor, and, in his mind, not worth losing the seer over. Besides all that, the wolves would've been in quite a bad position at that time, as they were one wolf down and were at the risk of losing their shaman due to me proclaiming to have knowledge of the true seer. You would've needed some evidence to back up your seer claim, and the tiny chance that you wouldn't be guarded likely wouldn't have even mattered much to you, since you would've been dead the next day anyway if you didn't decide to attack yourself.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 06:46:49 PM

AND
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TIME
Leia still hasn't talked to even you about her results.
Why is that? I believe she trusted you... But apparently, she does not, as she didn't tell you yet.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
AND
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TIME
Leia still hasn't talked to even you about her results.
Why is that? I believe she trusted you... But apparently, she does not, as she didn't tell you yet.
Results aren't a top priority right now. We're focusing on the Seer conundrum.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 06:51:37 PM
Dude chill he knows my seer results, he just missed them

(Second to last block of text, in bullet 1, Wheatley, it's not a main point it's just mentioned- I don't exactly want the rest of the game to know so the wolves won't push it hard on the off chance it isn't wolf, but you can share it I guess if you want)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:53:02 PM
Ah, yes, I see.
Well, I only see one, actually, what was the other?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 06:56:05 PM
I put the rest of them in the spoiler IIRC


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 16, 2017, 06:56:31 PM
Nope never mind I checked and I missed one I'll PM them to you now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 16, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
Okay, cool.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 16, 2017, 07:01:07 PM
Lynch Penguin now.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Saburo on July 16, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
Lynch Penguin I suppose

Also senpai is probably a wolf of penguin ends up being a wolf because of him protecting penguin and syiff


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 16, 2017, 08:45:01 PM
Lynch Penguin I suppose

Also senpai is probably a wolf of penguin ends up being a wolf because of him protecting penguin and syiff
Do any of you remember Classic Part 2?
I tried to defend Headmaster F. Oofis, despite the fact our roles had no connection.
I do this because I'm bored.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 04:08:32 AM
Do any of you remember Classic Part 2?
I tried to defend Headmaster F. Oofis, despite the fact our roles had no connection.
I do this because I'm bored.
You realize that could also be gamethrowing, right


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 06:31:51 AM
I honestly don't think Penguin will risk attacking himself

I will keep my lynch on Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 06:33:30 AM
The risk was tiny, and he would've almostcertainly have been lynched if he didn't take it. We've been through this.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
The risk was tiny, and he would've almostcertainly have been lynched if he didn't take it. We've been through this.
yeah but none of us thought to """"""""attack themselves"""""""""""


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 06:48:24 AM
What do you mean?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 07:54:05 AM
What do you mean?
It would be weird for Penguin to get the idea to attack himself, it was never done before


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 07:58:46 AM
Sorry that took so long. I started typing this up, but I had to go out to brunch and just got back now.
So let me get this straight. I am being lynched because it is physically possible for the wolves to kill a wolf. I'm being lynched just because that is hypothetically possible. Notice there's a key problem there?

Leia's reasoning for being a Seer is the same as when I was a wolf and tried to prove my Guardian claim in A Rift in Time with a hilariously bs story where I took a hypothetical but obviously incorrect truth, and created a farfetched story using the little information I had. The story with minimal evidence didn't work, due to the fact that there was minimal evidence. I will admit I've always thought the strategy was kinda intriguing though. :3
 (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22981.180)
Taken straight from Penguin's defense. He's had the idea in the past, it wouldn't be hard for him to come up with it again.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:00:23 AM
Whoops, forgot to edit the quote properly. This is the part I was referring to:
I will admit I've always thought the strategy was kinda intriguing though. :3


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:00:41 AM
Taken straight from Penguin's defense. He's had the idea in the past, it wouldn't be hard for him to come up with it again.
Fair enough, I still think it's more logical to lynch Leia though, I don't think Penguin would take the risk of attacking himself


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: dar on July 17, 2017, 08:01:26 AM
This has been going on for long.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:02:08 AM
Fair enough, I still think it's more logical to lynch Leia though, I don't think Penguin would take the risk of attacking himself
We're running in circles. I refer you to my previous quote:
The risk was tiny, and he would've almostcertainly have been lynched if he didn't take it. We've been through this.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:02:49 AM
I still think it's more logical to lynch Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:04:14 AM
Despite the fact that it was really more risky for Penguin to not attack himself?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:06:07 AM
Also, besides that, I find it even harder to believe that Leia would attack Penguin, for previously discussed reasons.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
ok I don't feel like going in circles again, but I will keep my lynch on Leia and I still stand by my point


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:08:22 AM
Please give me a reason as to why Leia would attack Penguin, considering what we already know.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:09:34 AM
Please give me a reason as to why Leia would attack Penguin, considering what we already know.
did Leia even know I remembered as guardian before the end of N2?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:11:55 AM
I do not believe so. She knew by Night 3 though, and I believe that's the only night that matters, unless you have evidence that suggests otherwise.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:14:03 AM
I do not believe so. She knew by Night 3 though, and I believe that's the only night that matters, unless you have evidence that suggests otherwise.
How did she know by N3 though


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 08:14:13 AM
Please give me a reason as to why Leia would attack Penguin, considering what we already know.
Here's what I think
Leia was the one who came up with the idea of the Penguin attacking himself plan. SHe was the one who posted it in the topic and started the whole thing. Is it possible she attacked Penguin, knowing he'd be saved, then coming up with that idea?
If that was true, Leia would have an extra night to kill, as Penguin would've been dead.
My point is that Leia attacked Penguin so she could say that Penguin attacked himself, which is a claim that is hard to object.
Wheatley, that is why Leia would attack Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:18:35 AM
That is a risky plan which would've been unnecessary considering she already had the trust of both Penguin and Lenny. Attacking someone else would've also got her a kill, unlike attacking Penguin. Why would she attack Penguin if attacking someone else would be a better plan in every conceivable way?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 08:19:36 AM
That is a risky plan which would've been unnecessary considering she already had the trust of both Penguin and Lenny. Attacking someone else would've also got her a kill, unlike attacking Penguin. Why would she attack Penguin if attacking someone else would be a better plan in every conceivable way?
Three Letters
M
V
P


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
That is a risky plan which would've been unnecessary considering she already had the trust of both Penguin and Lenny. Attacking someone else would've also got her a kill, unlike attacking Penguin. Why would she attack Penguin if attacking someone else would be a better plan in every conceivable way?
M
V
P


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:24:30 AM
1. Leia isn't the type of person who comes up with elaborate strategies with the intention of winning MVP when much simpler and safer options are available. The only two people who do that are SenpaiViolet and Black Hole.
2. You don't need to make an elaborate strategy to win MVP. It's an award for people who contribute to their team, not for people who act unpredictable at every turn and be a general nuisance.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
you didn't answer my question
How did she know by N3 though


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:26:38 AM
How did she know by N3 though
Because she was in an alliance with you and Penguin?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:28:10 AM
Because she was in an alliance with you and Penguin?
The alliance started after N3, or that's when I was added to the group PM anyway


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
What I meant by "knowing by Night 3" was "knowing before the end of Night 3". I believe that's all that matters.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:31:28 AM
What I meant by "knowing by Night 3" was "knowing before the end of Night 3". I believe that's all that matters.
I was added to the group PM after N3, I don't know if the alliance started before


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
Are you sure? Night 3 was last night.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 08:32:40 AM
1. Leia isn't the type of person who comes up with elaborate strategies with the intention of winning MVP when much simpler and safer options are available. The only two people who do that are SenpaiViolet and Black Hole.
2. You don't need to make an elaborate strategy to win MVP. It's an award for people who contribute to their team, not for people who act unpredictable at every turn and be a general nuisance.
1.Back in my first TWG's, I never tried to win MVP. Now, I occasionally try it. Also, note that Leia has 8 MVP's.
2.But, if you make the best move, and actually complete it, you have a greater chance of winning MVP.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
Are you sure? Night 3 was last night.
Yep, let me get the date of the message when I was added brb


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
1.Back in my first TWG's, I never tried to win MVP. Now, I occasionally try it. Also, note that Leia has 8 MVP's.
2.But, if you make the best move, and actually complete it, you have a greater chance of winning MVP.
Yes. The best move is what gets you MVP. Not the most original. Explain to me how attacking Penguin was the best move for Leia if she was wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 08:37:23 AM
Yes. The best move is what gets you MVP. Not the most original. Explain to me how attacking Penguin was the best move for Leia if she was wolf.
If there was someone leading the wolves, they would've gotten MVP if the Wolves win. However, I feel a plan like that would win Leia MVP instead. It helped that she already had an alliance with you and claimed Seer.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 17, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
Unlynch Penguin. I'll take some time to decide, then come back with a lynch (if the day hasn't ended by then)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:40:54 AM
If there was someone leading the wolves, they would've gotten MVP if the Wolves win. However, I feel a plan like that would win Leia MVP instead. It helped that she already had an alliance with you and claimed Seer.
If she attacked anyone else, she still would've probably got MVP for infiltrating the Seer's alliance. Besides, Leia is like most rational TWG players in that her moves are based on what is best for her team, rather than what is best for her MVP chances. She has many MVPs because she's good at doing that. Simple as that.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:41:39 AM
yep, the group PM was made on July 15 4:44 PM my time (GMT +2) which is after the night ended
so Leia didn't know I was Guardian until after N3 ended


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 17, 2017, 08:44:06 AM
What happened?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:44:22 AM
What happened?
Check the previous pages


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:44:42 AM
yep, the group PM was made on July 15 4:44 PM my time (GMT +2) which is after the night ended
so Leia didn't know I was Guardian until after N3 ended
Okay, that's interesting. However, killing Penguin still wouldn't have been a good idea, as shel already had Penguin's trust and would've guaranteed surviving at least another day by killing anyone else, a guarantee which would not have been provided by killing Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 17, 2017, 08:45:29 AM
Check the previous pages
That's a lot! I can't understand anything. Who was lynched? What will be our plans for Day 4?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 17, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Unlynch Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: dar on July 17, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Survive?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:47:42 AM
No one has been lynched yet. I think Penguin is guilty. Lenny thinks Leia is guilty. SenpaiViolet is being SenpaiViolet and making conspiracy theories. Everyone else is being fairly quiet.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 08:48:01 AM
You realize that could also be gamethrowing, right
Sorry to bring this up, but I was an amnesiac at that time, so I had no sides, and wasn't gamethrowing.
Okay, that's interesting. However, killing Penguin still wouldn't have been a good idea, as shel already had Penguin's trust and would've guaranteed surviving at least another day by killing anyone else, a guarantee which would not have been provided by killing Penguin.
PENGUIN CLAIMED SEER D2! THAT WAS BEFORE N3! HOW COULD SHE HAVE TRUSTED PENGUIN!?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:49:55 AM
She didn't, she was basically spying on him. Penguin did trust her, which is what I was saying.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 08:53:24 AM
In any case, I really need to sleep. Don't end the day before I get back please, I'm not finished.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Okay, that's interesting. However, killing Penguin still wouldn't have been a good idea, as shel already had Penguin's trust and would've guaranteed surviving at least another day by killing anyone else, a guarantee which would not have been provided by killing Penguin.
Still, killing a seer is never a bad idea


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 17, 2017, 09:00:38 AM
Okay, that's interesting. However, killing Penguin still wouldn't have been a good idea, as shel already had Penguin's trust and would've guaranteed surviving at least another day by killing anyone else, a guarantee which would not have been provided by killing Penguin.
Both Leia and Penguin both seered Storm as black. That's pretty much the same argument. She must've been thinking in case of a tie, as in case of a tie, a "knife" is thrown randomly. However, with this idea, more people would vote Penguin.
That is my answer.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 17, 2017, 12:53:58 PM
Hmmm...

Unlynch.

However, I'll lynch the same as Wheatley says, if he has said who to lynch. That's my vote.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 17, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
Can we try to get a tie going on until wheatley returns?
Idk how many votes each has


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: memes on July 17, 2017, 01:39:37 PM
Looks like Penguin and Leia are both claiming Seer. I don't really know if seer checks count as visits, though if yes, i might PM the insom if somebody has visited him.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 17, 2017, 01:43:30 PM
Yes they do
Problem is though, the one that isn't Seer is most likely wolf Shaman, meaning there would have been a visit anyways


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: memes on July 17, 2017, 02:23:08 PM
Ok, the insom told me Penguin visited them night three. So Penguin is definitely not faking it.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 17, 2017, 02:55:12 PM
Both are visiting roles tho
So that doesn't do anything


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
Ok I'm home I'll respond to a bunch of stuff but if people want me to respond to specific stuff they need to tell me because I'm not doing all of it


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
Hang on. If Leia didn't know that Penguin would be guarded, as Lenny says, then it makes even less sense that Leia would attack Penguin, as Leia knew that I would be revived that night, see that Penguin was dead and not a wolf, and immediately accuse her. And she would have no defense.
Still, killing a seer is never a bad idea
But if she attacked anyone else, then she knew that I would be revived the next night, probably accuse Penguin, and have the same result except without her dying immediately. In fact the only reason I accused Leia initially instead of Penguin is because Penguin was attacked. And even with the risk of being lynched instead, it would still be worth the risk. Penguin could just be killed the next night, plus there was a Dauber Wolf who could constantly mess up his results.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 03:38:00 PM
I honestly don't think Penguin will risk attacking himself

I will keep my lynch on Leia
There was no risk for him because there was no reason for you to lie after you remembered, because he would've known if you had become a wolf and there's no opposing neutral role in the game.
Here's what I think
Leia was the one who came up with the idea of the Penguin attacking himself plan. SHe was the one who posted it in the topic and started the whole thing. Is it possible she attacked Penguin, knowing he'd be saved, then coming up with that idea?
If that was true, Leia would have an extra night to kill, as Penguin would've been dead.
My point is that Leia attacked Penguin so she could say that Penguin attacked himself, which is a claim that is hard to object.
Wheatley, that is why Leia would attack Penguin.
... this is unnecessarily elaborate and if I was wolf I definitely would've done something way different instead of wasting a kill, like killing Lenny
1.Back in my first TWG's, I never tried to win MVP. Now, I occasionally try it. Also, note that Leia has 8 MVP's.
2.But, if you make the best move, and actually complete it, you have a greater chance of winning MVP.
The entire MVP argument is so invalid because I don't actually give a damn about how many MVPs I have and gaining them or whatever. It's literally a virtual award awarded to you on a cooking games forum. I'd much rather just play to win rather than play for MVP.
Both Leia and Penguin both seered Storm as black. That's pretty much the same argument. She must've been thinking in case of a tie, as in case of a tie, a "knife" is thrown randomly. However, with this idea, more people would vote Penguin.
That is my answer.
I never seered Stormbreaker?
Still, killing a seer is never a bad idea
We can lynch a different wolf if you want. I've got 1 person I'm relatively confident about, 1 I'm kinda confident about, and then there's always Symphony, although I'm way more confident about Penguin.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 17, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
I'm confused why I'm being called a wolf?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 03:46:47 PM
Also Butanol, I get the feeling we're going to keep going in circles unless you set an end date for this day so plz end soon
I'm confused why I'm being called a wolf?
You're not, you're just an Undecided who was protected by Penguin and who I'm praying didn't actually side with the wolves and won't remember as Magician Wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Cosmic on July 17, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
Oh right, that makes more sense.
Yes I sided with the humans.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 04:02:51 PM
It is still more logical to me at least that Leia is a wolf, I don't think Penguin would "attack" himself
and it's kinda sketchy that Leia is always asking to end the day


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
It is still more logical to me at least that Leia is a wolf, I don't think Penguin would "attack" himself
and it's kinda sketchy that Leia is always asking to end the day
1. Despite all the evidence that suggests the risk was nonexistent? Despite the fact that it was riskier for Penguin to attack someone else? Despite how Leia attacking Penguin would've been equivalent to suicide?
Why?
2. Of course she wants the day to end while the votes are in her favour that's not a wolf-exclusive sentiment. Penguin is very manipulative in his arguing, so it's better for everyone if the day ends around now.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 17, 2017, 04:10:11 PM
Lynch Leia again


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 04:12:14 PM
2. Of course she wants the day to end while the votes are in her favour that's not a wolf-exclusive sentiment. Penguin is very manipulative in his arguing, so it's better for everyone if the day ends around now.
It is usually a wolf thing to do


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 04:15:32 PM
It is usually a wolf thing to do
No, it's a thing that someone survives wants to do

Also, although Wheatley's argument makes sense I actually asked to end the day because everyone keeps removing votes and then voting again and the only way to get people to just pick something is if they have a time limit


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
It is usually a wolf thing to do
1. It doesn't necessarily mean wolf though.
2. As discussed before, trend-based evidence is incredibly weak evidence, and should really only be used as a tie-breaker.

Also, once again, why is lynching Leia more logical.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 17, 2017, 04:23:34 PM
Also, once again, why is lynching Leia more logical.
1) because she was asking when the day ends since yesterday
2) Penguin would not have mentioned that he thought about attacking himself in previous games if he actually did it this time


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 17, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
1) because she was asking when the day ends since yesterday
2) Penguin would not have mentioned that he thought about attacking himself in previous games if he actually did it this time
1) Because Butanol has weird and inconsistent day times, I didn't want him to just end it all of a sudden without warning
2) Meta defenses do. not. work. if the player is aware of their own meta because they can purposely act in a different way.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 17, 2017, 04:27:20 PM
1) because she was asking when the day ends since yesterday
2) Penguin would not have mentioned that he thought about attacking himself in previous games if he actually did it this time
1. It's been a long day, I'd like to know when it's going to end as well.
2. He would, a lot of guilty people will, when defending themself, say part of the truth and pretend it was an admission on their part when actually it means nothing.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 17, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
1) because she was asking when the day ends since yesterday
2) Penguin would not have mentioned that he thought about attacking himself in previous games if he actually did it this time
1)days tend to last 24h at most, it's been loon past 24H
2) mind games.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 18, 2017, 12:22:40 AM
What is going on here?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 01:28:25 AM
Lyka - Lyka
DJ Roomba - Penguin022
Zero - Penguin022
Stormbreaker - DonutsILike
Leia - Penguin022
Symphony - Symphony x3
Penguin022 - Leia
DonutsILike - Leia
dar - dar
Punny Toasty - Leia
Lenny - Leia
SenpaiViolet - Leia
Wheatley - Penguin022

To make everything fair as I could not update before, I'll give you exactly 5 more hours and 32more minutes. I will not count a single lynch after 6:30AM, PST.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 01:47:43 AM
Hang on, I'll gather all the evidence so that people can make their final decisions.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
I would also like to request that the voting period be extended some way beyond 6:30 PST, as a large amount of players will not yet have had a chance to come online and make a final decision.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 02:47:51 AM
Here it is. All of the points from both sides, as well as rebuttals to those points. I have excluded points which have been made completely invalid (e.g. Leia being suspicious because wolves can't attack themselves is invalid because, as the host has confirmed, they can). I've also excluded the "Leia took an unnecessary risk to get Wolf MVP" thing because it's the dumbest bloop ever. I have also marked trend-based evidence in italics, as they are arguments which tend to be weaker than average. I've also put in bold 2 arguments which have not been heavily discussed despite being seemingly important. From that, I would like everyone to make a decision based upon this:

First, what is confirmed to have happened (and is relevant):
Leia claimed Seer to me at the beginning of Night 2.
I stated that I knew the Seer in my last post on Day 2.
Penguin claimed Seer publicly later that day.
Leia claimed Insomniac to Penguin soon after he publicly claimed.
Penguin got Lenny the Amnesiac to remember as Guardian sometime before the end of Night 2, so that he could guard Penguin the next night.
Lenny did as Penguin asked, and became Guardian. He also guarded Penguin Night 3.
Lenny first entered group chat with Leia at the beginning of Day 3. However, it is not known if Leia already knew that Lenny was Guardian before then.
Penguin was attacked by wolves Night 3, but was saved by Lenny.
Wolves can attack themselves if they so wish.
Penguin has had the idea of attacking himself as wolf in past TWGs, though he has never actually done it.
Both Leia's and Penguin's results are accurate.

And now, the arguments over what is not confirmed to have happened.
  • Leia is suspicious because she repeatedly said "I'm confused" throughout Day 2, a line which is common among wolves.
    • Leia rebutted this by saying that she said it because she couldn't accuse Penguin that day without dying, but didn't want to follow him because he knew he was wolf.
  • Penguin is suspicious because Leia would not have attacked Penguin if she knew that she was guarded, and, according to Leia, Penguin told her that Lenny was Guardian that night.
    • Zero rebutted this by saying that Leia could've attacked Penguin so that she could, the next day, "expose Penguin's plan" and gain the town's trust.
      • I rebutted this by saying that Leia would not have needed to take this risk, considering she already had the trust of Penguin and would soon have had the trust of Lenny.
  • Leia is suspicious because Penguin would not have taken the risk of attacking himself (Lenny could have lied).
    • Leia rebutted this by saying that Penguin would've known if Lenny had remembered as wolf due to him being a wolf himself in this scenario, and Lenny would've had no reason to guard someone else (at least, not without notifying Penguin).
    • I further rebutted this by saying that if Penguin had attacked anyone else, I would've almost certainly accused him the next day, essentially meaning that attacking someone else would've been more risky than attacking himself.
  • Penguin is suspicious because I told Leia who the Necromancer was in the middle of Night 2, meaning if Leia was a wolf, she would've killed the Necro that night instead of me, as killing me would simply have resulted in the Necro reviving me the next night, and my ability isn't the most useful.
  • Penguin is suspicious because he claimed publicly rather than messaging his role to dar, a confirmed Wolfsbane, who could then have passed his messages on, indicating he was confident that no wolf would kill him, further indicating that he is a wolf himself.
  • Leia is suspicious because she is trying to end the day with a majority in her favour.
    • Both Leia and I countered this by saying that anyone, regardless of alignment, would want the day to end good for them, as well as saying that the day has been very long and complicated and circle-shaped and it would be good to end it soon.
  • Leia is suspicious because Penguin would not have said that he had considered attacking himself in the past if he had done it this game.
    • I rebutted this by saying that this is blatantly false, and in fact the opposite is often true.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 02:50:35 AM
Please notice that all argument chains ended with Leia's side making the final argument, essentially meaning that Leia's side won all of the arguments, as well as the fact that all but one of the argument's on Penguin's side are based purely off of trends in past games, and as such, weak.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 02:55:41 AM
Please do not end the day until enough people have posted their final thoughts so that a majority can be reached, especially as many people have stated that they are not aware of the full situation, and the even ones who haven't stated such a thing probably aren't aware either. That said, Leia's and Penguin's opinions do not need to heard before ending the day as they are fairly obvious already.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 03:17:26 AM
will keep my lunch on penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 18, 2017, 04:06:19 AM
I'm impressed I don't think I've ever had someone fight this hard for me in TWG, thank you


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 18, 2017, 04:13:13 AM
Leia claimed Seer to me at the beginning of Night 2.
I stated that I knew the Seer in my last post on Day 2.
Penguin claimed Seer publicly later that day. See below
Leia claimed Insomniac to Penguin soon after he publicly claimed.
Penguin got Lenny the Amnesiac to remember as Guardian sometime before the end of Night 2, so that he could guard Penguin the next night.
Lenny did as Penguin asked, and became Guardian. He also guarded Penguin Night 3.
Lenny first entered group chat with Leia at the beginning of Day 3. However, it is not known if Leia already knew that Lenny was Guardian before then.No, I did not.
Penguin was attacked by wolves Night 3, but was saved by Lenny.
Wolves can attack themselves if they so wish.
Penguin has had the idea of attacking himself as wolf in past TWGs, though he has never actually done it.
Both Leia's and Penguin's results are accurate

One thing I just want to clarify- did Penguin PM you his role before you died? Because otherwise
Wheatley had my role before he died if that helps you out.
becomes a blatant lie.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 18, 2017, 04:16:21 AM
Leia claimed Seer to me at the beginning of Night 2.
??? But you are Leia ???


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 04:19:48 AM
One thing I just want to clarify- did Penguin PM you his role before you died?
No, no he didn't.
All the more evidence to prove Penguin is the wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Leia on July 18, 2017, 04:25:29 AM
??? But you are Leia ???
I copy-pasted from Wheatley and added stuff in bold. Wheatley is not me.

Also great, now we've got actual proof of Penguin lying.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 04:27:06 AM
??? But you are Leia ???
Lynch someone pls
Preferably Penguin


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 04:54:01 AM
Stormbreaker, page 27 pretty much explains what happened throughout day 3
now make your decision please.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 04:55:37 AM
(Spoiler: Penguin is wolf)


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 05:04:53 AM
Last 1.5 hours.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 05:05:50 AM
hm. lynch peng


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 05:09:39 AM
Last 1.5 hours.
Hardly any players have been online since you gave your warning, plus new information has since come to light that will almost certainly influence players' votes. In the interest of fairness, I strongly advise that you hold off on updating until enough people have come online and made their final decision so that there can be an accurate representation of what people's opinions are, considering new information.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 05:12:22 AM
Oh okay, Penguin has the most votes now.
Although still wait, I reckon. While Penguin has the most votes, he does not have the majority vote due to the large amount of people who have voted for neither.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 05:14:02 AM
It's a tie now not penguin majority

I'll give one more hour, this day has been long enough
 Approximately 10 pages of posts


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 05:17:29 AM
Lyka - Lyka
DJ Roomba - Penguin022
Zero - Penguin022
Stormbreaker - DonutsILike
Leia - Penguin022
Symphony - Symphony x3
Penguin022 - Leia
DonutsILike - Penguin022
dar - dar
Punny Toasty - Leia
Lenny - Leia
SenpaiViolet - Leia
Wheatley - Penguin022

Penguin022 - 5
Leia - 4
Symphony - 3
DonutsILike - 1
Lyka - 1
dar - 1

5 is not equal to 4. Perhaps you misread Lyka as voting for Leia? Their names are quite similar, after all.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 05:22:23 AM
Sorry, that must be it


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 05:54:35 AM
If we are going by trends
Last time I blindly followed Lenny, even though he was a confirmed good role, we lost because he kept lynching human roles
Don't remember the game but pretty sure it happened


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 06:20:13 AM
Fun fact: This is now the TWG with the 10th most replies.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 18, 2017, 06:31:56 AM
If we are going by trends
Last time I blindly followed Lenny, even though he was a confirmed good role, we lost because he kept lynching human roles
Don't remember the game but pretty sure it happened
I only lynched two humans that game lmao, one of which was seered red


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 07:37:17 AM
Lyka - Lyka
DJ Roomba - Penguin022
Zero - Penguin022
Stormbreaker - DonutsILike
Leia - Penguin022
Symphony - Symphony x3
Penguin022 - Leia
DonutsILike - Penguin022
dar - dar
Punny Toasty - Leia
Lenny - Leia
SenpaiViolet - Leia
Wheatley - Penguin022

Penguin022 - 5
Leia - 4
Symphony - 3
DonutsILike - 1
Lyka - 1
dar - 1
 
Penguin022 was lynched. His body was very furry k thx bye


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 3)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
told you so lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction(Night 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 07:38:23 AM
YES


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction(Night 4)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 18, 2017, 07:41:19 AM
I will die tonight anyway
GJ Wheatley btw


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 07:42:46 AM
i made the right choice it seems


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
I am a wolf.
Now you'll ask why I did reveal this. Idk, kill me.

Well that was easy


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 07:47:45 AM
That was an actual reply I got to a PM I sent to Stormbreaker asking his role, BTW.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
Stormbreaker is modkilled for gamethrowing. He is gamebanned from TWG LXXXVI


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 07:55:36 AM
He was wolf, I presume?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 18, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
was he a wolf?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 07:57:08 AM
Also, we've pretty much won since we know every blue role.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 07:57:31 AM
Penguin.

I posted too late, didn't pay attention lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 18, 2017, 07:57:38 AM
Lmfao.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 07:57:49 AM
Yes he was a wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 18, 2017, 07:58:14 AM
So.

There's one wolf left.

Or two.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: -PRoyale- on July 18, 2017, 07:59:03 AM
That was an actual reply I got to a PM I sent to Stormbreaker asking his role, BTW.
You know, I may be foolish but the fact that I just revealed my role doesn't make you an impression?
It was too easy as you just said but it should be tougher, don't you think?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 07:59:21 AM
we need to find the dauber wolf that is sure


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:00:15 AM
Would the last wolf like to just come out and speed things up? I mean, sure, you might be banned a little bit, but still.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:00:54 AM
You know, I may be foolish but the fact that I just revealed my role doesn't make you an impression?
It was too easy as you just said but it should be tougher, don't you think?
What?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:01:38 AM
this is gonna end fast


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 08:04:02 AM
"The dauber probably won't be able to use convincing illusions on itself, right?"


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:04:44 AM
I recommend lynching SenpaiViolet first, then Punny Toasty, then Lyka, then Cosmic. I think that's more or less an accurate ranking of how likely people are to be wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 08:05:03 AM
I just woke up and I had 3 pages to read jeez

also sorry Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:05:17 AM
if no then this is gonna be a fast human win. if yes then this is gonna be harder


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:06:28 AM
i quite agree with wheatley. senpai was suspicious all along with dem conspiracies


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 18, 2017, 08:07:41 AM
i quite agree with wheatley. senpai was suspicious all along with dem conspiracies
If you actually read old TWG's, I am known to do this even if they aren't on my side. You would know if you read Classic Part 2.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:08:09 AM
Although if we lynch a wolf and the game is still going, we skip to Cosmic.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 08:08:29 AM
"Now that I think about it, this man's right. I've always thought strange about how she talked"


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:09:11 AM
If you actually read old TWG's, I am known to do this even if they aren't on my side. You would know if you read Classic Part 2.
You mean the one where you were Amne who became Vig? Yeah, I don't think that's a good example.
Also, role.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 18, 2017, 08:10:29 AM
You mean the one where you were Amne who became Vig? Yeah, I don't think that's a good example.
Also, role.
Human.
I never claim Human D1 cause Human claims are always lynched. That is why I choose to keep it secret for as long as possible from now on.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 08:11:34 AM
Just saying, I'm human too but I could see why I would be lynched for thinking it was Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:12:06 AM
Human.
I never claim Human D1 cause Human claims are always lynched. That is why I choose to keep it secret for as long as possible from now on.
Okay, cool. Barring a prophetic revelation, you'll be lynched tomorrow.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
Also, I forgot to mention Zero. Zero is inbetween Lyka and Cosmic on the ranking.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 08:13:45 AM
Okay, cool. Barring a prophetic revelation, you'll be lynched tomorrow.

I forgot what that was, I only memorized one of them and that was the shortname.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:14:36 AM
Just saying, I'm human too but I could see why I would be lynched for thinking it was Leia
Well, you're mainly suspicious for this:
Well, there are literally no leads and a human claim is fairly suspicious.

But you seem trustworthy, I guess. Lynch Ataino instead for now I guess.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 18, 2017, 08:16:15 AM
Also, note that 4 people are "suspicious". Storm was Undecided, then wolf, meaning there are 2 wolves left, as there is no way he could've turned into Magician Wolf and converted someone in one night. This means half of the people here are innocent. Maybe even more.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Cosmic is undecided. You're completely wrong.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 08:19:26 AM
Also, I forgot to mention Zero. Zero is inbetween Lyka and Cosmic on the ranking.
aw i was gonna celebrate that you didn't suspect me at all ;p


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:20:52 AM
You're still the least suspicious human claim, may as well celebrate anyway.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 08:21:24 AM
"What's happening now? I just entered this conversation."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:22:08 AM
this night really should have ended already


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 08:23:24 AM
You're still the least suspicious human claim, may as well celebrate anyway.

Am I suspicious for thinking it was Leia


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:24:26 AM
this night really should have ended already
Well, Leia needs to send in a seer request, and Butanol is having some trouble with my prophecies, so...


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
Am I suspicious for thinking it was Leia
I already mentioned the main reason you were suspicious go back a page. But yes, that is a secondary reason why you are suspicious.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 08:27:37 AM
I already mentioned the main reason you were suspicious go back a page. But yes, that is a secondary reason why you are suspicious.

I'm suspicious from Penguin (the wolf) saying a human claim was fairly suspicious? Or is there something else I'm missing cause the first thing looks like a fairly dumb reason


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Faiz on July 18, 2017, 08:28:50 AM
Well, Leia needs to send in a seer request, and Butanol is having some trouble with my prophecies, so...
I am not having trouble with them, it's the side of chips that is hard


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
I'm suspicious from Penguin (the wolf) saying a human claim was fairly suspicious? Or is there something else I'm missing cause the first thing looks like a fairly dumb reason
It's that he dismissed you as "fairly trustworthy" for no apparent reason.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 08:35:26 AM
It's that he dismissed you as "fairly trustworthy" for no apparent reason.

if you want to lynch me for that little detail, its fine, I won't really care lol


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 08:35:59 AM
"I could hear something just behind this door."

"Just attack somebody, it doesn't matter who"
"Why does nobody care about our undoing? He's gonna know who we are!"
"Shh, we are masters of transformation, we'll appear anonymous"


"I could've sworn I heard a human accent. I can't really identify it, though, I'm not too familiar with everyone's voice yet."


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:40:45 AM
still waiting for day 5, im not going to do anything until it comes now on


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 18, 2017, 08:41:39 AM
Day 4*


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 18, 2017, 08:42:15 AM
oh k then


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 18, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
Cosmic is undecided. You're completely wrong.
Oh, my bad.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 18, 2017, 10:03:07 AM
I recommend lynching SenpaiViolet first, then Punny Toasty, then Lyka, then Cosmic. I think that's more or less an accurate ranking of how likely people are to be wolf.
Agreed, not to mention of his sudden defense on Penguin022 some time ago, as I assume.

Might double-check posts if I can but...


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
Agreed, not to mention of his sudden defense on Penguin022 some time ago, as I assume.

Might double-check posts if I can but...

Do you mean me?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 18, 2017, 10:19:58 AM
Senpai


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 18, 2017, 10:20:59 AM
Senpai

oh ok


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 18, 2017, 08:55:56 PM
Yes. Hentai.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 18, 2017, 08:56:32 PM
DAMNIT I MEANT SENPAI


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Saburo on July 18, 2017, 09:48:22 PM
That was hilarious


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: dar on July 18, 2017, 10:00:28 PM
Senpai it is, I guess.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 12:10:01 AM
DAMNIT I MEANT SENPAI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 02:02:46 AM
still waiting for day 4 srsly there isnt too much to do this night now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 02:34:54 AM
I thought there was this twg rule where the host has to wait 24h to end a night so people wouldn't know who the night action people were based on who was online


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 03:19:47 AM
that makes sense


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 03:20:05 AM
I thought there was this twg rule where the host has to wait 24h to end a night so people wouldn't know who the night action people were based on who was online
That's commonly accepted among hosts, but it's never actually been a rule.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 03:22:08 AM
well the timezones are definetely not the same for everyone. wheatley is about 10 hours ahead in time compared to where i live


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 19, 2017, 03:24:17 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
demmet


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 4)
Post by: Faiz on July 19, 2017, 08:01:51 AM
Wheatley was wolfed
Wheatley was also guarded

D5 now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Saburo on July 19, 2017, 08:02:22 AM
*wakes up*
What comes next?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 08:04:13 AM
Why didn't they attack Lenny

Lynch HentaiViolet


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Saburo on July 19, 2017, 08:04:55 AM
Lynch HentaiViolet


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 08:05:23 AM
isn't it day 4 now
Lunch hentai


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 19, 2017, 08:05:47 AM
Who's HentaiViolet. I just know it's not me because that's not my name.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 19, 2017, 08:13:42 AM
Also, I am human.
The only reason I protected Penguin022 was because I genuinely believed he wasn't a wolf. Although my opinion was wrong, that doesn't automatically make me a wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 08:14:31 AM
It's not like we are full of leads tho.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 19, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
It's not like we are full of leads tho.
Except for the fact that Leia hasn't posted.
Leia, if you see this, who did you seer?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 08:18:58 AM
Hang on, I got some prophecies. 1 true, 1 false:

1. Senpai is green.
2. Senpai's role is a non-killing night role.

Obviously 2 is false, because Senpai is either wolf or human. This means Prophecy 1 is true, Senpai is green. Either human, or disguised wolf.

It's still perfectly likely that he's wolf, because Disguised Wolf and Dauber Wolf were almost definitely the last two. But IDK if people want to switch or not.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 08:28:19 AM
wait uh
if symphony chose wolf, and could choose to upgrade to magician
wouldnt he be able to convert like, tonight?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
We've already established that this isn't the case.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 08:36:49 AM
Also, lynch SenpaiViolet


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 08:43:48 AM
We've already established that this isn't the case.
Wait, when?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 19, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Lynch SenpaiViolet.

I'm not sure why "HentaiViolet" words are on everyone's mouth lol.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: MariaYuki on July 19, 2017, 08:57:58 AM
Lynch SenpaiViolet.

I'm not sure why "HentaiViolet" words are on everyone's mouth lol.
BECAUSE YOU


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 19, 2017, 08:58:21 AM
DAMMIT


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 08:59:28 AM
Wait, when?
A few pages ago. I picked the humans. It's nothing exciting.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 19, 2017, 09:01:06 AM
Noted to self:
never have a bloopy autocorrect in the first place


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 09:01:51 AM
lynch senpai


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 09:27:39 AM
A few pages ago. I picked the humans. It's nothing exciting.
except that it was a wolf who found you, so it's very possible you chose wolf.
there's nothing proving which side you chose tho.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 19, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
I guess lynch Senpai


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Penguin022 on July 19, 2017, 09:47:39 AM
Literally the worst time for me to inactive. :/

Too much reading for me to read everything on previous pages but for some reason people were defending me. XD NGL this might be the first time I actually got pissed at Wheatley. I worked my bleep off with my strategy, only to be foiled by Wheatley because he was revived. I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for that meddling kid!

I'll reveal some of my strategies at the end of the game and my thoughts. But please give me credit for making this game awesome. 8)

k thx bye


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 19, 2017, 09:50:32 AM
Literally the worst time for me to inactive. :/

Too much reading for me to read everything on previous pages but for some reason people were defending me. XD NGL this might be the first time I actually got pissed at Wheatley. I worked my bleep off with my strategy, only to be foiled by Wheatley because he was revived. I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for that meddling kid!

I'll reveal some of my strategies at the end of the game and my thoughts. But please give me credit for making this game awesome. 8)

k thx bye

rip


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 19, 2017, 09:56:44 AM
lmao I am still alive
Lynch Senpai
also Symphony what's your role rn?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 09:57:59 AM
reveal at least to wheatley or lenny


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Saburo on July 19, 2017, 09:59:12 AM
You can also trust me I'm basically a blue human now


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 10:14:10 AM
except that it was a wolf who found you, so it's very possible you chose wolf.
there's nothing proving which side you chose tho.
I didn't know Penguin was a wolf when he pmed me. He told me he was the seer. I picked human. End of.


Role is Wolfsbane because it was the best of the 2 options I was given.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Faiz on July 19, 2017, 10:27:39 AM
Senpai was a wolf its n5 kbai


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 4)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
uh
this is awkward


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 19, 2017, 10:30:46 AM
ALRIGHT WHO'S THE LAST WOLF

This is going fast


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
i think it's to make up for the 3 days long D3


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
come on, you think I'd let the game end tonight?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 11:24:30 AM
almost over now...


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Saburo on July 19, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
Soon we can end this


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: memes on July 19, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
since senpai was seered green i bet we got rid of the disguised wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
Soon we can end this
you wish


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Leia on July 19, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
Just watch him be Magician Wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 05:42:59 PM
Cosmic, if you're Magician Wolf, please don't convert me or Leia
It'll be too obvious


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 5)
Post by: Faiz on July 19, 2017, 08:46:59 PM
Lenny died. D5.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Leia on July 19, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
Lynch Cosmic


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 19, 2017, 08:54:53 PM
Lynch Cosmic.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 09:31:55 PM
Lynch Cosmic


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 09:35:25 PM
Got these two prophecies:

1. The people who Cosmic will be visiting have  at least 2 vowels in their names.
2. Cosmic is visiting someone whose name contains 'e'.

Obviously, Prophecy 2 is correct, because Lenny was visited. This means that if Cosmic is Magician Wolf, he did not convert me, Leia, Zero, Punny Toasty, DonutsILike or DJ Roomba. dar and Lyka are the only two people who could be converted if Cosmic is Magician Wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
*at least more than two vowels ahhhh bleep myself
Okay, cool. So actually, Zero could also have been converted.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 19, 2017, 10:15:13 PM
Lynch Cosmic


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
This is now the 3rd most replied TWG.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
Also, Day 3 consisted of 197 replies.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kirby on July 19, 2017, 10:49:08 PM
Lynch cosmic


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Cosmic on July 19, 2017, 11:30:23 PM
are you sure you want to lynch me
i don't think that's a very good idea
you see, although I may look guilty I'm not
I visited someone because I became Seer the Wolfsbane thing was to fend off the wolves
truth is Lenny was the original guardian and the real amnesiac remembered as a wolf
that's the only way this game could be continuing right now
I'm trying to help you here
dont lynch me and I'll tell you who the real culprit is


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 19, 2017, 11:35:30 PM
No
Arme was the original guardian


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Cosmic on July 20, 2017, 12:01:19 AM
I know that story is a load of rubbish


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 12:03:06 AM
Oh okay, that was easy


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Cosmic on July 20, 2017, 12:08:34 AM
I mean too bad I'm Magician wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 12:10:02 AM
Okay cool
Lynch Zero tomorrow


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: memes on July 20, 2017, 12:32:20 AM
so what now?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 12:33:06 AM
Lynch Cosmic, obviously


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: memes on July 20, 2017, 12:34:43 AM
lynch cosmic


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kirby on July 20, 2017, 01:53:05 AM
Okay cool
Lynch Zero tomorrow
wait why me


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 01:55:20 AM
Considering Butanol hurried to make an edit to my prophecy, an edit of which its only effect was making you a possible target for conversion, you're the most likely to have been converted.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 01:57:02 AM
Although for now, lynch Cosmic, he's confirmed to be wolf and there's a small chance he was just bluffing about being Magician Wolf.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Shendelzare on July 20, 2017, 03:29:02 AM
Lynch Cosmic Energies.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Leia on July 20, 2017, 04:24:50 AM
Lmao Cosmic that post made my day


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Day 5)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 05:46:21 AM
Cosmic died. Cosmic was a wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: memes on July 20, 2017, 06:03:19 AM
yusss


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: memes on July 20, 2017, 06:04:16 AM
looks like cosmic was magician wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
Lynch Zero tomorrow.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 06:58:16 AM
Okay, lets say Zero was killed by the wolves. He himself was a wolf. I don't think this should be allowed in future games.

Humans won


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: memes on July 20, 2017, 06:58:43 AM
gg


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Night 6)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
Oh okay
Yay I guess


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 06:59:56 AM
wow


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 20, 2017, 07:00:10 AM
EZ


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 07:01:19 AM
MVPs soon. Ravine Roth was refugee, apart from that Leia got the list correct.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kirby on July 20, 2017, 07:05:19 AM
You are welcome for speeding up this crap I was gonna get lynched anyways
Also cosmic screw you for converting me


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Toooaaastyyy on July 20, 2017, 07:06:04 AM
So who the MVPs


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kirby on July 20, 2017, 07:07:29 AM
wheatley overall, penguin wolf


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 07:10:48 AM
here are my guesses
Wheatley: Overall
Penguin Wolf
Leia: HM


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: dar on July 20, 2017, 07:21:19 AM
I was probably modkilled because of this.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kirby on July 20, 2017, 07:22:51 AM
you werent modkilled?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: dar on July 20, 2017, 07:24:49 AM
I think I missed two days. What basically happened in the lounge was the days passed much quicker than 23 hours.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 07:25:41 AM
I didnt use the modkill rule as the game was active anyway


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 07:26:33 AM
We are tyring to get this past Doubles
shhhh


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 07:33:37 AM
Leia, for finding Penguin and having a good hunch about everyone's role
Cosmic for surviving and not playing straight in the enemy's hands
Penguin, for an amazing strategy that might involve almost killing one's one self
Wheatley, for a badass game.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Yay
Now just a few more replies pls


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Chiral of Doom on July 20, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
Ayy
hi


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 07:35:54 AM
Also, we just got to second.


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 20, 2017, 07:36:12 AM
gj Wheatley
gg


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 07:37:47 AM
Wait
How did HentaiViolet not get Wolf MVP?
Didn't you see his pro strats?


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: The Real Alien on July 20, 2017, 07:38:25 AM
Wait
How did HentaiViolet not get Wolf MVP?
Didn't you see his pro strats?
Stormbreaker imo


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Kowhai on July 20, 2017, 07:39:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYnvDL0Qcw


Title: Re: TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (HUMANS WIN)
Post by: Faiz on July 20, 2017, 07:40:39 AM
GG, locking