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Title: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on October 04, 2017, 06:22:09 PM
Welcome to the Official TWG Headquarters. I am Leia. This topic is for rules, FAQs, roles and game statistics related to TWG/The Werewolf Game.

The Werewolf Game (or TWG) consists of the battle between two major teams: the humans, also referred to as the town, and the wolves. The main goal of the humans is to rid the town of wolves. The main goal of the wolves is to ensure that their numbers are equal to that of the rest of the town. For example, if there are three wolves, then they would win when there are six total players left, and none of the wolves died.

At the beginning of the game, the host will PM you your role, allowing you to know your alignment and any special abilities that you may have. There are usually some unaffiliated roles that have different win conditions. These roles are commonly referred to as "Independents". Independent Biased roles are almost always killing roles that will bypass Human/Wolf wins if they are still alive at that time. Independent Unbiased roles have different win conditions completely, ranging from getting lynched to predicting who dies thrice.

The game consists of two phases. During the Night, the wolves have the opportunity to kill/"wolf" a player. Some humans have special abilities, which they can use during the Night. These abilities range from discovering the alignments of players to protecting people from wolf kills. During the Day, the players must discuss who they believe to be a wolf, and they vote/"lynch" this player.

The Werewolf Game is an intense lying game about trust and outwitting the other side. Wolves need to be quick-witted to avoid detection, and humans need to be shifty to see through the wolves' façades. We hope that you will enjoy the game! We recommend reading up on at least one past game before starting to get an idea of some strategies, or you can read the Tips & Tricks section.

Humans
-Look for any suspicious or unusual behaviour from your fellow players. If you see something strange, pick up on it and alert your fellow players.
-Make sure to pick up on everyone's strategies. An inactive player might be a wolf blending in, and a bold player might be a wolf trying to misdirect the humans.
-Claim as early as possible. If the wolves happen to kill say, the Seer on Night 1, then one of them can pretend that they're the Seer. You want as much information as possible.
-If you're not a power role, act like you are. The humans have to lose someone each night, and would you rather a normal Human goes, or the Guardian?
-Most importantly, make your voice heard! Bring up anything suspicious that others may have missed. Don't be afraid to list all of your leads.

Wolves
-Many humans don't want to rock the boat too much. If you and your wolves are able to start a bandwagon on someone and make it sound legitimate, then many people would be willing to just go along with it.
-Inactive players are never useful to the town. If they can't find someone suspicious, then an inactive player is the next best thing. Always be as active as possible.
-Remain calm. Humans have no reason to get riled up by lynch votes, so why do you?
-Keep track of your lies and misdirection. If you mess up, someone will spot it. Be ready to justify your lies, and don't back off when someone challenges you.

Independent Biased
-Don't become a target. Independent Biased roles will quickly be lynched or killed if their identity is discovered.
-Use your ability wisely. Independent Biased roles usually have a limited amount of kills. If you kill two people right at the start and can't do it again, it might end up costing you the game.
-Deflect suspicion whenever possible. Read up on wolf strategies for how to do this. Get inactive players lynched, make up a lie and pretend to be another role.

Independent Unbiased
This faction has such a wide variety of win conditions that it is difficult to provide tips for them. Some even want to die, while others don't. If you need help with an Independent Unbiased role when you get one, don't be afraid to ask the host for help.

How do I host?
PM your game idea (with a complete role list and name) to Qazikol, the owner of the TWG Bidding Topic. It will soon enter the queue and be voted on by TWG players in that topic. If you need help creating a bid, check here (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1800651#msg1800651) for a comprehensive guide on how to bid a game.

How do I play?
Sign up for the next game, and if you need help and/or tips, the spoilers above this one will give you insight for that. Click here (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1800645#msg1800645) under 'Successful Bids' for a list of upcoming games.

Who is hosting the next game?
Check here (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.msg1800645#msg1800645) under 'Successful Bids' to find a complete list of past and upcoming games.

How can I play if someone has ignored me?
It is the responsibility of the host to relay all messages between players who have someone on their ignore list. Do not be afraid to join in even if someone has blocked you.

Why do some games have 2 hosts, while other games only have 1?
Sometimes, an experienced host will choose to mentor a player who has never hosted before. If you would like to mentor or be mentored, check here (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35351.msg1876454#msg1876454) to see if you qualify and learn about upcoming opportunities. Other times, hosts could want a partner to host with for fun or if the host is busy in real life.

The following links are important if you wish to get more involved in the TWG community. Rules, Roles and Statistics are in this topic, just a few posts below.

TWG Bidding Topic (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23686.0)
TWG Community Poll (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25155.0)
TWG Rules (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35940)
TWG Roles (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35940)
TWG Statistics (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35940)
Ultra Ultra TWG Roles Tournament (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35916.0)


Title: Rules
Post by: Leia on October 26, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
Rules

Do not post in the game thread if you are dead. You may make one post after you die, but after that you are not allowed to post. Breaking this rule will result in 1 gameban.

Editing posts is never allowed, even if it's editing a typo. If you want to edit a typo or anything in your post, just post again.

Do not post any PM conversations with the Host in the thread. You may paraphrase, but directly quoting or screenshoting will result in a modkill.

Try to Win. Gamethrowing, or purposely trying to make your team lose, is never allowed. If you make your side lose on purpose, then you will be modkilled and gamebanned from the next TWG.

If you're dead, STAY dead. With the exception of having a specific gimmick in the game, dead people must stay dead. You can have one last-post to write anything you want, but after that, you can not PM any living players, post anything in the game thread, or post anything with game-related content in the lounge. Breaking this rule will result in one gameban.
Furthermore, living people can't talk to dead people in real life, so living players can't talk to dead players in the game. This means no PMing dead players once they've died. (This includes PMing the Maniac on who they should kill after they die). Doing so will result in a modkill and a gameban.

Try to be active during the game. Whenever a game starts, the host sends out a confirmation PM to all players. Anyone who doesn't respond to the PM or do anything in-game within 3 real life days will be replaced by someone on a list of overflow sign-ups. However, if there is no one on the list, the player is modkilled. Furthermore, if you have signed up for the game only to realize that you won't be able to commit to being active due to real life issues, you may replace out if you have a reason deemed valid by the host.

PM the Host all TWG related conversations. As a Host, we choose an MVP at the end. If you don't give us your thoughts, we assume you did nothing and you cannot get MVP.


Title: Games Played
Post by: Bandero on November 07, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
Here are the number of games each player has played: (updated to TWG CIV)

Hamilton - 85
Sodium Chloride - 82
Kowhai - 83

Lenny - 71

Harrington - 65
Leia - 64
Niko - 63
Prem - 61

Penguin022 - 59
Futaba Sakura - 54
Nickito - 51
KitKatastrophic - 50

Saburo - 43
Everilyfel - 40

Kangablue - 39
Flipfan Oofis - 39
Rachel Amber - 37
Natayla - 36
Panda-Chu - 33
JustHereForKCP - 32
Red - 31
AuroraLights - 31
Zetsubeau - 31
Kiefer - 30

!!Vinny927 - 29
Shuichi Saihara - 27
Sent - 26
Ryuji - 26
trash - 23
Black Hole - 21
Ariana - 20
PixelHunter - 20

Keeza Andrews - 19
Bang - 19
_Neptune - 17
Toasty - 17
Raven - 17
The Spy - 16
Natsuki - 15
Bandero - 15

border - 14
HG - 13
Napstablook - 13
4 Magic Fanatic - 12
Excalibur - 12
RagemZuru - 11
cypher - 10
Dark-Knight - 10
Sheep guy - 10
CursedSkylark - 10

memes - 9
magicmusic - 9
IchiRuki - 8
Blatant Wolf - 8
Smaartii_Paants - 7
SupremePizza - 7
Paramore - 6
MatiN - 6
Lollipop - 6
TheLionKing - 6
RoastedCopperGuy - 6
Gato - 6

Blast Burn - 6
JakeZ - 5
MarkiplierFana! - 5
Jules - 5
Lpcarver - 4
Morenatsu - 4
All Over Pink - 4
\_MegaDragonite_/ - 4
~Luka.Loveblood~ - 4
Golden.Chocolate - 4

AskJoe - 3
Hajime - 3
Rossome - 3
SaucyKing - 3
Vector - 3
Faith.xoxo - 2
The Perrin Sequence - 2
Watermelon - 2
Tangerine - 2
Rainbow Rocket - 2
CoolABlaster - 2
Crytongal - 2
AsadoCooperFan - 2
arachnidsGrip - 2
The Baconmaster - 2

Snowman Sean - 1
humanbeing2000 - 1
Aleister Black - 1
ColinMedia6 - 1
susheriafan - 1
ElectricAngel - 1
1033Forest - 1
Choconilla - 1
Maximus198 - 1
Skye - 1
Park Jinyoung - 1
Momo-senpai - 1
DryShyGuy - 1
BloxxerofNoobs - 1
LaserLance - 1
Fliptropica - 1
datoofboiiii - 1
Choco~Loco - 1
Ixora - 1
Coopah - 1
flarp - 1
geniuskid11111 - 1
Mint Cherry - 1
iMint - 1
Zartaushat - 1
Chicha Lover - 1
gimmicks - 1
Gaster - 1
minecraftmaster1.0 - 1
Ace Trainer - 1
PokeCake - 1



Title: TWG Roles Part I
Post by: Nickito on November 22, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
The Town wins when all of the Wolves and Biased Independents are killed.
Bomb - When visited, kills their visitor and themselves. Thinks they're Human.
Cirno - Switches to a new green role each night.
Gentleman - Lynch vote counts for 2.
Human - Has no special ability.
Infected Human - If the Alien dies, the Infected Human will start using double oxygen. Thinks they're Human. Only in games with Alien.
Insomniac - Sees who visits them at night.
Knot Expert - Will not die the first time they receive the most lynch votes.
Lackey - Knows one blue role.
Lovers - Come in pairs. When one Lover is killed, the other dies as well.
Mason - A Human who appears red in Seer checks. Thinks they're Human.
Master - When the Master is meant to be killed, the Bodyguard will die instead. Always present with Bodyguard.
Mayor - Knows 2 Humans.
Millers - Come in groups, each Miller knows all other Millers.
Patient - Will die Night 5 if not immunised by the Doctor. Thinks they're Human. Only in games with Doctor.
Proxy - A Human who appears red in Seer checks and guilty in Apprentice checks. Thinks they're Human.
Soldier - If the Soldier would die, the attacker dies instead. The Soldier dies the next night.
Watchdog - Twice per game, can go on watch. They cannot die, and they will know everyone who visits them.
Wrathful - A Human who appears guilty in Apprentice checks. Thinks they're Human.
Angakkuq - 3 times per game, can revive one dead player for two cycles. After the cycles are up they will die again.
Astrophysicist - Each night, can choose to restore oxygen. One oxygen unit per every 2 non Alien players, rounded down, is given out. Can only restore up to 15 oxygen units. Only in games in space.
Baker - Gives out bread to prevent starvation. Only in games with starvation.
Engineer - Each night, can choose to either build or upgrade a building. A list of buildings can be found here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20592.0)
Guide - Each night, can guide someone through the desert storm. Only in games with a storm.
Jock - Each night, prevents someone from using their ability.
Judge - Once per game, can change the lynch result to any other player. Their lynch vote counts for 2. The identity of the Judge is public.
Lunatic - Guilty, can survive the first attack on them. Thinks they're a Wolfsbane.
Necromancer - Can revive one dead player.
Nurse - Knows the Doctor. Only in games with Doctor.
Painter - Can change someone's colour each night, different in each game.
Politician - Each night, chooses to double the amount of votes someone casts the next day. This stacks with other vote multipliers such as the Gentleman. Their target knows their vote has been doubled.
Priest - Can request topics to receive prophecies on. The types of prophecies are up to the host.
Psychic - Once per game, can change the target of the Wolves. Anyone can be targetted, including Wolves. The attack will go through as usual (i.e Wolfsbane would still survive).
Rudolph - Knows who Santa is. Only in games with Santa.
Spirit Medium - 3 times per game, can revive someone. When they revive someone, the Spirit Medium dies. If the revived role and the Spirit Medium agree, the revived role dies again, and the Spirit Medium is alive again. Only in games with ghosts.
Tester - Each day, chooses a player to upgrade. The upgrades only last one phase. A list of upgrades can be found here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25409.0)
Tide Chimer - Once per game can shift the tides, causing everyone who didn't cast a vote to vote with them.
Time Lord - Once per game, can skip or repeat a shift. If killed during an Odd Shift, the next Odd Shift is skipped over. Only in games with time shifts.
Town Backup - On Night 1, chooses one of the other blue roles in the game. If they do not choose, a random role is selected for them. If this blue role dies, the Town Backup becomes this role.
Transporter - Can swap two players. Any actions performed on Player 1 will go to Player 2 and vice versa.
Wolfsbane - Immune to the first attack by the Wolves.
Angel - When a blue role is about to be lynched, the Angel will save them.
Antivirus - 3 times per game, can make a player immune to becoming a Virus. Only in games with Virus.
Bodyguard - When the Master is meant to be killed, the Bodyguard will die instead. Always present with Master.
Doctor - Each night gives someone immunity to infection, gasoline, and poison.
Guardian - Each night, can choose a player to guard. Whoever they choose cannot be killed by most other roles.
Lawyer - 3 times per game, can turn a player into a Knot Expert. They keep their other abilities.
Mercenary - Each night, can choose a player to protect. When the player is about to be killed, the Mercenary and the player who tried to kill their target die.
Pharaoh - 3 times per game, can turn a player into a Wolfsbane. They keep their other abilites.
Security - Each night, can choose a player to protect. When the player is about to be killed, the Security dies instead.
Shielder - Gives out a shield each night which will protect from bombs for 2 days. Only in games with bombs.
Apprentice - Each night can choose to see one player's alignment.
Confused Seer - Thinks they are Seer, but sees red results as blue, blue results as green, and green results as red.
Coroner - Receives the colour of each dead player.
Detective - Each night checks one player to see if they are the Traitor. Only in games with the Traitor.
Elf - Receives two PMs from the Wolf discussion at the end of the night, with all names censored.
Fail Coroner - Thinks they are Coroner, but receives a random colour for each dead player.
Fail Seer - Thinks they are Seer, but receives a random colour each night.
Gossip - Each night, chooses two targets, and receives the role of one of them.
Investigator - Each night chooses a player, and receives a list of roles. Their target is one of these roles.
Lenny's Detective - 3 times per game, can see the roles of the players who lynched the target the previous day, but not which role belongs to who.
Patrol - Watches a target to see who they visit and who visits them.
Santa - Twice per game can check if a player is 'naughty' or 'nice'.
Seer - Each night can choose to see one player's colour.
Superintendent - Twice per game, can check if a player is good (green/blue) or bad (black/red).
Stalker - Each night follows a player to see who they visit.
Surfer - Learns the identity of a town member every 3 nights.
Warden - Each night can check a player. They will know eveyone who visits that player.
Bomber - Gives someone a bomb which will explode in 2 days each night.
Brutal Demon - When lynched, will kill a player.
Cop - Can shoot 3 players in the game, 1 per night, from Night 2 onwards. Kills themself if they shoot a blue role.
Gunsmith - Has 2 guns to give out. Each night can choose to give a player a gun. This player can choose to shoot someone the next day. Everyone knows who shoots who.
Lion Tamer - Can kill up to 3 times per game. Loses their ability if they kill a Human or the Monster.
Psycho - Once per game, can activate Psycho Mode. Anyone who visits them that night will die.
Sniper - Can kill each night from Night 2 onward.
Veteran - Can kill someone each night. Starts with 3 ammo. Everytime they kill someone their amount of ammo increases or decreases depending on the role next to their victim's name. Ammo is not used up if the target does not die. If their ammo goes below 0, they die.
Wanderer - Can kill 2 players per game. If they kill a blue role they die that night, and if they kill a green role, they can't shoot the next night and they die the night after that.
Witch - Once per game, can kill a player and everyone who visits them.
The Wolves win when the amount of Wolves is greater or equal to the amount of other players. The Wolves all know each other.
Brutal Wolf - When lynched, will kill a player.
Despair Wolf - When killed at night, everyone who visited them that night will die.
Idiot Wolf - When a Town Investigative role checks the Idiot Wolf, they will learn its exact role.
Sea Wolf - If the Wolves kill the Surfer while the Sea Wolf is alive, the Wolves will kill twice the following night. Only in games with Surfer.
Wolf - Has no special ability.
Arctic Wolf - Can revive a dead wolf. The dead wolf will only count toward the ratio and communicate in PMs, they cannot post in the game topic. If the Arctic Wolf is killed the revived wolf will die as well. When the Arctic Wolf is lynched it is revealed publicly.
Confrere Wolf - Once per game, can check a player. If the player has a special ability, the Confrere Wolf will be able to use it once. The original player will not lose any uses of their role.
Cowardly Wolf - Twice per game, can protect themselves from all attacks. The Wolves lose if the Cowardly Wolf is the only Wolf alive.
Decoy Wolf - Blocks a player from using their ability each night.
Hypnowolf - 3 times per game, can choose a player to hypnotize. This player does the opposite of their role.
Magician Wolf - One night from Night 5 onward, can choose to convert one player into a Normal Wolf.
Psychotic Wolf - Each night, chooses a target. The target will visit themselves. The target will not be told they visited themselves.
Soul Wolf - 3 times per game, chooses a target. If their target dies, they will not become a ghost, and will be completely dead. Only in games with ghosts.
Townsbane Wolf - Survives the first attack on them by a Town Killing role.
Trickster Wolf - Twice per game, can swap the abilities and attributes of two players for two nights.
 Players will know that they have been swapped.
Eidetic Wolf - Sees who visits them at night.
Elder Wolf - Twice per night, can check if a player is innocent or guilty. Doesn't know the Wolves.
Espionage Wolf - Each night follows a player to see who they visit.
Inspector Wolf - Each night chooses a player, and receives a list of roles. Their target is one of these roles.
Wolf Shaman - Each night can choose to see one player's colour.
Dauber Wolf - Can change the colour of any player. Dauber Wolf rules depend on the host.
Disguised Wolf - Appears green in Seer checks.
Rascal Wolf - Appears innocent in Apprentice checks.
Traitor - Counts as a Wolf in the Town:Wolf ratio, but doesn't know the Wolves, and the Wolves don't know them. Can't be killed by the Wolves. Won't be revealed as Traitor upon death.


Title: TWG Roles Part II
Post by: Nickito on November 22, 2017, 02:46:25 PM
Independent roles have their own goals to win. Biased independents win by themselves, while Unbiased Independents win with others.
Alien - 3 times per game, can choose to revive someone. The revived player uses up oxygen twice as quickly. The Alien chooses their colour Night 1. The Alien does not use oxygen, and cannot be killed at night. The Alien wins if the oxygen runs out. Only in games in space.
Arsonist - Each night, can choose to either douse someone or ignite. When they ignite, everyone doused on a previous night is killed. The Guardian protects from dousing, but not igniting. Wins if they are one of the last two remaining.
Assassin - Can kill every night, wins if they are the last player standing.
Blackmailer - 3 times per game, can blackmail a player. This player cannot vote the next day, and they are given 3 self votes. This is public. Wins if they make it to the end.
Bounty Hunter - Assigned a specific role as a target at the start of the game. Can kill 2 players. Wins if they kill their target themselves, loses if their target lives or their target dies another way.
Clairvoyant - Each night, chooses two targets. The first target will use their action on the second target. Wins if they make it to the end.
Clockmaker - Has a clock that starts at 6:00. They kill a player each night. Their clock will be affected by the number assigned to their target's role by the host. Wins if their clock reaches 12:00. Dies if their clock goes past 12. The time is public.
Infector - 3 times per game, can infect a player. If they are green, they die. If they are red or black, nothing happens. If they are blue, their actions will not work normally. Wins if they successfully infect someone 4 times.
Lenny's Bomber - 3 times per game, can kill a player and everyone who visits them.
Monster - Every odd night, can kill a player and everyone who visits them.
Murderer - Once per game, can kill 2 people in a single night. Wins if they make it to the end.
Ninja - 3 times in the game, can kill 1 player at night. Cannot be seen by Patrol. Wins if they make it to the end. Only in games with Patrol.
Pathogen - On Night 1, chooses a target. That target is infected with the Pathogen Curse. Everyone who visits the target or is visited by the target will be infected with the Pathogen Curse. When over 60% of the game is infected, the Pathogen can kill 2 players on separate nights. The Pathogen chooses their colour Night 1. Wins if they complete the curse and make it to the end.
Phantom - Each night, can force someone into the desert. There is a 75% chance that their target dies, and a 25% chance they are role blocked. Wins if they make it to the end.
Poisoner - 3 times per game, can poison a player. That player will die the next night. Their targets do not know they are poisoned. Wins if they make it to the end.
Poltergeist - 3 times per game, can cause a distraction around a player. That player, the player directly above, and the player directly below their target on the sign ups list will visit each other. Players know they have been distracted. Wins if they make it to the end.
Reverser - 3 times per game, can reverse a target. If their target tries to use an ability, the player the target's ability is targeting will use the ability on the Reverser's target, and the Reverser's target will use the ability of the player they targeted on the player they targeted. Wins if they make it to the end.
Riddler - On two different nights after Night 2, can choose someone. That person has 2 guesses of who Riddler is. If that person is right, Riddler dies. If they are wrong, they and a person the Riddler chooses dies. Wins if they make it to the end.
Sniper - Each night, can target someone. Certain roles will die when targeted, others will be roleblocked. The host will provide a list. Wins if they make it to the end.
Sun God - 3 times in the game, can kill a player during the Day. Wins if they make it to the end.
Sun Lord - 4 times in the game, can kill a player during the Day. Wins if they make it to the end.
Terrorist - On Night 1, kills a player and learns their colour. From then on, they kill someone each odd night, and check someone each even night. Wins if they make it to the end after killing two people of the same alignment.
Trapper - 3 times in the game, can trap a player during the day. This player will die the next day. The Guardian can guard against being trapped, but not dying in a trap. Wins if they make it to the end.
Vigilante - 3 times in the game, can kill 1 player at night. Wins if they make it to the end.
Virus - Each night they turn another player into a Virus. The Viruses win when everyone in the game is a Virus.
Wizard - After Day 3, can create one Tempest, killing one player of their choice and one random player. Wins if they make it to the end.
Amnesiac - Once per game, can remember the role of a dead player. They will become that role and take that role's win condition.
Anarchist - Each night, chooses to add someone to their pool, or replace someone in the pool. When the Anarchist wins, the players in the pool switch roles. The pool can hold 2 people at once. Wins if they are lynched with a full pool.
Cheater - Each night, the Cheater chooses a target. This target has two extra self votes the next day, and their lynch vote will not count. This is not announced to anyone. Wins if their target is lynched at least three times, and does not need to be alive to win.
Cronie - Each night, chooses a player. All actions performed on that player are also performed on the Cronie. Wins if they make it past Night 4.
Executioner - Has a list of players. If everyone on that list is lynched, they will win. If one of their targets is killed at night, they are replaced.
Fool - Wins when lynched.
Heretic - The Heretic thinks they are a Wolfsbane. They will survive the first attack on them from anyone. They win if they are killed at night. The Heretic does not win if lynched. When the Heretic dies it is revealed.
Hunter - The first time they are wolfed, they will survive and kill two players. Wins if they make it to the end.
Knight - Protects someone from all attacks each night. The second time the Knight successfully protects against an attack, the attacker and the Knight both die, and the Knight wins. The Knight cannot protect Town Protective roles.
Maniac - When lynched, kills one player. Wins if they are lynched.
Masochist - When they are killed at night, they kill their attacker. Wins if they kill someone.
Optometrist - Once per game, can convert a player into a Seer (if town) or Wolf Shaman (if wolf). If they try to convert anything else, they become a Fool. Joins the team of the player they convert. Will not learn the Wolves if they convert a Wolf.
Oracle - Each night, predicts who will be lynched the next day. Each day, predicts who will be killed the next night. Wins if at least 3 predictions are correct.
Pirate - 5 pieces of treasure are scattered around players' houses. The Pirate obtains treasure by visiting a house with treasure. They win if they receive 3 pieces of treasure.
Potion Maker - Each day, can choose to power up another player during the night. A list of power ups can be found here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24396.0) Each role has a power up specific to it. Wins if they make it to the end.
Refugee - 4 times in the game, can put on a vest. They cannot be killed when they use their vest. Wins if they make it to the end.
Reverter - 3 times per game, can 'revert' a player. They will become a Human, a Wolf, or a Fool, depending on their alignment. Wins if they make it to the end.
Scientist - 3 times per game, can change the weather for one night. The types of weather directly benefit or hurt the town or wolves. Each type of weather can be used only once. Read about the types of weather here. (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20355.0) Wins if they make it to the end.
Stranger - Once per game, kills a player and steals their role. The Stranger takes on role of their target, including all attributes and the win condition.
Student - Each night, receives 3 random roles. The Student can choose to become one of these roles, or pass and wait for more roles. They take the abilities, colour, and win condition of the new role.
Succubus - Has a randomly assigned target who is part of the town. On odd nights, they can kill someone. On even nights, they can roleblock someone. The first time they visit their target, they will guard them from all attacks. If their target is killed, they will die at the end of the next night. If their target is killed and revived, the Succubus is also revived, but they can no longer win. Wins if they and their target both make it to the end.
Supplier - Once per game, can give supplies to a role. This role gains one extra use of their ability (for example, the Necromancer can revive a second time). Wins if they make it to the end and used their ability.
Thief - Once per game, steals the role of a player. That player loses all attributes and abilities but their colour and alignment is the same. The Thief takes on role of their target, including all attributes and the win condition.
Undecided - Has 2 nights to decide if they will become a Human or a Wolf. On Night 4, they will be given the option to upgrade to one of two random roles given to them by the host.
Unstable - On odd days, the Unstable acts like a Maniac. On even days, they act like a Fool.
Zombie - When lynched, kills one player that voted to lynch them. Wins if lynched.


Title: TWG Roles Part III
Post by: Nickito on November 23, 2017, 11:07:56 AM
Some roles are either in 3rd party teams, or are exclusive to a certain game format. They will be listed here.
The Cult wins if they make up a large enough portion of the town. When a role is converted, they sometimes keep their abilities, but they now work for the Cult.
Cult Leader - Each night, chooses a player to convert to the cult.
Cultist - A normal member of the Cult.
The Circus wins if all of their members die before the game ends.
Confused Clown - Appears red in Seer checks.
Clown - Has no special ability.
Ring Leader - Each night, can make the action of one player go to them.
Trapeze Artist - Can change someone's colour each night. The host decides how paint works.
Brutal Gangster - Red Brutal Wolf
Gangster - Red Human
Murderous Gangster - Red Vigilante
Artist - Blue Human
Confident - Green Human
Guardian Angel - Orange Human
Gravedigger - Purple Human
Divitae Human - Orange Human with Divitae
Divitae Mayor - Knows 2 Divitae Humans.
Divitae Guardian - Can only protect someone 3 times.
Divitae Seer - Can only look at someone's colour 3 times.
Natura Human - Human with Natura.
Natura Mayor - Knows 2 Natura Humans.
Natura Guardian - Can only protect someone 3 times.
Natura Seer - Can only look at someone's colour 3 times.
Flandre Scarlet - Checks one player per night. If the player is Remilia Scarlet, they die.
Reimu Hakurei - Can shoot 2 players per game.
Remilia Scarlet - Can kill one player, and learns their role. Wins if a Reimu Hakurei is dead, dies if Sakuya Izayoi dies.
Sakuya Izayoi - Survives first attack from the Wolves. Wins with Remilia Scarlet, dies if Remilia Scarlet dies.
Batman: Guardian, knows Robin.
Robin: Psycho, knows Batman.
Batgirl: Investigator
Commissioner Gordon: Cop
Alfred: Immune to the first attack on them, keeps ability if converted.
Lucius Fox: Each night chooses someone to heal. If they are poisoned or doused, they will be un-poisoned or un-doused, and will be notified so.
Falcone: Wolf, immune to direct attacks (Cop, vigilante, assassin, etc.)
Victor Zsasz: Same as Falcone, except not immune.
Maroni: Wolf version of the investigator.
Mad Hatter: Decoy Wolf, keeps ability if converted.
The Penguin: Vigilante
Poison Ivy: Poisoner
Firefly: Arsonist, immune to direct attacks.
Two-Face: Every other night, can kill someone, and everyone else who visits them. Is immune to attacks that night.
Catwoman: Amnesiac, can't remember as Riddler or Two-Face. If they remember as Cult Leader, they will become a Cultist.
Joker: Maniac
Commissioner Loeb: Refugee, keeps ability if converted.
Court of Owls Leader: Cult Leader, dies if they attempt to convert Batman. Cannot convert Two-Face or Riddler.
Court of Owls Member: Cultist
Snow roles want to kill Water roles, Fire roles want to kill Snow roles, and Water roles want to kill Fire roles. Players do not know their team mates.
Cop
Snow Human
Snow Necromancer
Snow Wolf
Fire Human
Fire Necromancer
Fire Wolf
Guardian
Seer
Water Human
Water Necromancer
Water Wolf
Video Games had a RED Team and a BLU Team. Each team was identical, and consisted of the roles listed below.
Demoman - Has two different forms, which he can change between at will:
Demoman - Mercenary. If what's attacking his guarded target is a Sentry Gun, the Demoman will survive, and destroy all active enemy Engineer buildings.
Demoknight - Poisoner, except can poison each night (well, each night when in Demoknight form).
Heavy - Vigilante. Immune to first attack on him.
Engineer - Each night, can do one of two things:
1. Place a building. Can only build one of each building. List of buildings below.
2. Upgrade a building. Upgrading increases the amount of people the building targets. Each building can only be upgraded twice, and will not retain upgrades when rebuilt after being destroyed.
Medic - Guardian. If he successfully guards someone, he can revive a teammate at any time, though he will not gain extra revives if he has not used his first one.
Pyro - Arsonist. Immune to being doused. If attacked by Soldier or Demoman (when not in Demoknight form) has a 50% chance of surviving and killing the attacker instead.
Scout - Warden. Can visit two people each night. Cannot use teleporters
Sniper - Each night, can attack someone. If target is a Scout, Engineer, Medic, Sniper or Spy, they will die. If target is a Soldier, Pyro, Heavy or Demoman, they will be severely wounded, meaning they will not be able to do anything for the following day and night.
Soldier - Monster.
Spy - Seer. Will appear as the opposite team in enemy Spy checks, and is immune to Sentry Guns. If doused, will lose immunity to Sentry Guns and will appear normally in enemy Spy checks.
In this game, the Wolves and Humans switch names, so the Wolves are trying to take down a small group of Humans. Their win conditions also switch.
Wolf- Just a normal wolf, nothing special.
Wolf Cub- Knows all other Wolf Cubs. (Like Miller)
Pack Leader- Knows one random wolf on their team and the original Howler.
Secret Agent- On the humans team, however shows up red in the wolf shamon/seer's checks. Knows they are the secret agent.
Wolf Shaman
Dauber Wolf
Bomberwolf- Can throw an explosive at a player at any time, once throughout the game. The next player to visit the player dies with the player that had the explosive thrown at him.
Healer Wolf- Can revive one player throughout the game.
Psycho Wolf- Goes into Psycho mode once per game which kills any players who visit them.
Howler- Every night, the howler must howl at a player of their choice (A night won't end until both the howl and the lynching happens). If the player is a human, the howler turns back into a normal wolf, and the human is informed that somebody howled at them, they don't know who though. If the howler howls at a wolf, then the wolf and the howler switch roles completley. Both players are informed, and the new howler howls the next night. Both players keep their color however. If the howler howls at the Amnesiac, the howler dies with the lynchee. This is the other way the howl can be completley lost. The Amnesiac cannot remember the howler.
Human
Seer
Warden- In this version, the warden is just informed when they are visited.
Wolf Mason- A normal wolf that shows up green. (Mason) Thinks he's a normal wolf.
In Ghost Story, players become ghosts when they die. Ghosts cannot send PMs (Wolves can still talk) or lynch, but they can post in the topic. Some roles have new abilitites after death.
Ghost Seer - Twice per game, can perform a seer check on a living person. This check has a 20% chance to be incorrect
Ghost Warden - Once a game, can choose a position on the sign-ups list to stand. The Dead Warden will then be told who crossed that position (visits someone on the other side of the sign-ups list) that night.
Ghost Guardian - Three times a game, can protect a living person from the Soul Wolf
Ghost Cop - Once per game, can spook someone, preventing them from performing their night action or lynching for a single day/night.
Ghost Stalker - 3 times a game, can choose someone at daytime. That person's vote then counts twice for that day.
Ghost Spirit Medium - Has the death-role of whoever they resurrected last. If they never resurrected someone, they have no special ability.

Ghost Brutal Wolf - Once a game, can target any dead person, causing them to lose their death-ability for 2 days and 2 nights.
Ghost Soul Wolf - Once per game, can spook someone, preventing them from performing their night action or lynching for a single day/night.
Lyka's Time had players receive a character. Each character has different attributes, listed below.
Morrigan "Martha" Witherwood: Is an unstable demonic hybrid who is also a human, but is banned from going on rampage unless is a Wolf. If lynched, this person will haunt one player into committing suicide, and another person will be chosen randomly to commit suicide. In addition to this, she knows Rodrigo Mizanin, even the role. Is not a Brutal Wolf.
Rodrigo Mizanin: Is a hopeless man who will do whatever it takes for his mistress or his so-called "queen". Knows who was Martha, even the role. Will side accordingly to Martha's role. However, there is a 50% chance that he cannot be given light or an upgrade starting Day 1. Is not a Traitor.
Catherine Darklust: Is whom ticks on time, also has demonic powers inside. Is already given light. If Guide visited them, nothing happen, but will render the Guide gave them light. Is not Tinker nor Guide.
Corey Juno: Is from the Grosvenorian planet and knows tinkering. Is already upgraded. If Tinker visited them, nothing happen, but will render the Tinker really upgraded them. Is not Tinker nor Guide.
Soraya Mizumi - Is a good lawyer debutted first at Cortonith Island. Has one Wolfsbane-like protection against Assassin attacks. Is not an Assassin.
Sergei Yamarov - Is a good mercenary who has good outfit on black. Has one Wolfsbane-like protection against Bounty attacks. Is not a Bounty Hunter.
Shiro Maizono - Is an undercover police officer who was a mentor of Martha's. Has one Wolfsbane-like protection against Wolf attacks. Is not a Wolf.
Lloyd Llarn - Is a guy who is bald but brash and brutal. Has one Wolfsbane-like protection against any attack.
Hector Lombardi - Is a godfather who uses shades to hide his epic girly eyes. Has one time to attack twice instead of once for Wolves. Is a Wolf.
Stella Sinque - Is a Cowardly Wanderer. Like an Insomniac, but receives the character name of who visited, instead. Is not a Wolf (excluding Cowardly Wolf).
Glesie Strauss - Is a soldier from elsewhere. If protected by a Rogue Knight by his final stance of protection, he won't die. Is not a Rogue Knight.
Arthur Cortonith - Is a Mayor of Cortonith Island. Starting Day 5, his vote count sparks into two votes instead of one. Is an Independent.
Benson Smalls - Is a Soccer player. Can use his ball once per night, to stun someone from doing their job. Attacks against Rogue roles does nothing.
Lionel Frenchlight - Is a Detective. Can investigate to know a single clue about their real character. Visiting Mizanin is really Mizanin. However, visiting Martha, Lyka or Soraya will revoke his powers, and he cannot investigate again.
Gillian Redsox - Is a survivor from the Deathlock incident that was unintentionally caused by other people, though Gillian knows what happened. Has one chance to escape lynching (basically Knot Expert).
April Ann Farrington - Is a Teacher from somewhere else. Has 50% chance of getting light at Night 1 due to her knowledge. Is a Humans of Benign character.
Enzo N. Avi - Is an innovative assistant of Tester McDonnell. Has 50% chance of getting an upgrade at Night 1 due to his eccentric attitude. Is a Humans of Justice character.
Srdjan Dongers - Is a n00b murderer who wields toy knife which does nothing anyway. Has no additional powers. Is an Independent.
Julia Witherwood - Is from Witherwood Mansion of TWG LI. Has 50% chance of being Inuit. The rest of 50% chance of being a Bomb that only triggers to a killer. Is from Humans team.
Errol Mitanio - Is exiled from his crew, but hoping to survive to rejoin his crew. This guy always has the treasure to be visited by a Pirate for. Is not a Pirate.
Ayako Witherwood - Is from Witherwood Mansion of TWG LI. Is basically an Elf role. Is from Humans team.


Title: TWG Roles Part IV
Post by: Nickito on November 23, 2017, 02:00:28 PM
Human - 96
Seer - 89
Guardian - 85
Wolf - 84
Disguised Wolf - 80
Brutal Wolf - 78
Mason - 77
Wolfsbane - 48
Amnesiac - 47
Necromancer - 47
Coroner - 43
Millers - 35
Vigilante - 34
Wolf Shaman - 31
Insomniac - 27
Maniac - 27
Psycho - 26
Cop - 24
Warden - 23
Fool - 18
Arsonist - 17
Knot Expert - 17
Dauber Wolf - 16
Mayor - 16
Gentleman - 15
Refugee - 13
Psychotic Wolf - 11
Apprentice - 10
Mercenary - 8
Monster - 8
Stranger - 8
Decoy Wolf - 7
Executioner - 7
Stalker - 7
Sun God - 7
Angel - 6
Assassin - 6
Bomb - 6
Clockmaker - 6
Investigator - 6
Poisoner - 6
Student - 6
Transporter - 6
Cheater - 5
Clairvoyant - 5
Cult Leader - 5
Eidetic Wolf - 5
Fail Seer - 5
Gunsmith - 5
Magician Wolf - 5
Murderer - 5
Painter - 5
Watchdog - 5
Confrere Wolf - 4
Espionage Wolf - 4
Hunter - 4
Lackey - 4
Lovers - 4
Politician - 4
Psychic - 4
Riddler - 4
Supplier - 4
Thief - 4
Blackmailer - 3
Bounty Hunter - 3
Cultist - 3
Doctor - 3
Hypnowolf - 3
Inspector Wolf - 3
Optometrist - 3
Pharaoh - 3
Priest - 3
Security - 3
Traitor - 3
Wrathful - 3
Anarchist - 2
Angakkuq- 2
Bodyguard - 2
Brutal Demon - 2
Clown - 2
Engineer - 2
Gossip - 2
Infector - 2
Jock - 2
Masochist - 2
Master - 2
Oracle - 2
Patrol - 2
Pirate - 2
Rascal Wolf - 2
Remilia Scarlet - 2
Reverter - 2
Ring Leader - 2
Sakuya Izayoi - 2
Succubus - 2
Tide Chimer - 2
Townsbane Wolf - 2
Trapper - 2
Undecided - 2
Wanderer - 2
Witch - 2
Wizard - 2
Alien - 1
Antivirus - 1
Arctic Wolf - 1
Astrophysicist - 1
Baker - 1
Bomber - 1
Bomberwolf - 1
Cirno - 1
Confused Clown - 1
Confused Seer - 1
Cowardly Wolf - 1
Cronie - 1
Despaired Wolf - 1
Detective - 1
Elder Wolf - 1
Elf - 1
Fail Coroner - 1
Flandre Scarlet - 1
Guide - 1
Heretic - 1
Howler - 1
Idiot Wolf - 1
Infected Human - 1
Judge - 1
Knight - 1
Lawyer - 1
Lenny's Bomber - 1
Lenny's Detective - 1
Lion Tamer - 1
Lunatic - 1
Ninja - 1
Nurse - 1
Pathogen - 1
Patient - 1
Phantom - 1
Poltergeist - 1
Potion Maker - 1
Proxy - 1
Reimu Hakurei - 1
Reverser - 1
Rudolph - 1
Santa - 1
Scientist - 1
Sea Wolf - 1
Shielder - 1
Sniper - 1
Soldier - 1
Soul Wolf - 1
Spirit Medium - 1
Sun Lord - 1
Superintendent - 1
Surfer - 1
Terrorist - 1
Tester - 1
Time Lord - 1
Tinker - 1
Town Backup - 1
Trapeze Artist - 1
Trickster Wolf  - 1
Unstable - 1
Veteran - 1
Virus - 1
Zombie - 1
Roles updated to TWG CIII: A Normal Day Outside


Title: Re: Lusamine's Backup Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on November 26, 2017, 02:01:28 PM
Whoa. That's big.


Title: Re: Lusamine's Backup Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 26, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
TWG I (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10460.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: !!Vinnie927
Human MVP: magicmusic
Winner: Wolves

TWG II: The Vigilante's Woods (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10539.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10489.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Honourable Mention: magicmusic, Penguin022, Aburrito
Winner: Vigilante

TWG III: The Murderer's Lair (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10667.0)
Host: svefn-g-englar
MVP: The Baconmaster
Winner: Humans

TWG IV: The Haunted House (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11288.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11147.0))
Host: Bang
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Honourable Mention: magicmusic, !!Vinnie927, Nickito, Aburrito
Winner: Wolves

TWG V: The Painter's Museum  (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11457.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11448.0))
Host: !!Vinnie927
MVP: Penguin022
Human MVP: Aburrito
Winner: Wolves

TWG VI: The Ghost Prophecy (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11564.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11552.0))
Host: magicmusic
MVP: Lenny
Honourable Mention: KitKatastrophic, Kirby
Winner: Humans

TWG VII: The Nightmares Camp (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11697.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11668.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Flare
Wolf MVP: magicmusic
Honourable Mention: magicmusic, Kirby
Winner: Humans

TWG VIII: KABOOM! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11848.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11825.0))
Host: !!Vinnie927
MVP: Kirby
MVP Runner-Up: Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG IX: The Party of Death (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11910.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11936.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Lenny
Gangster MVP: Penguin022
Master MVP: Flare
Artist MVP: Kirby
Confident MVP: svefn-g-englar
Gravedigger MVP: ~LukaLoveblood~
Winner: Guardian Angels

TWG X: Rivals! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12112.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12091.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Nickito
Natura MVP: !!Vinnie927
Divitae MVP: Tangerine
Honourable Mention: Flare, magicmusic, Aburrito, JakeZ
Winner: Wolves

TWG XI: Poisonous Myosotis (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12271.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12209.0))
Host: magicmusic
MVP: Nobody
Winner: Nobody

TWG XII: The Mysterious Case of Wolfington Part 1 (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=13832.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12665.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Penguin022
Human MVP: !!Vinnie927
Wolf MVP: Kowhai
Winner: Vigilante

TWG XIII: The Last Halloween (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=13938.0)
Host: svefn-g-englar
MVP: Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG XIV: Doubles (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14299.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14295.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Human MVP: !!Vinnie927
Honorable Mentions: Kowhai, Hamilton
Winner: Humans

TWG XV: Late Christmas (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14399.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14375.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Thicc Daddy
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Honorable Mention: Penguin022
Winner: Humans

TWG XVI: The Wolfing West (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14548.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14528.0))
Host: Vinnie
MVP: Lpcarver
Winner: Humans

TWG XVII: Wolfington Part Two: Train of the Independent (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14838.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14799.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Prem
Human MVP: Kowhai
Independent MVP: Flare
Honorable Mention: Thicc Daddy
Winner: Wolves

TWG XVIII: Traitor! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15022.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15016.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Winner: Humans

TWG XIX: Quiet Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15152.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15143.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Hamilton
Human MVP: Marlene
Wolf MVP: Lenny
Honorable Mentions: Thicc Daddy, Black Hole, Kowhai
Winner: Vigilante

TWG XX: Choosing Sides (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15215.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15206.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Flare
Human MVP: Kangablue
Honorable Mentions: Prem, Hamilton
Winner: Wolves (and Amnesiac)

TWG XXI: The Museum of History (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15313.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15306.0))
Host: Prem
MVP: MatiN
Human MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: .sanaki.
Honorable Mentions: Hamilton, Red
Winner: Maniac

TWG XXII: Tempest (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15388.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15373.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Kowhai
Human MVP: Napstablook
Independent MVP: Thicc Daddy
Honorable Mentions: Flare, Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG XXIII: Wolfington Part 3: The Cultists (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15565.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15546.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Penguin022
Winner: Humans

TWG XXIV: Secretive Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15823.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15815.0))
Host: Flare
MVP: !!Vinnie927
Human MVP: Penguin022
Wolf MVP: Hamilton
Honorable Mentions: Kowhai, Lenny, Surgekeeper
Winner: Humans and Fool

TWG XXV: The Inhospitable Hospital (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15976.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15947.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: The Spy
Wolf MVP: Flare
Human MVP: SaucyKing
Honorable Mentions: Surgekeeper, Ariana, Hamilton
Winner: Poisoner

TWG XXVI: Classic (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16212.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16133.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Flare
Human MVP: Hamilton
Independent MVP: Black Hole
Honorable Mentions: Thicc Daddy, Cuppa Tea, SaucyKing
Winner: Wolves and Fools

TWG XXVII: Confused Protectors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16409.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16344.0))
Host: Flare
MVP: Hamilton
Wolf MVP: Prem
Honorable Mentions: Thicc Daddy, Penguin022, Niko~
Winner: Humans

TWG XXVIII: Stay Alive (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16583.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16555.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Yuri
Human MVP: Hamilton
Wolf MVP: Kowhai
Honorable Mentions: Lpcarver, Niko~
Winner: Arsonist

TWG XXIX: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16626.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16624.0))
Host: Thicc Daddy
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Wolf MVP: Black Hole
Independent MVP: !!Vinnie927
Honorable Mention: Hamilton
Winner: Remilia Scarlet and Sakuya Izayoi

TWG XXX: A Night at the Asylum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16642.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16638.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Kowhai
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Black Hole
Honorable Mention: !!Vinnie927
Winner: Humans and Amnesiac and Refugee

TWG XXXI: Colourblind (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16834.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16787.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Hamilton
Human MVP: Prem
Winner: Wolves and Fool

TWG XXXII: Nickito's Masterpiece (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16989.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16973.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Hamilton
Wolf MVP: Prem
Independent MVP: Kirby
Honourable Mention: Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXIII: Death at Dusk (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17078.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17071.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Penguin022
Human MVP: Kirby
Independent MVP: Ryuji
Honorable Mention: Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG XXXIV: The Courtroom (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17170.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17155.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: cypher
Human MVP: Prem
Wolf MVP: .sanaki.
Independent MVP: The Spy
Honorable Mentions: Lenny, Majo_Ellen
Winner: Cultists

TWG XXXV: Infected (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17258.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17253.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Human MVP: Nickito
Independent MVP: Kirby
Honorable Mention: Prem
Winner: Wolves

TWG XXXVI: Smoke and Mirrors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17367.0)
Host: svefn-g-englar
MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Independent MVP: Hamilton
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXVII: Cold Blood (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17537.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17502.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: IchiRuki
Honorable Mentions: Penguin022, Hamilton, Nickito, Thicc Daddy
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXVIII: Tick-Tock (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17600.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17599.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: svefn-g-englar
Independent MVP: IchiRuki
Honorable Mentions: Penguin022, Hamilton, Prem
Winner: Humans and Maniac

TWG XXXIX: Lupus' Fate (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17713.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17684.0))
Host: The Spy
MVP: None
Winner: Draw

TWG XL: Batman (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17959.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17862.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Leia
Winner: Court of Owls

TWG XLI: Beach Party (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18516.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18225.0))
Host: Niko~
MVP: Flare
Human MVP: Penguin022
Honorable Mentions: Hamilton and Napstablook
Winner: Wolves

TWG XLII: Remixed (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18689.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18713.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Wolf MVP: Black Hole
Independent MVP: Kowhai
Honorable Mention: iRossome
Winner: Humans

TWG XLIII: Killing Chain (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18767.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18726.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Prem
Fire MVP: Hamilton
Snow MVP: AskJoe
Winner: Water

TWG XLIV: Independence Day (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18846.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18835.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Penguin022
Minor MVPs: Kirby, Leia and Aburrito
Winner: Blackmailer, Fool and Hunter

TWG XLV: Neighbours (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19132.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19036.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Sheep guy
Human MVP: Prem
Independent MVP: Saburo
Honorable Mentions: Hamilton, KitKatastrophic and Leia
Winner: Wolves and Maniac

TWG XLVI: Denial (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19367.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19333.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Niko~
Human MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Kowhai
Honorable Mentions: Penguin022, Nickito and KitKatastrophic
Winner: Wolves and Maniac

TWG XLVII: Beware The Monster (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19779.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19758.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Marlene
Human MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: Kowhai
Independent MVP: Ariana
Honorable Mention: Eliza Mariposa
Winner: Monster and Maniac

TWG XLVIII: The Forum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19888.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19865.0))
Host: Yuri
MVP: Marlene
Wolf MVP: Black Hole
Winner: Virus and Tootsicle

TWG XLIX: Deserted (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20039.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20093.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Prem
Wolf MVP: Ariana
Honorable Mentions: Penguin022, Lenny, Eliza Mariposa, Dark-Knight
Winner: Humans

TWG L: Blast From the Past (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20187.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20177.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Prem
Original MVP: Flare
Wolfington Worker MVP: Marlene
Asylum Inmate MVP: Oof-is
Batmen MVP: Saburo
Independent Gang MVP: Lenny
Cult MVP: Niko~
Winner: Asylum Inmates

TWG LI: The Witherwood Mansion (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20240.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20234.0))
Host: Marlene
MVP: Penguin022
Runner-Up: Flare
Wolf MVP: Hamilton
Independent MVP: N/A
Honorable Mention: Leia
Winner: Humans

TWG LII: Transformed (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20286.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20281.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: .sanaki.
Wolf MVP: KitKatastrophic
Independent MVP: PixelHunter
Winner: Humans

TWG LIII: Weather *DELETED*
Host: Black Hole
MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: Niko~
Independent MVP: Oof-is
Winners: Humans and Maniac

TWG LIV: Deathmatch (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20495.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20485.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Orange Team MVP: Lollipop
Honourable Mention: Eliza Mariposa
Winner: Purple Team

TWG LV: Video Games (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20602.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20592.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Lenny
BLU MVP: Marlene
Honourable Mentions: KitKatastrophic, Lollipop, Hamilton, and PixelHunter
Winner: RED

TWG LVI: The Humans Game (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20692.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20680.0))
Host: Kangablue
MVP: Leia
Human MVP: Prem
Honorable Mentions: KitKatastrophic
Winner: Wolves and Amnesiac

TWG LVII: The Circus of Chaos (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20957.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20934.0))
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Kowhai
Circus of Chaos MVP: Hamilton
Winner: Humans and Amnesiac

TWG LVIII: Treasure Island (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21074.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21047.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Hamilton
Human MVP: Leia
Winner: Wolves

TWG LIX: The Clairvoyant (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21326.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21321.0))
Host: Leia
MVP: Prem
Human MVP: Lenny
Wolf MVP: Eliza Mariposa
Winner: Clairvoyant

TWG LX: The Hungry Games (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21441.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21419.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: Kangablue
Honourable Mention: KitKatastrophic
Winner: Humans


Title: Re: Lusamine's Backup Topic
Post by: Shendelzare on November 26, 2017, 02:02:35 PM
The 8)s tho xD


Title: Re: Lusamine's Backup Topic
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 26, 2017, 02:09:01 PM
TWG LXI: Hell-School (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21585.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21571.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Kirby
Student MVP: Hamilton
Wolf MVP: Kirby
Independent MVP: Kangablue
Honourable Mention: PixelHunter
Winner: Wolves

TWG LII: Remember, Remember (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21728.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21687.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Eliza Mariposa
Human MVP: Kangablue
Wolf MVP: Kirby
Independent MVP: Kowhai
Honourable Mentions: KitKatastrophic, Leia, Niko~
Winner: Hunter and Vigilante

TWG LXIII: Evolution (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21883.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=21833.0))
Host: Kangablue
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Human MVP: Nobody
Independent MVP: Niko~
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXIV: A Ghost Story (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22139.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22064.0))
Host: Kowhai
MVP: Leia
Human MVP: PixelHunter
Wolf MVP: Leia
Neutral MVP: Ryuji
Honourable Mentions: Hamilton, Kangablue, Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG LXV: Last Man Standing (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22238.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22232.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Kowhai
Paranoid Clan MVP: Leia
Team No Role MVP: Kangablue
Honourable Mentions: Marlene, Eliza Mariposa
Winner: Pacifists

TWG LXVI: The Perilous Podium (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22305.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22292.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Robin the Wizard
Bronze MVP: Prem
Silver MVP: Eliza Mariposa
Honourable Mentions: Leia, Lenny, Niko~, Kirby
Winner: Gold

TWG LXVII: Survivor (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22341.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22336.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Kangablue
Human MVP: KitKatastrophic
Wolf MVP: Leia
Winner: Bounty Hunter, Student, Fool

TWG LXVIII: Not Quite A Quiet Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22393.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22385.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: svefn-g-englar
Human MVP: Red
Honourable Mentions: PixelHunter, KitKatastrophic
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXIX: Blackout (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22488.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22469.0))
Host: Leia
MVP: Lenny
Human MVP: Eliza Mariposa
Independent MVP: Marlene
Honorable Mentions: Prem, Kowhai, Flare
Winner: Wolves and Maniac

TWG LXX: Inception of Perception (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22559.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22555.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Prem
Independent MVP: Niko~
Human MVP: BMO
Honourable Mentions: Leia, Nickito, Hamilton
Winner: Wolves and Stranger

TWG LXXI: Lyka's Time (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22617.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22614.0))
Host: Marlene
MVP: Lenny
Human MVP: KitKatastrophic
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Honorable Mentions: Kowhai, Surgekeeper, Prem
Winner: Humans, Bounty Hunter, Vengeful Resident, Deathlock Resident

TWG LXXII: Killing Time (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22722.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22714.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: Kowhai
Wolf MVP: Hamilton
Independent MVP: Lenny
Honorable Mentions: KitKatastrophic and Eliza Mariposa
Winner: Humans and Amnesiac

TWG LXXIII: Bomb Scare (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22803.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22783.0))
Host: svefn-g-englar
MVP: Saburo
Human MVP: !!Vinnie927
Independent MVP: Flare
Honorable Mentions: Leia
Winner: Humans

TWG LXXIV: Classic Part 2 (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22894.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22888.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Kirby
Wolf MVP: KitKatastrophic
Honorable Mentions: Majo_Ellen
Winner: Wolves and Maniac

TWG LXXV: A Rift in Time (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22981.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22965.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Robin the Wizard
Runner-Up: Penguin022
Human MVP: Niko~ and Lenny
Independent MVP: Einstein
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXXVI: Distant Lands (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=22921.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23088.0))
Host: Prem
MVP: Leia
Human MVP: !!Vinnie927
Independent MVP: Kirby
Honorable Mentions: Penguin022, Red, Saburo
Winner: Clairvoyant, Anarchist, Student, Maniac

TWG LXXVII: Death at Dawn (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23170.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23125.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Saburo
Human MVP: Eliza Mariposa
Wolf MVP: Penguin022
Honourable Mentions: Lenny, Kowhai, Leia
Winner: Amnesiac (Sun God)

TWG LXXVIII: Rock Frontier (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23207.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23204.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Kirby
Human MVP: Saburo
Independent MVP: Prem
Honourable Mentions: Lenny
Winner: Wolves, Amnesiac

TWG LXXIX: Penalties (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23251.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23247.0))
Host: Lenny
MVP: !!Vinnie927
Human MVP: KitKatastrophic
Independent MVP: Robin the Wizard
Honourable Mentions: Nickito, Leia
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXXX: Superstitious (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23320.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23313.0))
Host: svefn-g-englar
MVP: Leia
Human MVP: Penguin022
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Honourable Mentions: Kowhai, Flare, Marlene
Winner: Vigilante, Maniac

TWG LXXXI: The Room Where It Happens (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23320.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23435.0))
Host: Penguin022
Blue MVP: Kowhai
Red MVP: Flare
Green MVP: Robin the Wizard
Orange MVP: Leia
Purple MVP: Lenny
Winner: Red Team and Blue Team

TWG LXXXII: Shifting Tides (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23976.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=23787.0))
Host: Prem
MVP: Red
Human MVP: KitKatastrophic
Honourable Mentions: Saburo
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXXXIII: Another Party of Death (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24287.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24212.0))
Host: Hamilton
MVP: Red
Winner: Guardian Angels

TWG LXXXIV: Magicus Extremos! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24484.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24396.0))
Host: Kirby
MVP: Kowhai
Human MVP: Penguin022
Wolf MVP: Hamilton
Honourable Mentions: Leia, HG, Kangablue
Winner: Wolves, Potion Maker, Amnesiac

TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24539.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24526.0))
Host: Flare
MVP: Kowhai
Human MVP: Penguin022
Wolf MVP: Hamilton
Honourable Mentions: Leia
Winner: Humans

TWG LXXXVI: Working Abilities (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24647.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=24630.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Gato
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Hamilton
Honourable Mentions: Toasty, Penguin022, Marlene
Winner: Humans, Masochist

TWG LXXXVII: Catchphrases (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25151.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25102.0))
Host: Eliza Mariposa, KitKatastrophic
MVP: Archi
Human MVP: Finn Balor
Honourable Mentions: Flare, Leia
Winner: Wolves

TWG LXXXVIII: Perfection (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25373.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25299.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: HG
Human MVP: Niko~
Wolf MVP: Kirby
Honourable Mentions: Kowhai
Winner: Humans, Fool

TWG LXXXIX: The Demon Within (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35231.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=25409.0))
Host: Marlene
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Human MVP: Keeza Andrews
Wolf MVP: Nickito
Honourable Mentions: Kowhai, Bandero, Toasty, Niko~
Winner: Wolves, Oracle, Succubus

TWG XC: Return of the Circus (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35304.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35290.0))
Host: Leia
MVP: Kowhai
Human MVP: Marlene
Independent MVP: Flare
Honourable Mentions: Niko~, KitKatastrophic
Winner: Wolves

TWG XCI: The Sun Temple (Topic Lost)
Host: Archi
Winner:

TWG XCII: Werewolves in SPACE! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35524.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35496.0))
Host: Kowhai
Winner: Wolves, Amnesiac

TWG XCIII: Pathological Lying (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35587.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35583.0))
Hosts: KitKastrophic, Leia
Winner: Humans, Amnesiac

TWG XCIV: Morality (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35654.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35653.0))
Host: Nickito
MVP: Kowhai
Human MVP: Surgekeeper
Winner: Wolves

TWG XCV: Revolution (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35744.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35715.0))
Host: Flare
MVP: Leia
Winner: Fool

TWG XCVI: Flipline (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35841.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35819.0))
Host: Majo_Ellen
MVP: Cursed Skylark
Human MVP: Hamilton
Independent MVP: Cuppa Tea
Honourable Mentions: Leia, Niko~
Winner: Wolves

TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35990.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=35972.0))
Host: Surgekeeper
Winner: Draw

TWG XCVIII: Locked and Loaded (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=36067.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=36048.0))
Hosts: Leia, Raven
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Human MVP: Kirby
Independent MVP: Kowhai
Winner: Wolves

TWG XCIX: Faraway City (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=38901.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=38373.0))
Host: Prem
MVP: Bandero
Wolf MVP: KitKatastrophic
Independent MVP: Keeza Andrews
Honourable Mentions: Red, DeluxePizza, Leia, Niko~, Blatant Wolf
Winner: Humans, Hunter

TWG C: Theory of Everything (http://) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=38937.0))
Host: KitKatastrophic
MVP: Leia
Human MVP: Raven
Independent MVP: Prem
Honourable Mentions: Eliza Mariposa, Hamilton, Keeza Andrews
Winner: Wolves, Supplier, Masochist

TWG CI: Foreign Affairs (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39188.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39125.0))
Host: Bandero
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Niko~
Honourable Mentions: DeluxePizza, Red, Blatant Wolf
Winner: Humans, Cheater, Amnesiac

TWG CII: Reversal of Fortune (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39452.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=39379.0))
Hosts: KitKatastrophic, Kowhai
MVP: Sayori
Winner: Humans

TWG CIII: A Normal Day Outside (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40233.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40223.0))
Host: Niko~
MVP: KitKatastrophic
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Raven
Honourable Mention: Cursed Skylark
Winner: Humans, Maniac

TWG CIV: Lost Connection (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40318.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40293.0))
Hosts: HG, Kirby
MVP: Penguin022
Wolf MVP: Lusamine
Winner: Humans

TWG CV: The Sea-Sun of Visitations (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40519.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40390.0))
Hosts: Kowhai, KitKatastrophic
MVP: xoBasicFaith
Human MVP: Kirby
Independent MVP: Blatant Wolf
Honourable Mentions: Flare, Sayori
Winner: Wolves

TWG CVI: Dostoevsky's Exile (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40750.0) (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40229.0))
Host: Prem
MVP: Nickito
Human MVP: DeluxePizza
Independent MVP: Cursed Skylark
Honourable Mentions:
Winner: Wolves

TWG CVII: Age of Mythology (Lounge (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40883.0))
Hosts: Kowhai and KitKatastrophic

TWG CVIII: Return to the Courtroom
Host: Bandero

TWG CIX: The Penitentiary
Host: KitKatastrophic

TWG CX: An Abnormal Evening Inside
Host: Blast Burn

TWG CXI: Wait For It
Host: Hamilton


Title: Re: Official TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 26, 2017, 02:10:44 PM
C'est fini!

We should bring back the FAQ section.

Anyone want to write up a good how to play guide?


Title: Re: Official TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 02:11:32 PM
Archi remove the quotes

btw current game/lounge/sign ups should be in 'Important Links'


Title: Re: Official TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on November 26, 2017, 02:14:44 PM
I can make a better how to play guide and make a more comprehensive FAQ


Title: Re: Official TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 26, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
I already added some important links with the title in code () but it doesn’t show. So Lu already knows mostly what to put there.

I agree that the mince should eheh  (http://__)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 07:11:59 PM
AuroraLights can you start sign ups for Lunatic Asylum?
That's next, right?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on November 26, 2017, 07:29:02 PM
long text
long test
lmao the title of the posts, not the post itself, but it's title

edit: ninja'd, he started changing the title. They were the name change topic v.14 and modification request topic


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on November 26, 2017, 07:44:43 PM
Hey what happened to all of my posts?
My first post has a quote in it, I had to fix some stuff in the most hosted, do the others have similar problems?
there are probably more
just copy/paste from your topic


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on November 26, 2017, 07:49:17 PM
Vigilante - 2 or 3 times in the game, can kill 1 player at night. Wins if they make it to the end.

to fix all the kangablue mocking of "vigilavanite".


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 26, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
actually, vigilvanite is a great role ^^


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 04:50:43 AM
Now that it moved here:

By the way, can we finally rename Inuit? It's same thing as having a role named "Caucasian" or "African-American". It can be renamed to anything that isn't the name of an ethnicity and tribe of people, please.

How about Arctic Trapper?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 04:51:41 AM
Iceman

IDK
Id say you negotiate with Qazikol or something


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 04:54:18 AM
I mean, Nickito’s on charge of the roles but I’ll ask Qazikol if he has any ideas since it was his.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 05:49:18 AM
Qazikol said neither of the above suggestions makes sense, he didn’t have any himself so said just give it something that makes sense.

Well, since it’s formerly Inuit, why not something in Inuktitut?

Ikajuktinak means "shaman/necromancer" in Inuktitut. We could make that slightly easier to pronounce. It also sounds pretty cool, in any case. Ikajuktinak.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 06:52:21 AM
Chieftain
That doesn’t really fit the reviving stance it has. Chieftain would fit a more "leader" town role.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
Arctic Wolf and Inuit don't have much to do with reviving either
They are Arctic themed.

I know. Why not name it after a leader or shaman in the Inuit culture?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angakkuq

Instead of Chieftain, call it Angakkuq.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 01:16:16 PM
Personally, I am fine with Inuit as that is at least way better than Eskimo. I just don't want anything too complicated.

I mean, Angakkuq is alright though.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on November 27, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
let's go with something pronounceable
imo Inuit is fine, but if that won't fly let's go like Shaman or something
it's not going to be used very often so I can't imagine confusion with Wolf Shaman


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 03:05:51 PM
how about Arctic Shaman?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
I feel like Angakkuq is nice and easy to pronounce. We could just romanise it to Angakuk.

Arctic Shaman is a bit less unique and creative but it definitely isn’t bad. We should probably hold a poll between those two, or another option if someone has one.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
I mean, most people don’t seem to mind leaving it as Inuit


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 05:24:26 PM
I mean, most people don’t seem to mind leaving it as Inuit
It's really not the best name. It is an ethnicity. Like I said, it's the equivalent of a role being called "Caucasian" or "African-American". If we had roles named that there'd probably be more outrage since the Inuit are only really known in Canada/USA/Denmark.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on November 27, 2017, 05:39:47 PM
Inuit isn't offensive or anything... it's just a specific ethnicity that happens to be associated with the Arctic.

Reading the role description, it doesn't even make sense that it's called that. The role revives people, and has nothing to do with the Arctic.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on November 27, 2017, 05:50:43 PM
Most people really don't care Lusamine


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on November 27, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
So it looks we all agree on keeping Inuit aside from Lusamine


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
I can make a community poll to see votes as long as someone does an official proposal thing to me.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
Official proposal?
Oi, I saw what you wrote it strike before that. ^-^

But anyways, yeah, check Community Polls.

Ange (anger without R) Uhh *cack* OOhk
I like pronounciable names better
Ang-uh-kuk


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 27, 2017, 09:07:33 PM
Most people really don't care Lusamine
Well boo-hoo for you and the other people because I do. Once again, if we had a Caucasian role someone would notice and get all offended like when people got triggered when a game had Atheist as a role. Inuit doesn’t even fit it thematically or in any way. At least Arctic Shaman/Angakuk (which means Shaman) fit its necro-abilities.

Ange (anger without R) Uhh *cack* OOhk
I like pronounciable names better
If you have basic pronunciation comprehension skills then it’s very easy to pronounce.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on November 27, 2017, 09:09:44 PM
To be fair, Lusamine has a point. People would probably flip their bloop if someone made a bid w/ a role called "African".


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on November 27, 2017, 10:04:48 PM
actually the game that had Atheist as a role never was passed by the bidding poll

but kk cool beans


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on November 28, 2017, 04:09:15 AM
actually the game that had Atheist as a role never was passed by the bidding poll

but kk cool beans
Correct, I meant that when it was in the bidding, sorry for confusion.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on December 01, 2017, 02:40:47 PM
I never thought I'd find a wiki for Flipline Forum TWG........
http://thewerewolfgame.wikia.com/wiki/The_Werewolf_Game_Wiki


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 04:05:52 PM
it's super cringey
I don't recommend reading it


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Can we make a rule that prohibits disruptive non-TWG posts?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 01, 2017, 06:51:08 PM
like what Chasi is doing?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
like what Chasi is doing?
Yed. His posts are incomprehensive and do not relate to the game at al.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 01, 2017, 06:59:13 PM
yes*
you can't edit it now.

There SPECIFICALLY is a rule against deleting posts, so you can't delete disruptive posts at all. I can post whatever I want as long as it does not break the forum guidelines or quote PMs or say that I am wolf or neutral biased.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 01, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
yes*
you can't edit it now.

There SPECIFICALLY is a rule against deleting posts, so you can't delete disruptive posts at all. I can post whatever I want as long as it does not break the forum guidelines or quote PMs or say that I am wolf or neutral biased.
If you are disrupting the game then you can be gamebannzd or modkilled. Sounds like a good compromise.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 02, 2017, 03:53:50 AM
Can we make a rule that prohibits disruptive non-TWG posts?
I am actually thinking about writing a rule on this for Lu


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 01:58:28 PM
I propose that we officially buff Psycho to be like how I used it in Shifting Tides, where it could attempt the use of its ability twice (if it works first time then can’t try again). This makes it more useful instead of a one-and-done because if the Psycho used ability and nobody visits them then boom, useless.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 02, 2017, 01:59:17 PM
Only a problem if the person who has Psycho is terrible at TWG


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:00:38 PM
Only a problem if the person who has Psycho is terrible at TWG
"If your random guess is incorrect, then you're just a blue Human. Good luck."


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 02, 2017, 02:01:18 PM
Anyone who makes a random guess as the Psycho is terrible at TWG


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
But what if there are no leads?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 02, 2017, 02:03:21 PM
...then you wait?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:26:25 PM
I'm fine with buffing Psycho to two shots.
One isn't quite enough to be useful but three is too much.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Like I said, I did this in Shifting Tides. No foreseeable issues.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:28:33 PM
also can we rename Jock to something that isn't dumb and actually fits with the role


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
also can we rename Jock to something that isn't dumb and actually fits with the role
It was for the gimmick game, Hell-School. We could do the usual process with roles like these. Gimmick role -> gets used outside of gimmick -> renamed (e.g Watchdog)

I will try to find a name for it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
some roles i.e Gossip, Riddler can keep their name because it still makes sense
Jock is not one of them. It didn't even make sense then :/


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:33:00 PM
Garbler would fit, as if it is "garbling" (disrupting/roleblocking) the role of someone. I feel like most people wouldn’t like Garbler though. It sounds weird.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:33:35 PM
no that's even worse than Jock

I don't want like Escort, that's from ToS. Can we just call it Blocker or something?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Ooh I know, why not Scrambler? It sounds better and is a synonym for something that is disrupting/roleblocking.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
no that's even worse than Jock

I don't want like Escort, that's from ToS. Can we just call it Blocker or something?
Blocker would work but that's just bland. Sounds more like some independent unbiased role.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
That's even worse than Garbler
sounds like you're talking about eggs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
That's even worse than Garbler
sounds like you're talking about eggs
Maybe not in British English.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 02, 2017, 02:35:52 PM
We should put it into a poll. Should I propose the issue to KKE or will you?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 02, 2017, 02:37:02 PM
I guess you can


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 03, 2017, 08:21:19 AM
We need this to have this happen somehow.

(https://i.imgur.com/6sCWAcR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ElmTzjM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/rCImKNP.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/99C19ky.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/VCfaB9s.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6caBxwJ.png)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 03, 2017, 08:24:45 AM
Have in-game nicknames? sure!
Vote by pms?
Sure!
love to have a salem bid!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 03, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
We need this to have this happen somehow.

(https://i.imgur.com/6sCWAcR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ElmTzjM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/rCImKNP.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/99C19ky.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/VCfaB9s.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6caBxwJ.png)
oh god
Lusamine
what did you do


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 03, 2017, 10:48:00 AM
Back to seriousness, I think we should rework murderer to have it kill one person every even night.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 03, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
Back to seriousness, I think we should rework murderer to have it kill one person every even night.
That's an Assassin.

We need this to have this happen somehow.

(https://i.imgur.com/6sCWAcR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ElmTzjM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/rCImKNP.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/99C19ky.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/VCfaB9s.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6caBxwJ.png)
That Teemo though.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 03, 2017, 11:06:12 AM
That's an Assassin.
Oh... Odd nights after the two kills?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
I'm going around fixing things.

So, who wants to write the how-to-play guide? Lu seems busy. She can do it if she's not.

Rename all mentions of Inuit to Angakkuq, and Space Scientist to Astrophysicist if that hasn't been done yet.

And then update TWGs up to Lunatic Asylum for stats, also make sure to add links to the recent ones. And fix the formatting in Most Hosted. Also, where did Most MVPs go?

Sorry if I'm so bossy, it's just my mother/teacher/figurehead instincts.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 04, 2017, 02:07:15 PM
I can do stats if Archi will let me


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
I can do stats if Archi will let me
Why would he give it away?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 04, 2017, 02:10:33 PM
Exams end on Thursday, so I’ve been studying like mad- after Thursday I’ll have time to do it. Otherwise, anyone is free to write something and I’ll copy paste it in


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:13:56 PM
I'm going around fixing things.

So, who wants to write the how-to-play guide? Lu seems busy. She can do it if she's not.

Rename all mentions of Inuit to Angakkuq, and Space Scientist to Astrophysicist if that hasn't been done yet.

And then update TWGs up to Lunatic Asylum for stats, also make sure to add links to the recent ones. And fix the formatting in Most Hosted. Also, where did Most MVPs go?

Sorry if I'm so bossy, it's just my mother/teacher/figurehead instincts.
I've done my stuff


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
I've done my stuff
Good. Also you should update everything to Lunatic Asylum, or even Locked and Loaded.

That would mean new roles (although I don't think that Lunatic Asylum had any, while Locked and Loaded definitely doesn't) and role frequency.

I can do it for you if that seems like too much.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:16:22 PM
Lunatic and Veteran are new to Lunatic Asylum, and of course there's Role Frequency
I'll get on that


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
Thank you for your wonderful and meticulous upkeep of the roles chart.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:27:00 PM
btw some cool trivia
Both of the back up roles in Locked and Loaded (essentially Stalker and Decoy Wolf) are appearing for the seventh time

also Human finally reached 90 games, Guardian reached 80, Wolf Shaman reached 30, Apprentice reached 10.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
btw some cool trivia
Both of the back up roles in Locked and Loaded (essentially Stalker and Decoy Wolf) are appearing for the seventh time

also Human finally reached 90 games, Guardian reached 80, Wolf Shaman reached 30, Apprentice reached 10.
Cool.

We really should use the Guardian less though.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
I mean if someone can come up with a better Town Protective then sure


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
I wonder if it's possible to count how many times someone played a TWG, but then we have to go through 97 posts...


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:32:40 PM
I wonder if it's possible to count how many times someone played a TWG, but then we have to go through 97 posts...
We used to have this. I was just about to try doing it again, got through TWGo, and decided "nope".

I mean if someone can come up with a better Town Protective then sure
We can just use Mercenary or Pharaoh every 10 games or something.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
Also isn't Psychic Town Killing, not Town Support?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 02:34:57 PM
Also isn't Psychic Town Killing, not Town Support?
Town Support because he does not kill, but manipulates a wolf target, I think...


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
We used to have this. I was just about to try doing it again, got through TWGo, and decided "nope".
If I have to be responsible for that, let it be.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:36:23 PM
I could do that over the weekend
I wouldn't have to check CoNC as much
or we should let Archi since technically it's his responsibility
Also isn't Psychic Town Killing, not Town Support?
Sky is right, since the Psychic does not actually kill anyone themselves


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 02:37:40 PM
Okay, I'll start doing it again I guess. Up to TWG 10, probably.

This is definitely not something that only one person should do.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on December 04, 2017, 02:42:08 PM
I'll try a spreadsheet to get important stats.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 02:43:32 PM
It's super easy
I mean it's just as difficult as Role Frequency, and I just finished that, so


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 03:01:23 PM
I'll try a spreadsheet to get important stats.
No, I'm already doing it, don't


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 04, 2017, 03:03:33 PM
Does anyone have any info on whatever happened in TWG III

Rolelist, sign-ups


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 04, 2017, 03:51:31 PM
I offered to help with Statistics. Let me know what needs to be done.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
Does anyone have any info on whatever happened in TWG III

Rolelist, sign-ups
I posted the role list somewhere
you can just look through the game topic I guess


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 04, 2017, 04:29:37 PM

Lenny (13)
Nickito (13)
Penguin022 (10)
Qazikol (9)
CosmicCoolA34 (8)
KrispyKremeExtreme (8) (Including Catchphrases and Pathological Lying)
noname (5)
Lu (4) (Including Pathological Lying)
!!Vinny927 (3)
Coach Huzzy (3)
Widow (3)
Lusamine (3)
Kangablue (2)
Magicmusic (2)
Bang (1)
Psyker-kun (1)
The Spy (1)
Temmie (1)
nachos (1)
Black Hole (1)
Kassem (1)
Daenerys (1) (Including Catchphrases)
Archi (1)
Futaba Sakura
if Futaba Sakura is (), then why aren't I ()?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 04, 2017, 04:30:53 PM
woah
I have 8 already


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 04:46:28 PM
if Futaba Sakura is (), then why aren't I ()?
when did you host


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 04, 2017, 04:47:30 PM
when did you host
none times, futaba sakura didn't according to the cha-
Oh archi forgot to put futaba sakura's number XD


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: TotesAngel on December 04, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
Lunatic Asylum, AuroraLights, Lusamine.

Fixed it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 04, 2017, 09:32:44 PM
Did we ever do a poll on the MVP ranking getting removed?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: TotesAngel on December 04, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
LUSAMINE WON


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 04, 2017, 09:51:53 PM
LUSAMINE WON
Kke had really great strat tho
Everything went in plan and then pm bombardment.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 04, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
yeah.. :(


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 04, 2017, 10:06:26 PM
That strategy would never have worked if Aurora PMed Futaba at the right time...

Hey, at least it ended in a fair way, and I'm happy it did.That doesn't mean he deserves MVP
i think she did, since it was a N1 thing, and Futaba wasn't online for a while


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 04:18:20 AM
What if nobody gets MVP?

If I keep mine, then one of my leads as Fool was correct and probably led to KKE shooting Archi. There.

Are you for real Lusamine
I said I won't be doing MVP rankings because it encourages competition, and now you suddenly come and say you want it back!?
Come on, if you really want to know the MVP rankings, feel free to use Ctrl+F trough the game statistics, but don't plead for an MVP ranking
It encourages competitions?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 04:22:28 AM
Although apparently according to Archi, KKE’s plan would have failed anyways because it would have ended up in another reroll because Wolf Shaman never got results. If Wolf Shaman did get results they would have known KKE was Veteran from Night 1.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 04:29:56 AM
Could someone more proficient in the English language please make my paragraph more fluid, and then add an Independent section? Thank you.

In TWG, there are two major teams, humans, and wolves. They want to win against each other. The game is split into Nights and Days. During Nights, the wolves can kill the humans by deciding together, as the wolves know each other (this is why there are significantly less wolves). Some of the humans can use special abilities during nights, usually to track down who is a wolf or to find other humans to form alliances. During the Day, everyone votes to lynch (kill) someone, and this is the main way for humans to get wolves out. However, the wolves can use deceiptery to result in a human being lynched. This is where the main part of TWG comes into play - strategising.

Humans win once all of the wolves are eliminated. Wolves win once their numbers are equal to (or more) than the number of humans.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 05, 2017, 05:02:48 AM
I thought we decided on not doing MVPs anymore (?)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:05:57 AM
I thought we decided on not doing MVPs anymore (?)
No, the poll decided on both MVPs and Feedback being valid.

Why would we not do MVPs? It's a sign of recognition. As far as I know, the last time we had issues with them was like March back when this community was extremely toxic.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:36:51 AM
What if nobody gets MVP?

If I keep mine, then one of my leads as Fool was correct and probably led to KKE shooting Archi. There.
It encourages competitions?
I shot Archi because he told me he was a wolf


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:37:41 AM
I shot Archi because he told me he was a wolf
And you only got led to Archi because I told you too.

Anyways, they seered you Night 1. They would have not killed you if they got that you were green and you still claimed Refugee.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 07:22:58 AM
Could someone more proficient in the English language please make my paragraph more fluid, and then add an Independent section? Thank you.

In TWG, there are two major teams, humans, and wolves. They want to win against each other. The game is split into Nights and Days. During Nights, the wolves can kill the humans by deciding together, as the wolves know each other (this is why there are significantly less wolves). Some of the humans can use special abilities during nights, usually to track down who is a wolf or to find other humans to form alliances. During the Day, everyone votes to lynch (kill) someone, and this is the main way for humans to get wolves out. However, the wolves can use deceiptery to result in a human being lynched. This is where the main part of TWG comes into play - strategising.

Humans win once all of the wolves are eliminated. Wolves win once their numbers are equal to (or more) than the number of humans.
I thought we were rewriting it to mention independent roles?
I might rewrite it when I get home


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 07:24:08 AM
I thought we were rewriting it to mention independent roles?
I might rewrite it when I get home
Read the part above the rewrite. I wrote that when I just woke up, not sure what I was doing, but really I'm not that great at making fluid English writing.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 09:08:57 AM
It would be your fault
If I was the host I would do a reroll and replace you with aomeone


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 09:36:11 AM
It's in my bid on the queue


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 09:37:20 AM
If I had to retire a role I'd remove Refugee and Fool forever because they're boring and require nearly no strategy.

"hey guys im refugee dont kill plz thx"
"hey guys im fool if you have no leads plz lynch thx"


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 09:38:14 AM
Okay I'll say that in my bid I changed the Refugee a bit


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 09:39:24 AM
Okay I'll say that in my bid I changed the Refugee a bit
:thumbsup:


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 09:54:51 AM
If I had to retire a role I'd remove Refugee and Fool forever because they're boring and require nearly no strategy.

"hey guys im refugee dont kill plz thx"
"hey guys im fool if you have no leads plz lynch thx"
I thought that the Fool would be the only winner


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
I thought that the Fool would be the only winner
They're not.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 10:49:57 AM
Who invented this role? They took a perfectly good idea and ruined it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 10:54:48 AM
If you want to change the Fool, then suggest a change


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 10:56:01 AM
Fool would only work in closed games, or if host doesn't reveal alignments upon death


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Someone should make a biased fool, who beats everyone if they're lynched


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:40:38 PM
The Werewolf Game (or TWG) consists of the battle between two major teams: the humans, also referred to as the town, and the wolves. The main goal of the humans is to rid the town of wolves. The main goal of the wolves is to ensure that their numbers are equal with that of the rest of the town. For example, if there are three wolves, then they would win when there are six players left, and none of the wolves died. To make this task easier, the wolves all know each other and are able to freely communicate.

At the beginning of each game, the host will PM you your role, including your alignment (human/wolf), and any special abilities you may have. There are usually up to three roles which are unaffiliated with either side, and have a different win condition. These roles are commonly referred to as "Independents".

The game consists of two phases. It begins on a Night phase, in which players can ease into the game and speculate or organize the actions of the succeeding day. The wolves have the opportunity to kill (commonly referred to as "wolf") the player they deem to be the biggest threat to their win condition. Some humans have special abilities, which they can use during the Night. These abilities range from finding information about other players to protecting players to misdirecting the wolves.

Here are some of the most common roles:
Guardian - Each night, this player can guard someone from being killed by the wolves.
Seer - Each night, this player can ask for someone's "color", or their alignment. Green players are generally humans, while red players are generally wolves. Blue players are "power roles" such as the Guardian and the Seer.

The day phase begins with the host declaring the events of the previous night, mainly the deaths. During the day, the players must discuss who they believe to be the likeliest wolf, and they vote/"lynch" this player.

The Werewolf Game is an intense lying game about trust and outwitting the other side. Wolves need to be quick-witted to avoid detection, and humans need to be shifty to see through the wolves' facade.

Tips and Tricks
Humans
-Look for any suspicious or unusual behaviour from your fellow players. If you see something strange, pick up on it and alert your fellow players.
-Make sure to pick up on everyone's strategies. An inactive player might be a wolf blending in, and a bold player might be a wolf trying to misdirect the humans.
-If you're a power role, act suspicious in the main topic. Wolves never target suspicious players.
-That being said, keep your games to the PMs, where the wolves don't see you and you can still help your team.
-Claim as early as possible. If the wolves happen to kill say, the Seer on Night 1, then one of them can pretend that they're the Seer. You want as much information as possible.
-If you're not a power role, act like you are. The humans have to lose someone each night, would you rather a normal Human goes, or the Guardian?
-Most importantly, make your voice heard! Bring up anything suspicious that others may have missed. You have your own brain, use it!
Wolves
-Many humans don't want to rock the boat too much. If you and your wolves are able to start a bandwagon on someone and make it sound legitimate, then many people are willing to just go along with it.
-Inactive players are never useful to the town. If they can't find someone suspicious, then an inconsequential player is the next best thing. Always be as active as possible.
-Remain calm. Humans have no reason to get riled up by lynch votes, so why do you?
-Keep track of your lies and misdirection. If you mess up, someone will spot it. Be ready to justify your lies, and don't back off when someone challenges you.


Read up on at least one past game before playing, so you can get a better idea on how to play. The Werewolf Game may seem a bit daunting at first, but it's very easy to pick up.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:42:06 PM
Someone should make a biased fool, who beats everyone if they're lynched

That's a bit ..too much


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
That's a bit ..too much
Wins if 3/4 vote instead of being just simply lynched?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:44:44 PM
Oh that's something I hate about TWG, how days don't end the second there's a majority lynch


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:45:13 PM
The Werewolf Game (or TWG) consists of the battle between two major teams: the humans, also referred to as the town, and the wolves. The main goal of the humans is to rid the town of wolves. The main goal of the wolves is to ensure that their numbers are equal with that of the rest of the town. For example, if there are three wolves, then they would win when there are six players left, and none of the wolves died. To make this task easier, the wolves all know each other and are able to freely communicate.

At the beginning of each game, the host will PM you your role, including your alignment (human/wolf), and any special abilities you may have. There are usually up to three roles which are unaffiliated with either side, and have a different win condition. These roles are commonly referred to as "Independents".

The game consists of two phases. It begins on a Night phase, in which players can ease into the game and speculate or organize the actions of the succeeding day. The wolves have the opportunity to kill (commonly referred to as "wolf") the player they deem to be the biggest threat to their win condition. Some humans have special abilities, which they can use during the Night. These abilities range from finding information about other players to protecting players to misdirecting the wolves.

Here are some of the most common roles:
Guardian - Each night, this player can guard someone from being killed by the wolves.
Seer - Each night, this player can ask for someone's "color", or their alignment. Green players are generally humans, while red players are generally wolves. Blue players are "power roles" such as the Guardian and the Seer.

The day phase begins with the host declaring the events of the previous night, mainly the deaths. During the day, the players must discuss who they believe to be the likeliest wolf, and they vote/"lynch" this player.

The Werewolf Game is an intense lying game about trust and outwitting the other side. Wolves need to be quick-witted to avoid detection, and humans need to be shifty to see through the wolves' facade.

Tips and Tricks
Humans
-Look for any suspicious or unusual behaviour from your fellow players. If you see something strange, pick up on it and alert your fellow players.
-Make sure to pick up on everyone's strategies. An inactive player might be a wolf blending in, and a bold player might be a wolf trying to misdirect the humans.
-If you're a power role, act suspicious in the main topic. Wolves never target suspicious players.
-That being said, keep your games to the PMs, where the wolves don't see you and you can still help your team.
-Claim as early as possible. If the wolves happen to kill say, the Seer on Night 1, then one of them can pretend that they're the Seer. You want as much information as possible.
-If you're not a power role, act like you are. The humans have to lose someone each night, would you rather a normal Human goes, or the Guardian?
-Most importantly, make your voice heard! Bring up anything suspicious that others may have missed. You have your own brain, use it!
Wolves
-Many humans don't want to rock the boat too much. If you and your wolves are able to start a bandwagon on someone and make it sound legitimate, then many people are willing to just go along with it.
-Inactive players are never useful to the town. If they can't find someone suspicious, then an inconsequential player is the next best thing. Always be as active as possible.
-Remain calm. Humans have no reason to get riled up by lynch votes, so why do you?
-Keep track of your lies and misdirection. If you mess up, someone will spot it. Be ready to justify your lies, and don't back off when someone challenges you.


Read up on at least one past game before playing, so you can get a better idea on how to play. The Werewolf Game may seem a bit daunting at first, but it's very easy to pick up.
I like this. Remove the common roles part because it isn't really necessary. It's good after that.

As for the tips, we should just make a new spoiler for that.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:45:19 PM
Oh that's something I hate about TWG, how days don't end the second there's a majority lynch
Well hosts can't be online all the time to monitor that


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
Get a co-host
It would be great if TWG hosts got mod rights to this section


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
well...co-hosts can't be online all the time either
We have school/sleep


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:47:20 PM
Get a bunch of co-hosts!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 05:47:46 PM
mfw I'm being lynched for following Vinnie's guide


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
Get a co-host
It would be great if TWG hosts got mod rights to this section
I agree. Or at least make someone a board mod because this board desperately needs a clean-up (we still have topics like Sexiest TWG on this board). Don't really care who, just as long as they can do their job properly, whether it's me or Nickito or KKE etc.

I deleted old ones from mine that were not being used. I suggest anyone do the same. That includes things like Working Abilities Poll topic or "my TWG from 3 months ago needs a host", etc.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:48:30 PM
mfw I'm blamed for terrible gameplay


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 05:49:01 PM
I agree. Or at least make someone a board mod because this board desperately needs a clean-up (we still have topics like Sexiest TWG on this board). Don't really care who, just as long as they can do their job properly, whether it's me or Nickito or KKE etc.

I deleted old ones from mine that were not being used. I suggest anyone do the same. That includes things like Working Abilities Poll topic or "my TWG from 3 months ago needs a host", etc.
yeah
talk to Matt about it maybe?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
yeah
talk to Matt about it maybe?
"We'll give that board a mod soon!"

-Matt in 2015


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
Make 3 mods, and they can't all play in the same game


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 05:50:53 PM
That's kinda...no


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on December 05, 2017, 05:51:26 PM
Oh that's something I hate about TWG, how days don't end the second there's a majority lynch
That would be unfair timezone wise though, many a time I have gone asleep and woken up to see myself have a majority. How is that fair?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:51:52 PM
Make 3 mods, and they can't all play in the same game
What?

If you're a board mod then you don't get powers to be able to know roles or something.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
I'm sorry, haven't there been countless incidents in which someone was controversially (not) modkilled?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 05:56:58 PM
!!Vinny927 [Dec 05 07:56 PM]:   hey Joe can you PM Matt about TWG mods? Suggest me, Qazikol and KKE

I say we DON'T let Vinny decide the nominations on his own.

He is barely even involved in TWG.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 05:58:24 PM
Vinny your ideas will have a better change of happening if you actually played some TWGs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 06:16:57 PM
I would play the TWGs if they were good. That's what I'm trying to accomplish: good TWGs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
You can't judge whether they're good or not without playing them


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 05, 2017, 07:25:13 PM
You can't judge whether they're good or not without playing them


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
I mean tbf some bids are obviously very bad
And by Vinnie's standards all games are bad


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 07:29:49 PM
I mean tbf some bids are obviously very bad
And by Vinnie's standards all games are bad
Did Vinnie not bid that coin flip game a while back


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 07:30:01 PM
like all of mine
I plan on revising SOTP. I think in my opinion that it would be the craziest (in a bad way) TWG if ever played.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 07:30:59 PM
Vinnie's pretty much old bid Guys, where are we? and variants


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 05, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Did Vinnie not bid that coin flip game a while back
Perfection? That was a troll bid you voted it in


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 08:19:25 PM
hey
does anyone wanna cohost TWG C with me?
shoot me a PM if you are interested


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 08:22:32 PM
I'm intereste-
oh man i have bombard of schol.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 05, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
I'm intereste-
oh man i have bombard of schol.
PM her if you are.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
dang
3 people already

still haven't decided it yet, but chances are, I will pick someone with hosting experience already as it is a milestone game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 05, 2017, 08:24:47 PM
ok then delete my pm


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
dang
3 people already

still haven't decided it yet, but chances are, I will pick someone with hosting experience already as it is a milestone game.
:(


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
well
I've received like 8 submissions already
gotta do something


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 05, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
you should pick someone with experience
like a lot of experience
like the most out of anyone


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 08:46:18 PM
i'll have to wait like ten games to host if my bid even makes through.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 05, 2017, 08:46:48 PM
you should pick someone with experience
like a lot of experience
like the most out of anyone

hmmmmm


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 05, 2017, 08:47:48 PM
hmmmmm
definetly pick me


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 05, 2017, 08:52:25 PM
You should pick the guest with zero posts


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 05, 2017, 09:41:38 PM
You should pick the guest with zero posts


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 06, 2017, 04:58:05 PM
You should pick the guest with zero posts
Rigonello? I choose you /s


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 06, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
rigonello is evolving into guest!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 06, 2017, 06:38:45 PM
rigonello is evolving into guest!
rigonello is now Level: Guest


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 06, 2017, 06:39:23 PM
rigonello is evolving with "Matt's Stone".

rigonello is now Moderator.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 06, 2017, 06:39:32 PM
I meant strikethrough not underline

Are we allowed to edit posts in threads that aren't games?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 06, 2017, 06:39:47 PM
rigonello is evolving with "Matt's Stone".

rigonello is now Moderator.
No please


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 06:50:44 PM
rigonello is evolving with "Matt's Stone".

rigonello is now Moderator.
D:

I meant strikethrough not underline

Are we allowed to edit posts in threads that aren't games?

Yes.



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on December 06, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
Yes.
Thanks! :)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 06, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
Rigonello is evolving with "Forum Approval" and "Rigonellonite"

Rigonello is now Flipline Owner


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Wait why would you evolve from a Moderator isn't that like the final form


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 06, 2017, 07:17:52 PM
Wait why would you evolve from a Moderator isn't that like the final form

mega form


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:38:15 PM
Random Ideas expressed again:
- no PMs (unless wolves)
-days end when majority is reached or when a set amount of time passeso
-no posting at night


And I believe that everyone claiming human at the start is a flaw, but I can't think of a solution. No roleclaiming would be very terrible.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
Random Ideas expressed again:
- no PMs (unless wolves)
-days end when majority is reached or when a set amount of time passeso
-no posting at night


And I believe that everyone claiming human at the start is a flaw, but I can't think of a solution. No roleclaiming would be very terrible.
No PMs is going to be in a game soon.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:43:17 PM
Nickito lied to me
Hey the other ideas are even better!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 06, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Random Ideas expressed again:
- no PMs (unless wolves)
-days end when majority is reached or when a set amount of time passeso
-no posting at night


And I believe that everyone claiming human at the start is a flaw, but I can't think of a solution. No roleclaiming would be very terrible.
Vinny just go play on mafiascum or mafiauniverse


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:45:05 PM
But I'd get lynched on Day 1 every single time


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 06, 2017, 07:45:35 PM
But I'd get lynched on Day 1 every single time
Not my problem


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 06, 2017, 07:46:26 PM
do people seriously lynch "Yexo B. Yaxaxite" D1 all teh time in ToS? nope.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
OK so I see a flaw in the TWG system and I want to correct it. What is wrong with that?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 06, 2017, 07:51:03 PM
OK so I see a flaw in the TWG system and I want to correct it. What is wrong with that?
I mean, the things you want to change will probably end up re-establishing sitemeta


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 07:53:02 PM
I mean, the things you want to change will probably end up re-establishing sitemeta
I read this as "seetehmetuh", please use hyphens more often.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 06, 2017, 07:55:39 PM
You know what she meant it's not a big deal

And I think that the forum!meta could be much, much better. I'm just trying to help


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 06, 2017, 08:27:50 PM
Okay let’s get onto writing up that rule about no disruptive posting and then voting it in


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 06, 2017, 08:29:54 PM
How would we exactly differentiate between what is considered disruptive and nondisruptive? Hosts choice/players choice or what?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 07, 2017, 06:54:27 AM
How would we exactly differentiate between what is considered disruptive and nondisruptive? Hosts choice/players choice or what?
Non-TWG posts, or extreme spam, is disruptive.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Raven on December 07, 2017, 07:01:56 AM
Non-TWG posts, or extreme spam, is disruptive.

But what Chasi posted was not exactly not TWG-related. Oh and Im pretty sure he doesnt just spam but he also thinks abt what hes doing. Im not gonna make any more comments and if I do, itll probably be considered as a host exploiting a player's privacy in a game.


Anyway, I disapprove of this rule(?)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 07, 2017, 07:08:58 AM
But what Chasi posted was not exactly not TWG-related. Oh and Im pretty sure he doesnt just spam but he also thinks abt what hes doing. Im not gonna make any more comments and if I do, itll probably be considered as a host exploiting a player's privacy in a game.


Anyway, I disapprove of this rule(?)
He was definitely spamming and making non-TWG related posts.

"[queenify this person bleepit]
A HUMAN DAMNIT
[/queenify this person bleepit]
the amnesiac has spoken.
the spider has spoken.
the person on roblox that is neither me or zechakari has spoken.
y'all know"

This is needlessly annoying when all he had to say was "I am a Human".


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 07, 2017, 07:18:14 AM
He was definitely spamming and making non-TWG related posts.

"[queenify this person bleepit]
A HUMAN DAMNIT
[/queenify this person bleepit]
the amnesiac has spoken.
the spider has spoken.
the person on roblox that is neither me or zechakari has spoken.
y'all know"

This is needlessly annoying when all he had to say was "I am a Human".
Okay modkill me for that, I just copypasted someone's quote (not blankin's though)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 07, 2017, 07:20:17 AM
Okay modkill me for that, I just copypasted someone's quote (not blankin's though)
Just don't do it again. Please don't ruin Make TWG Great Again by acting like this.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 07, 2017, 07:50:00 AM
Honestly I am much more bothered by how you're handling this than I was with him in the first place (he didn't even remotely annoy me)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on December 07, 2017, 07:58:30 AM
Honestly I am much more bothered by how you're handling this than I was with him in the first place (he didn't even remotely annoy me)
Yeah, he only annoyed me a bit. I just went with the crowd. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 07, 2017, 08:00:57 AM
I might just join Nickito's next TWG so I could troll excessively


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Raven on December 07, 2017, 10:11:54 AM
Honestly I am much more bothered by how you're handling this than I was with him in the first place (he didn't even remotely annoy me)

YES THANK YOU

Even Lu, who is the host and should be the most annoyed, wasnt that annoyed with him


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on December 07, 2017, 10:20:13 AM
I would be fine with 2 of your rule proposals Vinnie, not the day ends after majority/certain time one though. As I have explained, that just won’t work here.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Raven on December 07, 2017, 10:31:53 AM
I would be fine with 2 of your rule proposals Vinnie, not the day ends after majority/certain time one though. As I have explained, that just won’t work here.

I just realised that you're Cosmic  :blank:

tHe BlAnKeT iS bLaNk


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 07, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
I would be fine with 2 of your rule proposals Vinnie, not the day ends after majority/certain time one though. As I have explained, that just won’t work here.
Why is that?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 07, 2017, 07:53:43 PM
People need time for defense. This isn't a game of online mafia where the whole game takes ten minutes.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 07, 2017, 07:58:34 PM
yeah
honestly though if the host judges that the day can end, it can end.
Same with Night phases


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 07, 2017, 08:00:53 PM
Two interpretations from that:
1. The person wasn't active enough to defend themselves and therefore shouldn't have signed up
2. The players are very terrible at this hypothetical TWG for ending the day early

Your meta seems to cater an inactive and inexperienced playerbase as a whole. Something about that doesn't seem right to me.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 07, 2017, 08:03:21 PM
I mean the meta is evolving as players become more experienced. Changing game mechanics won't speed up progress, progress has to happen organically.
Perhaps the meta will eventually progress to the point where that rule makes sense, but for now it doesn't.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 07, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
Two interpretations from that:
1. The person wasn't active enough to defend themselves and therefore shouldn't have signed up
2. The players are very terrible at this hypothetical TWG for ending the day early

Your meta seems to cater an inactive and inexperienced playerbase as a whole. Something about that doesn't seem right to me.

What if the person was at school? Asleep? Not everyone lives in the same time zone you do.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 07, 2017, 08:13:34 PM
Then someone in the situation really screwed up, either the lynched player because they must have done something very stupid to get lynched without a defence, or everyone who voted for them because they ended the day early


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blue on December 08, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
Can someone tell me what changes in TWG since July thx


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
FFS who does stats now

And everything has been deleted too unless someone can find a quite


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
I want to redo stats


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 08, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
good idea


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 08, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
I'm fine with Green owning it but if anyone else wants to KKE should probably put up a poll


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 05:17:10 PM
I don't think a poll is fair because I'm a relatively new player and no one will probably vote for me


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 08, 2017, 06:11:26 PM
I mean there's not really another way to do this
btw Archi still hadn't gotten around to changing anything from Penguin's version aside from usernames. Nothing was really lost there


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 06:43:36 PM
Does anyone have the sign up list for TWG 3?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 08, 2017, 06:52:53 PM
Does anyone have the sign up list for TWG 3?
This was my issue too but NO TSH had to delete all of his lounges


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 08, 2017, 06:53:50 PM
I'm doing Games Played right now, and I'm on TWG VI


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on December 11, 2017, 09:06:16 PM
Can someone tell me if Archi’s game is still going on with a different host, or if it’s cancelled? He’s asking me about it. ???


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 11, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
idk
it looks like Lusamine is hosting it because apparently people don't have a problem with one person being in control of everything

(Lusamine has never really hosted a game without problems, so let's not put all of our eggs in one basket and have him just host two very important games)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 11, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
I want to use the wayback machine but it's considered a proxy :(


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 12, 2017, 12:53:10 AM
idk
it looks like Lusamine is hosting it because apparently people don't have a problem with one person being in control of everything

(Lusamine has never really hosted a game without problems, so let's not put all of our eggs in one basket and have him just host two very important games)
Does the fact that you are tied with me mean nothing to you?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 12, 2017, 12:58:54 AM
Also, what if people are voting for me because they have good taste, huh?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on December 12, 2017, 07:39:18 AM
Also, what if people are voting for me because they have good taste, huh?
Hmm… weird. Something about this doesn’t seem right, probably because of you. It’s almost like you’re changing or something. I don’t know, I feel like you aren’t the person to say something like this that sounds… um…
People except Lusamine: I’m not sure if arrogant is the correct word here, so if you have something better to describe this, please tell me. I’m stumped. (I’m not even joking tbh.)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 12, 2017, 07:46:19 AM
Hmm… weird. Something about this doesn’t seem right, probably because of you. It’s almost like you’re changing or something. I don’t know, I feel like you aren’t the person to say something like this that sounds… um…
People except Lusamine: I’m not sure if arrogant is the correct word here, so if you have something better to describe this, please tell me. I’m stumped. (I’m not even joking tbh.)
I mean that if people voted for me then obviously they think that I am the right person for it. And that is not even mentioning the fact that I am tied with Nickito.

I apologise if the wording made it seem like I am saying anyone who voted me has good taste, that would indeed be very arrogant. I see how it could be misconstrued that way.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on December 12, 2017, 08:43:42 AM
I mean that if people voted for me then obviously they think that I am the right person for it. And that is not even mentioning the fact that I am tied with Nickito.

I apologise if the wording made it seem like I am saying anyone who voted me has good taste, that would indeed be very arrogant. I see how it could be misconstrued that way.
It’s fine. It just didn’t seem like something you would say.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 12, 2017, 08:50:51 AM
It’s fine. It just didn’t seem like something you would say.
I woke up at 2:50 accidentally probably that’s why


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 12, 2017, 09:00:04 AM
It’s fine. It just didn’t seem like something you would say.
rigonello's revenge


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Ianiant on December 13, 2017, 05:53:56 PM
I would consider signing up, but KKE and Widow have blocked me.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 13, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 13, 2017, 06:31:30 PM
I would consider signing up, but KKE and Widow have blocked me.
just sign up anyway.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 14, 2017, 07:28:25 AM
[Dec 14 10:28 AM]:   Widow officially retires from TWG competition but from hosting.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 17, 2017, 10:18:56 AM
So, how's stats coming along, Green?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 17, 2017, 10:31:01 AM
Top 20 Most Posted-in TWGs
Maybe I'll expand this into the top 100 (98?)

1. TWG LXXXVI: Working Abilities (1078 posts, hosted by KitKatExtreme)
2. TWG XCVIII: Locked and Loaded (647 posts, hosted by Lu and blankin)
3. TWG XIV: Doubles (567 posts, hosted by Penguin022)
4=TWG XV: Late Christmas (562 posts, hosted by Lenny)
4=TWG XC: Return of the Circus (562 posts, hosted by Lu)
6. TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (560 posts, hosted by Harrington)
7. TWG LXXXVII: Catchphrases (516 posts, hosted by Rachel Amber and KitKatExtreme)
8. TWG XXXVI: Smoke and Mirrors (494 posts, hosted by noname
9. TWG XCIII: Pathological Lying (493 posts, hosted by Lu and KitKatExtreme)
10. TWG L: Blast From the Past (478 posts, hosted by Penguin022)
11. TWG LXXXXII: Shifting Tides (468 posts, hosted by Lusamine)
12. TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum (462 posts, hosted by AuroraLights)
13. TWG LXXV: A Rift in Time (459 posts, hosted by KitKatExtreme)
14. TWG LXXXVIII: Perfection (457 posts, hosted by Nickito)
15. TWGIX: The Party of Death (445 posts, hosted by Nickito)
16. TWG XCIV: Morality (437 posts, hosted by Nickito)
17. TWG LXXVI: Distant Lands (430 posts, hosted by Lusamine)
18. TWG XXV: The Inhospitable Hospital (416 posts, hosted by Qazikol)
19. TWG XLVIII: The Forum (402 posts, hosted by Excalibur)
20. TWG XII: The Mysterious Case of Wolfington, Part 1 (400 posts, hosted by Nickito)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 17, 2017, 10:31:51 AM
TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum would've been higher if it was a full gamer.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 17, 2017, 10:32:40 AM
TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum would've been higher if it was a full gamer.
Yup. It got so much in just two Nights.

Although to be honest, about half of it was my Fool spam.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 17, 2017, 10:33:15 AM
Yup. It got so much in just two Nights.

Although to be honest, about half of it was my Fool spam.

Yeah, probably. Still a lot in two nights.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 17, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
I've made it to TWG XXX for times played. I've been busy this weekend, but I'll start working on it again ASAP.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 17, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
Are you making a list like the one Archi had though, where it would go like

Title with link to game Topic
Host
Who won
mvp


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 17, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
I'll update that with the new ones.

That list is still intact in the old HQ.



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 17, 2017, 12:16:44 PM
Widow has one of the first messages on this topic.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 18, 2017, 06:01:26 PM
Meanwhile

(https://i.imgur.com/IqYaRzA.png)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 18, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
I have a suggestion.

Independent roles have their own goals to win. Biased independents win by themselves, while Unbiased Independents win with others.

But what about Semi-Biased? Semi-Biased ones can either win by their own or with others. That's what I truly mean. Such examples are Amnesiac, Stranger, Student, Succubus, and Thief. But in the future, there's another Semi-Biased role I somehow introduced:

Valkyrie - Can only kill two people over the course of the game, yet if she attacks her randomly specified target ("Valkyrie's Interest"), it will instead not be used at all. Wins until the end, along with the target (can be anyone but other Neutral Biased), if his/her target had their winning requirements done. Cannot know her target (but the target knows the Valkyrie), and her target cannot talk to the Valkyrie by PMs, otherwise it is a modkill that do not warrant a gameban, until Night 2.

Does the Valkyrie win with anyone?
Unlike the Succubus, the Valkyrie doesn't win with anyone, as she is actually Neutral Biased, but due to "Valkyrie's Interest", Valkyrie is one of the Neutral Semi-Biased as if her target wins, along with the Valkyrie, only both win, no one else. However, albeit the target knows that he was the target after all, the Valkyrie doesn't know her own target at all until Night 2.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 18, 2017, 08:34:08 PM
Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, and Thief are special cases (and I guess Undecided). They choose their own alignment. I wouldn't call them Semi-Balanced. They don't care what goes on outside of what they do, like all other unbiased roles.

I'd put the other semi-biased roles (Succubus/Valkyrie) as being biased. Unbiased means they can win with everyone as long as they accomplish their goals. Succubus can't win with the Wolves, so it isn't unbiased.

Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Shendelzare on December 18, 2017, 08:42:32 PM
[1] Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, and Thief are special cases (and I guess Undecided). They choose their own alignment. I wouldn't call them Semi-Balanced. They don't care what goes on outside of what they do, like all other unbiased roles.

[2] I'd put the other semi-biased roles (Succubus/Valkyrie) as being biased. Unbiased means they can win with everyone as long as they accomplish their goals. Succubus can't win with the Wolves, so it isn't unbiased.

[3] Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.
1. Agreed.

2. Valkyrie was the biased one...

...while Succubus is unbiased, because she can even side with other Unbiased Independents, I believe as I made that role. The reason why I don't want them to side with wolves because it can make it overpowered.

3. I see.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 18, 2017, 08:46:14 PM
Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.
Well, no, because if the Guardian just needed to be dead, then it would still be unbiased, as they could still win with the Guardian as the Guardian is a human role that can still win when dead. That's like saying Executioner is biased.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 19, 2017, 04:07:38 AM
Okay bad example
Replace Guardian with Vigilante or something


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 23, 2017, 09:35:16 PM
how fun
my laptop runs into a plethora of issues right before TWG C


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 11:22:52 AM
I hope for Angakkuk to never be used again unless it is changed up A LOT


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 26, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
It is literally an improvement over the Necromancer in every way, and I do not mean in making it OP. Necromancer is what makes miller gaming a thing again.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 11:35:21 AM
how?
you can revive 2 confirmed people with Angakukk


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 26, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
how?
you can revive 2 confirmed people with Angakukk

Who then end up dying.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 26, 2017, 02:23:57 PM
I hope for Angakkuk to never be used again unless it is changed up A LOT
Yeah
Here I was relaxing and now I'm revived and I have to do stuff
With a Necro this wouldn't happen


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 26, 2017, 02:31:22 PM
Yeah
Here I was relaxing and now I'm revived and I have to do stuff
With a Necro this wouldn't happen
Hate to break it to you but if the Necromancer revived you, you would still have to "do stuff".


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 26, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
Hate to break it to you but if the Necromancer revived you, you would still have to "do stuff".

He probably meant if the game proceeded as usual.
Skylark would be perm. revived, Nickito wouldn't be revived.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 26, 2017, 05:13:24 PM
Exactly
Angakukk can have two revived people at once, but there's no real reason to kill them because they'll die soon
It definitely doesn't prevent Miller gaming


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on December 26, 2017, 07:05:02 PM
Gosh guys it's Angakkuq learn to spell, you voted on this rename so can y'all bleepin spell it right or I'll petition to rename it Necromancer 2.0

And I agree with Nick, it's def WORSE than Necromancer


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 07:50:16 PM
We can always do a new role where revived people will not be allowed to use PMs unless it is for night actions. That can prevent obnoxious miller gaming.

Angakkuq - once a game can revive ONE player who will die again after 2 nights (so if revived n2 will die n4). revived person cannot use PMs unless for night actions


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on December 26, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
Then that would make Angakkuq less powerful than necro and therefore make necro seem OP


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 07:56:23 PM
Well, there was never an issue with Necromancer being OP before..
just trying to change it up a bit so it wouldn't be hella OP over Necromancer


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 26, 2017, 07:57:42 PM
Yes there was. How did you never realise the Necromancer issue?

In the few games where the Necromancer was an actually skilled player, they would revive someone OP on like Day 3-4 and completely trash the wolves with Miller gaming.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 07:59:12 PM
Hmmm

We can always tweak both the Necro/Anga to where their targets won't be able to PM anyone after being revived 


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 26, 2017, 10:06:08 PM
Isn't that just Town for numbers though? That defeats a lot of the purpose. If necessary it would be good, but...

Let's just agree that Necromancer and Angakkuq both are not very overpowered. There are a few exceptions but that's all in combos with other blue roles so let's just watch the rolelists with these revival roles now.

Arctic Wolf can just be exempt from all this.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 26, 2017, 10:57:51 PM
Can I just point out that if we want an alternative reviving role, Spirit Medium exists and I'd like to try it again at some point.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 11:10:39 PM
wait
i am confused
how is Angakukk not OP? @Lusamine



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 26, 2017, 11:14:14 PM
The average TWG is literally only like 5 nights
And now my first two night kills are gonna die N4 and N5 becsuse of Anga
so they were practically useless kills :/



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 27, 2017, 05:52:51 AM
While the wolves get to kill two other people. So they were not useless because they still end up dying.

Pretty sure two human deaths two nights in a row isn't exactly making the town OP.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 27, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Once again, we can see here how the Necromancer is more OP because the kill ends up being actually a waste there, unlike with the Angakkuq where it takes time but you end up as it usually would.

It has always been this way without issues. Not sure why you're becoming so triggered at revival roles now.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 27, 2017, 08:06:40 AM
Once again, we can see here how the Necromancer is more OP because the kill ends up being actually a waste there, unlike with the Angakkuq where it takes time but you end up as it usually would.

It has always been this way without issues. Not sure why you're becoming so triggered at revival roles now.
Support
Besides, people can't be confirmed now, which could prevent hardcore millering.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 27, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Proposal: Spirit Medium, but the revival is not announced, and any posts or PMs that the revived target wishes to make must instead be PMed to the Spirit Medium, who must then make those posts/PMs under their name.

This would remove or reduce the miller-gaming aspect due to no one being automatically confirmed.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 08:24:12 PM
Wait, so, like, the Spirit Medium quotes the "revived" player anonymously and posts for them

If that is the case, then yeah, that works for me


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 27, 2017, 08:28:55 PM
or we could just ban PMs to revived players
revived players could vote, use abilities, and have abilities used on them, but they can't send PMs to other users or receive PMs from other users


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
should I make a poll on this later?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 27, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
or we could just ban PMs to revived players
revived players could vote, use abilities, and have abilities used on them, but they can't send PMs to other users or receive PMs from other users
That would be quite a bit of a hindrance, wouldn't it
This would be better, as it allows for alliance building and being a full blue role while also suppressing miller-gaming. Plus, it means there's actually a point in reviving protective roles.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 08:56:57 PM
yeah
I agree with this ^


But if a lot of people agree with Nick, I guess I will make a poll some time


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 27, 2017, 08:57:04 PM
Shouldn't Angakkuq be an unbiased independent if it wants to team with wolves

or are wolves unrevivable


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 08:57:19 PM
Shouldn't Angakkuq be an unbiased independent if it wants to team with wolves

or are wolves unrevivable
What


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 27, 2017, 08:58:11 PM
That would be quite a bit of a hindrance, wouldn't it
This would be better, as it allows for alliance building and being a full blue role while also suppressing miller-gaming. Plus, it means there's actually a point in reviving protective roles.
I mean so would having all of your messages being relayed between another user


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 27, 2017, 09:09:48 PM
No more revival ever let's do that


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 09:12:31 PM
i actually don’t mind rolelists without necro/etc but i think having no revival *ever* is a bit too far


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 27, 2017, 09:13:20 PM
No it isn't


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on December 27, 2017, 09:16:01 PM
necro should be the only revival roel


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 09:17:10 PM
Sport Medium defines needs to be nerfed to only let one plauer back tho


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 27, 2017, 09:18:10 PM
This meta doesn't need any revival roles both sides have too many problems
1 has Miller gaming the other has predetermined death which is no fun


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 09:21:47 PM
Hm
what if we do Necromancer with qazikols proposed changes? idk
leave it at one revival role where the player won’t have predetermined death


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 27, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
Or we leave it the way it is. We haven't had issues for 99 games despite the Necromancer being present in like 50 games, and it's the 'overpowered' one.

Just make sure that if you have revival roles the blue role combinations are not excorbitant and we should be good.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 27, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
I think the issue was at Angakukk


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 27, 2017, 09:59:38 PM
Or we leave it the way it is. We haven't had issues for 99 games despite the Necromancer being present in like 50 games, and it's the 'overpowered' one.

Just make sure that if you have revival roles the blue role combinations are not excorbitant and we should be good.
Actually, I have had problems with Necro in the past, and thought that it needs to be nerfed, just haven't said anything.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 06:36:39 AM
I think the issue was at Angakukk
Anyone who thinks that an OP ability is being able to revive two people who die in 2 days loses the right to discuss this. The wolves basically get an extra kill.

Actually, I have had problems with Necro in the past, and thought that it needs to be nerfed, just haven't said anything.
This makes sense then.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 06:36:53 AM
Proposal: Have there only be one revival role who can revive one player in game; revival is not announced, and any posts or PMs that the revived target wishes to make must instead be PMed to the whatever this role may be named, who must then make those posts/PMs under their name.

...if we wanna get rid of miller gamin... ^


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 06:43:37 AM
If the revived role dies, then it prevents large-scale Miller gaming. We should first vote on whether or not revival is even an issue, and if it is, we should be tweaking the Angakkuq to work slightly better.

Leave PMs and stuff or else there is no use in being revived at all.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 07:09:21 AM
It doesn't prevent large-scale miller-gaming at all.
Forming an alliance via miller-gaming does not take multiple nights and days, and if even one role is more or less confirmed, they can take it from there.
As far as I can tell, the only reasonable solution is just to not have a revived be automatically confirmed, as is the case with my modified spirit medium.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 11:56:43 AM
Qazikol's idea and my idea accomplish the same thing, but his idea is more confusing and I don't see any advantages to using it


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 28, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
I finished all of the games played stats including TWG 100!

I skipped TWG III, XIII, and XXXVI because I couldn't find rolelists.

If anyone could find them, that would be great.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 01:35:43 PM
You need role lists, or player lists?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
You need role lists, or player lists?
He needs lists of players. He is doing the amount of games that people have played list. It was discontinued long ago, so it's nice to have someone back in charge of that.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 02:00:01 PM
Okay
I'll look through the game topics and see what I can do


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 02:13:26 PM
magicmusic
Penguin022
border
arachnidsGrip
Bang
!!Vinny927
Natalya
Chieko Tsukada
PokeCake
trash
Nickito
cypher
Vector
Harrington
PeppermintLeaf
Lenny
Sodium Chloride
The Baconmaster
Vinnie
Nickito
Excalibur
Lusamine
Harrington
Hajime
Red
Penguin022
Zetsubeau
Qazikol
Sodium Chloride
AuroraLights
Bang
minecraftmaster1.0
Lenny
Gaster
Lpcarver
RagemZuru
Lenny
Zetsubeau
.sanaki./JustHereForKCP (whichever one works for you)
Futaba Sakura
Neprune Efron
Natalya
Paramore
Qazikol
IchiRuki
Lusamine
Ariana
Lore
AuroraLights
Vinnie
Sodium Chloride
IllogicallyIllogical
cypher
Saburo
Nickito
trash
Bang
The Spy
AskJoe
Ravine Roth
Red
if you have any questions I will try to answer them


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 28, 2017, 02:14:22 PM
Thanks!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Wonderful.

Green, when you finish the list, you should post it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 04:16:47 PM
Qazikol's idea and my idea accomplish the same thing, but his idea is more confusing and I don't see any advantages to using it
That would be quite a bit of a hindrance, wouldn't it
This would be better, as it allows for alliance building and being a full blue role while also suppressing miller-gaming. Plus, it means there's actually a point in reviving protective roles.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 04:55:00 PM
I missed that post I guess
So... the reviving role is effectively dead, and the revived role sends the reviving role messages to relay?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 05:35:36 PM
Pretty much.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 05:46:33 PM
How does that stop Miller gaming
What happens if the Necromancer role doesn't relay all of the messages, is that against the rules?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 05:51:52 PM
It prevents miller-gaming issues by not automatically confirming the revived role, as it is not announced. A wolf can claim to be a dead person being hosted by the medium, the same way they would claim as any other blue role.
It will not be automatically against the rules to not relay messages, but in a lot of cases it would be considered gamethrowing and would be against the rules.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 05:56:38 PM
Unrelated, but I am doing the individual game data now. Up to 25 so far.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
 new thing I did for TWG C in case we do Sprite Medium

Spirit Medium: Can revive 1 player in the game at the cost of their own life; the revivee is unannounced. However, the Spirit Medium would be allowed to post and PM ONLY what the revivee sends them; any posts or PMs that the revived target wishes to make must instead be PMed to the now-dead Spirit Medium, who will be given the exception of being able to post and PM for the revivee.


What do yall think of this?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 07:42:12 PM
instead of drastically changing an old role until it's essentially unrecognisable, make a new role


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
That's a small issue
I was asking if the role had any issues with the way it works/anything you dislike/potential issues etc..


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 28, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
I don't like the idea of only being able to post or PM what someone tells you to.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 07:53:04 PM
I don't like the idea of only being able to post or PM what someone tells you to.
^

Angakkuq and Necromancer work. They are not extremely overpowered as long as the wolves are decently powerful as well. In Theory of Everything the wolves at enot particularly powerful, while the blue roles are even without a revival role. This is why I suggested having five wolves or removing the Necromancer.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 07:56:19 PM
hmm
how about Warden in place of Necromancer..?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 08:01:00 PM
What's the problem with five wolves? The humans are OP regardless. Plus, it gives Harrington a chance to play.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
5 wolves honestly might not work out. I think it will, but TWG C is already a very experimental game. We don't want to mess it up more than we have to.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 08:08:17 PM
ya
that’s how i felt too @nick

so
warden?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 08:09:23 PM
sure


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
5 wolves honestly might not work out. I think it will, but TWG C is already a very experimental game. We don't want to mess it up more than we have to.
Good point. Then Dostoevsky's Exile will remain the testing ground for that.

Well if we are looking for new roles, Warden would work decently but you already have an investigator role and the rolelist should seek to be as unique as possible. No lynch-related roles - a buffed Tide Chimer would work here.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blue on December 28, 2017, 08:10:40 PM
U keep mentioning the tide chimer buff but you never said what it is


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
Something like allowing the Tide Chimer to take everyone's votes that have not been used yet for the rest of the day, once in the game. This gives it more usage because currently at best it gets 2-3 extra votes...and can only use the ability once.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
Don't like the idea of having Warden with Guardian, if they find each other then town can basically just win through the miller-game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 28, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
new thing I did for TWG C in case we do Sprite Medium

Spirit Medium: Can revive 1 player in the game at the cost of their own life; the revivee is unannounced. However, the Spirit Medium would be allowed to post and PM ONLY what the revivee sends them; any posts or PMs that the revived target wishes to make must instead be PMed to the now-dead Spirit Medium, who will be given the exception of being able to post and PM for the revivee.


What do yall think of this?
Imo this seems really, really inconvenient. You would need to stretch the day/night cycles out or have a really devoted and active person be revived, otherwise it wouldn't really be worth it. At this point, just make a Medium that can revive a dead player's power- so this new Medium get's the dead player's results (if they were a power role) and can now use their power.

Ex. Lusamine died. Lusamine was Seer. Somehow, Nickito the New Medium has found out that Lusamine was seer. New Medium decides to revive Nick's power. New Medium now has Nick's past seering results and can now seer in future nights.

It's just a town sided Amnesiac, essentially.

Also- do we have a policy for what to do if a Necro/Agakkuaq/Town-aligned revival role tries to revive a Neutral role? (Assuming that there is no gamethrowing involved and the Town-aligned revival role legitimently thinks that the Neutral role was town and worth-reviving)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
I actually like that Town Sided Amne idea


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on December 28, 2017, 08:48:58 PM
I'd say it's not very inconvenient. The revived leaves messages when they're online, the reviver posts messages when they're online.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 28, 2017, 08:49:26 PM
IllogicallyIllogical - 81
Qazikol - 80
Sodium Chloride - 80
Lenny - 71
Harrington - 61
Leia - 60
Lore - 60
Lusamine - 58
Penguin022 - 58
Futaba Sakura - 54
Nickito - 47
KitKatExtreme - 47
Saburo - 43
Everilyfel - 40
Flipfan Oofis - 39
Kangablue - 38
Natayla - 36
Rachel Amber - 36
JustHereForKCP - 32
Zetsubeau - 31
Panda-Chu - 30
AuroraLights - 30
Red - 29
!!Vinny927 - 29
Shuichi Saihara - 27
Kiefer - 27
Sent - 26
Ryuji - 26
trash - 23
Black Hole - 21
Ariana - 20
PixelHunter - 20
Bang - 19
Gigi Lee Lann - 17
The Spy - 16
border - 14
Toasty - 14
blankin - 13
HG - 13
Napstablook - 13
Green - 12
4 Magic Fanatic - 12
Excalibur - 12
Chieko Tsukada - 12
RagemZuru - 11
cypher - 10
Dark-Knight - 10
Sheep guy - 10
memes - 9
magicmusic - 9
IchiRuki - 8
skylark89 - 7
Smaartii_Paants
Paramore - 6
Lollipop - 6
MatiN - 6
TheLionKing - 6
RoastedCopperGuy - 6
Gato - 5
JakeZ - 5
MarkiplierFana! - 5
Jules - 5
PeppermintLeaf - 5
Cyrus - 4
Red Velvet - 4
Lpcarver - 4
Morenatsu - 4
All Over Pink - 4
\_MegaDragonite_/ - 4
~LukaLoveblood~ - 4
Golden.Chocolate - 4
DeluxePizza - 3
AskJoe - 3
Hajime - 3
Rossome - 3
SaucyKing - 3
Vector - 3
Faith.xoxo - 2
The Perrin Sequence - 2
Watermelon - 2
Tangerine - 2
Rainbow Rocket - 2
CoolABlaster - 2
Crytongal - 2
AsadoCooperFan - 2
arachnidsGrip - 2
The Baconmaster - 2
humanbeing2000 - 1
Aleister Black - 1
ColinMedia6 - 1
susheriafan - 1
ElectricAngel - 1
1033Forest - 1
Choconilla - 1
Maximus198 - 1
Skye - 1
Park Jinyoung - 1
Momo-senpai - 1
DryShyGuy - 1
BloxxerofNoobs - 1
LaserLance - 1
Fliptropica - 1
datoofboiiii - 1
Choco~Loco - 1
Ixora - 1
Coopah - 1
flarp - 1
geniuskid11111 - 1
Mint Cherry - 1
iMint - 1
Zartaushat - 1
Chicha Lover - 1
gimmicks - 1
Gaster - 1
minecraftmaster1.0 - 1
Ace Trainer - 1
PokeCake - 1


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 28, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
woah futaba has played more than me :o


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on December 28, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
At this rate it's going to be really hard to stop miller-gaming


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on December 28, 2017, 09:04:09 PM
I'd say it's not very inconvenient. The revived leaves messages when they're online, the reviver posts messages when they're online.
But what if it's a relatively inactive player? Say Ravine Roth the Seer was revived (sorry Ravine) through Lusamine the Medium. Lusamine needs results so he knows who to lynch, but Ravine hasn't been on for 12 hours, and by the time she gets the results to him it may be too late to change the lynch. And then vice versa- if Lusamine really needs Ravine to post results, but Ravine hasn't been online since the day began and the day is running out of time, Ravine may not arrive in time to make the posts for Lusamine to change the lynch.

A lot of times in TWG, timing really matters. People need to throw out ideas sooner then later, because later people are less likely to believe them. This isn't always the case but it tends to happen.

And what about Illogical? If he's Spirit Medium, it's going to be noticeable. He barely posts, and then he decides to revive KKE who posts frequently, and then now he's posting all the time? That is going to raise eyebrows and suspicion, and bring his attention to the wolves.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 09:10:16 PM
I mean this role seems to be designed to revive the town leaders

Don't like the idea of having Warden with Guardian, if they find each other then town can basically just win through the miller-game.
at this point, why have any unique roles at all? They could just be confirmed and we could have miller gaming.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 28, 2017, 09:25:31 PM
Times hosted (including 100)

Nickito - 14
Lenny - 13
Penguin022 - 10
Qazikol - 9
IllogicallyIllogical - 8
KitKatExtreme - 7
Leia - 5
Everilyfel - 5
Lusamine - 4
Harrington - 4
Natayla - 3
!!Vinny927 - 3
Kangablue - 2
magicmusic - 2
AuroraLights - 1
Futaba Sakura - 1
Sent - 1
Rachel Amber - 1
Sodium Chloride - 1
Black Hole - 1
Excalibur - 1
Lore - 1
The Spy - 1
Zetsubeau - 1
Bang - 1


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 09:26:01 PM
At this rate it's going to be really hard to stop miller-gaming
This. It isn't a complete breeze to get yourself confirmed anymore and we've done everything we can to stop it. Even if you manage to get a large alliance, like with what happened in Faraway City, it isn't just complete miller gaming. Even if it looks like it, I'll have to discuss how the alliance came about once the game ends though. But basically, it wasn't just every blue role PMing Red. If that ever happened in a game I would question the experience of the power roles.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
IllogicallyIllogical - 81
Qazikol - 80
Sodium Chloride - 80
Lenny - 71
Harrington - 61
Leia - 60
Lore - 60
Lusamine - 58
Penguin022 - 58
Futaba Sakura - 54
Nickito - 47
KitKatExtreme - 47
Saburo - 43
Everilyfel - 40
Flipfan Oofis - 39
Kangablue - 38
Natayla - 36
Rachel Amber - 36
JustHereForKCP - 32
Zetsubeau - 31
Panda-Chu - 30
AuroraLights - 30
Red - 29
!!Vinny927 - 29
Shuichi Saihara - 27
Kiefer - 27
Sent - 26
Ryuji - 26
trash - 23
Black Hole - 21
Ariana - 20
PixelHunter - 20
Bang - 19
Gigi Lee Lann - 17
The Spy - 16
border - 14
Toasty - 14
blankin - 13
HG - 13
Napstablook - 13
Green - 12
4 Magic Fanatic - 12
Excalibur - 12
Chieko Tsukada - 12
RagemZuru - 11
cypher - 10
Dark-Knight - 10
Sheep guy - 10
memes - 9
magicmusic - 9
IchiRuki - 8
skylark89 - 7
Smaartii_Paants
Paramore - 6
Lollipop - 6
MatiN - 6
TheLionKing - 6
RoastedCopperGuy - 6
Gato - 5
JakeZ - 5
MarkiplierFana! - 5
Jules - 5
PeppermintLeaf - 5
Cyrus - 4
Red Velvet - 4
Lpcarver - 4
Morenatsu - 4
All Over Pink - 4
\_MegaDragonite_/ - 4
~LukaLoveblood~ - 4
Golden.Chocolate - 4
DeluxePizza - 3
AskJoe - 3
Hajime - 3
Rossome - 3
SaucyKing - 3
Vector - 3
Faith.xoxo - 2
The Perrin Sequence - 2
Watermelon - 2
Tangerine - 2
Rainbow Rocket - 2
CoolABlaster - 2
Crytongal - 2
AsadoCooperFan - 2
arachnidsGrip - 2
The Baconmaster - 2
humanbeing2000 - 1
Aleister Black - 1
ColinMedia6 - 1
susheriafan - 1
ElectricAngel - 1
1033Forest - 1
Choconilla - 1
Maximus198 - 1
Skye - 1
Park Jinyoung - 1
Momo-senpai - 1
DryShyGuy - 1
BloxxerofNoobs - 1
LaserLance - 1
Fliptropica - 1
datoofboiiii - 1
Choco~Loco - 1
Ixora - 1
Coopah - 1
flarp - 1
geniuskid11111 - 1
Mint Cherry - 1
iMint - 1
Zartaushat - 1
Chicha Lover - 1
gimmicks - 1
Gaster - 1
minecraftmaster1.0 - 1
Ace Trainer - 1
PokeCake - 1
Lovely and interesting list. Thank you for it. We can alphabetise it later and start updating it as usual.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 28, 2017, 09:28:23 PM
the only way to stop miller-gaming is to ban either roleclaiming or PMs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
Times hosted (including 100)

Nickito - 14
Lenny - 13
Penguin022 - 10
Qazikol - 9
IllogicallyIllogical - 8
KitKatExtreme - 7
Leia - 5
Everilyfel - 5
Lusamine - 4
Harrington - 4
Natayla - 3
!!Vinny927 - 3
Kangablue - 2
magicmusic - 2
AuroraLights - 1
Futaba Sakura - 1
Sent - 1
Rachel Amber - 1
Sodium Chloride - 1
Black Hole - 1
Excalibur - 1
Lore - 1
The Spy - 1
Zetsubeau - 1
Bang - 1
This as well.

If it isn't a hassle, could you do players sorted by MVP amounts? If it would be difficult then don't since I am doing the game stats right now so I can do it as well.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 28, 2017, 09:29:16 PM
banning roleclaiming is stupid, banning PMs is more realistic but this meta isn't ready for that


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 28, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
I didn't say the only good way


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 28, 2017, 09:34:15 PM
Just keep it as it is. Miller gaming isn't a gamebreaking issue.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 28, 2017, 09:43:41 PM
Then let's reintroduce millers to TWG


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 02:42:29 AM
Then let's reintroduce millers to TWG
Correction: Miller gaming in its current form is not an issue.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 09:44:32 AM
I have finished 50.

TWG I (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10460.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: !!Vinny927
Honourable Mention: magicmusic
Winner: Wolves

TWG II: Vigilante's Woods (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10539.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: noname
Honourable Mentions: border, magicmusic, Penguin022
Winner: Vigilante

TWG III: The Murderer's Lair (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=10667.0)
Host: noname
MVP: The Baconmaster
Winner: Humans

TWG IV: Haunted House (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11288.0)
Host: Bang
MVP: noname
Honourable Mentions: border, magicmusic, Nickito
Winner: Wolves

TWG V: The Painter's Museum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11457.0)
Host: !!Vinny927
MVP: Penguin022
Honourable Mention: border
Winner: Wolves

TWG VI: Ghost Prophecy (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11564.0)
Host: magicmusic
MVP: Lenny
Honourable Mentions: KitKatExtreme, Sodium Chloride
Winner: Humans

TWG VII: Nightmare Camp (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11697.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Harrington
Honourable Mentions: magicmusic, Sodium Chloride
Winner: Humans

TWG VIII: KABOOM! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11848.0)
Host: !!Vinny927
MVP: Sodium Chloride
Honourable Mention: Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG IX: The Party of Death (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=11936.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: Lenny
Gangster MVP: Penguin022
Master MVP: Harrington
Artist MVP: Sodium Chloride
Confident MVP: noname
Winner: Guardian Angels

TWG X: Rivals! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12112.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Nickito
Divitae MVP: Muffin
Natura MVP: !!Vinny927
Honourable Mentions: border, JakeZ, magicmusic
Winner: Wolves

TWG XI: Poisonous Myosotis (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=12271.0)
Host: magicmusic
MVP: N/A
Winner: N/A

TWG XII: The Mysterious Case of Wolfington (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=13832.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: Penguin022
Honourable Mentions: !!Vinny927, Qazikol
Winner: Vigilante

TWG XIII: Last Halloween (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=13938.0)
Host: noname
MVP: Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG XIV: Doubles (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14299.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: KitKatExtreme
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Lusamine, Qazikol
Winner: Humans

TWG XV: Late Christmas (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14399.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Zetsubeau
Honourable Mentions: Nickito, Penguin022, Red
Winner: Humans

TWG XVI: Wolfing West (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14548.0)
Host: !!Vinny927
MVP: N/A
Winner: N/A

TWG XVII: Train of the Independent (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=14838.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: Lusamine
Honourable Mentions: Harrington, Qazikol, Zetsubeau
Winner: Wolves (+Executioner)

TWG XVIII: Traitor! (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15022.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG XIX: Quiet Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15152.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Human MVP: Natalya
Wolf MVP: Lenny
Honourable Mentions: Lusamine, Qazikol, Zetsubeau
Winner: Vigilante

TWG XX: Choosing Sides (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15215.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Harrington
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Kangablue, Lusamine
Winner: Wolves (+Amnesiac)

TWG XXI: The Museum of History (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15313.0)
Host: Lusamine
MVP: N/A
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Lenny, Red
Winner: Maniac

TWG XXII: Tempest (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15388.0)
Host: IllogicallyIllogical
MVP: Qazikol
Human MVP: Napstablook
Independent MVP: Zetsubeau
Honourable Mentions: Harrington, Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG XXIII: The Cultists (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15565.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: Penguin022
Winner: Humans

TWG XXIV: Secretive Town (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15823.0)
Host: Harrington
MVP: !!Vinny927
Honourable Mentions: AuroraLights, IllogicallyIllogical, Penguin022
Winner: Humans (+Fool)

TWG XXV: The Inhospitable Hospital (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=15976.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: The Spy
Honourable Mentions: Ariana, AuroraLights, IllogicallyIllogical
Winner: Poisoner

TWG XXVI: Classic (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16212.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Harrington
Human MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Independent MVP: Black Hole
Honourable Mentions: Kiefer, SaucyKing, Zetsubeau
Winner: Wolves (+Fool)

TWG XXVII: Confused Protectors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16409.0)
Host: Harrington
MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Wolf MVP: Lusamine
Honourable Mentions: Lore, Penguin022, Zetsubeau
Winner: Humans

TWG XXVIII: Stay Alive (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16583.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Excalibur
Human MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Wolf MVP: Qazikol
Honourable Mentions: Lore, Lpcarver, Lusamine
Winner: Arsonist (+Maniac)

TWG XXIX: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16626.0)
Host: Zetsubeau
MVP: KitKatExtreme
Honourable Mentions: Black Hole, IllogicallyIllogical
Winner: Remilia Scarlet (+Sakuya Izayoi)

TWG XXX: A Night at the Asylum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16642.0)
Host: KitKatExtreme
MVP: Qazikol
Wolf MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Black Hole
Honourable Mention: !!Vinny927
Winner: Humans (+Amnesiac and Refugee)

TWG XXXI: Colourblind (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16834.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Honourable Mention: Lusamine
Winner: Wolves (+Fool)

TWG XXXII: Nickito's Masterpiece (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=16989.0)
Host: Nickito
MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Wolf MVP: Lusamine
Independent MVP: Sodium Chloride
Honourable Mention: Lenny
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXIII: Death at Dusk (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17078.0)
Host: IllogicallyIllogical
MVP: Penguin022
Human MVP: Sodium Chloride
Independent MVP: Ryuji
Honourable Mention: Lenny
Winner: Wolves

TWG XXXIV: The Courtroom (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17170.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: cypher
Human MVP: Lusamine
Wolf MVP: JustHereForKCP
Independent MVP: The Spy
Honourable Mentions: Futaba Sakura, Lenny
Winner: Cultists (+Executioner)

TWG XXXV: Infected (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17258.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: noname
Honourable Mentions: Lusamine, Nickito, Sodium Chloride
Winner: Wolves (+Maniac)

TWG XXXVI: Smoke and Mirrors (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17367.0)
Host: noname
MVP: Lenny
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Nickito, Red
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXVII: Cold Blood (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17537.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: IchiRuki
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Lenny, Zetsubeau
Winner: Humans

TWG XXXVIII: Tick-Tock (http://)
Host: Nickito
MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: Lusamine
Independent MVP: IchiRuki
Honourable Mentions: AuroraLights, noname, Penguin022
Winner: Humans (+Maniac)

TWG XXXIX: Lupus' Fate (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17713.0)
Host: The Spy
MVP: N/A
Winner: N/A

TWG XL: Batman (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=17959.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Leia
Winner: Cultists

TWG XLI: Beach Party (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18516.0)
Host: Lore
MVP: Harrington
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, Napstablook, Penguin022
Winner: Wolves

TWG XLII: Remixed (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18689.0)
Host: IllogicallyIllogical
MVP: noname
Honourable Mentions: Black Hole, Qazikol, Rossome
Winner: Humans

TWG XLIII: Killing Chain (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18767.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Lusamine
Fire MVP: IllogicallyIllogical
Snow MVP: AskJoe
Winner: Water

TWG XLIV: Independence Day (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=18846.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: Penguin022
Honourable Mentions: border, Leia, Sodium Chloride
Winner: Blackmailer (+Fool)

TWG XLV: Neighbours (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19036.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Sheep guy
Human MVP: Lusamine
Independent MVP: Saburo
Honourable Mentions: IllogicallyIllogical, KitKatExtreme, Leia
Winner: Wolves (+Maniac)

TWG XLVI: Denial (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19367.0)
Host: IllogicallyIllogical
MVP: Lore
Human MVP: Leia
Independent MVP: Qazikol
Honourable Mentions: KitKatExtreme, Nickito, Penguin022
Winner: Wolves (+Maniac)

TWG XLVII: Beware the Monster (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19779.0)
Host: Lenny
MVP: Natalya
Human MVP: Leia
Wolf MVP: Qazikol
Honourable Mentions: Ariana, Rachel Amber
Winner: Monster (+Maniac)

TWG XLVIII: The Forum (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=19888.0)
Host: Excalibur
MVP: Natalya
Winner: Cultists (+Fool)

TWG XLIX: Deserted (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20093.0)
Host: Qazikol
MVP: Lusamine
Wolf MVP: Ariana
Honourable Mentions: Chef Ben, Lenny, Rachel Amber
Winner: Humans

TWG L: Blast From the Past (http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=20187.0)
Host: Penguin022
MVP: Lusamine
Original MVP: Harrington
Wolfington Worker MVP: Natalya
Asylum Inmate MVP: Flipfan Oofis
Batmen MVP: Saburo
Independent Gang MVP: Lenny
Cult MVP: Lore
Winner: Asylum Inmates


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 29, 2017, 09:55:30 AM
Correction: Miller gaming in its current form is not an issue.
Then we shouldn't change the Necromancer at all right?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: MariaYuki on December 29, 2017, 10:24:13 AM
woah futaba has played more than me :o
I'm suprised too...


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 29, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
Times hosted (including 100)
KitKatExtreme - 7


TWG Night At the Asylum
TWG Hell school
TWG Perilous Podium
TWG Inception of Percetion
TWG Rift of Time
TWG Working Abilities
TWG Catchphrases (me and Rachel)
TWG Pathological Lying (me and Leia)
TWG Theory of Everything

I've hosted 9, not 7


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 10:45:48 AM
I'm assuming he did not count co-hosting.

Nothing unusual here.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 29, 2017, 10:53:31 AM
Should be counted IMO as then, if it isn't counted for either me/Leia/Rachel, then there will be some discontinuity between the number of games there are vs. the number of games people hosted.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: dar on December 29, 2017, 10:55:01 AM
add half game for each shadow and each cohost.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 10:56:42 AM
Is there ever a game that had two hosts in mind?

For example, Rachel Amber was the original host for Catchphrases, so if it went to her that would make sense.
Pathological Lying and Locked and Loaded has two hosts in mind though so if it went to you and blankin it would not be out of question, but the original bidder (think it's Leia both times) being the only créditée would not be odd as well.

If you got the Catchphrases credit then I may as well get credit for Morality, and Natalya for Lunatic Asylum.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 29, 2017, 10:57:13 AM
..I was the original bidder for Pathological Lying..


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 29, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
When making the list, I gave the credit to whoever created the game topic and lounge


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 11:35:35 AM
..I was the original bidder for Pathological Lying..
Then you get it. No need to act offended.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 29, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
How was I acting offended..?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 29, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
I gave you Pathological Lying


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
How was I acting offended..?

"..."


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
Then we shouldn't change the Necromancer at all right?
As long as the wolves are not made to be too weak, yes. It should be fine.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 29, 2017, 11:55:13 AM
Is there ever a game that had two hosts in mind?

For example, Rachel Amber was the original host for Catchphrases, so if it went to her that would make sense.
Pathological Lying and Locked and Loaded has two hosts in mind though so if it went to you and blankin it would not be out of question, but the original bidder (think it's Leia both times) being the only créditée would not be odd as well.

If you got the Catchphrases credit then I may as well get credit for Morality, and Natalya for Lunatic Asylum.
That makes no sense


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 12:10:51 PM
That makes no sense
There were four statements. Which one?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 29, 2017, 12:32:54 PM
The part where you get credit for hosting Morality because you bid it, and that being the same as KKE getting credit for hosting Catchphrases because she updated the topic


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 29, 2017, 01:01:46 PM
If I brought the Werewolf Race Game back, would people play it?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 01:12:03 PM
The part where you get credit for hosting Morality because you bid it, and that being the same as KKE getting credit for hosting Catchphrases because she updated the topic
Both of us would be getting credit for what we basically had nearly no influence on. I made the rolelist for Morality but I didn't host it at all. KKE did host Catchphrases towards the end, but otherwise nothing was hers.

If I brought the Werewolf Race Game back, would people play it?
Maybe just KO the TWG (Role).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 29, 2017, 01:15:51 PM
But KKE literally hosted Catchphrases
I mean I still wouldn't count her as hosting it so that we don't complicate things


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 01:17:11 PM
But KKE literally hosted Catchphrases
I mean I still wouldn't count her as hosting it so that we don't complicate things
She only hosted it for around 2 days after something happened to Rachel Amber.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 29, 2017, 01:18:36 PM
The argument shouldn't be "did she host", because she did. It should be "should we count it on the chart" and I would say no.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 29, 2017, 01:20:11 PM
Okay, then Green agrees too. I don't think KKE cares anyways.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
we should probably have concrete guidelines on what happens with a tie somewhere
there haven't been disagreements yet, but even though there appears to be an agreed upon answer it's not listed anywhere on the HQ


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 30, 2017, 06:56:41 PM
I feel like ties should be randomized


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 30, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
I feel like ties should be randomized
This is what I would do in events...but at the same time, I dislike the idea of leaving a possibly game-changing vote up to chance.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
There are 4 options I can think of
- No one is lynched
- Randomise lynched player from anyone involved in tie
- Randomise lynched player from anyone not in tie
- Randomise lynched player from everyone alive

I like the second one the best.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 30, 2017, 07:04:03 PM
bro, that is so evil nick


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 30, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
This is what I would do in events...but at the same time, I dislike the idea of leaving a possibly game-changing vote up to chance.
I hate chance too but, it's what it is :/
better than not lynching


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 30, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Could host's discretion work in a situation like this?

Because sometimes it would just be a tie on Day 3, no big deal. I would randomise that. But if it's a game-changing vote that just so happens to be a tie I would be very reluctant on randomising that.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 30, 2017, 07:05:08 PM
bro, that is so evil nick
...it's evil?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 07:06:00 PM
Host's discretion isn't good, considering how much complaining of host interference there was in this game.

Not sure what happened so I won't comment on it, but we should try to be fair and consistent.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 30, 2017, 07:06:57 PM
I think having no lynchee would be better.

Or maybe if someone is blackmailed and it's a tie, the person not blackmailed will always get lynched


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on December 30, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
I think having no lynchee would be better.

Or maybe if someone is blackmailed and it's a tie, the person not blackmailed will always get lynched
This would make the Blackmailer overly difficult to win as though.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 30, 2017, 07:13:08 PM
Then how about in a tie with a blackmailed person the blackmailer will always win


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 07:14:31 PM
or just don't do anything differently when the Blackmailer is involved


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: !!Vinny927 on December 30, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
- Randomise lynched player from anyone not in tie
I like this one because it is an incentive to avoid the tie in the first place


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on December 30, 2017, 07:42:12 PM
Except it's not a good idea to leave game-changing decisions up to randomness


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
okay we should have a poll


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on December 30, 2017, 07:46:24 PM
There are 4 options I can think of
- No one is lynched
- Randomise lynched player from anyone involved in tie
- Randomise lynched player from anyone not in tie
- Randomise lynched player from everyone alive

I like the second one the best.

ITS LIKE SURVIVOR


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on December 30, 2017, 07:54:51 PM
If we do it like in Survivor, then the day would start over but the people involved in the tie become blackmailed


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on December 30, 2017, 09:08:27 PM
...it's evil?
my b, I thought he was referring to #3 for some reason


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 01, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
(https://scontent.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26172061_541841389503027_5123485580366203337_o.jpg?oh=65d04bf632041f338ae163acaf80afd4&oe=5AB310A4)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 01, 2018, 01:18:58 PM
That’s a shame Widow origin seemed fun :(

We will respect your wishes, Natalya


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on January 01, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
Wow he even Bcc'ed like a distinguished email person


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Ducky Momo on January 06, 2018, 02:10:00 AM
Is there like a TWG Discussion anywhere or is this it??

Anyway, can someone send my the role list for TWG: CI by Green, I was wondering if I should sign up. Thanks.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 06, 2018, 05:22:49 AM
Is there like a TWG Discussion anywhere or is this it??

Anyway, can someone send my the role list for TWG: CI by Green, I was wondering if I should sign up. Thanks.
This is it.

Also, for future rolelists you can check the Bidding Topic and go to post #2. The spoiler "Poll History" has links to all of the rolelists, even for failed bids.

Green's is called Foreign Affairs and would be somewhere near the bottom.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 08, 2018, 01:20:13 PM
MUCH NEEDED PSA [PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY; Preferably put this in the Rules section too]
  • If you are going to lose the game, please lose despite GIVING IT YOUR ALL as a player
  • Losing by making THE WORST OF THE WORST mistakes is UNACCEPTABLE
So what kind of mistakes am I talking about?

1. Read. The. Goddamn. Topic. And. Rolelist.
There have been more than 5 instances where users have made mistakes because of issues that coulda been easily prevented had they just made an effort to READ the entire game AND role list as a whole. It is crucial to know what selection of roles you are working with and what each role does specifically.

2. Please keep track of who is dead and alive as a host or player.
There have been too many instances where players have tried to tell me to do an action on [dead player] when it was impossible for their role to do so. This is one of the most foolish things I've seen all game. Like come on, I've seen you all play, and I've seen all of your potential. Please don't put all that potential to waste by simply not reading and telling me you would [insert role action] on a dead player of all players you coulda chosen.

3. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PLAYER TO SUBMIT YOUR ACTION WITHIN THE ALLOTTED 24 HOURS OF NIGHT!!!!!
The bolded part says it all. I can be lenient, but, many hosts won't be. They aren't going to delay the game at night because you were chatting on the SB rather than helping your team at Night.

4. It is good to listen to others, but it is also good to follow your own gut instinct.
You don't always have to do what others tell you to do in the game. It is okay to show resistance and do what YOU feel like YOU want to do. I mean, it boils down to making your own judgement, but you get what I mean.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 08, 2018, 01:23:23 PM
Can we make it an actual guidelines list without feedback from the writer? No offense, just a suggestion.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 08, 2018, 01:24:31 PM
? I don't understand


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 08, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
There are a lot of parts where you go into "Like, I know it's difficult, but *example* and I don't think this is the best" or something. It makes it somewhat more difficult to read through.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 08, 2018, 03:54:03 PM
But i bolded key points


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 08, 2018, 04:06:42 PM
We're going to start punishing bad gameplay? Shouldn't we just work on helping players who are struggling?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on January 08, 2018, 04:17:27 PM
Yeah
It’s not unacceptable to make a very bad mistake
It’s just a very bad mistake


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 08, 2018, 05:36:04 PM
We're going to start punishing bad gameplay? Shouldn't we just work on helping players who are struggling?
This is true though

But i bolded key points
Then what's the point of a paragraph that does nothing but make people feel bad about themselves


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 08, 2018, 05:41:39 PM
People make mistakes. Highlight them in the feedback, and we should start emphasising that no one should feel obligated to play in a game if they aren't feeling up to it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 08, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
I mean, that's kind of gamethrowing to an extent, especially if a team is involved.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 09, 2018, 04:36:12 AM
I mean, that's kind of gamethrowing to an extent, especially if a team is involved.
Making them feel worse about it is still not helping.

Do we want a repeat of Classic 2.0?

"You did bad, you did bad, and you did bad too!". Why do you think some people were scared to return to TWG after that?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 09, 2018, 04:58:40 AM
It isn't gamethrowing if it isn't intentional


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 10, 2018, 11:17:02 PM
TWG C: Theory of Everything
Host: KitKatExtreme
MVP: Lusamine
Wolf MVP: Leia
Town MVP: blankin
Honorable Mentions: Rachel Amber, IllogicallyIllogical, Gigi Lee Lann


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on January 11, 2018, 03:40:55 PM
I have the statistics updated until TWG CI.

How do we get them into the headquarters?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 11, 2018, 03:48:25 PM
You can send it all to me and I can copypaste it into my post


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 11, 2018, 04:31:16 PM
Natalya still has a post there and Green updates them after.

Ask Leia to move this to one of my boards, I will split a post of Green's here. Or two, probably. Or three. You get the point.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 11, 2018, 05:23:28 PM
So, there is only one post that Green had in my boards in the necessary time period.

If it won't fit in one post then get Joe.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on January 11, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
I'd preferably have something I could edit


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 11, 2018, 06:13:54 PM
Yeah that's the plan


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on January 11, 2018, 06:17:03 PM
I'd preferably have something I could edit
You currently do- it's right below Rules. If you need more, Joe can add more later (Lusamine could only find 1 of your posts in Off Topic to merge with this one).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 11, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
You currently do- it's right below Rules. If you need more, Joe can add more later (Lusamine could only find 1 of your posts in Off Topic to merge with this one).
Or GD and FD.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blue on January 13, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
We dont have rules for being rude in TWG

We should make some


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 13, 2018, 03:54:04 PM
Quick notice that I'm not going to be participating in this game any further, or indeed any future TWGs as long as certain people are present and causing me to not enjoy TWG (as enjoyment is ultimately what one should be gleaning from it, contrary to what others may think). I will still be hosting Reversal of Fortune though, hosting isn't too draining. You're welcome, Rachel.
Also not going to be checking this topic any further, so feel free to hurl abuse at me if you so wish.
Same minus the check the topic and hosting part, I might give someone my game tho but IDK


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 13, 2018, 03:57:21 PM
Me and Qazikol have just agreed to co-host Sea-Sun, so NVM.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on January 13, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
I'm so fed up with Lusamine right now


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on January 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
I might take a break from TWG, besides bidding my bid.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 13, 2018, 04:03:43 PM
Me and Qazikol have just agreed to co-host Sea-Sun, so NVM.
Same with RoF
Just a sec, let me get you people started

Cyrus [Jan 06 10:19 PM]:   KKE x Qazikol
Cyrus [Jan 06 10:19 PM]:   KKE x Qazikol
Cyrus [Jan 06 10:19 PM]:   KKE x Qazikol
Cyrus [Jan 06 10:19 PM]:   KKE x Qazikol
Cyrus [Jan 06 10:19 PM]:   KKE x Qazikol


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on January 13, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
You're welcome


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blue on January 13, 2018, 04:09:58 PM
If everyone takes breaks ur just making it worse

Un less you were the problem like Lusamine


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: TotesAngel on January 27, 2018, 01:03:15 PM
Best TWG ever.

(https://i.imgur.com/LqdLkIr.png)

Crying shame that it ended up like TWG IX :(


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 27, 2018, 03:47:52 PM
XI*
IX's problem was that Lenny got MVP, not that it died


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 27, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
XI*
IX's problem was that Lenny got MVP, not that it died
damn smooooth 8)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: TotesAngel on January 27, 2018, 04:18:50 PM
XI*
IX's problem was that Lenny got MVP, not that it died
ooh XD


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 08:43:56 PM
We should specify the difference between Abilities and Attributes. Basically, Abilities are active, and Attributes are passive.
The Seer choosing who to check each night. The Guardian choosing who to protect each night. The Brutal Wolf choosing who to kill after dying. The Necromancer choosing who to revive.
 Basically, if there's a decision to be made, it's probably an ability.
Colour/alignment/morality or whatever gimmicks are in the game. The Insomniac learning who visits them. The Wolfsbane surviving their attacker. The Coroner learning the colours of dead people.

Does this seem accurate? Am I overcomplicating things?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 08:48:33 PM
The wolfsbane has the ability to survive their attacker. The insomniac has the ability to see who visits them. These are both attributes and abilities, with abilities being a subset of attributes. In TWG, the only things which can be classed as attributes and not abilities are colour and name of role, unless there's something else I forgot.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
I think of Attributes as like Abilities in Pokemon (the fact that they are called Abilities does not help my case but whatever), and Abilities like Pokemon Moves. To me these are very different things which should be treated differently.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 08:54:05 PM
Imo, it makes more sense to adhere to the dictionary definitions of attribute and ability. Therefore, attributes refer to colour/name of role, abilities refer to other aspects of the role. Abilities can then be split into passive and active, as you suggested via PM, if you feel that distinction needs to be made.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 08:55:33 PM
Maybe have Attributes (colour, allignment), Abilities (Coroner, Wolfsbane), and Actions (Seer, Guardian)?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 08:59:03 PM
I reckon abilities as in aspects of a role which are not colour/name/team should be all classed as one group since it is common for them to be treated as such. then we split them into Active Abilities and Passive Abilities, making sure to include the word abilities in both of them to signal that they are related.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 09:03:56 PM
But my whole point is that they shouldn't be seen as being related
Just because a mistake is common doesn't mean we should encourage it


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 09:04:36 PM
Why shouldn't they be seen as related? They are.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
If I am a Seer, I am choosing to use my Action on another user. I do have to send the host a PM confirming my choice.
If I am an Insomniac, I am not choosing to learn information about my visitors. I am not sending in a PM.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 28, 2018, 09:07:18 PM
I think of Attributes as like Abilities in Pokemon (the fact that they are called Abilities does not help my case but whatever), and Abilities like Pokemon Moves. To me these are very different things which should be treated differently.
Well you aren't the entire TWG fanbase


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 09:08:07 PM
If I am a Seer, I am choosing to use my Action on another user. I do have to send the host a PM confirming my choice.
If I am an Insomniac, I am not choosing to learn information about my visitors. I am not sending in a PM.
Both of those are still abilities though, they are related.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 28, 2018, 09:14:15 PM
You agree that Passive and Active should be split up, I'm just suggesting calling them Abilities and Actions because alliteration is nice and it makes role descriptions less awkward. "Bomb - Blows up when someone uses an Action on them..." vs "Bomb - Blows up when someone uses an Active Ability on them", for example.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 28, 2018, 09:16:16 PM
Well, I mean, we've been using those things synonymous since forever
Don't know why it has to be such an issue rn

I feel like it might just cause more confusion
like, I don't think I will be willing to remember in detail the difference between ability and action when I've been using thing interchangeably since forever


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 28, 2018, 09:17:37 PM
You agree that Passive and Active should be split up, I'm just suggesting calling them Abilities and Actions because alliteration is nice and it makes role descriptions less awkward. "Bomb - Blows up when someone uses an Action on them..." vs "Bomb - Blows up when someone uses an Active Ability on them", for example.
Action can be used as a synonym for active ability. Don't see a problem with that. Passive ability doesn't really need a synonym as it's rare that role descriptions will refer to just passive abilities.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 29, 2018, 04:57:46 AM
Well you aren't the entire TWG fanbase
But I agree with him.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on January 29, 2018, 05:05:26 AM
But I agree with him.
But neither of you are the entire TWG fanbase.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on January 29, 2018, 05:10:53 AM
But neither of you are the entire TWG fanbase.
But we are a part of it. So we should vote on this issue.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 29, 2018, 05:13:20 AM
sorry just ignore me
was genuinely not in a good mood then ^


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on January 29, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
I don't think this is a huge thing that needs to reorganize all the roles into new categories. Just specify whether or not you need to submit an action for the night, or if the host will PM you regardless of what you do, in the role description.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 29, 2018, 02:34:06 PM
We already do that though
We just need to specify between actions and abilities for certain roles
Like the Coroner shouldn't automatically blow up because they see that the Bomb is green


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on January 29, 2018, 03:26:29 PM
The role description for the bomb should say they will blow up if someone visits them


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 29, 2018, 05:17:43 PM
Yes. We need to clarify that the Coroner does not visit anyone, or the Insomniac, or any of these roles.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 29, 2018, 05:20:31 PM
i guess have hosts make a note of who visits and who doesn't in lounge or game topic


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on January 29, 2018, 05:41:20 PM
Actions can refer to active abilities
Abilities can refer to active and passive abilities
Attributes can refer to other aspects of a role
Don't think it needs to be complicated further than that


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: A Red Cube on January 30, 2018, 05:21:42 AM
Oof
I forgot to change ANDO
Oof
Help xd
BTW cyrus before he left was going to come host so no more Co hosting rip


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 31, 2018, 10:12:36 AM
BTW the next game can start a lounge when it's N4 for RoF


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on January 31, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
That's Lore's, right?
Once that ends we can send our games to Qazikol


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 31, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
yep


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 07, 2018, 07:33:59 AM
Nickito, update roles.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 07, 2018, 08:28:40 AM
Okay I will update when I come home from school


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on February 09, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
I really wish we could just isolate posts without having to find them....


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 09, 2018, 01:25:48 PM
I really wish we could just isolate posts without having to find them....
"We'll update the forum any day now!"

- Matt, 2015


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 09, 2018, 03:56:41 PM
Okay I will update when I come home from school
It's been 3 school days :P


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 09, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
okay over the weekend


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 10, 2018, 09:44:20 PM
How to host a game?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 10, 2018, 09:44:49 PM
Is there a queue and requirements for being a host?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 10, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
1 topic down, sir


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:11:05 PM
Proposal: If a game requires more than one reroll due to a mistake by the host it is skipped over.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 10, 2018, 10:11:52 PM
And if not due to a mistake by the host?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:12:22 PM
idk I'd say that counts too but that proved controversial in the shoutbox


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 10:13:43 PM
I mean, this was no way Lore's fault
I wasn't trying to purposely ruin the game or anything
i just got confused and thought Kanga was cohost because that's how it went, pre-reroll

And, he shouldn't have to suffer consequences because of something I did


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:14:37 PM
just for the interest of moving things along
Rerolls are rare enough that if two rerolls happen in a single game because of the players, there's something wrong with the game design anyway


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 10:15:38 PM
What? The game design is good. There is nothing that correlates with game design and what the players do.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 10:16:02 PM
First game was a host error. Second game was a player error. Don't see how these two relate to game desing.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:17:18 PM
I'm just saying the odds of two rerolls where the host is not at fault are so low we shouldn't account for them
And even if this does happen we are smart enough to make the exception


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 10, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
...he says, while apparently not wanting to make the exception


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:20:04 PM
A Normal Day Outside should go again
The multiple rerolls just reminded me to suggest this rule which I have been thinking about for a while


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 10:23:03 PM
A Normal Day Outside should go again
The multiple rerolls just reminded me to suggest this rule which I have been thinking about for a while
What are you even saying?

KitKatExtreme [Feb 11 12:14 AM]:   I thought you wanted a skipped game?
Nickito [Feb 11 12:14 AM]:   I mean I do

Feel like these contradict


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:24:16 PM
On one hand, I want to move past this game and keep going through the schedule. However, I acknowledge that this isn't fair to Lore and we should play his game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 10, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Is there a queue and requirements for being a host?
?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 10, 2018, 10:34:23 PM
?
You have to get MVP


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
is that even a thing anymore
I thought it was just played 3 games


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 10, 2018, 10:36:33 PM
is that even a thing anymore
I thought it was just played 3 games
shh


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 10, 2018, 10:37:10 PM
I played more then 3 games so

/in for mod


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 10, 2018, 10:38:40 PM
I'd say you should also know the forum's meta. You seem constantly confused by what's going on and you apparently don't know the difference between Biased Independents and Unbiased Independents


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 10, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
I'd say you should also know the forum's meta. You seem constantly confused by what's going on and you apparently don't know the difference between Biased Independents and Unbiased Independents
cuz I didnot read role cards

But when creating a setup I definitely will


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 11, 2018, 12:10:20 AM
No offense but it's kinda problematic if you are even PLAYING without having read role descriptions of the roles you are playing with



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Yeah

Also did I join queue


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 11, 2018, 01:11:15 AM
There's no queue


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Blatant Wolf on February 11, 2018, 01:22:00 AM
How do I host?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 11, 2018, 01:22:53 AM
1 topic down, sir


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Ducky Momo on February 11, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
Why does this not have TWG at the start of the title, it kinda bugs me.

http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=40225.0


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 11, 2018, 03:01:13 PM
Okay Nickito, update, it's Sunday and I even updated the roles tournament.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 12, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Updated roles
I have two suggestions/requests
1. Someone still needs to take game statistics
2. I've got a tip for people making a new role. If it cannot be easily summarised in 3 grammatically correct sentences or less, it's not a good role.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 12, 2018, 07:20:03 PM
Updated roles
I have two suggestions/requests
1. Someone still needs to take game statistics
2. I've got a tip for people making a new role. If it cannot be easily summarised in 3 grammatically correct sentences or less, it's not a good role.
Is this because of Vinnie and his MiB/variants?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 12, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
It's because of the Reverser


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 12, 2018, 07:26:06 PM
It's because of the Reverser
But the Trickster Wolf is the complicated one.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 12, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
Trickster Wolf can easily be summed up in one sentence, "The Trickster Wolf causes two people to switch roles"
Reverser is probably the most complicated role ever used in a game


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 12, 2018, 07:30:21 PM
I can take over statistics but not tonight
Will try to get to it on Friday though, as I have no school.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 12, 2018, 07:46:24 PM
I will send you what I have so far. I did games up to 50, name changes and all.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 12, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Thanks
but
send it to me on Friday


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 13, 2018, 05:27:48 AM
Can... can we ban Trump impersonation?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: A Red Cube on February 13, 2018, 05:32:41 AM
why would you ban the president of America from an English forum? Sad! in all seriousness, I don't think that that's needed


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on February 13, 2018, 08:47:59 AM
Can... can we ban Trump impersonation?
Please do. But I will admit it’s annoying at this point.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 13, 2018, 08:50:21 AM
Tip: If people do it there is probably a reason. Could be Maniac strategy, could be something else. As long as impersonating Trump does not involve being rude it should be fine.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on February 13, 2018, 08:52:08 AM
Tip: If people do it there is probably a reason. Could be Maniac strategy, could be something else. As long as impersonating Trump does not involve being rude it should be fine.
Maybe, but it’s getting annoying, to me at least.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 13, 2018, 08:55:35 AM
Tip: If people do it there is probably a reason. Could be Maniac strategy, could be something else. As long as impersonating Trump does not involve being rude it should be fine.
What if we banned intentionally annoying other players into quitting TWG


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 13, 2018, 08:56:53 AM
What if we banned intentionally annoying other players into quitting TWG
That should be a rule but impersonating Trump has not caused anyone to leave. And hopefully nobody will leave over something that small.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on February 13, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
If someone left because of that, maybe it's not as small as you think?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 13, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
RV left more because of the deal with rerolling and me and kangablue I think
not really because of his Trump posts


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on February 13, 2018, 05:39:13 PM
I mean I'll admit that the Trump posts were so damn obnoxious and helped me realize how awfully annoying the community is so lol I'm done with TWG :)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 13, 2018, 07:01:37 PM
RV left more because of the deal with rerolling and me and kangablue I think
not really because of his Trump posts
He claims that people were breaking rules so he left. I didn't see him mention Trump posts.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 13, 2018, 07:02:33 PM
yeah that's what she literally said
assuming you meant to quote Green


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 13, 2018, 07:03:49 PM
yeah that's what she literally said
assuming you meant to quote Green
a·gree·ment
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling; a position or result of agreeing.
"the governments failed to reach agreement"
synonyms: accord, concurrence, consensus


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 13, 2018, 07:16:33 PM
but she was agreeing with you
do you really need to agree to her agreeing with you


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 13, 2018, 07:22:07 PM
but she was agreeing with you
do you really need to agree to her agreeing with you
She was replying to Green.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 13, 2018, 08:08:57 PM
well ya coulda just said "agreed"


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 14, 2018, 05:33:13 AM
well ya coulda just said "agreed"
Why does it matter? I said two sentences about me agreeing and now three people are complaining. Why?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on February 17, 2018, 12:53:18 PM
Poll time, it's pretty self explanatory and if not check the Community Polls topic


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on February 17, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
I say yes. Always.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 17, 2018, 03:36:04 PM
1 or 2 both work for me but I prefer option 1


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 17, 2018, 07:00:52 PM
What's the point of a last PM
As I think we should be moving away from PMs not toward them I'll say no


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 17, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
PMs are what make the forum meta more unique and interesting. If you want a type of mafia without them, you've already got plenty of choice.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 17, 2018, 08:17:44 PM
yeah that's a good point


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 18, 2018, 09:33:21 AM
houston we gotta problem
http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18405


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Raven on February 18, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
Imo, a last PM shouldn't exist in the first place simply because a last will is meant to be announced to the whole town and not a certain person just so that the dead person cannot do anything in the game after their death. A PM instead of a will means that the person can still technically manipulate (an) event(s) in the game.

If there is a last PM, there should be a word/character limit because if someone with lots of findings will just pass the entire game to someone and they might even give them a strategy or something like that which can't be done through a last will. No loopholes btw.



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 18, 2018, 10:03:58 AM
Well, the whole point of TWG is to encourage strategy/potential manipulation IMO


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on February 18, 2018, 08:59:36 PM
I believe NaCl is hosting next, right?
He can set up his game topic soon.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kirby on February 19, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
me and hg
i asked if hg still wanted to host he said yes


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: SCP 457 on March 28, 2018, 01:56:44 AM
looking for a cohost for aaei

hmu


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on March 28, 2018, 12:03:09 PM
Maybe we shouldn't do co hosts when we're at 14 sign ups in this one


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on March 28, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Maybe you should sign up


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Abu on March 28, 2018, 03:37:10 PM
Maybe you should sign up
Good idea.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on March 28, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
I don't want to play in this one


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on March 28, 2018, 04:27:41 PM
looking for a cohost for aaei

hmu
If you're taking on beginner hosts then I'm interested


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on March 29, 2018, 04:49:12 AM
At this point co-hosts are a very bad idea because it's pretty hard to fill a game, and we don't need another person being unable to play.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 19, 2018, 05:55:27 PM
Do we have a protocol for a tie?
Here's my thought. Give plenty of time for the players to sort it out, maybe even up to 48 hours. If it becomes clear that no one will change their vote at all, randomly select the lynchee from the players not involved in the tie.
If anyone has an alternative I would like to hear it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Rias on April 20, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
Hey guys.

Thanks to the new Recycling Board, one of the rules here are automatically covered by its own system as I tested two posts [deletion, one from the current game board and one from the other topic]. So there you have one rule fully covered. :)

edit: The one who made those boards and who made that kind of system is proven to be Matt as per time difference.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Rias on April 20, 2018, 07:57:45 AM
There's one downside though - clever people can even delete their own post from Recycling Board to avoid further suspicion.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on April 20, 2018, 11:25:39 AM
Do we have a protocol for a tie?
Here's my thought. Give plenty of time for the players to sort it out, maybe even up to 48 hours. If it becomes clear that no one will change their vote at all, randomly select the lynchee from the players not involved in the tie.
If anyone has an alternative I would like to hear it.
^^^^ We need to figure this out right now, because I just realized why something happened.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 20, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
also seriously we need to find someone who has enough posts at the right time to get game summaries up
I can do it, probably
worst case scenario we get Joe to delete some posts?

EDIT: I've already done up to Perfection, I've got it saved in a word file


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 21, 2018, 04:13:36 PM
I know The Sun Temple got deleted, but does anyone at least remember who won?

EDIT: I finished the game statistics aside from The Sun Temple's winner


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on April 22, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
Imo Bandero has a ton of space on his post, I'd just have him add the game summaries to it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 22, 2018, 05:08:59 PM
Game summaries are over 20000 characters so that won't work


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Rias on April 22, 2018, 07:20:10 PM
Changing vote from Host Discretion - because there may be some games that do not allow "the last PM", due to either gameplay, balance or even gimmick reasons. Still, the feature can be a bit safe to execute since you don't have to worry about taking on your last post being viewed by literally, everyone, some hosts don't want any person to do it, though.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 23, 2018, 07:19:13 PM
I think this poll is settled, can we get the TWG Stats poll up when ready


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on April 23, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
I thought you were doing the TWG Stats? Hence this:
I know The Sun Temple got deleted, but does anyone at least remember who won?

EDIT: I finished the game statistics aside from The Sun Temple's winner


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 23, 2018, 07:53:17 PM
I did them, but you wanted Bandero to own the post. Multiple options have been presented, so I think a poll would be a good idea.
I guess hold sign ups for Stats, I can just PM the winner the statistics and they can update from now on


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on April 23, 2018, 08:02:08 PM
Ohh okay I see what you're saying now. I only wanted Bandero to own the post because I thought he could fit the summaries in the posts he already has.

I'm all for making things as easy as possible, so I'd like KKE to just take it because she has the next available edit-able post (we'd just get Joe to delete Marlene's.)  

But anyways. Nominate away for owner of the game stats post:

1. KKE
2. Nickito
3. Bandero


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 23, 2018, 08:03:13 PM
I'll nominate myself and Bandero
@Bandero if you don't want this you don't have to take it


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 23, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
I don't mind using my post to hold the stats but
honestly
it would prolly be beter if someone else does the actual thing for me
and then sends me the code for it
so I can copy and paste it into my post


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 23, 2018, 08:04:05 PM
I've done that already. Assuming you can add MVPs and stuff as they're announced


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 23, 2018, 08:04:31 PM
Sure why not


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on April 24, 2018, 07:31:17 AM
Anyone else? The poll will go up tomorrow.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Pizzaccino on April 24, 2018, 07:59:36 AM
Actually, can I switch my vote? I voted Yes, but I’m going to switch to “Host’s Decision”.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Bandero on April 24, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
I'd rather not do that right now, I'll stick to the Games Played and possibly the name changes chart


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Nickito on April 24, 2018, 01:29:16 PM
if you're going to do Games Played can you also do stuff like Games Hosted


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Bandero on April 24, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
if you're going to do Games Played can you also do stuff like Games Hosted
I'll probably do that too


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Leia on April 24, 2018, 02:25:40 PM
Actually, can I switch my vote? I voted Yes, but I’m going to switch to “Host’s Decision”.
Why are people still voting, this was an issue 2 months ago. It's probably partially my fault because I forgot to take the poll down (doing that now), but it ended in a solid yes IIRC.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Pizzaccino on April 24, 2018, 03:16:44 PM
Why are people still voting, this was an issue 2 months ago. It's probably partially my fault because I forgot to take the poll down (doing that now), but it ended in a solid yes IIRC.
Okay, then nevermind. XD I’ll keep it on yes.

Also, I did voted 2 months ago. I just saw this again. I didn’t vote barely today.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Leia on April 25, 2018, 05:12:47 AM
Polls going up this afternoon EST, so get your last minute nominations in while you still can


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Atomic on April 25, 2018, 10:50:30 AM
Can I nominate myself? If so, I do just that.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [GAME STATS OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Leia on April 25, 2018, 01:52:03 PM
Vote up, y'all


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Leia on April 26, 2018, 10:55:25 AM
This will probably end Friday night unless there is a tie or very close to a tie, in which case I'll end it Saturday night


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Rias on April 26, 2018, 10:56:27 AM
Ack! Accidentally voted for KKE when I meant Nickito... :v

note: if anyone needs me to post proof, say so.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Leia on April 26, 2018, 05:21:31 PM
Ack! Accidentally voted for KKE when I meant Nickito... :v

note: if anyone needs me to post proof, say so.
Proof is always nice but I doubt it matters that much


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Leia on April 27, 2018, 10:24:55 AM
SOmeone needs to break this tie


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Nickito on April 27, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
What if you did another poll just between KKE and me and let the Sky voters break the tie


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Leia on April 27, 2018, 06:05:16 PM
Alright the tie has been broken, final tally is 10-8-4. Congrats KKE on your new post thing!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 27, 2018, 06:07:46 PM
ard
i get game statisdicks


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Nickito on April 27, 2018, 06:14:39 PM
okay I'll PM you everything up to date in 2 PMs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR GAME STATS OWNER]
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 28, 2018, 05:38:38 AM
There are a few tiny areas that need to be fixed :p
but I think I got mostly everything


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Faiz on April 28, 2018, 06:25:29 AM
ard
i get game statisdicks
you sure like statistics dont you


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on April 28, 2018, 06:58:41 AM
Yeah and something else.

Bye


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 28, 2018, 07:02:15 AM
i'm asexual


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on April 28, 2018, 07:09:42 AM
Uh huh


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on April 28, 2018, 07:12:03 AM
Which is why strikethrough was added. ^-^


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on May 11, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
Should sign-ups for the next TWG start by now?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kirby on May 11, 2018, 03:14:18 PM
yes


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on May 11, 2018, 06:38:31 PM
I am sorry to announce but I will be quitting TWG. I've lost interest now. It isn't anything with the people, I just feel bored of playing and it's dead in general.
If anyone is interested in wanting to host The Penitentiary please lmk
otherwise I will just host that either with Kowhai or just myself (if we need people)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on May 11, 2018, 06:50:54 PM
With more and more people quitting and the inactivity in the current game, TWG is probably going to end up dead


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on May 11, 2018, 06:54:14 PM
With more and more people quitting and the inactivity in the current game, TWG is probably going to end up dead
I mean, first Cooking Games, then Forum Survivor (although we might reboot it next month)…

The thing is, it’s more of the fact that people aren’t interested anymore in these games, or the forum in general.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on May 11, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
Team games: not even once
Seriously every other player aside from me did nothing. How was this ever going to work out?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on May 11, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
"Everyone is stupid except me" ~Homer Simpson


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on May 11, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
Tbh, my role didn’t have any value except being safe once from being lynched, if the town lynches you…


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: hyewon on May 11, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
With more and more people quitting and the inactivity in the current game, TWG is probably going to end up dead

Wow really


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on June 07, 2018, 07:31:52 PM
jesus christ
twg reaaaallly died eh?

oh well
rip rip


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on June 08, 2018, 10:25:59 AM
jesus christ
twg reaaaallly died eh?

oh well
rip rip


yeah kinda

there's no way we'll fill signups for the next game

perhaps we'll have to scale all of the games down and have mini-TWGs


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on June 08, 2018, 12:05:47 PM
That's kinda a shame, it would've been the first time for me to host and it dies at 109.
Survivor died
TWG is dying still
What next? The whole Forum?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kirby on June 09, 2018, 07:52:41 AM
when did it start to die?
that time we had 3 rerolls in 1 twg?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on June 09, 2018, 07:57:12 AM
when did it start to die?
that time we had 3 rerolls in 1 twg?

ANDO wasn't the case I think.

Age of Mythology had a lot of inactivity, whereas the game before it, Dostoevetsky's exile had 20 players and since that game, it became a downward spiral of TWG.

After Age of Mythology, we had Return to the Courtroom, which started with 16 following KKE quitting from TWG.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on June 14, 2018, 05:40:34 PM
Can we have a 12 player game with a bunch all humans and wolves plus a seer?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on June 16, 2018, 11:52:35 AM
Can we have a 12 player game with a bunch all humans and wolves plus a seer?
maybe


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on June 16, 2018, 12:48:05 PM
18 player games aren't cutting it rn and i wanna go back to basics


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: MariaYuki on June 16, 2018, 02:04:13 PM
18 player games aren't cutting it rn and i wanna go back to basics
We should do a TWG with the same role list as the original and call it "Back to the Basics"


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on June 16, 2018, 02:27:53 PM
IDK if we should do it the exact same as the original since TWG has changed so much since then, but I like think it should be about as simple as the original.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kirby on June 18, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
i finish summer in 4 weeks
thats when ill be able to play twg again


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on June 24, 2018, 01:38:55 PM
We should do a TWG with the same role list as the original and call it "Back to the Basics"
the original has a bottom 3 role list of all time

btw someone should probably take the bidding poll since it looks like Kowhai is gone


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 24, 2018, 01:44:15 PM
the original has a bottom 3 role list of all time

btw someone should probably take the bidding poll since it looks like Kowhai is gone
I could volunteer if people are alright with that.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on June 24, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
we should probably do a poll,


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 24, 2018, 02:03:21 PM
we should probably do a poll,
Sure. Ask who wants to do it, then make a poll (or have people say who should/shouldn’t take the bidding poll.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on June 24, 2018, 03:27:32 PM
the original has a bottom 3 role list of all time

btw someone should probably take the bidding poll since it looks like Kowhai is gone
I love statistics so I'd be glad to do it! I have a few months of time that I promise means activity here on the Forum so this would be something I'd be glad to manage during that time!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on June 25, 2018, 05:48:31 AM
Unclear if you already have plans, but I'm just going to go ahead and do the thing I did a few pages ago for game stats. I'll delete this if you do already have some poll planned.

Nominate away for owner of the bidding poll, you are allowed to nominate yourself and you have 24 hours (or more if people want me to extend it because you don't think 24 hours will be enough time, just ask. I've also tried to already put down people who seem to have already nominated themselves, but tell me if I'm wrong about it and I can remove you):

1. DeluxePizza
2. xoBasicFaith
3. YukiYuuki
4. Marlene


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: MariaYuki on June 25, 2018, 10:57:00 AM
I nominate myself.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Rias on June 26, 2018, 05:55:01 AM
Nominating myself.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER NEEDED]
Post by: Leia on June 26, 2018, 07:30:34 AM
Alright, you get 48 hours (until Thursday morning EST) to vote for who you want to own the bidding topic, person with the most votes after 48 hours will get the topic. If there is a tie for first at the end of the voting period, there will be a 24 hour tiebreaking poll afterwards.

Vote!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on June 27, 2018, 12:24:48 PM
Looks like Danny's winning for now.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: Abu on June 27, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
I voted DeluxePizza because he is consistently active and seems very involved with the community. Faithesque is a bit less active but I would also support her. I haven't seen YukiYuuki or Marlene play TWG as much, but I haven't played for a while, so this vote may be a bit biased. Sorry!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 27, 2018, 06:02:50 PM
I voted DeluxePizza because he is consistently active and seems very involved with the community. Faithesque is a bit less active but I would also support her. I haven't seen YukiYuuki or Marlene play TWG as much, but I haven't played for a while, so this vote may be a bit biased. Sorry!
Thanks Prem! :) I do think that Faith is also capable of doing this as well. She seems to be involved in the community when possible (for her).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on June 27, 2018, 06:44:14 PM
Faithesque is a bit less active but I would also support her.
I do think that Faith is also capable of doing this as well. She seems to be involved in the community when possible (for her).
You two are flattering :) :-[ I do try to involve myself as much as I can but, in recent months, due to everything going on in my life I was unable to do so. Fortunate news is that during summer and the beginning of the school year I can be on daily, and for the next couple of weeks, literally all I can do is be online :smh:


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: Leia on June 28, 2018, 09:05:21 AM
And by an overwhelming majority, DeluxePizza wins the Bidding Topic! Congrats!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 28, 2018, 09:08:03 AM
Thanks everyone! :)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on June 29, 2018, 12:41:28 PM
When are you making the bidding topic?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 29, 2018, 12:42:34 PM
When are you making the bidding topic?
Sometime today. Then, we can get started (if we’re ready to start having more bids).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on June 29, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
And by an overwhelming majority, DeluxePizza wins the Bidding Topic! Congrats!
Congrats, basic white boi ;) ;D


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [BIDDING TOPIC OWNER POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on June 29, 2018, 07:48:24 PM
Congrats, basic white boi ;) ;D
Thanks! :)


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on July 11, 2018, 05:40:50 AM
Poll time! As requested via PM from DeluxePizza, which game should be played next?

• Prem’s bid (even if KK’s bid was next)
• KK’s bid (allow Sky to host again)
• KK’s bid (have someone else host)
• Other



Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 11, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
Alright, I guess I’ll start. I voted that we should start Prem’s bid first for these reasons:

1. Technically, Sky hosted a brand new game instead of KK’s bid due to popular demand and lack of sign-ups; Sky would’ve preferred KK’s game.

2. Sky and hosts that will host upcoming games can just modify their bids for a smaller game, instead of throwing them away and have the bidders that won their chance to host, lose that chance.

At least for me, I would at least want to see if Sky can modify KK’s game first while we play Prem’s modified game. If it’s not possible, then unfortunately, we would have to abandon the game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 11, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
At least for me, I would at least want to see if Sky can modify KK’s game first while we play Prem’s modified game. If it’s not possible, then unfortunately, we would have to abandon the game.
Right. It just doesn't make sense to have to delay a game not once, not twice, but three times.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: hyewon on July 11, 2018, 08:58:21 AM
DP's reasoning kind of hits all the points for my reasoning, so I agree for the same reasons as DP


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 12, 2018, 07:44:28 AM
24 hours has pass. Should we just close the poll now?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 12, 2018, 08:16:25 AM
I think so. The winner is apparent anyway.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 12, 2018, 08:30:36 AM
I think so. The winner is apparent anyway.
Yeah. Well, I’ll go message Prem then to post his game (while he still revise his game if needed).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 12, 2018, 09:33:11 AM
psst
why did you remove the penguin


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Penguin022 on July 12, 2018, 11:15:16 AM
^How could you betray me like this, DP? :(


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 12, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
^How could you betray me like this, DP? :(
I’m sorry. :'( I was putting a different photo of me (but the file was too big, so I have a tiny square).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Leia on July 12, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
Cool alright, the option "Prem's bid (even if KKE's bid was next)" wins and the poll has now been locked.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 12, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
The (kind of) sad part is that 3 people voted Other without explaining what they would prefer instead of the 3 options at top…

Anyways, Prem was already informed earlier that his game is most likely going to win, so we should expect his game sometime today when he’s online.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [UPCOMING GAME POLL]
Post by: Abu on July 12, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Tomorrow.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 23, 2018, 01:40:16 PM
I’m aware we have kinda had to start from scratch these last two games, but am I correct in assuming that the games which were planned to be hosted (see the 7th or 8th post or something) are being abandoned?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 23, 2018, 06:10:45 PM
Here's all I know so far:
For now, we know that KK isn’t going to play TWG, so Sky will attempt to shrink it down (if not, we abandon it). Prem and Blast Burn have been informed about having to shrink down their games. The only person that we don’t know if they plan on continuing TWG is Burn (Hamilton). I’ll message him and hopefully he answers around before voting ends. If he doesn’t answer, we may just cancel his game.
In regards to The Penitentiary: KK handed over hosting rights to Sky. When he has the opportunity, Sky will attempt to shrink it down. If he can't reach a conclusion, which I doubt will occur, then the game will be abandoned.

In regards to An Abnormal Evening Inside: Strife has confirmed that he still wishes to host his game. Whether his current state of activity will change matters or not remains a question.

In regards to Wait For It: DP stated that he wasn't sure if Burn would continue playing TWG, but seeing as he played in Kainu Mosir (before he was wolfed N1), it's safe to say Burn's still involved in the TWG community. We're just awaiting his answer to determine what he wants to do with his game, whether that be shrink it down and host it, have someone else host it, or abandon the game altogether.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 23, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
Yeah, I forgot to message Burn about it lol.

Anyways, after I host this current game, bidding will be closed and we will began voting.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 23, 2018, 09:48:02 PM
Thanks for the answers guys. I’ll have a look at my game (been awhile since I made it) and I’ll make a decision on it. Not sure what I’ll do with it.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on July 27, 2018, 09:30:08 AM
even with little internet - I'm sure I can reach something with The Penitentiary since it doesn't take long to update anyway - I'm sure it will be back before we all know it.

I have full faith in the bid and even if I have to take a few Humans out like DP did to Kainu Mosir - I will.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 27, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
I have full faith in the bid and even if I have to take a few Humans out like DP did to Kainu Mosir - I will.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Bandero on July 27, 2018, 10:25:30 AM
even with little internet - I'm sure I can reach something with The Penitentiary since it doesn't take long to update anyway - I'm sure it will be back before we all know it.

I have full faith in the bid and even if I have to take a few Humans out like DP did to Kainu Mosir - I will.

If you think you will be active enough to host it, that's great, but if you're not sure, it's probably best to give the bid to someone else.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 27, 2018, 11:01:45 AM
If you think you will be active enough to host it, that's great, but if you're not sure, it's probably best to give the bid to someone else.
That's a good point. I really don't think that this bid should be delayed any further. Doing so would mark the third time The Penitentiary has been delayed. At this point, it's either host or relinquish, because I'd truly like to play this game and if it's delayed any further than the executive decision to cancel it altogether would likely be made.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on July 27, 2018, 12:09:03 PM
That's a good point. I really don't think that this bid should be delayed any further. Doing so would mark the third time The Penitentiary has been delayed. At this point, it's either host or relinquish, because I'd truly like to play this game and if it's delayed any further than the executive decision to cancel it altogether would likely be made.

I agree with you there. I could not host The Penitentiary after Back to Basics anyway due to the hosting rules. I probably will try my best to host it as I have a good feeling I'll be active enough to host it - if anyone wishes to back me up in case I'm unable, I'll try and let you all know at the first instance.

Btw, I finally have a 4 week summer holiday so more time for me.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 27, 2018, 02:16:22 PM
I agree with you there. I could not host The Penitentiary after Back to Basics anyway due to the hosting rules. I probably will try my best to host it as I have a good feeling I'll be active enough to host it - if anyone wishes to back me up in case I'm unable, I'll try and let you all know at the first instance.

Btw, I finally have a 4 week summer holiday so more time for me.
Alright! That's fair.
I volunteer to be back-up host


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on July 28, 2018, 06:34:59 AM
HoS, if you're still planning on hosting the Penitentiary, now would probably be a good time to start sign-ups as there are less than 8 players alive in the current game. If not, now would be a good time to pass it along to somebody else.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 28, 2018, 10:22:18 AM
HoS, if you're still planning on hosting the Penitentiary, now would probably be a good time to start sign-ups as there are less than 8 players alive in the current game. If not, now would be a good time to pass it along to somebody else.
^^^^^ Do it now tbh.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 28, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
I pmed him about this so that maybe he'd see it sooner


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 28, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
@Sky Either now, give it to someone else, or abandon the game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 28, 2018, 03:03:33 PM
I pmed him about this so that maybe he'd see it sooner
When I pmed him I also asked him if I could host it if he didn't think he could


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 29, 2018, 12:15:10 PM
It's been about 21 hours. What have you guys decided to do about this?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Rias on July 29, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
I was also waiting for another TWG to pop-up :v


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 29, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
If it’s 24 hours since my game and he still can’t at least post the fate of KK’s bid, then we may have to cancel it and go into the next game.

Also, starting bidding voting in about 5-20 minutes.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 29, 2018, 12:40:52 PM
If it’s 24 hours since my game and he still can’t at least post the fate of KK’s bid, then we may have to cancel it and go into the next game.

Also, starting bidding voting in about 5-20 minutes.
Alright.
#biddinghype


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on July 29, 2018, 04:07:51 PM
Yeah, I kinda wanna just skip to Cosmic's game.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on July 29, 2018, 06:15:34 PM
It’s been 36 hours, let’s skip to cosmic’s game. We can always come back to HoS’s game once he’s active again.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
Oh right I’m hosting now uh right


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
Uh you want me to try and scale down the role list or are we going with 18?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on July 29, 2018, 06:30:19 PM
Scale down the role list to 12-14 range.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:32:10 PM
Shall do.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:40:43 PM
This is the current game:


TWG: Wait For It

Twist: Deaths are delayed a cycle. The lynchee will be killed the night after they are lynched (ex. Leia is lynched Day 1, she dies after Night 2 ends). Their faction will be announced when they die (wolf or not wolf). The same goes for anyone dying at night - they will die at the end of the day, unaware they have been attacked until that time (ex. KitKatExtreme is wolfed Night 1, she will die after Day 1 ends, unaware she is dying until it happens). If the Maniac is lynched, the fact they are Maniac will be announced the next morning, and the person they decide to kill will die the next day. Brutal Wolf victims will die at the same time as the Brutal Wolf. Seer, Shaman and Insomniac results will still be given at normal times (unless people want these to be delayed too). Guardian actions will be delayed (ex. Leia is attacked Night 3, but the Guardian guards her. Leia will not die Day 3). Necromancer won’t be affected. Arsonist will only be affected when they decide to ignite - dousing will happen the night the action is given).

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Necromancer
Cop
Wolfsbane

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Wolf Shaman
Mason

Arsonist
Amnesiac
Maniac

I’m thinking remove Amnesiac, Wolfsbane, 2 Humans and Disguised potentially? Feel free to suggest other alternatives.

Also do read the gimmick again and suggest either changes or if you want it removed.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Rias on July 29, 2018, 06:43:44 PM
What does an Arsonist work?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:45:08 PM
In this particular game, the Arsonist will select a dousing target. They will be doused on that same night. However, once the Arsonist chooses to ignite, their targets will not die that night, but when the next day ends.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on July 29, 2018, 06:49:51 PM
Wolfsbane/Insomniac/Amnesiac/Wolf should be removed imo.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:51:07 PM
You guys fine with 3 Humans then? Just didn’t want to have too many in, but if you’d prefer insomniac out it’s cool.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Penguin022 on July 29, 2018, 06:52:46 PM
I want humans to stay so there is more of a mystery for the Mason (and I personally don't have too much of a problem with humans).


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on July 29, 2018, 06:54:08 PM
I’d remove Insomniac/Amnes/Wolf/Human


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on July 29, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
Actually nevermind Penguin’s logic with the human makes sense go with his


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 29, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
I typed 2 replies and both were made irrelevant lol. I’ll start sign ups now.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 29, 2018, 07:25:44 PM
Yeah, let’s skip Sky’s for now, but I will see if he can even host it at all. Idk. I probably feel like the game should be eventually cancelled if he can’t even be online to even have a back up host of his own…


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 29, 2018, 07:38:37 PM
Yeah, let’s skip Sky’s for now, but I will see if he can even host it at all. Idk. I probably feel like the game should be eventually cancelled if he can’t even be online to even have a back up host of his own…
Exactly. We've delayed the game for too long now. I'm sure KKE wouldn't mind since she doesn't truly care for TWG anymore anyhow.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 31, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Uh question
Are we now doing 48 hour days as the norm?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 31, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
Uh question
Are we now doing 48 hour days as the norm?
I honestly don’t really know.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Cosmic on July 31, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
I mean what do people want for this game I’m hosting? Would you prefer normal size days or longer ones?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on July 31, 2018, 05:05:44 PM
I noticed that Strife’s game was skipped as well (I think), so if he can’t as well, then there goes another game.

I mean what do people want for this game I’m hosting? Would you prefer normal size days or longer ones?
Personally, probably normal size, unless if more discussion is required/requested by the players.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Sean on July 31, 2018, 05:08:48 PM
24 hours plz


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on July 31, 2018, 05:10:09 PM
I noticed that Strife’s game was skipped as well (I think), so if he can’t as well, then there goes another game.

Personally, probably normal size, unless if more discussion is required/requested by the players.
We skipped Strife's game because he hasn't been online or active, unfortunately.
Also, yeah, DP summarized my day length preference


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on August 01, 2018, 08:38:04 AM
In regards to KKE's game, it seems Sky was finally able to find a small window of time to respond to me what he would do with The Penitentiary. Here's what I pmed him about the game:
Hi Sky,
If you haven't noticed or had an opportunity to respond to yet, on the headquarters topic Leia and DP have strongly suggested that you either begin sign ups for The Penitentiary now if you're able to host it or, if you don't think you can, then bestow  hosting rights on someone else. If you decide to do the latter, I'm more than happy to host.

Here's what he responded with:
I'd let you do it if that's okay - lets not waste more time.

-parents = too stupid.

So I'll let you guys decide what to do with this in mind.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on August 07, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
Since KKE left TWG, we should have someone else to update the MVPs here.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on August 07, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
I volunteer to do this, if no one else minds.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on August 10, 2018, 02:58:13 PM
It would be smartest to have either Moana or Nick do it imo just because they have the next available posts, but sign-up below anyways, 36 hour nomination period, 72 hours for voting (unless there's a clear winner and people want to move on), 24 more if there's a tie.

Nominations for Next MVP Topic Updater/Owner:
1. Moana
2. Nick
3. Faithesque


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [NOMINATIONS NEEDED]
Post by: Abu on August 10, 2018, 04:43:26 PM
I would be fine doing it, certainly.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [NOMINATIONS NEEDED]
Post by: Bandero on August 11, 2018, 01:59:25 PM
Nick left TWG I think


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [NOMINATIONS NEEDED]
Post by: DeluxeFaith on August 11, 2018, 02:11:58 PM
Nick left TWG I think
That's what I thought too. Though he's been active on the forum, TWG hasn't seen much activity from him


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [NOMINATIONS NEEDED]
Post by: Leia on August 12, 2018, 06:01:03 PM
Ok cool I unominated Nick, now vote you have 3 days unless there's a clear winner early on


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR MVP POST OWNER]
Post by: Q For Quality on August 13, 2018, 10:22:23 PM
Aaaand we have a tie!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR MVP POST OWNER]
Post by: Abu on August 14, 2018, 07:56:54 AM
If it's a tie when the three days end I'll concede to Faith, but if I win I'll still accept!


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters [VOTE FOR MVP POST OWNER]
Post by: Leia on August 15, 2018, 07:10:54 PM
OK cool congrats Moana


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Leia on September 19, 2018, 07:24:33 AM
Should I make another poll or is TWG too dead to care about a current MVP tracker at the moment


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on September 19, 2018, 07:54:25 AM
Meh, just make it and maybe we’ll get some votes.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on January 17, 2019, 08:35:52 PM
bop


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Pizzaccino on January 17, 2019, 08:37:37 PM
Ah, memories. Time goes by...


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Kowhai on February 28, 2019, 10:59:59 PM
werewolves are awesome


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on February 28, 2019, 11:14:14 PM
awoooooooooooooooo
awoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
awooooooooooooo


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on April 02, 2019, 09:41:07 AM
Guess this place deserves a major revival


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 02, 2019, 10:16:15 AM
I assume so too..?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: DeluxeFaith on April 02, 2019, 05:50:50 PM
Let's get this revitalization project started y'all.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 02, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
lets get this bread
lets yeet this wheat
lets gain this grain
lets empower this flour


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Sean on April 06, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
I hope there's another game after the current one, I missed this one.


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Nickito on April 06, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
Even if there isn't another game already set up we can just make one anyway, if people are actually interested


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Chiral of Doom on April 06, 2019, 05:31:19 PM
oh my gawd


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Atomic on July 26, 2019, 05:35:41 AM
Okay so um, no one minds me actually doing the next one, right?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Raven on July 26, 2019, 07:28:42 AM
Okay so um, no one minds me actually doing the next one, right?

nope, go ahead


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: ColtsFan18 on August 05, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
no


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: ColtsFan18 on August 05, 2019, 12:10:42 PM
First of all, you can't host a game, you haven't even played one.
Second of all, what would the rolelist be?


Title: Re: TWG Headquarters
Post by: Ibzy on August 05, 2019, 12:15:16 PM
i feel like this is the start D: of the........

old town road forum raid