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« Reply #3285 on: February 11, 2017, 10:36:35 PM »

1. That's normal.
2. The same goes for TWG in general.
3. There are only so many bad arguments you can make before you start repeating them, at which point they don't count as legitimate reasons.
4. I won't attempt to refute all of them, just the ones which ultimately don't hold up.
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TWGXI - Human (Unfinished)
TWGXII - Brutal Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)
TWGXIII - Coroner (Victory)
TWGXIV - Guardian (Victory)

TWGXV - Hunter (Loss)
TWGXVI - Fool (Loss)

TWGXVII - Seer (Loss, Human MVP)
TWGXIX - Brutal Wolf (Loss, HM)
TWGXX - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGXXI - Human (Loss)
TWGXXII - Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXXIII - Guardian (Victory)
TWGXXIV - Brutal Wolf (Loss, HM)
TWGXXVI - Guardian (Loss)
TWGXXVII - Human (Victory)
TWGXXVIII - Disguised Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)

TWGXXX - Mason (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXXXII - Mason (Victory)

TWGXXXIII - Trapper (Loss)
TWGXXXIV - Human > Cultist (Victory)
TWGXXXV - Cop (Loss)
TWGXXXVI - Guardian (Victory)
TWGXXXVIII - Transporter (Victory)
TWGXXXIX - Mercenary (Unfinished)

TWGXL - Riddler (Loss)
TWGXLI - Amnesiac (Loss)
TWGXLII - Vigilante (Loss, Independent MVP)

TWGXLIII - Guardian (Loss)
TWGXLV - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGXLVI - Maniac (Victory, Independent MVP)

TWGXLVII - Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)
TWGXLVIII - Moderator (Loss)
TWGL - Gentleman > Cultist (Loss)
TWGLI - Wrathful Tenant (Victory)
TWGLII - Wolf (Loss)
TWGLIII - Human (Victory)
TWGLIV - Bounty Hunter (Loss)
TWGLVI - Pack Leader (Victory)
TWGLVII - Amnesiac > Necromancer (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGLVIII - Seer (Loss)

TWGLIX - Maniac (Loss)
TWGLX - Warden (Victory)
TWGLXI - Student (Loss)
TWGLXII - Student > Hunter (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGLXIII - Human > Fool (Loss)
TWGLXV - Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXVI - Maniac (Loss)
TWGLXVII - Wolf (Loss)
TWGLXVIII - Wolf (Victory)

TWGLXIX - Traitor (Victory, HM)
TWGLXX - Amnesiac > Seer (Loss)
TWGLXXI - Tinker (Victory, HM)
TWGLXXII - Seer (Victory, Overall MVP)

TWGLXXIII - Human (Victory)
TWGLXXIV - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGLXXV - Mason (Loss)
TWGLXXVI - Wolf (Loss)

TWGLXXVII - Sun God (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXVIII - Soldier (Loss)
TWGLXXIX - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGLXXX - Insomniac (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXXI - Vigilante (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXII - Human (Loss)
TWGLXXXIII - Psycho (Loss)

TWGLXXXIV - Potion Maker (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXV - Priest (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXVI - Insomniac (Victory)
TWGLXXXVII - Necromancer (Loss)
TWGLXXXVIII - Clairvoyant (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXXIX - Succubus (Victory, Independent MVP)

TWGXC - Wolf Shaman (Victory, Wolf MVP)
TWGXCI - Brutal Wolf (Loss)
TWGXCIII - Eidetic Wolf (Loss)

TWGXCIV - Disguised Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXCV - Hypnotizer (Unfinished)
TWGXCVI - Amnesiac > Kingsley (Loss)
TWGXCVII - Human (Unfinished)
TWGXCVIII - Amnesiac > Wolf Shaman (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGXCIX - Tide Chimer (Victory)
TWGC - Clairvoyant (Loss)
TWGCIII - Necromancer (Victory)
TWGCIV - Knot Expert (Victory)
TWGCVI - Snezhinka (Loss)
TWGCXVIII - Mason (Victory)
TWGCXIX - Coroner (Victory, Overall MVP)

Hosted:
TWGXVIII: Traitor!
TWGXXV: The Inhospitable Hospital
TWGXXXI: Colourblind
TWGXXXVII: Cold Blood
TWGXLIV: Independence Day
TWGXLIX: Deserted
TWGLV: Video Games
TWGLXIV: A Ghost Story
TWGXCII: Werewolves in SPACE!
TWGCVII: Age of Mythology
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« Reply #3286 on: February 11, 2017, 10:41:59 PM »

1) What's wrong with that? People used to do that all the time.
2) So can wolf and pretty much every other role. If you're used to playing town, wolf can be a changed that's difficult to get used to. It was for me.
3) So make good games, then. We'll just stop letting through role lists that need slight adjustments. Once a rolelist is approved by the voters, it's immediately ready to play. I like that idea better anyways.
4) What if the Clairvoyant/Pirate/Any other singular role based games had the main role been given to someone who was horrible at TWG? It happens all the time. They'll just loose.
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« Reply #3287 on: February 11, 2017, 11:41:45 PM »

I have to say KKE has a point here. The game of TWG is supposed to be dependent on the town's strategy to find the wolves before they're all dead, as opposed to a single player's ability to create new rolelists which is the case in this bid. And even then, if this bid does get accepted then all the bids from the start of the game until the end will basically be judged by what Spy-not believes is a good reason to vote yes or no which is totally unrepresentative of the TWG community. Also, it doesn't really take that long to make a bid that's at least interesting. I literally created The Four Presents (yes, that was my bid if it wasn't obvious enough) in 10 minutes, and the only thing anyone really complained about was the penalty for killing the main role. Since I don't imagine many of the accepted bids would have taken much longer, I conclude that it's pretty obvious which bid will be the Host's.
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« Reply #3288 on: February 12, 2017, 09:26:28 AM »

My bid took like an hour, and there was no real gimmick
Just switching out certain roles to see which ones would fit together the best.
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« Reply #3289 on: February 12, 2017, 09:31:33 AM »

I have to say KKE has a point here. The game of TWG is supposed to be dependent on the town's strategy to find the wolves before they're all dead, as opposed to a single player's ability to create new rolelists which is the case in this bid. And even then, if this bid does get accepted then all the bids from the start of the game until the end will basically be judged by what Spy-not believes is a good reason to vote yes or no which is totally unrepresentative of the TWG community. Also, it doesn't really take that long to make a bid that's at least interesting. I literally created The Four Presents (yes, that was my bid if it wasn't obvious enough) in 10 minutes, and the only thing anyone really complained about was the penalty for killing the main role. Since I don't imagine many of the accepted bids would have taken much longer, I conclude that it's pretty obvious which bid will be the Host's.
Not necessarily. It will be the host's decision as to how complicated (but more likely to fail) or how simple to make it (less likely to fail, but more likely to draw attention). The Host will changed the game up a bit, and it will at least be interesting to see it out. The town will have to start strategizing into the Bidding Topic, filling it with good games so it will be difficult for the Host to get into the queue.
The only thing I would change about the Host is their ability to win if they died before their bid made it to the poll.
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« Reply #3290 on: February 12, 2017, 02:25:51 PM »

TWG Bid did not receive enough votes to become a TWG.
Wow these titles have been really generic lately
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« Reply #3291 on: February 12, 2017, 02:27:54 PM »

I believe the Classic would bring us to the past, Yes.
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« Reply #3292 on: February 12, 2017, 02:28:54 PM »

After 3 hectic, out of the ordinary games, I'd welcome a game like this
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« Reply #3293 on: February 12, 2017, 03:56:31 PM »

Bit too genaric for my taste- we have Inception of Perception coming next, I'd like to remind you of that.
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14. Papa's Scooperia (RANK 75)
15. Papa's Taco Mia to Go! (RANK 66) [PROGRESS LOST]
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17. Papa's Hot Doggeria HD (RANK 61)
18. Papa's Pancakeria (RANK 59- GOLD) [PROGRESS LOST]
19. Papa's Taco Mia! (RANK 36) [PROGRESS LOST]
20. Papa's Pizzeria (RANK 34) [PROGRESS LOST]
21. Papa's Pizzeria HD (RANK 22)
22. Papa's Burgeria to Go! (RANK 20) [PROGRESS LOST]
23. Papa's Cupcakeria to Go! (RANK 13) [PROGRESS LOST]
24. Papa's Wingeria HD (RANK 11)
25. Papa's Donuteria To Go (RANK 6)
Gameria Holidays:
Cupcakeria: 5th Christmas (December)
Pastaria: 4th Neptune's Feast (August)
Donuteria: 2nd Easter (April)
Cheeseria: 2nd St. Paddy's Day (March)
Bakeria: 4th Halloween (October)
Sushiria: 3rd Bavariafest (August)
Scooperia: 2nd Cherry Blossom Festival (April)
Pancakeria HD: 4th Christmas (December)
Hot Doggeria HD: 1st Easter (April)
Donuteria to Go: 1st Maple Mornings (September)
*Wingeria: 2nd Burgesburgh Alleyways (February)
**Hot Doggeria Lobby: (P) Pizzeria Theme
Jacksmith: 2nd Evershade Forest
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Town of Salem Win Counts:
23 wins as VIGILANTE
19 wins as GODFATHER
16 wins as JAILOR SHERIFF BODYGUARD
14 wins as ESCORT
13 wins as LOOKOUT
12 wins as DOCTOR
11 wins as MEDIUM MAFIOSO JESTER
10 wins as SPY
9 wins as CRUSADER VETERAN
8 wins as INVESTIGATOR FRAMER SERIAL KILLER
7 wins as EXECUTIONER SURVIVOR
6 wins as TRACKER MEDUSA VAMPIRE
5 wins as MAYOR TRANSPORTER CONSIGLIERE POISONER ARSONIST
4 wins as PSYCHIC TRAPPER DISGUISER NECROMANCER AMNESIAC WITCH
3 wins as RETRIBUTIONIST FORGER POTION MASTER HEX MASTER
2 wins as BLACKMAILER  COVEN LEADER WEREWOLF PLAGUEBEARER PIRATE
1 win as CONSORT GUARDIAN ANGEL
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No wins as VAMPIRE HUNTER JANITOR AMBUSHER HYPNOTIST JUGGERNAUT

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Jamaica (1/12)
Iceland (7/14)
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Rome (5/16)
Easter Island (12/13)
Montserrat (1/18)
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« Reply #3294 on: February 12, 2017, 04:05:00 PM »

But we have Bomb Scare, The Deathlock Castle and Killing Time, all 3 games of which are not simple
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« Reply #3295 on: February 12, 2017, 04:07:15 PM »

Bomb Scare is simple, there is really no new "gimmick" to it, just two new roles iirc
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« Reply #3296 on: February 12, 2017, 04:40:23 PM »

You get the general point though.
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« Reply #3297 on: February 12, 2017, 05:42:42 PM »

Yeah I guess so. Just not my taste of game, I see how other people could like it though.
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Hello! I'm Kangablue, also known as shalomblue or Joey. I'm fun, weird, and love playing games, as well as creating them.

1. Papa's Cupcakeria (RANK 300- GOLD)
2. Papa's Bakeria (RANK 234- GOLD)
3. Papa's Pancakeria HD (RANK 218- GOLD)
4. Papa's Pastaria (RANK 202- GOLD)
5. Steak and Jake (TRAILHEAD 195) [PROGRESS LOST]
6. Slider Scouts (RANK 175)
7. Papa's Freezeria to Go! (RANK 171- GOLD) [PROGRESS LOST]
8. Papa's Hot Doggeria (RANK 150- GOLD)
9. Papa's Sushiria (RANK 149- GOLD
10. Papa's Cheeseria (RANK 116)
11. Papa's Donuteria (RANK 102)
12. Papa's Pizzeria to Go! (RANK 80) [PROGRESS LOST]
13. Papa's Wingeria (RANK 78- GOLD)
14. Papa's Scooperia (RANK 75)
15. Papa's Taco Mia to Go! (RANK 66) [PROGRESS LOST]
16. Jacksmith (RANK 63)
17. Papa's Hot Doggeria HD (RANK 61)
18. Papa's Pancakeria (RANK 59- GOLD) [PROGRESS LOST]
19. Papa's Taco Mia! (RANK 36) [PROGRESS LOST]
20. Papa's Pizzeria (RANK 34) [PROGRESS LOST]
21. Papa's Pizzeria HD (RANK 22)
22. Papa's Burgeria to Go! (RANK 20) [PROGRESS LOST]
23. Papa's Cupcakeria to Go! (RANK 13) [PROGRESS LOST]
24. Papa's Wingeria HD (RANK 11)
25. Papa's Donuteria To Go (RANK 6)
Gameria Holidays:
Cupcakeria: 5th Christmas (December)
Pastaria: 4th Neptune's Feast (August)
Donuteria: 2nd Easter (April)
Cheeseria: 2nd St. Paddy's Day (March)
Bakeria: 4th Halloween (October)
Sushiria: 3rd Bavariafest (August)
Scooperia: 2nd Cherry Blossom Festival (April)
Pancakeria HD: 4th Christmas (December)
Hot Doggeria HD: 1st Easter (April)
Donuteria to Go: 1st Maple Mornings (September)
*Wingeria: 2nd Burgesburgh Alleyways (February)
**Hot Doggeria Lobby: (P) Pizzeria Theme
Jacksmith: 2nd Evershade Forest
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*I created my own holidays, which you can see here: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=619.msg1776233#msg1776233
**I alternate the lobby every five ranks, like a holiday, to the next one alphabetically.
Town of Salem Win Counts:
23 wins as VIGILANTE
19 wins as GODFATHER
16 wins as JAILOR SHERIFF BODYGUARD
14 wins as ESCORT
13 wins as LOOKOUT
12 wins as DOCTOR
11 wins as MEDIUM MAFIOSO JESTER
10 wins as SPY
9 wins as CRUSADER VETERAN
8 wins as INVESTIGATOR FRAMER SERIAL KILLER
7 wins as EXECUTIONER SURVIVOR
6 wins as TRACKER MEDUSA VAMPIRE
5 wins as MAYOR TRANSPORTER CONSIGLIERE POISONER ARSONIST
4 wins as PSYCHIC TRAPPER DISGUISER NECROMANCER AMNESIAC WITCH
3 wins as RETRIBUTIONIST FORGER POTION MASTER HEX MASTER
2 wins as BLACKMAILER  COVEN LEADER WEREWOLF PLAGUEBEARER PIRATE
1 win as CONSORT GUARDIAN ANGEL
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No wins as VAMPIRE HUNTER JANITOR AMBUSHER HYPNOTIST JUGGERNAUT

SURVIVOR PLACEMENTS:
Australia (6/12)
Jamaica (1/12)
Iceland (7/14)
Mato Grosso (4/16)
South Tyrol (1/16)
India (8/16)
Rome (5/16)
Easter Island (12/13)
Montserrat (1/18)
Zacatecas (7/20)
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« Reply #3298 on: February 12, 2017, 06:13:52 PM »

Laugh I voted yes on Survivor, Blackout, The Deathlock Castle, and if I was around, I would of voted yes on Killing Time, and I never got to read Guy's where are we.

I don't know, I just get weird when it comes to judging stuff- I honestly prefered the old way of bidding because then it was just which you liked, not if its in its final version or not but meh.
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Hello! I'm Kangablue, also known as shalomblue or Joey. I'm fun, weird, and love playing games, as well as creating them.

1. Papa's Cupcakeria (RANK 300- GOLD)
2. Papa's Bakeria (RANK 234- GOLD)
3. Papa's Pancakeria HD (RANK 218- GOLD)
4. Papa's Pastaria (RANK 202- GOLD)
5. Steak and Jake (TRAILHEAD 195) [PROGRESS LOST]
6. Slider Scouts (RANK 175)
7. Papa's Freezeria to Go! (RANK 171- GOLD) [PROGRESS LOST]
8. Papa's Hot Doggeria (RANK 150- GOLD)
9. Papa's Sushiria (RANK 149- GOLD
10. Papa's Cheeseria (RANK 116)
11. Papa's Donuteria (RANK 102)
12. Papa's Pizzeria to Go! (RANK 80) [PROGRESS LOST]
13. Papa's Wingeria (RANK 78- GOLD)
14. Papa's Scooperia (RANK 75)
15. Papa's Taco Mia to Go! (RANK 66) [PROGRESS LOST]
16. Jacksmith (RANK 63)
17. Papa's Hot Doggeria HD (RANK 61)
18. Papa's Pancakeria (RANK 59- GOLD) [PROGRESS LOST]
19. Papa's Taco Mia! (RANK 36) [PROGRESS LOST]
20. Papa's Pizzeria (RANK 34) [PROGRESS LOST]
21. Papa's Pizzeria HD (RANK 22)
22. Papa's Burgeria to Go! (RANK 20) [PROGRESS LOST]
23. Papa's Cupcakeria to Go! (RANK 13) [PROGRESS LOST]
24. Papa's Wingeria HD (RANK 11)
25. Papa's Donuteria To Go (RANK 6)
Gameria Holidays:
Cupcakeria: 5th Christmas (December)
Pastaria: 4th Neptune's Feast (August)
Donuteria: 2nd Easter (April)
Cheeseria: 2nd St. Paddy's Day (March)
Bakeria: 4th Halloween (October)
Sushiria: 3rd Bavariafest (August)
Scooperia: 2nd Cherry Blossom Festival (April)
Pancakeria HD: 4th Christmas (December)
Hot Doggeria HD: 1st Easter (April)
Donuteria to Go: 1st Maple Mornings (September)
*Wingeria: 2nd Burgesburgh Alleyways (February)
**Hot Doggeria Lobby: (P) Pizzeria Theme
Jacksmith: 2nd Evershade Forest
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*I created my own holidays, which you can see here: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=619.msg1776233#msg1776233
**I alternate the lobby every five ranks, like a holiday, to the next one alphabetically.
Town of Salem Win Counts:
23 wins as VIGILANTE
19 wins as GODFATHER
16 wins as JAILOR SHERIFF BODYGUARD
14 wins as ESCORT
13 wins as LOOKOUT
12 wins as DOCTOR
11 wins as MEDIUM MAFIOSO JESTER
10 wins as SPY
9 wins as CRUSADER VETERAN
8 wins as INVESTIGATOR FRAMER SERIAL KILLER
7 wins as EXECUTIONER SURVIVOR
6 wins as TRACKER MEDUSA VAMPIRE
5 wins as MAYOR TRANSPORTER CONSIGLIERE POISONER ARSONIST
4 wins as PSYCHIC TRAPPER DISGUISER NECROMANCER AMNESIAC WITCH
3 wins as RETRIBUTIONIST FORGER POTION MASTER HEX MASTER
2 wins as BLACKMAILER  COVEN LEADER WEREWOLF PLAGUEBEARER PIRATE
1 win as CONSORT GUARDIAN ANGEL
=========================================================================================
No wins as VAMPIRE HUNTER JANITOR AMBUSHER HYPNOTIST JUGGERNAUT

SURVIVOR PLACEMENTS:
Australia (6/12)
Jamaica (1/12)
Iceland (7/14)
Mato Grosso (4/16)
South Tyrol (1/16)
India (8/16)
Rome (5/16)
Easter Island (12/13)
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« Reply #3299 on: February 12, 2017, 06:20:11 PM »

You should just vote based on if you think you'd sign up and enjoy the game, that's what I do personally
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