Bidding Poll Topic

[noname]

Is making confusing, gimmicky games a trend now?

[Nickito]

The Master's Gameshow did not receive enough votes to become a TWG.
I'm too tired to make a caption or anything, so here you go

The Four Presents:

TWG - The Four Presents

Story: One of the humans in town is having a birthday soon. The other four humans have presents that they can give to the birthday boy to protect him from the wolves that want to kill him and all the other humans. On top of all this, a horrible magician is rumoured to have moved in to the house at the end of the Main street and he can do all sorts of damage to the humans and wolves.

Rolelist.
Human
Human
Human
Human - all humans have a present of some sort that they can choose to give to the birthday boy. All the presents help protect the birthday boy from the wolves in one way or another.
Birthday Boy - can receive ONE present from ONE human each night. Immune to wolves on night 1. If the birthday boy dies, 2 random humans will die with him.

Guardian
Seer
Lawyer
Necromancer - if the necromancer revives the birthday boy, any presents the birthday boy originally had will be destroyed.

Disguised Wolf
Wolf
Brutal Wolf

Student
Maniac
Amnesiac - not allowed to remember as the birthday boy
Thaumaturge - can visit someone each night. Check the spoiler below for details.

Thaumaturge outcomes:

If the thaumaturge visits a wolf of any kind, a black role, or a blue role, the person is left alone.
If they visit a human, they take their present and its effects for themselves. If the human already gave up their present then they are left alone.
If they visit the birthday boy, they take any presents that he has as well as all effects.
The thaumaturge wins by stealing at least 3 of the 4 presents.

Changes made
- Town's auto-loss for the death of the birthday boy has been removed. There is still a small penalty if the birthday boy dies, this is only because the presents need to have some sort of purpose in the game.
- The necromancer can still revive the birthday boy, but the humans that were killed alongside the birthday boy will stay dead in this instance.
- This wannabe host just realized how hard it is for the thaumaturge to win, so the thaumaturge now gets any effects from the presents they steal.

[The Real Alien]

I voted no because:
-I would HATE it if I were human and I died just because the Birthday Boy died
-What happens if there are less than two humans dead and the Birthday Boy dies?
-Are the two humans anyone from the human faction or the Human role?
-How do you "give presents" to the Birthday Boy, do you just guess the Birthday Boy or do you just say "give presents to the Birthday Boy"? If it is the latter, then all 4 humans would instantly give the Birthday Boy the presents
-Do you give presents at day or night?
-Also, what is the point of the presents being destroyed if the Necro revives the Birthday Boy? Does the presents have an effect on the Birthday Boy, and if so, what are they?
-"The other four humans have presents that they can give to the birthday boy to protect him from the wolves" Does that mean that the presents make the Birthday Boy immune, and if so, for how long?
-If the Birthday Boy is killed and revived and gets killed again, do two more humans die with him?
-The Thaurmaturge is hard to win as if the Humans give presents just by saying "give present to Birthday Boy"

[Nickito]

it's too vague
not enough information
I thought I was just dumb but apparently not

[Oofis]

I voted no because:
-I would HATE it if I were human and I died just because the Birthday Boy died
-What happens if there are less than two humans dead and the Birthday Boy dies?
-Are the two humans anyone from the human faction or the Human role?
-How do you "give presents" to the Birthday Boy, do you just guess the Birthday Boy or do you just say "give presents to the Birthday Boy"? If it is the latter, then all 4 humans would instantly give the Birthday Boy the presents
-Do you give presents at day or night?
-Also, what is the point of the presents being destroyed if the Necro revives the Birthday Boy? Does the presents have an effect on the Birthday Boy, and if so, what are they?
-"The other four humans have presents that they can give to the birthday boy to protect him from the wolves" Does that mean that the presents make the Birthday Boy immune, and if so, for how long?
-If the Birthday Boy is killed and revived and gets killed again, do two more humans die with him?
-The Thaurmaturge is hard to win as if the Humans give presents just by saying "give present to Birthday Boy"

As the host of this game, I have all the answers:
-If there are less than 2 humans dead, that means there's more than 2 humans alive, so the deaths are randomized as usual.
-Human means Human, not town faction
-The human with the present has to choose when to give their present away and if more than 1 human gives their present it's randomize (see birthday boy description)
-At night, obviously.
-Yes they have an effect, check the birthday boy and thaumaturge descriptions.
-The humans will find out what the present effects are when the game starts. You're not meant to know until then.
-No he doesn't kill two more humans because that would be stupid.
-The thaumaturge has to figure out who has the presents which is why it was hard to win the first time around.

I thought most of this was obvious, but reading through it again I can see why people would be confused.

[The Real Alien]

Sorry, for the first point, I meant what happens if more than two humans are dead?

[Oofis]

If more than 2 humans are dead then less than 2 humans are alive which means that only one or no humans will die. I guess I should have said that when I sent in the bid but never mind.

[!!Vinny927]

The bid is vague which leads me to suspect that the game would be very terrible.

[Nickito]

If we're just going to find out what the presents are at the start of the game, why not tell us now?
I can't vote yes on an incomplete bid

[Oofis]

The humans only get to know what their own present is, not the others because that would be stupid.

[Nickito]

Tip: If you want your game to be selected, don't call the voters stupid

[Oofis]

I never said the voters were stupid, I said said that if people knew the effects of all 4 presents then that would be stupid.

[Nickito]

The Four Presents did not receive enough votes to become a TWG.

Death at Dawn:

TWG: Death at Dawn

Human
Human
Human
Insomniac
Knot Expert
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Cop
Guardian
Gentleman
Warden

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Mason


Sun God
Maniac
Amnesiac

Twist
Instead of the normal system, Lynching will be done through PM. Players may still discuss who to lynch in the main topic, but only PM votes will be counted. This is because the Lynchee will not be announced until the following morning. The lynchee will be informed of their death but will not be able to perform their Night Action (If Applicable) or talk, until their death is announced. If the Maniac is lynched, their victim will be announced along with the Maniac's death - this also applies to the Brutal Wolf.

In a similar fashion, the wolfing victim will not be announced until the end of the following day. Once again, they will be notified of their death, but will not be able to tak or place a lynch until their death is announced.

[Oofis]

This is a pretty nice bid with a good gimmick. I vote yes.

[Abu]

I like the rolelist a lot, but not the gimmick.