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Question: Are you a member of the LGBT2Q+ community? SELECT ALL THAT APPLY TO YOU.
No, I am not a member of the LGBT2Q+ community. - 27 (23.3%)
No, I am not a member of the LGBT2Q+ community, but I consider myself an Ally. - 26 (22.4%)
No, I am not a member of the LGBT2Q+ community, and I view the LGBT2Q+ community negatively. - 7 (6%)
Yes, I am Lesbian. - 2 (1.7%)
Yes, I am Gay. - 11 (9.5%)
Yes, I am Bisexual. - 9 (7.8%)
Yes, I am Transgender. - 4 (3.4%)
Yes, I am 2-Spirit. - 1 (0.9%)
Yes, I am Queer. - 2 (1.7%)
Yes, I am Intersex. - 1 (0.9%)
Yes, I am Agender/Non-binary. - 2 (1.7%)
Yes, I am Asexual. - 5 (4.3%)
Yes, I am Pansexual. - 4 (3.4%)
Yes, I am a different non-mainstream sexual orientation. - 4 (3.4%)
Yes, I am a different non-mainstream gender identity. - 3 (2.6%)
I am Questioning. - 8 (6.9%)
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« Reply #990 on: October 21, 2020, 03:53:18 PM »

They should call this topic: Religion vs Sexuality

Lmaooo this is so true, sometimes there's fight about religiona nd sometimes about sexuality
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« Reply #991 on: October 21, 2020, 03:55:01 PM »

They should call this topic: Religion vs Sexuality
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« Reply #992 on: October 21, 2020, 04:21:11 PM »

People should be able to love who they want to love, regardless of whether or not they love someone of the same or opposite gender. No one should have to feel ashamed of loving someone of the same gender, or be discriminated against because of who they love.
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« Reply #993 on: October 21, 2020, 04:23:28 PM »

People should be able to love who they want to love, regardless of whether or not they love someone of the same or opposite gender. No one should have to feel ashamed of loving someone of the same gender, or be discriminated against because of who they love.
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« Reply #994 on: October 21, 2020, 04:24:41 PM »

People should be able to love who they want to love, regardless of whether or not they love someone of the same or opposite gender. No one should have to feel ashamed of loving someone of the same gender, or be discriminated against because of who they love.


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« Reply #995 on: October 21, 2020, 04:34:35 PM »

ALRIGHT YALL TIME FOR ME TO EXPLAIN THE TRUTH GIVEN TO US BY GOD ALMIGHTY

Now, colts, I disagree with your statement about how the pope is the closest thing to God for us humans, as someone who is orthodox and denounces the pope’s infallacy when it comes to religion. I also disagree with the fact you said “All of you who opposed LGBT+ people are now wrong”. You had good intentions, but misunderstood the article and worded it poorly. A civil union is NOT the same thing as marriage. The two things have different rights, are recognized differently, but more importantly, are not seen as the same when it comes to the goals of marriage. The pope allowing for civil union between same sex couples does NOT mean he is allowing them to have sex. That is explicitately stated as sinful in the Bible as I will expand upon later. This also doesn’t mean that the pope is saying “Ok you are free to go and get with someone of the same sex” That is a misinterpretation, and especially if you interpret it on a sexual relationship level

However, I am not perfect. All of you know that. Nobody here is. I do not know, and nor does anyone else know the biblical implications of same-sex romance and civil unions (Which are different than marriage somehow? I dont really know). I won’t confirm or deny the implications of a romantic relationship, but I do agree with what the pope says in alllowing it. It is GOOD to give these rights to people. It is good to give people, no matter their sexuality, the same legal rights. Though I morally disagree with gay marriage and sex, I wholeheartedly support it politically, such as situations like this

Now, for the morality aspect I mentioned before. Many of you say “Love the sinner, hate the sin”. Let me tell you, that doesnt make anyone feel loved. If I told my imaginary friend George “Hey, you’re a great friend and all, but you gossip. I hate how you gossip. I hate your actions and I will frequently talk about them.”, that’s not going to achieve anything. Telling people how you hate their sin, no matter who or what it is will NEVER help. I for example am against gay sex and marriage. But am I going to constantly point that out to people? Do tell my gay friends about it every day? No! They can confirm it themselves, just ask around. However, do you know what I’m also against? Adultery, cheating, pre-marital sex, divorce, polyamory. Do you know what these all have in common? They are sexual sins. They are about having sex outside of the context of a male-female marriage, and is not for a holy reason. I am against sexual sin. As you all should be. HomoSEXUALITY is not an isolated thing, its just a part of the sexual sins.

The opposite of homosexuality is not being heterosexual. In fact, heterosexuality isn’t good in itself. It should never be the goal . You shouldn’t say “I wish my son was ‘normal’, but approve of your other child having a baby when they are not married. We as Christians or non Christians should think of heterosexuality as good. Lust towards the same sex or opposite sex is still the same sin. Premarital sex with the same or opposite sex is still the same sin.

Now, i often see debates here about not approving of “gay actions”. YOU DONT HAVE TO! I don’t either. HOWEVER, by constantly talking about them, you are missing a huge point. If you want a person to abandon their sin, whether it be sexual in nature or not, you do not constantly berate them for it. You do not bully them. You do not isolate them or treat them as less-than. I know people who would never invite their gay cousin over to dinner, but are fine inviting their twice divorced great aunt over for dinner. these sins have the same weight. It is all sexual sin, and you cant pick and choose what is going to send people to hell.

Let me tell you this. Being gay is NOT going to send you to hell. You cant decide you like men or women and whoosh you’re off to the eternal slammer. You’re getting it all wrong. Just like you can’t think “Hm I like the opposite sex” and automatically you are not sinning, no matter the action. What sends someone to hell is not believing in God, and not wanting to turn away from sin. When talking about things like this, you NEVER EVER condemn people. That turns them away from your message. They see you as hateful and judge mental. If ever you want to help people turn away From wrong, unless they are already Christian, you do not condemn them. Instead, share the good news with them. give them the gospel.  Show them that God loves them, no matter who they are. Because EVERYONE is a sinner. They arent a special type of sinner for being gay. Oh no. They are simply like everyone else.

Who you are sexually attracted to doesnt matter. Heterosexuality isn’t better than homosexuality and vice versa. The true goal here is not to turn someone straight. It’s to guide them to God, and help hem avoid sexual sin. Lust is the same no matter the sexuality, so is cheating, sex when you shouldnt have it, etc. Some people choose to have chastity, some others choose to eventually marry the opposite sex, and some may be in romantic but not-sexual relationships. Whatever it may be, being gay or straight doesnt define you. It is who you love, and what you feel, but not who you are. I cant say you can change. Some people can and others cant. And that’s OKAY! You dont have to change who you feel sexual attraction for. But what you can change is your sexual sins and desires. For Christians, dont condemn gay people. Share the word of God with them, and it will be in His hands what path they may choose.


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« Reply #996 on: October 21, 2020, 04:39:18 PM »

Being attracted to the opposite sex isn't a sin, marriage and sex is what's a sin

EDIT: I don't agree with this being a sin thogh
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« Reply #997 on: October 21, 2020, 04:50:02 PM »

Being attracted to the opposite sex isn't a sin, marriage and sex is what's a sin

EDIT: I don't agree with this being a sin thogh
What are your views then? I’m interested in hearing both sides
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« Reply #998 on: October 21, 2020, 04:52:02 PM »

People should be able to love who they want to love, regardless of whether or not they love someone of the same or opposite gender. No one should have to feel ashamed of loving someone of the same gender, or be discriminated against because of who they love.

I’m going to admit, I feel ashamed of being gay, I feel guilty like I’m doing something wrong.

I also hate the mindset that it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it
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« Reply #999 on: October 21, 2020, 05:02:01 PM »

I’m going to admit, I feel ashamed of being gay, I feel guilty like I’m doing something wrong.

I also hate the mindset that it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it
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And I am not perfect. I have done wrong things as well and have felt the same way, the "no" deep down in my soul. We all have done wrong. No one is perfect. That's what's amazing about God's love. He loves us regardless and forgives us no matter what we have done. He would even forgive Hitler if Hitler had confessed his sins.

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« Reply #1000 on: October 21, 2020, 05:33:57 PM »

I’m going to admit, I feel ashamed of being gay, I feel guilty like I’m doing something wrong.

I also hate the mindset that it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it
Do not feel ashamed about being gay. You have done nothing wrong by loving someone of the same gender. You are born homosexual, it's not something that you get to control. If you feel ashamed about being gay, then society is the problem, not you. The "it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it" is one of the many prejudices society has against the LGBTQ community, and is something that needs to change. Again, the stigma against LGBTQ people is a problem with society, and homosexuals are not the problem.
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« Reply #1001 on: October 21, 2020, 07:34:02 PM »

Do not feel ashamed about being gay. You have done nothing wrong by loving someone of the same gender. You are born homosexual, it's not something that you get to control. If you feel ashamed about being gay, then society is the problem, not you. The "it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it" is one of the many prejudices society has against the LGBTQ community, and is something that needs to change. Again, the stigma against LGBTQ people is a problem with society, and homosexuals are not the problem.
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« Reply #1002 on: October 21, 2020, 08:45:53 PM »

People should be able to love who they want to love, regardless of whether or not they love someone of the same or opposite gender. No one should have to feel ashamed of loving someone of the same gender, or be discriminated against because of who they love.
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« Reply #1003 on: October 22, 2020, 09:56:08 AM »

I’m going to admit, I feel ashamed of being gay, I feel guilty like I’m doing something wrong.

I also hate the mindset that it’s ok to be gay until you want to act on it
you know what, it don’t matter if your gay in God’s eyes, he loves all
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« Reply #1004 on: October 24, 2020, 11:40:00 AM »

Not sure if I posted this here already, but even though I'm like, super freaking gay, I still view the LGBTBARBEQUE+ community negatively because of how toxic it is. I've seen a lot on the internet and from what I've seen, they usually can't take a joke and I could go on but I don't wanna offend anyone. but frankly i probably already have so who cares
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