Bidding Topic (Bidding Status: Closed)

[Kowhai]

Nickito decided to hand the rights to this poll over to me, so here we go.

Welcome to the official Bidding Poll Topic! This is where new TWG bids are decided by poll.

Bidding is currently closed. It will open at the end of TWG CIX: The Penitentiary, at which point, anyone can submit exactly one bid via PM to me, to be placed in the bidding pool. Upon the end of TWG CX: Kainu Mosir, bidding will close again, and every submitted bid will be revealed (anonymously), and subsequently polled for two days (with a new poll starting every day, so there's always two games being polled at any one time). Games which are approved by more than 50% of voters will pass, and will be numbered as official TWGs based on the percentage of Yes votes they received (though this order can be changed to fit the schedules of the hosts). One bid can be submitted per person per cycle.

Successful Bids:

• TWG LXVI: The Perilous Podium (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG LXVII: Survivor (Host: Nickito)
• TWG LXVIII: Not Quite A Quiet Town (Host: The Real Alien)
• TWG LXIX: Blackout (Host: Leia)
• TWG LXX: Inception of Perception (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG LXXI: Lyka's Time (Host: Shendelzare)
• TWG LXXII: Killing Time (Host: The Real Alien)
• TWG LXXIII: Bomb Scare (Host: svefn-g-englar)
• TWG LXXIV: Classic Part 2 (Host: Nickito, Bid by Leia)
• TWG LXXV: A Rift in Time (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG LXXVI: Distant Lands (Host: Prem)
• TWG LXXVII: Death at Dawn (Host: Hamilton)
• TWG LXXVIII: Rock Frontier (Host: Nickito, bid by Shendelzare)
• TWG LXXIX: Penalties (Host: The Real Alien)
• TWG LXXX: Superstitious (Host: svefn-g-englar)
• TWG LXXXI: The Room Where It Happens (Host: Penguin022)
• TWG LXXXII: Shifting Tides (Host: Prem)
• TWG LXXXIII: Another Party of Death (Host: Hamilton)
• TWG LXXXIV: Magicus Extremos (Host: Kirby)
• TWG LXXXV: Choosing Faction (Host: Flare)
• TWG LXXXVI: Working Abilities (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG LXXXVII: Catchphrases (Host: Eliza Mariposa/KitKatastrophic, bid by Nickito)
• TWG LXXXVIII: Perfection (Host: Nickito, bid by !!Vinny927)
• TWG LXXXIX: The Demon Within (Host: Shendelzare)
• TWG XC: Return of the Circus (Host: Leia)
• TWG XCI: The Sun Temple (Host: Archi)
• TWG XCII: Werewolves in SPACE! (Host: Kowhai)
• TWG XCIII: Pathological Lying (Host: KitKatastrophic/Leia, bid by KitKatastrophic)
• TWG XCIV: Morality (Host: Nickito, bid by Prem)
• TWG XCV: Revolution (Host: Flare)
• TWG XCVI: Flipline (Host: Majo_Ellen)
• TWG XCVII: Lunatic Asylum (Host: Surgekeeper, bid by Shendelzare)
• TWG XCVIII: Locked and Loaded (Host: Leia/Raven, bid by Leia)
• TWG XCIX: Faraway City (Host: Prem, bid by Archi)
• TWG C: Theory of Everything (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG CI: Foreign Affairs (Host: Bandero)
• TWG CII: Reversal of Fortune (Host: Kowhai/KitKatastrophic, bid by Kowhai)
• TWG CIII: A Normal Day Outside (Host: Niko~)
• TWG CIV: Lost Connection (Host: HG/Kirby, bid by Leia)
• TWG CV: The Sea-Sun of Visitations (Host: KitKatastrophic/Kowhai, bid by KitKatastrophic)
• TWG CVI: Dostoevsky's Exile (Host: Prem)
• TWG CVII: Age of Mythology (Host: Kowhai)
• TWG CVIII: Return to the Courtroom (Host: Bandero)
• TWG CIX: The Penitentiary (Host: KitKatastrophic)
• TWG CX: Kainu Mosir (Host: Prem)
• TWG CXI: An Abnormal Evening Inside (Host: Blast Burn)
• TWG CXII: Wait For It (Host: Hamilton)

Bold = Upcoming games

[Kowhai]

Poll History:

Dragon's Curse
The Perilous Podium
Survivor
Not Quite a Quiet Town
Invasion of the Ultra Beasts
Role Swap
The Master Sword
The Chessmaster
Role Swap II
Dragon's Curse II
Invasion of the Ultra Beasts II
Night and Day? (Blackout)
The Master Sword II
Inception of Perception
The Chessmaster II
Dragon's Curse III
Bomb Scare
Captain's Ship
The Deathlock Castle (Lyka's Time)
Cleansing and Peacefulness
Killing Time
No Gun Control
Guys, where are we?
Old-TimeyTeams
Captain's Ship II
The Four Presents
TWG Bid
Classic Part 2
Distant Lands
Make TWG Great Again
The Master's Gameshow
The Four Presents II
Death at Dawn
A Rift in Time
The Dimension of Wolves
Distant Lands II
Death at Dawn II
Paranoia
Neighborhood of fear
Land of Heretics
Fame and Fortune
April Fools Play
Back to the Drawing Board
Town(less)
A Color-Flipping Manhunt
Revolution
Rock Frontier
The Epidemic
Trifecta
Werewolves in the Flipverse
Penalties
Superstitious
Interrogation
The Wolfdon Colorground
Literally the best bid ever
Guys, where are we? II
True Colors
Trifecta II
Superstitious II
The Room Where It Happens
Ticket to Ride
Another Party of Death
The Bakers Game
Shifting Tides
Blinded by Love
Guys, where are we? III
Library of Silence
Werewolves in SPACE!
Magicus Extremos
Gentlemen, What Is Our Location?
The Rivals' Game
Road Trip
Side Choosing (Choosing Faction)
Town of Volcanolio
Men of Noble Standing, Where in This Vast World Are We?
Fame and Fortune II
Old Time's Sake
Catchphrases
Communication
War of Werewolves
[untitled]
Working Abilities
Communication II
The Heist
Perfection
Confusian
The Sun Temple
The Demon Within
Return of the Circus
Spell Factory
Life and Death
Werewolves in SPACE! II
Time Tounges
Pathological Lying
Revolution II
NOBODY IS STRONGER THAN DONALD TRUMP
How Is This Supposed To Be Won
The Bloody River
Shadows of the Past
The Rights and the Wrongs (Morality)
Diagnosed with disease
Flipline
Lunatic Asylum
Locked and Loaded
Codename: Ser
Werewolves on Rails
Transmission Garbled, Please Repeat
Make TWG Great Again!
Foreign Affairs
Reversal of Fortune
A Normal Day Outside
Corrupt Forces
[untitled]
End of Days (Widow's Origins)
The Color War
Players' Preference
Lost Connection
The Sea-Sun of Visitations
Hypnotic Dangers
Faraway City
Revenge of the Beep
Killing School Life
Say YES to recolors
Myths
Remnants of Skystone
Dostoevsky's Exile
Killing School Life
Secrets of the Boulevard
Silent Voices
Shadows of the Past II
The Throne
An Abnormal Evening Inside

Bidding Pool 1 (The Penitentiary, Mixing Things Up, Wait For It, Operation: Evolution, One Of These Nights, Playing With Fire, Age of Mythology, Outlast, Kainu Mosir, Secrets of the Boulevard, An Abnormal Evening Inside, Return to the Courtroom)

• Click on the link to go to the bid
• Bolded links are for successful bids
• Italic links are for successful bids that were cancelled later
• Bolded + Italic links are for successful bids that were delayed

[Kowhai]

Bidding Guide:

Standard TWG List
For those of you who struggle balancing roles, here is what a typical rolelist template in TWG looks like. You can always change it up a bit and add new roles, but preferably, keep it at 17-19 roles. The most common number for TWG roles is 18.

Human
Human
Human
Human
Non-Human Town Population
Disguised Wolf

Seer
Guardian
Town Support
Town Killing
Random Blue Town

Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Random Wolf
Mason

Neutral Selection Unbiased (Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, etc)
Neutral Unbiased (Fool, Cheater, Maniac, etc)
Neutral Biased (Vigilante, Arsonist, etc)

Note: Due to the large number of games waiting to be played currently, please do not bid any boring games which are merely passable. People with original bids want to have their turn too.

Keep it simple
Unless you are very confident and have been playing TWG for a while, your first bid should probably be nice and simple. Avoid new gameplay mechanics, or large numbers of new, complex roles. Come up with a couple of ideas for neat new roles, and place them into a fairly simple rolelist. Or, if you have no such ideas but want to get a feel for hosting, you may just want to bid a standard rolelist with no new roles or anything, as it will likely be approved. Good games don't have to have complex gimmicks or 7 new roles and a new faction, all good games need are active hosts, active players, and interesting gameplay, all factors which are barely affected by the rolelist.

Role Choice
NEVER ever ever add roles that automatically grant victory to one particular team or ends the game if they are killed. If you have any further questions, please check TWG: Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil for more information as to why this is a terrible idea. Do not add roles that are almost automatically confirmable such as Miller, Lackey, and Mayor. It is also a good idea to not use roles that are in general poorly received, i.e. Lovers and Magician Wolf.

Don’t be repetitive!
Even if a previous game had a gimmick/faction that made the game extremely fun, don't reuse it in the bid right after. Try to mix roles up a bit. Don’t use roles where other people have been using a lot lately (besides your typical roles from each alignment). There are a lot of underused roles that may work just as fine, if not better!

Learn from others
Look at past bids that have failed and passed, try to either take ideas from failed bids and make them better or try to learn from the good bids. It’s good advice to especially look at the balancing on bids that have won for good examples. It’s also a nice idea to look through the bidding poll history of bids that didn’t make it, and try to read the reasonings as to why they failed so you won’t likely end up making the same mistakes.

Team Games
Team games are now a bit of a special case with TWG. They were once deemed as quite fun, except, there have been several issues regarding either majority rules (when it’s Team 1 v Team 2) or severe inactivity and lack of clear ideas for lynching (check Another Party of Death). As many team games require different teams to kill off specific teams, it’s hard to gain leads in them. Please try to avoid team games as much as possible unless you have some way to solve both issues (Rivals is as of the time of writing, the best possible format for team games). First-time bidders should avoid team games altogether, as they can be more complicated than regular games and are not as good at preparing people for hosting regular games.

Don’t copy Town of Salem rolelists
This is TWG. Rolelists that are ToS based with lots of colors for various roles don’t work the same way they would in ToS. Please avoid imitating these rolelists as much as possible.

Make sure to get feedback
While the rules in this guide should help you avoid most major mistakes when bidding, there will always be little things which can slip under your radar. To avoid this, it is recommended that before submitting your bid to the queue, you send it to 2-4 experienced TWG players/bidders. Preferably submit your bids to someone who’s at least hosted one TWG and played more than five games. These people will hopefully be able to spot any issues in your bid that you may want to work on, and help you with solving them.

Written by: Qazikol, KrispyKremeExtreme

If you have any suggestions, feel free to post them in this topic.

At Nickito's request, our first poll will be a repoll of Library of Silence.

TWG: Library of Silence:

TWG: Library of Silence

Human
Human
Human
Human
Mason
Politician - Can pick one person to count as two votes, and only at Day 3, it will grant someone a Knot Expert-like protection instead.
Brutal Demon - Red. Reveals if killed.

Wolfsbane
Seer
Assaulter - Once in the game, he can kill 3 people at once. If he instead kill one by one, he has 2 shots to do so.
Jock - Can distract someone each night, thus roleblocking them, but they cannot distract the same person twice in a row. If one is distracted, he/she will be notified. Wolves still kill even if one of them is roleblocked, unless if there is only one Wolf left. If a Brutal Wolf is roleblocked, that Brutal Wolf isn't able to kill someone if lynched the following day. Roleblocking a Murderer or Morrigan (unless Morrigan chose Maniac/Unstable) will delay him from roleblocking someone next night.
Student (nerfed): Starting Night 1, can choose to become one of 4 randomly selected roles from Town team, or wait for 4 new roles. If the player has chose his role by Night 1 or 2, it will be revealed to the town. Color will vary to what Student has picked.

Brutal Wolf
Shaman Wolf
Disguised Wolf

Morrigan - Named Renegade for all other future TWG games. Starting Night 1, can choose to become one of 3 randomly selected roles from Neutral team, or wait for 3 new roles. Wins if their specific goal (by respective role) is complete, yet can win with a certain team of a respective role chosen. Unlike Student, she will stay at black color no matter what role she take.
Murderer - Can kill someone each even nights. Beats all if they make it to the end.

Student's Receivable Roles:

Town Population:
Knot Expert
Normal Demon
Supplier
Watchdog

Town Killing:
Brutal Demon

Town Investigative:
Coroner
Seer
Stalker
Warden

Town Protective:
Angel
Guardian
Mercenary
Security
Soldier

Town Support:
Gentleman
Necromancer
Psychic
Transporter
Wolfsbane
Priest

New Roles:
Childlish [Town Support] - Once in the game, if was attacked, the visitors' abilities (even killers) will be countered back to themselves.
Landlord [Town Killing] - Can penalize a person, giving them one stack. One stack and they are roleblocked. Two stacks and they are eliminated by execution.
Templar [Town Killing] - Has one vest, and can kill twice (single target).

Morrigan's Receivable Roles:

Legend:
[1] = Wins with other Neutral, if they make it to the end.
[2] = Wins with Wolves if no other Neutral alive.  Wins with Neutral if they make it to the end. Loses if neither of the two met.
[3] = Wins with anyone.

Neutral Biased:
Assassin - [1] Wins 1v1, and 2v2 (ONLY if another Neutral is alive).
Clairvoyant - [2]
Monster - [1]
Reverter - [2]
Riddler - [1]
Stranger - [3]
Thief - [3]
Trapper - [2]
TSH's Bomber - [2]
Vigilante - [2]

Neutral Unbiased:
Anarchist - [3]
Amnesiac - [3]
Bounty Hunter - [3] Cannot target any other Neutral.
Cheater - [3]
Cronie - If there is still another Neutral alive, the Neutral is automatically chosen. Will know that Neutral, but that Neutral doesn't know him.
Executioner - [3] One target only. Cannot target any other Neutral.
Heretic - [3]
Hunter - [2]
Knight - [3]
Maniac - [3]
Pirate - [3]
Refugee - [3]
Scientist - [2]
Unstable - [3]

New Roles:
Oracle - At night, he will predict who will get lynched by day, if he got it right, he will get one stance. At day, he will predict who will get killed at night, if he got it right, he will get one stance. If he got three stances, wins even if died (it is possible to get these stances at day or night). At six stances, he will resurrect someone into life, and cannot be a Wolf. [3].
Succubus - Every odd nights, she will kill. Every even nights, she will roleblock like a Jock would do, but she can roleblock a Jock. If survived, [2].
Wrestler - Can injure someone, rendering them unable to perform their abilities for two nights. If is done to a Brutal Demon or Brutal Wolf, that person cannot their trigger their ability if lynched. If it is done to a Jock, nothing will happen, yet he will be notified that Jock is immune of roleblocking. Successfully injuring someone will put him on a cooldown of one day, this means he can do his ability every two nights, and this also means if he didn't use his ability, if was roleblocked by a Jock, or happens to roleblock someone roleblock-immune, he can use the ability again next night. If survived, [2].

[Shendelzare]

As I said, Disguised Wolf is miscolored, I will change it if it goes through.

[Nickito]

Change it to green?

[Shendelzare]

I guess it is truly the end of days.

[Kirby]

I think you should change the minimum votes to an Odd number

[Shendelzare]

I think you should change the minimum votes to an Odd number

^ Agreed. It is because what if the minimum votes would be such an even number? That would make a tie.

[Kowhai]

As mentioned in the first post, a bid loses by default if the poll is tied.

[Kowhai]

Library of Silence did not receive enough votes to become an official TWG.

New bid:

Werewolves in SPACE!:

Gimmick: There is a limited oxygen supply of 100 oxygen units. At the end of each day/night, the amount of oxygen units decreases by the amount of players alive during that period. If the amount of oxygen goes below zero, the game ends with the alien winning.

Also: The gimmick from Blackout is back. Town members can lynch up to 3 people in a single day, but for every extra player lynched, the wolves get another kill the next night.

Also Also: If oxygen runs out and both the Alien and the Infected Human are dead, everyone loses.

Human
Human
Human
Knot Expert
Infected Human - If the Alien is lynched, will become Alien in their place. Cannot be lynched. Thinks they're human.
Disguised Wolf
Seer
Mercenary
Cop
Coroner
Psycho
Scientist - Each night, can choose if they want to restore some oxygen. If he chooses to do so, one oxygen unit will be restored for every 2 players excluding the alien, rounded down. Cannot restore more than 15 oxygen units over the course of the game.
Wolf
Brutal Wolf
Dauber Wolf
Mason
Amnesiac
Alien - 3 times in the game, can revive any dead player. Players revived by the Alien use up two times more oxygen than usual. Can choose his colour Night 1, but cannot change his colour past then. If inactive, will be automatically assigned the colour red. Doesn't need oxygen. Night immune. Wins if oxygen runs out.

[Kirby]

Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last

[Moana]

Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last

We had a poll on that in community, I believe.

[Moana]

(16/4/2017 to 24/5/2017) -How should Dauber Wolf work?
-Host’s choice as long as they specify it

Ah so they should specify.

[Kirby]

Host's choice won

[Kowhai]

May as well say that I bid this.

Why Infected can't be lynched?
And how many times can dauber paint, and how long will it last

1. To minimize the chance of both the Alien and Infected being dead.
2. Each night, paint lasts two nights. This can be changed, though.