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Question: Are players allowed to ban players from playing in the next game that they host?
Yes - 3 (15%)
No - 2 (10%)
In specific cases (see my post) - 15 (75%)
Other (explain) - 0 (0%)
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« Reply #345 on: January 14, 2018, 01:36:01 PM »

Imo I feel like it should be the host that decides on the punishment, but the punishment has to be for the next game. Hosts have an overview of the game that most players don't have, so what may seem like a broken rule to a player may not actually be a broken rule.
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« Reply #346 on: January 14, 2018, 01:46:36 PM »

Number 3. There would need to be a clear reason with enough weight behind it.
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« Reply #347 on: January 14, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »

I mean, considering you are taking a break, gamebanning you will be kind of pointless.

As for the latter half of your post, I could go into details if people want (although I think most people including you and Red would prefer for me to just drop it here), but long story short, there have been a lot of strange happenings in TWG amongst you and Red playing together or you hosting + Red playing.
The strange happenings are explainable though.

1. Red knew that Len Kagamine was the Guardian in Shifting Tides because of him saying he is a "power role that protects". This was the suspicious point used against him here, but a lot of people missed Len's post which implied he was the Guardian. Or it was a PM, which would make a lot more sense actually...

2. If Red took a peek at the rolelist for Faraway City then he would have agreed to lynch IllogicallyIllogical and found Gigi Lee Lann suspicious instead of saying that both are innocent. You were suspicious because of the Investigator claim which had some holes in it, and Sodium because he was suspected by both Red and Leia because of his actions towards you and vice-versa with you to him. Seems like a lot of effort to get one wolf lynched to put up a ruse that two other evil roles are good.

3. If me being overconfident that Nickito and Qazikol are wolves is a sign that Red threw them to me, then how is me being overconfident that you were the Terrorist explainable? From my perspective all three of you seemed rather suspicious, and I provided my own evidence as to why instead of just going "I know that they are. Scumreading is making me suspicious. Lynch them/shoot them."

(note: please do not assume this is meant to be aggressive)
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« Reply #348 on: January 14, 2018, 05:13:48 PM »

1.) It was a post, and I remember something like that happening, but, I don't think it was as specific as "I am a role that protects"

2.) Well you did tell me that he was suspicious of II/Lore being wolves later on as well as Gigi being BM, when the rest of town believed that Roth was BM

3.) Okay, there is literally nothing that points to Qaz and Nick as Buddying wolves from the topic yet you were still 100% confident. I've been told that the wolf chat consisted of him yelling at other wolves and telling them they are playing bad/are very obvious wolves while Red didn't do anything. Had a theory that you wanted Qaz and Nick dead so Red could at least have a stab at getting wolf MVP as he'd be caught last once Qaz an Nick are dead. Pretty sure Qazikol and Nick can also speak for themselves too, that none of their behavior strongly pointed to them being buddying wolves in game topic.. Also, as for the Terrorist thing, there was evidence so I am not going to really argue there as I did mess up a bit and freak out + II did say I was black.
So 1 is dealt with I suppose.

2) He only shifted sides (no pun intended) on those after Green discussed his suspicions, not by himself. And nobody really suspected Lore until Leia just so happened to check him, so that's what happened to the other wolf anyways. My MVP post broke down how Green trusted key players like Sodium, while Red trusted others like Gigi, and they suspected the other one so the alliance worked out like opposites.

3) Nickito's very first post in the entire game had no roleclaim and said to lynch me for the purpose of me being suspected. This is suspicious in itself, but Qazikol defended his points and said that I was rolefishing. His points were over exaggerated to make it seem like I was actively searching for blue roles, which I wasn't. As my post in the topic that I unfortunately quoted far too often said, I found their behaviour mirroring and their strategies used suspicious. Also it is noticeable that I trusted Nickito much less than Qazikol, whereas Qazikol was not the one I was TOO confident in. Reflected in that Nickito was the one who actually started it. If this was an agreed upon thing to make red get wolf mvp then why would he gamethrow for a reroll anyways?
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« Reply #349 on: January 14, 2018, 05:20:24 PM »

Don't recall you doing it.

When Leia said I was rolefishing she brought up a different post than Qazikol and as was stated multiple times, actually before she lynched me, I found her to be a practically confirmed human given the circumstances of the claim.

Qazikol quoted a post where I said "If Guardian needs a way to tell us who they guarded they should PM Cyrus, me or Leia". This...isn't really rolefishing, it's a big stretch to call it that and when I pointed that out Qazikol did not really have anything else against me if memory serves and just said I was not making things up. This is what led me to believing that he and Nickito were buddying wolves. Also I did say that they were confirmed but that was the act I was pulling off. Well first of all my evidence post had much less for Qazikol than for nickito. Second of all via PM I said "I am confident that nickito is a wolf" without mentioning Qazikol.
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« Reply #350 on: January 14, 2018, 05:24:13 PM »

Don't recall you doing it.

When Leia said I was rolefishing she brought up a different post than Qazikol and as was stated multiple times, actually before she lynched me, I found her to be a practically confirmed human given the circumstances of the claim.

Qazikol quoted a post where I said "If Guardian needs a way to tell us who they guarded they should PM Cyrus, me or Leia". This...isn't really rolefishing, it's a big stretch to call it that and when I pointed that out Qazikol did not really have anything else against me if memory serves and just said I was not making things up. This is what led me to believing that he and Nickito were buddying wolves. Also I did say that they were confirmed but that was the act I was pulling off. Well first of all my evidence post had much less for Qazikol than for nickito. Second of all via PM I said "I am confident that nickito is a wolf" without mentioning Qazikol.
If I was human, I would've probably said the exact same thing, as that post appeared to be rolefishing, only way you can classify it as a stretch is if you're using a completely different definition of rolefishing.
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« Reply #351 on: January 14, 2018, 05:28:46 PM »

I mean tbf the evidence in Lusamine's post depended on me being a skilled player, which I'm not. Therefore it was invalid
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« Reply #352 on: January 14, 2018, 05:31:41 PM »

I mean, this is quite vague, but Leia used her arguments against you by quoting things I said AFAIK.. And, I mean, with this logic, anyone can be a confirmed human or confirmed wolf.
It was just pretty much reading. Leia did not seem like scum to me, and because of the way that she claimed - "Humans should not reveal, Terrorist will know our roles and win" -> "Terrorist has to make it to the end?" -> "I'm a Human" - is what solidified her Human claim. It is also what made me suspicious of you, if you don't recall - claiming to have seered the Human claim with the strongest case for them is pretty scanty.

If I was human, I would've probably said the exact same thing, as that post appeared to be rolefishing, only way you can classify it as a stretch is if you're using a completely different definition of rolefishing.
What exactly would your definition be? From what I have seen offsite (since this term only made its way from other sites to here), rolefishing is much more blunt, whether it literally be "I'm a power role, give me roles" to something a bit meeker like me in Theory of Everything where I said "I'm trusted within the town, if possible could all humans with abilities PM me?".

At least by those two, saying "if you need a leeway to post results so that we can discover who is a wolf, you can PM three people with me as an option" is kind of a stretch. I suppose I can see where it can be construed rolefishing, but since I was already out on making myself to be a confident human with how I treated Cyrus' claim, I could have just said "Guardian PM me and Cyrus we are in an alliance".
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« Reply #353 on: January 14, 2018, 05:32:11 PM »

I mean tbf the evidence in Lusamine's post depended on me being a skilled player, which I'm not. Therefore it was invalid
You are skilled though...come on you're the founder with at least 4 MVPs to boot D:
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« Reply #354 on: January 14, 2018, 05:34:30 PM »

What exactly would your definition be? From what I have seen offsite (since this term only made its way from other sites to here), rolefishing is much more blunt, whether it literally be "I'm a power role, give me roles" to something a bit meeker like me in Theory of Everything where I said "I'm trusted within the town, if possible could all humans with abilities PM me?".

At least by those two, saying "if you need a leeway to post results so that we can discover who is a wolf, you can PM three people with me as an option" is kind of a stretch. I suppose I can see where it can be construed rolefishing, but since I was already out on making myself to be a confident human with how I treated Cyrus' claim, I could have just said "Guardian PM me and Cyrus we are in an alliance".
It's still indicative of rolefishing, and considering that it was intended in response to your claim that you never rolefished, I reckon it counts as a valid comment
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« Reply #355 on: January 14, 2018, 05:38:57 PM »

This topic is turning into a scaled down version of Foreign Affairs. Laugh

I'll reroll right after  I make my dish for Kief's Kitchen.
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« Reply #356 on: January 14, 2018, 05:41:30 PM »

I mean, with that argument, I could have said something similar as a Disguised Wolf as well (since it can slow down Town to have humans not claim because then, Seer would have to check people one by one). Even if I was a Wolf, I could say the same thing as I wouldn't want Terrorist to win either.
But it was very specific, from the question she asked, to her worry that humans revealing would lose (would be odd for a wolf to jump on this), Leia could have just never got the chance for a Human claim at all then if she was a Disguised Wolf.

It's still indicative of rolefishing, and considering that it was intended in response to your claim that you never rolefished, I reckon it counts as a valid comment
From my perspective it still is not really rolefishing, and you had the same problem as Nickito which I found odd where both of you were on the lynch train in what was either your first posts (definitely for Nickito) or third-ish. Someone else mentioned this but this is out of character for you two when you play as humans
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« Reply #357 on: January 14, 2018, 05:42:02 PM »

This topic is turning into a scaled down version of Foreign Affairs. Laugh

I'll reroll right after  I make my dish for Kief's Kitchen.
Really civilised though. Minus the non-gameplay Discussion if this is the type of stuff we see in future games it would be great.
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« Reply #358 on: January 15, 2018, 01:06:39 PM »

I only made one pm where i told the wolves tips not a lot of yelling. Bc Nick started a lynch train with his v first post, on some one already suspicious, this is a bad move as anyone but esp as a wolf
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