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« Reply #210 on: December 17, 2017, 11:23:57 AM »

I've made it to TWG XXX for times played. I've been busy this weekend, but I'll start working on it again ASAP.
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TWG Stats:
LXXXIX - Win - Disguised Wolf
XC - Loss - Human
XCI - Loss - Insomniac
XCII - Win - Wolf
XCIII - Loss - Cheater
XCIV - Loss - Guardian
XCV - Game Died - Guardian
XCVI - Loss - Politician
XCVII - Loss - Seer
XCVIII - Loss - Human
XCIX - Win and MVP - Angakkuq
C - Loss - Wanderer
CI - Host
CII - Win - Insomniac
CIII - Loss - Disguised Wolf
CIV - Win - Human
CV - Loss - Human
CVI - Win - Arctic Wolf
CVII - Lose - Seer/Servant/Human
CVIII - Host
CIX - N/A
CX - Win - Lvov
CXI - Win and MVP - Arsonist
CXII - Win and MVP - Espionage Wolf
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« Reply #211 on: December 17, 2017, 11:27:58 AM »

Are you making a list like the one Archi had though, where it would go like

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« Reply #212 on: December 17, 2017, 12:13:33 PM »

I'll update that with the new ones.

That list is still intact in the old HQ.

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TWG Stats:
LXXXIX - Win - Disguised Wolf
XC - Loss - Human
XCI - Loss - Insomniac
XCII - Win - Wolf
XCIII - Loss - Cheater
XCIV - Loss - Guardian
XCV - Game Died - Guardian
XCVI - Loss - Politician
XCVII - Loss - Seer
XCVIII - Loss - Human
XCIX - Win and MVP - Angakkuq
C - Loss - Wanderer
CI - Host
CII - Win - Insomniac
CIII - Loss - Disguised Wolf
CIV - Win - Human
CV - Loss - Human
CVI - Win - Arctic Wolf
CVII - Lose - Seer/Servant/Human
CVIII - Host
CIX - N/A
CX - Win - Lvov
CXI - Win and MVP - Arsonist
CXII - Win and MVP - Espionage Wolf
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« Reply #213 on: December 17, 2017, 12:16:44 PM »

Widow has one of the first messages on this topic.
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Avatars:
9/19/17 - Closers
9/19/17 - Akari
10/4/17 - Xerneas
10/20/17 - Blank
11/14/17 - Swampert, Sceptile and Blaziken
11/16/17 - Complete Zygarde
12/4/17 - Franchise Owner by Excalibur
12/5/17 - Restaurant Star by Excalibur
12/13/17 - LePete laughing
12/19/17 - Cyrus, Pokemon Team Galactic
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1/18/18 - Blank
2/28/18 - Red/Blue Blastoise Sprite
3/3/18 - derogatory
3/19/18 - Mega Charizard X Portrait
3/19/18 - Mega Charizard X using Blast Burn
4/4/18 - Charjabug
5/18/18 - Nothingness
6/15/18 - Thor In The Battle Of Wakanda
8/25/18 - Restaurant Legend by Excalibur
3/3/20 - peepoClap

Survivor Placings:
Amazon Rainforest - 9th place - Voted self out
Mato Grosso - N/A

TWG Stats:
TWG XCVII - Lunatic Asylum - Ended Early | Role: Disguised Wolf
TWG XCVIII - Locked and Loaded - Lost as Cop
TWG XCIX - Faraway City - Won but died, Human
TWG C - Theory Of Everything - Lost as Seer
TWG CI - Foreign Affairs - Modkilled,
 but won as human

TWG CII - Reversal of Fortune - N/A
TWG CIII - A Normal Day Outside - Was going to host, but N/A
TWG CIV - Lost Connection - Won but died, Human
TWG CV: The Sea-Sun of Visitations -
 Won as Decoy Wolf

TWG CVI: Dostoevsky's Exile - Lost as Psychic
TWG CXX: Tick Tock - Lost as Seer

TWG CXXI: Abnormal Evening Iside - Host!
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« Reply #214 on: December 18, 2017, 06:01:26 PM »

Meanwhile

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« Reply #215 on: December 18, 2017, 08:28:48 PM »

I have a suggestion.

Independent roles have their own goals to win. Biased independents win by themselves, while Unbiased Independents win with others.

But what about Semi-Biased? Semi-Biased ones can either win by their own or with others. That's what I truly mean. Such examples are Amnesiac, Stranger, Student, Succubus, and Thief. But in the future, there's another Semi-Biased role I somehow introduced:

Valkyrie - Can only kill two people over the course of the game, yet if she attacks her randomly specified target ("Valkyrie's Interest"), it will instead not be used at all. Wins until the end, along with the target (can be anyone but other Neutral Biased), if his/her target had their winning requirements done. Cannot know her target (but the target knows the Valkyrie), and her target cannot talk to the Valkyrie by PMs, otherwise it is a modkill that do not warrant a gameban, until Night 2.

Does the Valkyrie win with anyone?
Unlike the Succubus, the Valkyrie doesn't win with anyone, as she is actually Neutral Biased, but due to "Valkyrie's Interest", Valkyrie is one of the Neutral Semi-Biased as if her target wins, along with the Valkyrie, only both win, no one else. However, albeit the target knows that he was the target after all, the Valkyrie doesn't know her own target at all until Night 2.
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« Reply #216 on: December 18, 2017, 08:34:08 PM »

Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, and Thief are special cases (and I guess Undecided). They choose their own alignment. I wouldn't call them Semi-Balanced. They don't care what goes on outside of what they do, like all other unbiased roles.

I'd put the other semi-biased roles (Succubus/Valkyrie) as being biased. Unbiased means they can win with everyone as long as they accomplish their goals. Succubus can't win with the Wolves, so it isn't unbiased.

Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.
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« Reply #217 on: December 18, 2017, 08:42:32 PM »

[1] Amnesiac, Student, Stranger, and Thief are special cases (and I guess Undecided). They choose their own alignment. I wouldn't call them Semi-Balanced. They don't care what goes on outside of what they do, like all other unbiased roles.

[2] I'd put the other semi-biased roles (Succubus/Valkyrie) as being biased. Unbiased means they can win with everyone as long as they accomplish their goals. Succubus can't win with the Wolves, so it isn't unbiased.

[3] Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.
1. Agreed.

2. Valkyrie was the biased one...

...while Succubus is unbiased, because she can even side with other Unbiased Independents, I believe as I made that role. The reason why I don't want them to side with wolves because it can make it overpowered.

3. I see.
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« Reply #218 on: December 18, 2017, 08:46:14 PM »

Basically, unbiased roles can win with anyone. Biased roles cannot win with anyone. If there was a Refugee that only won if the Guardian was dead, they would be biased because they cannot win with everyone. In my opinion there is no in between.
Well, no, because if the Guardian just needed to be dead, then it would still be unbiased, as they could still win with the Guardian as the Guardian is a human role that can still win when dead. That's like saying Executioner is biased.
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TWG stats:
TWGXI - Human (Unfinished)
TWGXII - Brutal Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)
TWGXIII - Coroner (Victory)
TWGXIV - Guardian (Victory)

TWGXV - Hunter (Loss)
TWGXVI - Fool (Loss)

TWGXVII - Seer (Loss, Human MVP)
TWGXIX - Brutal Wolf (Loss, HM)
TWGXX - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGXXI - Human (Loss)
TWGXXII - Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXXIII - Guardian (Victory)
TWGXXIV - Brutal Wolf (Loss, HM)
TWGXXVI - Guardian (Loss)
TWGXXVII - Human (Victory)
TWGXXVIII - Disguised Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)

TWGXXX - Mason (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXXXII - Mason (Victory)

TWGXXXIII - Trapper (Loss)
TWGXXXIV - Human > Cultist (Victory)
TWGXXXV - Cop (Loss)
TWGXXXVI - Guardian (Victory)
TWGXXXVIII - Transporter (Victory)
TWGXXXIX - Mercenary (Unfinished)

TWGXL - Riddler (Loss)
TWGXLI - Amnesiac (Loss)
TWGXLII - Vigilante (Loss, Independent MVP)

TWGXLIII - Guardian (Loss)
TWGXLV - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGXLVI - Maniac (Victory, Independent MVP)

TWGXLVII - Wolf (Loss, Wolf MVP)
TWGXLVIII - Moderator (Loss)
TWGL - Gentleman > Cultist (Loss)
TWGLI - Wrathful Tenant (Victory)
TWGLII - Wolf (Loss)
TWGLIII - Human (Victory)
TWGLIV - Bounty Hunter (Loss)
TWGLVI - Pack Leader (Victory)
TWGLVII - Amnesiac > Necromancer (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGLVIII - Seer (Loss)

TWGLIX - Maniac (Loss)
TWGLX - Warden (Victory)
TWGLXI - Student (Loss)
TWGLXII - Student > Hunter (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGLXIII - Human > Fool (Loss)
TWGLXV - Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXVI - Maniac (Loss)
TWGLXVII - Wolf (Loss)
TWGLXVIII - Wolf (Victory)

TWGLXIX - Traitor (Victory, HM)
TWGLXX - Amnesiac > Seer (Loss)
TWGLXXI - Tinker (Victory, HM)
TWGLXXII - Seer (Victory, Overall MVP)

TWGLXXIII - Human (Victory)
TWGLXXIV - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGLXXV - Mason (Loss)
TWGLXXVI - Wolf (Loss)

TWGLXXVII - Sun God (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXVIII - Soldier (Loss)
TWGLXXIX - Vigilante (Loss)
TWGLXXX - Insomniac (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXXI - Vigilante (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXII - Human (Loss)
TWGLXXXIII - Psycho (Loss)

TWGLXXXIV - Potion Maker (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXV - Priest (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGLXXXVI - Insomniac (Victory)
TWGLXXXVII - Necromancer (Loss)
TWGLXXXVIII - Clairvoyant (Loss, HM)
TWGLXXXIX - Succubus (Victory, Independent MVP)

TWGXC - Wolf Shaman (Victory, Wolf MVP)
TWGXCI - Brutal Wolf (Loss)
TWGXCIII - Eidetic Wolf (Loss)

TWGXCIV - Disguised Wolf (Victory, Overall MVP)
TWGXCV - Hypnotizer (Unfinished)
TWGXCVI - Amnesiac > Kingsley (Loss)
TWGXCVII - Human (Unfinished)
TWGXCVIII - Amnesiac > Wolf Shaman (Victory, Independent MVP)
TWGXCIX - Tide Chimer (Victory)
TWGC - Clairvoyant (Loss)
TWGCIII - Necromancer (Victory)
TWGCIV - Knot Expert (Victory)
TWGCVI - Snezhinka (Loss)
TWGCXVIII - Mason (Victory)
TWGCXIX - Coroner (Victory, Overall MVP)

Hosted:
TWGXVIII: Traitor!
TWGXXV: The Inhospitable Hospital
TWGXXXI: Colourblind
TWGXXXVII: Cold Blood
TWGXLIV: Independence Day
TWGXLIX: Deserted
TWGLV: Video Games
TWGLXIV: A Ghost Story
TWGXCII: Werewolves in SPACE!
TWGCVII: Age of Mythology
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« Reply #219 on: December 19, 2017, 04:07:38 AM »

Okay bad example
Replace Guardian with Vigilante or something
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« Reply #220 on: December 26, 2017, 11:32:26 AM »

It is literally an improvement over the Necromancer in every way, and I do not mean in making it OP. Necromancer is what makes miller gaming a thing again.
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« Reply #221 on: December 26, 2017, 01:35:42 PM »

how?
you can revive 2 confirmed people with Angakukk

Who then end up dying.
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« Reply #222 on: December 26, 2017, 02:23:57 PM »

I hope for Angakkuk to never be used again unless it is changed up A LOT
Yeah
Here I was relaxing and now I'm revived and I have to do stuff
With a Necro this wouldn't happen
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« Reply #223 on: December 26, 2017, 02:31:22 PM »

Yeah
Here I was relaxing and now I'm revived and I have to do stuff
With a Necro this wouldn't happen
Hate to break it to you but if the Necromancer revived you, you would still have to "do stuff".
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« Reply #224 on: December 26, 2017, 02:34:23 PM »

Hate to break it to you but if the Necromancer revived you, you would still have to "do stuff".

He probably meant if the game proceeded as usual.
Skylark would be perm. revived, Nickito wouldn't be revived.
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