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« on: July 08, 2018, 02:21:10 AM »

I really hope this year's KCP is not like the last year's. The star ratings gave the opportunity to greedy people to lower others' scores, and I guess that's why there were so many fairly dull characters in the top 32 last year. In my opinion, the 2015 system was more efficient (2013 and 2014 as well, but 2015 was more ''democratic''). What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 04:36:27 AM »

I really hope this year's KCP is not like the last year's. The star ratings gave the opportunity to greedy people to lower others' scores, and I guess that's why there were so many fairly dull characters in the top 32 last year. In my opinion, the 2015 system was more efficient (2013 and 2014 as well, but 2015 was more ''democratic''). What do you think?
Everyone agrees with this. That was what we were arguing about when KCP 2017 started but I don't think Flipline is going to bring it back because the less the good fcs are the easier to find a winner
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Chris' Outfits:
C01: Traveler (32/40 - Safe)
C02: Dubstep DJ (35/40 - Immunity)
C04: Moroccan Shopaholic - Lamps (33/40 - Lost)
C05: Environmentalist Bookworm (31/40 - Safe)
C06: Contemporary Harry Bingham (37.5/40 - Safe)
C07: Chugach Visitor (34.5/40 - Lost)
C08: Dog Musher (31.5/40 - Safe)
C09: Lopevi Influencer (36/40 - Immunity)
C11: Radjah Shelduckling (29.5/40 - Immunity)
C13: Thai Fest Tourist - Chinese New Year (32/40 - Immunity)
C15: Qatari Petroleum Businessman (36.5/40 - Safe)
C16: New Osiris (Awaiting Results)
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1. No matter how much you've changed, for some people (haters) you'll always be the same.
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"Oh, I am not Mr. Bombolony. I am the scariest thing known to man! A failed math test!""You can run, but it won't be to the college of your choice, I tell you!"
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 07:04:35 AM »

I'm sorta new here. Quick question, is this where everything about KCP 2018 is going?
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 07:17:05 AM »

What was the actual difference between 2015's system and 2017's that made it more efficient?  As far as I remember they're exactly the same, but we stopped letting people see how many "Points" they received in the newer KCPs -- because the total points was ignored anyway, it was always about average score which is what the stars show now.  Unless I'm forgetting something about the 2015 version!  To be more specific, total points were ignored because someone could share their link and get 1000 1-star votes, and if we only went by points that customer would beat another that got 300 3-star votes.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 10:39:50 AM »

What was the actual difference between 2015's system and 2017's that made it more efficient?  As far as I remember they're exactly the same, but we stopped letting people see how many "Points" they received in the newer KCPs -- because the total points was ignored anyway, it was always about average score which is what the stars show now.  Unless I'm forgetting something about the 2015 version!  To be more specific, total points were ignored because someone could share their link and get 1000 1-star votes, and if we only went by points that customer would beat another that got 300 3-star votes.
But still there are possibilities for troll or even 'bad' characters to show up in Top 32. None of these systems can change that. And that's kinda unfair because over of 5 entries on KCP 2017's Top 32 were not good at all
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Wanna know what the 3 Ps mean? Pal Professional and Perfectionist most of all
Being a perfectionist is getting em all or nothing. If it's nothing close to perfection, it doesn't deserve another thought.
I'll never remove this from my signature:
Dear forumers,
Since everyone knows that losing just because someone is more popular than you is painful, please, try to be as much fair playing people as you can. It's important for someone who really deserves it to win and not for someone who is either over-rated or persona-esque.
Thank you!
Links:
Check out my Q&A topic!!! Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=46111.0
Check out my FC topic for updates!!! Link:
Check out my Roleplay, the one and only: "The FC Games: Hall Of Fame" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=49494.0
For those who want to test their FC making skills and give their outfit a second chance here's "TFCG - Outfit Evolution" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=64339.0
Chris' Outfits:
C01: Traveler (32/40 - Safe)
C02: Dubstep DJ (35/40 - Immunity)
C04: Moroccan Shopaholic - Lamps (33/40 - Lost)
C05: Environmentalist Bookworm (31/40 - Safe)
C06: Contemporary Harry Bingham (37.5/40 - Safe)
C07: Chugach Visitor (34.5/40 - Lost)
C08: Dog Musher (31.5/40 - Safe)
C09: Lopevi Influencer (36/40 - Immunity)
C11: Radjah Shelduckling (29.5/40 - Immunity)
C13: Thai Fest Tourist - Chinese New Year (32/40 - Immunity)
C15: Qatari Petroleum Businessman (36.5/40 - Safe)
C16: New Osiris (Awaiting Results)
Life Lessons Learned Here:
1. No matter how much you've changed, for some people (haters) you'll always be the same.
Hilarious Quotes:
"Oh, I am not Mr. Bombolony. I am the scariest thing known to man! A failed math test!""You can run, but it won't be to the college of your choice, I tell you!"
Okay I guess. I don't really know what you mean by another day because that could be anytime between tomorrow or your death.
cancelling my vacation to Calypso Island
Lamo in Spanish means "I lick"
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 10:48:54 AM »

Am I the only one that thought the contestants in the '16 and '17 customerpaloozas were better than inthe 2015 one?
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2018, 11:23:52 AM »

I don't think there really is a way to prohibit greedy people from voting against good characters. Sad
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2018, 05:59:58 PM »

I don't think there really is a way to prohibit greedy people from voting against good characters. Sad
Well, maybe Matt and Tony can choose the contestants themselves.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2018, 07:28:06 PM »

Well, maybe Matt and Tony can choose the contestants themselves.
They did that in KCP13 and 14 and in 14, it didn’t go so well with the forumers, which I mostly agree. There were some I can still see today in the 14 Submission Topic that are better than some that made it into Top 32.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 06:11:18 AM »

They did that in KCP13 and 14 and in 14, it didn’t go so well with the forumers, which I mostly agree. There were some I can still see today in the 14 Submission Topic that are better than some that made it into Top 32.
I can agree with this but if we compare 2017's Top 32 with 2014's one we can see that the fcs made it to Top 32 in older KCPs are better than those from the newer KCPs
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You'd better watch out! I am coming after you whoever you are ~ Chris
Wanna know what the 3 Ps mean? Pal Professional and Perfectionist most of all
Being a perfectionist is getting em all or nothing. If it's nothing close to perfection, it doesn't deserve another thought.
I'll never remove this from my signature:
Dear forumers,
Since everyone knows that losing just because someone is more popular than you is painful, please, try to be as much fair playing people as you can. It's important for someone who really deserves it to win and not for someone who is either over-rated or persona-esque.
Thank you!
Links:
Check out my Q&A topic!!! Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=46111.0
Check out my FC topic for updates!!! Link:
Check out my Roleplay, the one and only: "The FC Games: Hall Of Fame" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=49494.0
For those who want to test their FC making skills and give their outfit a second chance here's "TFCG - Outfit Evolution" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=64339.0
Chris' Outfits:
C01: Traveler (32/40 - Safe)
C02: Dubstep DJ (35/40 - Immunity)
C04: Moroccan Shopaholic - Lamps (33/40 - Lost)
C05: Environmentalist Bookworm (31/40 - Safe)
C06: Contemporary Harry Bingham (37.5/40 - Safe)
C07: Chugach Visitor (34.5/40 - Lost)
C08: Dog Musher (31.5/40 - Safe)
C09: Lopevi Influencer (36/40 - Immunity)
C11: Radjah Shelduckling (29.5/40 - Immunity)
C13: Thai Fest Tourist - Chinese New Year (32/40 - Immunity)
C15: Qatari Petroleum Businessman (36.5/40 - Safe)
C16: New Osiris (Awaiting Results)
Life Lessons Learned Here:
1. No matter how much you've changed, for some people (haters) you'll always be the same.
Hilarious Quotes:
"Oh, I am not Mr. Bombolony. I am the scariest thing known to man! A failed math test!""You can run, but it won't be to the college of your choice, I tell you!"
Okay I guess. I don't really know what you mean by another day because that could be anytime between tomorrow or your death.
cancelling my vacation to Calypso Island
Lamo in Spanish means "I lick"
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Ianiant [Apr 19 03:47 AM]:   @Mercury Hod does not exist.
I wanna move to Gay City
CeruleaM [May 02 10:43 AM]: i drive a chevrolet movie theater
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CeruleaM [May 09 07:55 AM]: egg + water + lemon juice + weird dirt stuff = natural and long-lasting hair dye
TIME TO MAKE A DEVIL FC  Evil Grin
Ok. You do you
Lyric Of The Day:
I said, ooh, I'm blinded by the lights
No, I can't sleep until I feel your touch
I said, ooh, I'm drowning in the night
Oh, when I'm like this, you're the one I trust
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2018, 10:23:25 AM »

Hey, this person in the Wikia by the name, SuperShinx, came up with something that might actually be efficient:

“What about just a simple voting system? It will give you three customers, and you can vote for one of them, two of them, or all of them. The Top 32 can be decided on the customers with the most votes.” — SuperShinx

Source: http://fliplinestudios.wikia.com/wiki/Kingsley%27s_Customerpalooza_2017#comm-153332
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2018, 11:13:41 AM »

That's the best idea so far
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2018, 11:19:16 AM »

Hey, this person in the Wikia by the name, SuperShinx, came up with something that might actually be efficient:

“What about just a simple voting system? It will give you three customers, and you can vote for one of them, two of them, or all of them. The Top 32 can be decided on the customers with the most votes.” — SuperShinx

Source: http://fliplinestudios.wikia.com/wiki/Kingsley%27s_Customerpalooza_2017#comm-153332
That's efficient but that still doesn't forbid to troll characters to be in the Top 32. I think Flipline should also make rules for KCP.
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You'd better watch out! I am coming after you whoever you are ~ Chris
Wanna know what the 3 Ps mean? Pal Professional and Perfectionist most of all
Being a perfectionist is getting em all or nothing. If it's nothing close to perfection, it doesn't deserve another thought.
I'll never remove this from my signature:
Dear forumers,
Since everyone knows that losing just because someone is more popular than you is painful, please, try to be as much fair playing people as you can. It's important for someone who really deserves it to win and not for someone who is either over-rated or persona-esque.
Thank you!
Links:
Check out my Q&A topic!!! Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=46111.0
Check out my FC topic for updates!!! Link:
Check out my Roleplay, the one and only: "The FC Games: Hall Of Fame" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=49494.0
For those who want to test their FC making skills and give their outfit a second chance here's "TFCG - Outfit Evolution" Link: http://www.flipline.com/forum/index.php?topic=64339.0
Chris' Outfits:
C01: Traveler (32/40 - Safe)
C02: Dubstep DJ (35/40 - Immunity)
C04: Moroccan Shopaholic - Lamps (33/40 - Lost)
C05: Environmentalist Bookworm (31/40 - Safe)
C06: Contemporary Harry Bingham (37.5/40 - Safe)
C07: Chugach Visitor (34.5/40 - Lost)
C08: Dog Musher (31.5/40 - Safe)
C09: Lopevi Influencer (36/40 - Immunity)
C11: Radjah Shelduckling (29.5/40 - Immunity)
C13: Thai Fest Tourist - Chinese New Year (32/40 - Immunity)
C15: Qatari Petroleum Businessman (36.5/40 - Safe)
C16: New Osiris (Awaiting Results)
Life Lessons Learned Here:
1. No matter how much you've changed, for some people (haters) you'll always be the same.
Hilarious Quotes:
"Oh, I am not Mr. Bombolony. I am the scariest thing known to man! A failed math test!""You can run, but it won't be to the college of your choice, I tell you!"
Okay I guess. I don't really know what you mean by another day because that could be anytime between tomorrow or your death.
cancelling my vacation to Calypso Island
Lamo in Spanish means "I lick"
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Ianiant [Apr 19 03:47 AM]:   @Mercury Hod does not exist.
I wanna move to Gay City
CeruleaM [May 02 10:43 AM]: i drive a chevrolet movie theater
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CeruleaM [May 09 07:55 AM]: egg + water + lemon juice + weird dirt stuff = natural and long-lasting hair dye
TIME TO MAKE A DEVIL FC  Evil Grin
Ok. You do you
Lyric Of The Day:
I said, ooh, I'm blinded by the lights
No, I can't sleep until I feel your touch
I said, ooh, I'm drowning in the night
Oh, when I'm like this, you're the one I trust
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2018, 01:07:56 PM »

That's efficient but that still doesn't forbid to troll characters to be in the Top 32. I think Flipline should also make rules for KCP.
Flipline always ensures that the characters in the final tournament are not copyrighted characters, or characters with any sort of problematic names. Even if a Mario or Donald Trump got the highest average they wouldn't get in.

I like the idea that SuperShinx gave. It prevents anyone from abusing votes by lowering the averages of other good entries! Flipline could still remove anything problematic like they usually would, but we could also see some more quirky and unique designs that are usually split between liked and disliked, so that's a plus.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2018, 01:14:50 PM »

Yeah, the more I think about this idea, the more I think it’ll be more efficient than the current one to prevent those that like to lower those that are good for theirs to make it.
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