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« Reply #120 on: April 19, 2020, 02:44:37 PM »

Will his mod powers taken?
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« Reply #121 on: April 19, 2020, 03:00:50 PM »

We’ll see. If he keeps this up, then maybe
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« Reply #122 on: April 19, 2020, 03:05:36 PM »

User's have complained about his behavior for literally years (as long as I've been here and some) but Matt has never really even talked about the issue, it's nice to see he received a warning this morning, but if I'm gonna be real, that is actually the first time I've ever seen Matt take action on what Joe says. Joe was also never punished afaik for saying a racist joke relating to middle easterners.
This is because Matt doesn’t believe in God.
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« Reply #123 on: April 19, 2020, 03:09:42 PM »

Out of curiosity, has this formally been brought up to him by another mod (or Matt himself)?

Yes besides what Kaito said - he was mass reported in like 2017 for making allahu akbar jokes and Matt said he was warned. Former now inactive mod D-Walker came on the forum to say she thought he should be demoted but never came online again
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« Reply #124 on: April 20, 2020, 01:06:38 AM »

Look, here's what I think.

It does bother me that he has to slam people's religious views every time someone says the trigger word in front of Joe, but the actual problems are caused when people take offense to it and rise to it, retaliate. It's just Joe being Joe and we can ignore him doing that. It's just an opinion he holds that he takes to the extreme. And I'm starting to think these so called "fights" are being made worse than they really are. It's just debate. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean you should then retaliate and try and get their powers stripped away from them, because as a moderator, Joe is fine. He'll merge what you ask him to, delete, ban people, whatever is needed. I don't think he should be demoted, I think people should just let it brush past. He's been doing it for years, why now do we want him gone?
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« Reply #125 on: April 20, 2020, 01:25:12 AM »

Look, here's what I think.

It does bother me that he has to slam people's religious views every time someone says the trigger word in front of Joe, but the actual problems are caused when people take offense to it and rise to it, retaliate. It's just Joe being Joe and we can ignore him doing that. It's just an opinion he holds that he takes to the extreme. And I'm starting to think these so called "fights" are being made worse than they really are. It's just debate. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean you should then retaliate and try and get their powers stripped away from them, because as a moderator, Joe is fine. He'll merge what you ask him to, delete, ban people, whatever is needed. I don't think he should be demoted, I think people should just let it brush past. He's been doing it for years, why now do we want him gone?
It's because no one (me included) likes the fact that someone who holds moderation status is this toxic and uncaring for other peoples beliefs and feelings. And it's not really "now" that we want him gone, people have supported demoting Joe as far back as 2017, when his antics started to get turned up a notch. Just because he can do everything a mod can do (Merge topics, delete post) doesn't mean another user like Nick or JEBZ couldn't be able to themselves if he (Joe) was booted and someone else was asked to take up mod task. Not to mention we do have 2 other global moderators now, who do those exact same things anyways. Speaking of them, do you ever see Kaito or Pizzaccino just randomly throwing into the shoutbox "God does not exist" or something along those lines? That's because they don't, because being a moderator doesn't mean you have to influence everything based on your religious belief, nor does being moderator on this forum have literally ANYTHING to do with religion. He's not abusing mod powers, or doesn't carry his weight, but instead makes everyone around him annoyed by non-mod related comments he throws out. I understand this won't change your opinion, but I do see reason for somebody to take the side of demoting Joe. If anything, the fact even a single person supports demoting Joe and means it without joke, that already shows that people are in someway fed up with the situation and want action taken.

Joe is clearly getting a 2nd chance, that warning he got didn't take away his powers, so hopefully that warning will change how he acts, and if he really does cut the crap, then that's great and I'd love for him to stay a moderator if he really does end his comments. I have no problem with Joe being a mod, but I only want him to be a mod who just acts like a normal, no random anti-religious comments, moderator.
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« Reply #126 on: April 20, 2020, 01:28:27 AM »

I think that he should definitely not say it when someone says "Oh my God" (which actually offends me more when people say "Oh for God's sake" or whatever) but I find the main problem to be people's retaliation. But Joe being a moderator, shouldn't talk back. I agree.
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« Reply #127 on: April 20, 2020, 06:26:57 AM »

Any mention of someone saying "God" somewhere in the shoutbox when Joe is around, he always says the same thing.
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« Reply #128 on: April 20, 2020, 06:43:20 AM »

If we all PM Matt at once our concerns for thia matter maybe it will work
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