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« Reply #1080 on: April 18, 2020, 01:54:01 PM »

Brother E: I saw people in some YouTube comments supporting the protests too, saying "They took our jobs!" and so forth.

I get why people protest though. If they have no job, they just can't sit quarantined in their houses for months as the debt of bills and such add up.
Well that's the governments fault, it's not like they haven't been trying to support small businesses because they really have. Biggest problem is pretty much the fact we haven't had a pandemic at this big of scale in so long everyone alive has never felt affects caused by outbreaks. Whether they'd like to admit it or not, many people will be losing jobs/businesses, in fact people have already been starting to lose such. They need to accept defeat or else they just look like greedy business owners who only care about their income, and not the well-being of others. It sucks, but there's no way of preventing businesses being lost at this point. It's been proven, A lot of people will be unemployed because of this pandemic.
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« Reply #1081 on: April 18, 2020, 02:19:07 PM »

Well that's the governments fault, it's not like they haven't been trying to support small businesses because they really have. Biggest problem is pretty much the fact we haven't had a pandemic at this big of scale in so long everyone alive has never felt affects caused by outbreaks. Whether they'd like to admit it or not, many people will be losing jobs/businesses, in fact people have already been starting to lose such. They need to accept defeat or else they just look like greedy business owners who only care about their income, and not the well-being of others. It sucks, but there's no way of preventing businesses being lost at this point. It's been proven, A lot of people will be unemployed because of this pandemic.
Brother E: Exactly. That's why people are protesting, because of their jobs being lost. I don't think anyone is protesting just for spite.
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« Reply #1082 on: April 18, 2020, 08:58:45 PM »

Brother E: Exactly. That's why people are protesting, because of their jobs being lost. I don't think anyone is protesting just for spite.
Does protesting in a large crowd seem like a safe idea when there's a pandemic spreading? These protests will directly lead to more loss of life.
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« Reply #1083 on: April 18, 2020, 09:01:56 PM »

Canada’s healthcare system is worse. Instead of paying, you have to wait a ridiculously long amount of time to get a surgery that your life may depend on. That’s happened to my cousins who live in Canada multiple times. Nothing in life is free
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I had three family members nearly die from negligent health care in the US, and many friends and family are completely crippled by debt from hospital bills. I’m okay with waiting for a long time
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« Reply #1084 on: April 18, 2020, 09:06:07 PM »

For those who’ve seen the story before, my mother has told me that my youngest brother also had a near death situation in these awful hospitals. apparently when he was choking, the doctors were like “eh he’ll be fine he’s still talking”. and left him alone. He was choking on a candy and it was in a place in his throat where he could breathe, but it could have easily been dislodged and caused him to suffocate. The medical bill we got for that I don’t remember the price, but I do know that for that crappy treatment it was at least 200$
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« Reply #1085 on: April 18, 2020, 09:14:34 PM »

Why would you think that I want people to die? I just don’t want people to be stripped of their freedom. This is America, the home of the free.
A lot of countries are more free than the United States. Don't delude yourself.
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« Reply #1086 on: April 18, 2020, 09:20:15 PM »

Canada’s healthcare system is worse. Instead of paying, you have to wait a ridiculously long amount of time to get a surgery that your life may depend on. That’s happened to my cousins who live in Canada multiple times. Nothing in life is free
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Your cousins in Canada are liars, or you are making this up. Probably both. The healthcare here is astronomically better than your sordid excuse for a healthcare system. There is a reason Canadians live 4.9 years longer on average than Americans and it isn't diet.

This post is so disgusting and you should be ASHAMED of spreading lies.

When my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer even though it was not life-threatening, but could become that, she received surgery within TWO WEEKS and it was gone. It was FREE. She is now healthy. In the United States she would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars (because we cannot afford health insurance), and actually it would take longer because we do not have the money.

At least do your research before making up disgusting lies. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading misconceptions like this. The healthcare system here saved my mother's life.
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« Reply #1087 on: April 18, 2020, 09:22:12 PM »

For those who’ve seen the story before, my mother has told me that my youngest brother also had a near death situation in these awful hospitals. apparently when he was choking, the doctors were like “eh he’ll be fine he’s still talking”. and left him alone. He was choking on a candy and it was in a place in his throat where he could breathe, but it could have easily been dislodged and caused him to suffocate. The medical bill we got for that I don’t remember the price, but I do know that for that crappy treatment it was at least 200$
It's okay, he is a liar. I am sorry for your suffering and losses. I hope there can be reform.
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« Reply #1088 on: April 18, 2020, 09:25:01 PM »

Your cousins in Canada are liars, or you are making this up. Probably both. The healthcare here is astronomically better than your sordid excuse for a healthcare system. There is a reason Canadians live 4.9 years longer on average than Americans and it isn't diet.

This post is so disgusting and you should be ASHAMED of spreading lies.

When my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer even though it was not life-threatening, but could become that, she received surgery within TWO WEEKS and it was gone. It was FREE. She is now healthy. In the United States she would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars (because we cannot afford health insurance), and actually it would take longer because we do not have the money.

At least do your research before making up disgusting lies. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading misconceptions like this. The healthcare system here saved my mother's life.
I’m so grateful that your mother could receive the wonderful and especially free healthcare in Canada! I am always so happy to hear that she is doing well after the cancer. Surgery within two weeks is just unheard of here. Thank you for shutting down the lies! May your mother continue to stay healthy and well!!
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« Reply #1089 on: April 18, 2020, 09:33:34 PM »

In the United States she would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars (because we cannot afford health insurance), and actually it would take longer because we do not have the money.
In America, healthcare is seen as a commodity, whereas many other countries see access to healthcare is seen as a human right. As a result, many other countries have affordable, if not free healthcare.
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« Reply #1090 on: April 18, 2020, 09:35:05 PM »

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« Reply #1091 on: April 18, 2020, 09:47:30 PM »

A lot of countries are more free than the United States. Don't delude yourself.
Most Americans are brainwashed to believe America is "the land of the free". Ironically, the US National Anthem, where the phrase "land of the free" came from, was written back when there were still slaves, and only white men, older than 21, could vote. Fortunately, things are better in modern times, but progress still needs to be made, for example, there are still minorities who are discriminated against.
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« Reply #1092 on: April 18, 2020, 09:51:33 PM »

There’s a lot of propaganda in the US. Be careful what people are telling you! We aren’t as free as we think we are here
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« Reply #1093 on: April 18, 2020, 09:53:46 PM »

To be fair, the US is much more free than North Korea.
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« Reply #1094 on: April 18, 2020, 09:56:19 PM »

Most Americans are brainwashed to believe America is "the land of the free". Ironically, the US National Anthem, where the phrase "land of the free" came from, was written back when there were still slaves, and only white men, older than 21, could vote. Fortunately, things are better in modern times, but progress still needs to be made, for example, there are still minorities who are discriminated against.

The United States is the freest and most accepting country in the world. Unfortunately, no matter where you go, or how much is done, there will unfortunately always be people who discriminate against others. And why are we talking about this in a Covid-19 topic?
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