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« Reply #825 on: April 01, 2020, 03:12:35 PM »

It is pretty much illegal to keep people completely indoors. We would become very unhealthy if we could go and get exercise, making people even more likely to contract the disease

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« Reply #826 on: April 01, 2020, 05:31:09 PM »

I make a worldwide version for multiple sites, as I've shown here once, but since this forum has tons of Americans and also a sizable amount of Canadians, I'll share this. It's pretty low quality since this is the first day I've done this and I'm still figuring out where to place the label. I'll fix the background next day I do this.

The % is how many have died out of all confirmed cases; the number in brackets is the number of deaths.

COVID-19 Fatality Rate in Canada and the United States of America

# of deaths / # of cases * 100
All data is from 20:00 EST (00:00 UTC) on day of posting




Canada

British Columbia - 2.35% (25)
Saskatchewan - 1.55% (3)
Ontario - 1.55% (37)
Alberta - 1.26% (11)
Manitoba - 0.79% (1)
Québec - 0.72% (33)
Newfoundland and Labrador - 0.61% (1)
New Brunswick - 0.00% (0) (81 cases total)
Northwest Territories - 0.00% (0) (2 cases total)
Nova Scotia - 0.00% (0) (173 cases total)
Nunavut - 0.00% (0) (0 cases total)
Prince Edward Island - 0.00% (0) (21 cases total)
Yukon - 0.00% (0) (6 cases total)

United States of America

Vermont - 5.00% (16)
Washington - 4.28% (250)
Louisiana - 4.25% (273)
Oklahoma - 4.17% (30)
Puerto Rico - 3.85% (11)
Michigan - 3.61% (337)
Georgia - 3.24% (154)
Delaware - 3.00% (11)
Kentucky - 2.94% (20)
Montana - 2.76% (6)
New York - 2.64% (2219)
Alabama - 2.58% (28)
Oregon - 2.58% (19)
Ohio - 2.55% (65)
Indiana - 2.53% (65)
Minnesota - 2.47% (17)
Colorado - 2.39% (80)
Connecticut - 2.39% (85)
Virginia - 2.29% (34)
Alaska - 2.26% (3)
California - 2.15% (207)
North Dakota - 2.11% (3)
Kansas - 2.07% (10)
Arizona - 2.05% (29)
Mississippi - 2.05% (22)
Maine - 2.03% (7)
Nevada - 2.03% (26)
Illinois - 2.02% (141)
South Carolina - 2.01% (26)
Nebraska - 1.90% (4)
District of Columbia - 1.88% (11)
Rhode Island - 1.77% (10)
Arkansas - 1.71% (10)
New Mexico - 1.65% (6)
Iowa - 1.64% (9)
Wisconsin - 1.61% (25)
New Jersey - 1.60% (355)
Massachusetts - 1.58% (122)
Maryland - 1.56% (31)
South Dakota - 1.55% (2)
Texas - 1.47% (60)
Idaho - 1.34% (9)
Florida - 1.30% (101)
Pennsylvania - 1.28% (74)
Missouri - 1.14% (18)
West Virginia - 1.05% (2)
New Hampshire - 0.96% (4)
Tennessee - 0.93% (25)
Utah - 0.69% (7)
North Carolina - 0.63% (10)
Hawaii - 0.39% (1)
American Samoa - 0.00% (0) (0 cases total)
Guam - 3.90% (3) (77 cases total)
Northern Mariana Islands - 16.67% (1) (6 cases total)
United States Virgin Islands - 0.00% (0) (30 cases total)

Wyoming - 0.00% (0) (137 cases total)
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« Reply #827 on: April 01, 2020, 05:37:02 PM »

Also, as a whole, here are both countries:

United States - 2.37% (5094)
Canada - 1.14% (111)

If you have any suggestions for other countries let me know! I can make your country if you're interested.
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« Reply #828 on: April 01, 2020, 05:45:47 PM »

Since I know there's a few user's on here who, for some reason, say COVID-19 is just the flu, guess what?:

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

Those are stats from the 2017/2018 winter, in which 80K people in the U.S died from the Flu. It was apparently, as the article says, the worst flu year in 40 years. 80K deaths is a lot, sure, but the problem here is that, experts in one of the last Coronavirus conferences, said by the time we hit the peak of cases in the U.S (which is in like a couple of WEEKS), the death toll will get up to about 200K deaths!! This many deaths (In the U.S alone) are predicted for a couple of weeks whereas the Flu that season of 2017/2018 killed again 80K and that number was counted over MONTHS, not a couple of weeks, straight up the entire Flu season which is like 5 months long or something, not to mention that that year was just an unusually large death number to occur. In that same article they say  that in some bad Flu seasons, the death toll usually makes just over 50K deaths.

This virus is something to take seriously! Stop complaining about the Government doing a crappy job and sit through the stay at home orders like the rest of us. Remember too that they also predicted that if America didn't do anything period (Like you wish for some stupid bleeping reason) The death toll would be in the millions.
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« Reply #829 on: April 01, 2020, 06:01:54 PM »

Since I know there's a few user's on here who, for some reason, say COVID-19 is just the flu, guess what?:

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

Those are stats from the 2017/2018 winter, in which 80K people in the U.S died from the Flu. It was apparently, as the article says, the worst flu year in 40 years. 80K deaths is a lot, sure, but the problem here is that, experts in one of the last Coronavirus conferences, said by the time we hit the peak of cases in the U.S (which is in like a couple of WEEKS), the death toll will get up to about 200K deaths!! This many deaths (In the U.S alone) are predicted for a couple of weeks whereas the Flu that season of 2017/2018 killed again 80K and that number was counted over MONTHS, not a couple of weeks, straight up the entire Flu season which is like 5 months long or something, not to mention that that year was just an unusually large death number to occur. In that same article they say  that in some bad Flu seasons, the death toll usually makes just over 50K deaths.

This virus is something to take seriously! Stop complaining about the Government doing a crappy job and sit through the stay at home orders like the rest of us. Remember too that they also predicted that if America didn't do anything period (Like you wish for some stupid bleeping reason) The death toll would be in the millions.
Good luck getting to their heads. The ones who said it was just a flu and were logical have already changed their minds by now; the people still saying it's just a flu, overreaction, etc. are too inept to have the message be heard. COVID-19 is already killing 3x more Americans than the flu does on an average basis. I've seen the stupidest arguments for it too. "Forcing people to stay inside is communism!!" No, it's called COMMON SENSE.
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« Reply #830 on: April 01, 2020, 06:07:40 PM »

Good luck getting to their heads. The ones who said it was just a flu and were logical have already changed their minds by now; the people still saying it's just a flu, overreaction, etc. are too inept to have the message be heard. COVID-19 is already killing 3x more Americans than the flu does on an average basis. I've seen the stupidest arguments for it too. "Forcing people to stay inside is communism!!" No, it's called COMMON SENSE.

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« Reply #831 on: April 01, 2020, 08:05:32 PM »

Good luck getting to their heads. The ones who said it was just a flu and were logical have already changed their minds by now; the people still saying it's just a flu, overreaction, etc. are too inept to have the message be heard. COVID-19 is already killing 3x more Americans than the flu does on an average basis. I've seen the stupidest arguments for it too. "Forcing people to stay inside is communism!!" No, it's called COMMON SENSE.

This tells me otherwise.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-death-rate-lower-than-previously-reported-study/amp/
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« Reply #832 on: April 01, 2020, 08:07:27 PM »

That article still states "Researchers noted the death rate for coronavirus is still “substantially higher” than the flu, which leads to death in 0.1% of cases."
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« Reply #833 on: April 01, 2020, 08:08:10 PM »

As well as "“Even though the fatality rate is low for younger people, it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false,” Shigui Ruan, a professor in the department of mathematics at the University of Miami, wrote in an accompanying commentary."
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« Reply #834 on: April 01, 2020, 08:31:12 PM »

You could at least try to read your own article and save yourself the embrassement lol
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« Reply #835 on: April 01, 2020, 08:41:02 PM »

I make a worldwide version for multiple sites, as I've shown here once, but since this forum has tons of Americans and also a sizable amount of Canadians, I'll share this. It's pretty low quality since this is the first day I've done this and I'm still figuring out where to place the label. I'll fix the background next day I do this.

The % is how many have died out of all confirmed cases; the number in brackets is the number of deaths.

COVID-19 Fatality Rate in Canada and the United States of America

# of deaths / # of cases * 100
All data is from 20:00 EST (00:00 UTC) on day of posting




Canada

British Columbia - 2.35% (25)
Saskatchewan - 1.55% (3)
Ontario - 1.55% (37)
Alberta - 1.26% (11)
Manitoba - 0.79% (1)
Québec - 0.72% (33)
Newfoundland and Labrador - 0.61% (1)
New Brunswick - 0.00% (0) (81 cases total)
Northwest Territories - 0.00% (0) (2 cases total)
Nova Scotia - 0.00% (0) (173 cases total)
Nunavut - 0.00% (0) (0 cases total)
Prince Edward Island - 0.00% (0) (21 cases total)
Yukon - 0.00% (0) (6 cases total)

United States of America

Vermont - 5.00% (16)
Washington - 4.28% (250)
Louisiana - 4.25% (273)
Oklahoma - 4.17% (30)
Puerto Rico - 3.85% (11)
Michigan - 3.61% (337)
Georgia - 3.24% (154)
Delaware - 3.00% (11)
Kentucky - 2.94% (20)
Montana - 2.76% (6)
New York - 2.64% (2219)
Alabama - 2.58% (28)
Oregon - 2.58% (19)
Ohio - 2.55% (65)
Indiana - 2.53% (65)
Minnesota - 2.47% (17)
Colorado - 2.39% (80)
Connecticut - 2.39% (85)
Virginia - 2.29% (34)
Alaska - 2.26% (3)
California - 2.15% (207)
North Dakota - 2.11% (3)
Kansas - 2.07% (10)
Arizona - 2.05% (29)
Mississippi - 2.05% (22)
Maine - 2.03% (7)
Nevada - 2.03% (26)
Illinois - 2.02% (141)
South Carolina - 2.01% (26)
Nebraska - 1.90% (4)
District of Columbia - 1.88% (11)
Rhode Island - 1.77% (10)
Arkansas - 1.71% (10)
New Mexico - 1.65% (6)
Iowa - 1.64% (9)
Wisconsin - 1.61% (25)
New Jersey - 1.60% (355)
Massachusetts - 1.58% (122)
Maryland - 1.56% (31)
South Dakota - 1.55% (2)
Texas - 1.47% (60)
Idaho - 1.34% (9)
Florida - 1.30% (101)
Pennsylvania - 1.28% (74)
Missouri - 1.14% (18)
West Virginia - 1.05% (2)
New Hampshire - 0.96% (4)
Tennessee - 0.93% (25)
Utah - 0.69% (7)
North Carolina - 0.63% (10)
Hawaii - 0.39% (1)
American Samoa - 0.00% (0) (0 cases total)
Guam - 3.90% (3) (77 cases total)
Northern Mariana Islands - 16.67% (1) (6 cases total)
United States Virgin Islands - 0.00% (0) (30 cases total)

Wyoming - 0.00% (0) (137 cases total)
This is super informative and well researched! I hope everyone can see this
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« Reply #836 on: April 01, 2020, 08:41:38 PM »

That article still states "Researchers noted the death rate for coronavirus is still “substantially higher” than the flu, which leads to death in 0.1% of cases."

0.1% isn't big at all. In fact, it's very small.

As well as "“Even though the fatality rate is low for younger people, it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false,” Shigui Ruan, a professor in the department of mathematics at the University of Miami, wrote in an accompanying commentary."

Math has nothing to do with the virus.
Unless you're talking about the percentage of the virus cases, then no. Even that doesn't have much relevance to math whatsoecer.

You could at least try to read your own article and save yourself the embrassement lol

The title is far more important in the article.
I bet you that those statistics you mentioned, aren't true.

This is super informative and well researched! I hope everyone can see this

Explain how well-researched and informative they are.
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« Reply #837 on: April 02, 2020, 03:02:49 PM »

Math has nothing to do with the virus.
Unless you're talking about the percentage of the virus cases, then no. Even that doesn't have much relevance to math whatsoecer.
As someone who has a math degree, I beg to differ. Here is an article which explains the math used to model epidemics which includes differential equations, graph theory, and probability.
https://towardsdatascience.com/the-mathematics-of-epidemiology-fa0ba15e44a2

Compared to these areas of math percentages are very boring. For further reading, here is an article which shows how to use differential equations to model the spread of diseases.
https://www.public.asu.edu/~hnesse/classes/sir.html

This next article discusses how graph theory is used to model epidemics. Note: the article uses the word network rather than graph, but it's the same thing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1578276/

Probability theory can also be used in the modeling of pandemics as discussed in this article.
http://ww3.haverford.edu/mathematics/lbutler/glossary/bayes.html

These last two articles use these areas of mathematics to create some interesting simulations which model the spread of viruses, in a way that even a high school student, or in your case a high school dropout, can understand, even without a solid understanding of the areas of math just mentioned. The first article is fairly basic, but the second article has more interesting simulations that are interactive. Both are worth reading, but if you can only read one, read the second.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
https://meltingasphalt.com/interactive/outbreak/

Here is a Youtube video with further simulations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaO2rsdIs

Lastly, here is a video which shows how viruses spread, at a lower level than the first 4 articles I linked. After watching the video you should have a basic understanding of how pandemics grow, and what phrases like "flatten the curve" mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg
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« Reply #838 on: April 02, 2020, 03:21:04 PM »

As someone who has a math degree, I beg to differ. Here is an article which explains the math used to model epidemics which includes differential equations, graph theory, and probability.
https://towardsdatascience.com/the-mathematics-of-epidemiology-fa0ba15e44a2

Compared to these areas of math percentages are very boring. For further reading, here is an article which shows how to use differential equations to model the spread of diseases.
https://www.public.asu.edu/~hnesse/classes/sir.html

This next article discusses how graph theory is used to model epidemics. Note: the article uses the word network rather than graph, but it's the same thing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1578276/

Probability theory can also be used in the modeling of pandemics as discussed in this article.
http://ww3.haverford.edu/mathematics/lbutler/glossary/bayes.html

These last two articles use these areas of mathematics to create some interesting simulations which model the spread of viruses, in a way that even a high school student, or in your case a high school dropout, can understand, even without a solid understanding of the areas of math just mentioned. The first article is fairly basic, but the second article has more interesting simulations that are interactive. Both are worth reading, but if you can only read one, read the second.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
https://meltingasphalt.com/interactive/outbreak/

Here is a Youtube video with further simulations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaO2rsdIs

Lastly, here is a video which shows how viruses spread, at a lower level than the first 4 articles I linked. After watching the video you should have a basic understanding of how pandemics grow, and what phrases like "flatten the curve" mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg
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« Reply #839 on: April 02, 2020, 03:28:05 PM »

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